@b7r7u7c7e yeah i know all there is to knoe about tysons career as i've studied it since the 80s, ultimately it was givens fault rooney was fired bcos rooney didn't like her and told tyson this and tyson sacked him for getting involved in his personal life
@FredHigginbottom his career started to decline when he got involved with givens and he started taking longer breaks between fights and he got bored and in trouble then the final straw was when jacobs died bcos as soon as this happened king started poisoning him against cayton and filled his head with such bullshit he couldn't just focus on fighting like when he was before..
@28rampage He would have been fine if he kept Kevin as his trainer. Remember Tyson was trained in the unique peek a boo style. It was after the spinks fight he fired kevin and his skill went down hill. No more head movement. No bobbing and weaving and be elusive on the attack. No constant pressure. And most important throwing in combinations. All he had left after he lost to dougles was knock out power in both hands and hand speed. But the Tyson of 85/88 could beat anyone.
@LedWhisky69 There's a clip of Mike Tyson talking about Don King. He talks about Dk being a leech and draining the life of every champion for the greed of money.
Don King is an evil man, His part of an occult. Everyone knows that.
@TheUnreaI In other words, you're an idiot, know-nothing troll and since I don't bother arguing with trolls, thank you for making my job a lot easier.
@TheUnreaI Awesome and have fun looking like the stupid ass troll that you are. I've exposed you as just another Tyson hater who is very big on hate and very short on facts. Another one bites the dust. Mission accomplished.
That's a great technique Tyson has where he squats down as he moves into the other guys space. Worst he can take is one on the crown with that taller opponent and with that thick skull it won't mean much.
@shellbsd23 Yeah? Except for the fact he fought total bums, got beat by someone nobody had heard of at the time, and then went on to get KO'd by 3 time heavyweight world champ lennox. Please, tyson was an exciting fighter I'll give you that, but he was never one of the greatest. I think he had the potential to be sure, but fighting bums and don king didn't exactly help.
@shellbsd23 Yeah and i'll take ruddock as a prime example. Tyson went twelve rounds with that guy, lewis knocked him out and destroyed him. Yet everyone raves about tyson?
@BourbonJRA Yeah so what, lewis got ko'd by mccall and rahman.. holyfield went 12 rounds with stewart, holmes and a couple of other dudes who were TKO'd early by Tyson. That's a wrong way to compare fighters, cause styles make fights and don't mention the post-prison tyson cause we all know he became a 1 dimensional fighter after prison.
@shellbsd23 yeah, but guess what, lewis went back and beat those who beat him. Tyson didn't. Tyson dodged fighters. He dodged lewis. Fact. And why the fuck shouldn't I mention post-prison tyson? Because he got beat? Haha yeah. And it's funny, styles do make fights, that much is true, but guess what, tyson didn't have the style to beat someone like lennox lewis, someone who dominated his era and DID prove he was one of the greatest. Tyson is nothing but an overhyped animal.
@BourbonJRA because post-prison tyson was simply not the same fighter. There is a huge difference in his fighting style after prison and you know this too. lewis. is also 1 of the greatest champs of all time, but i can see him lose to the prime version of tyson. To say tyson is an overhyped animal is just retarded. You're clearly a hater, why. Tyson was the youngest and most exciting HW champion ever. He unified the belts and was undefeated (33-0). then his private life went to hell.
@shellbsd23 Oh give me a break, I'm not a tyson hater, it just pisses me off when people go on like he was the greatest of all time, when he just wasn't.
@BourbonJRA In his prime the only person I see being better than Tyson is Ali.Tyson had the whole package in his prime.He had a deadly left hook,a beautiful uppercut,superior defense,KO machine......should I continue?
@alanmeires I agree Tyson knocked out a lot of fighters with his left hook because he is a natural left hander.I say Frazier then Tyson got the best left hooks as Heavyweights.
@jason60152 why do fighters switch fighting stances to right handed when their left handed? Why not stay southpaw since fighters seem to have an advantage already from being southpaw?
@jason60152 Tyson's right handed . I've heard him say his upper cut and his right hand were his favorite punches.But it was often the left hook which did the damage . That left hook was plain scary. He had bi-lateral iron fists as his opponents can testify !! . Many of his opponents said they had never been hit that hard . Bruno said he would rather fight Lewis once a week than Tyson once a year .
@jason60152 That's interesting . Perhaps it's a left-handed thing ? I'm not too knowlegable on boxing styles but learning from all these you tube archives .
@BourbonJRA the problem is tyson ruined his boxing reputation after prison and when people talk about the legendary tyson, it's not the post-prison version. ok tell me where you would place him on the alltime hw ranking list. top 20, 30? if so give me names of boxers who would beat him. im curious
@shellbsd23 mate I think tyson was a good boxer in his prime, great even. But when people talk about him being the greatest of all time? I just don't think he was. He's not in the class of Ali, Foreman, Lewis, Louis, even Holyfield....
@BourbonJRA you kidding right? He was the youngest Heavy Weight champion of the world! and was definitely one of the greatest of all time up there with Ali... he was just unfortunate to have a very hard life and when D' Amato died everything went down hill because he had no one to guide him. In his prime he was unstoppable, ruthless and technically perfect! if you dont believe him to be a Legend then your obviously a bit confused
@ObjectInnovation "In his prime he was unstoppable" hmmm, wonder why buster douglas knocked him the fuck out then. It's you who's confused, you're just busy riding the mike tyson hype train.
@BourbonJRA How was that in his Prime, Tyson wasn't training properly, he was even hit the deck during sparring... that was the epitome of Tyson's downfall.. he didn't have his head in the game around that time! Learn a bit about Mike Tyson before you talk shit bout him, you have to understand what happened to him and appreciate how amazing he was before his career started to deteriorate
@ObjectInnovation he got spanked by buster or are you so delusional you do not acknowledge such????As I suspected you are a vdildotysonfagfuckwadassholedickweedidiotimbecilemoron
@djk28161 umm yes, and that was the upset of the year but where in my comment did i say otherwise?... and again, if you read my comment? Tyson didnt have his head in the game, he was barely training for any of his fights, after the death of D'amato, Tyson went downhill
but this doesnt change the fact he is one of the greatest boxers ever
@thehitchrules Oh, Oh that's OK then isn't it! Next time I fuck up at work and fail the deadline I'll just tell them it's because I didn't work hard enough and then everything will be alright. Because working hard is obviously not needed in a professional career right?
@BourbonJRA Exactly my point . Tyson did not work hard enough i.e train . Doing coke and banging Japanese prostitutes . He was too cock-sure of himself and he paid the price. You have no objectivity in your argument . You're here to slate and slate you will . The fact remains Tyson was an AWESOME heavy-weight boxer 85-89. He burned out for sure but try as you are you can't disrespect his talent or achievement .
@ObjectInnovation deep in our hearts we know that if mike tyson stayed on the right path in real life, he would have been the greatest ever. if he had holyfields mentality, hed be a perfect boxer
Here's a clue: Many of his fans suffer from dirty mouth disease til they threaten over the internet to do to you what they just wish their fighter, their God, could have been good enough to do to Buster Douglass, Evander Holyfield (twice);& Lennox Lewish, to name just three; Who is this fighter, the most disappointing in history? Whose let down more fans than anybody else in boxing, in all of sports!
Name the fighter that has disapointed his fans the most; has the most disappointed number of fans in history; has failed to win every time he faced a great fighter; who has the most loyal, yet stupid, moronic, uneducated, and delirious fans in history;
whose has failed under pressure so miserably that it's traumatized his fans into states of disorientation, dementia, dishonesty that it's neccessary to delude themselves rather than face the truth?
@MrPerryrice Christ, get it off your chest why don't you ! Hope you feel better after that !!. If you don't respect Tyson as a boxer then you don't respect the sport of boxing . Hate to break it to you but you are spitting in the wind .
@jason60152 Hell no! I love Tyson. I'm a Tyson fan; I'm disappointed is all. I grew up with Ali, Sugar Ray and so know what great fighters do... Mike didn't do it. Had everything it took, and pissed me off every damn time. His ass was suppossed to excel. I root for him every time. If he fought today I'd root for him. So you do not know what you are talking about calling me a Tyson Hater.
Tucker fought a spirited fight, but Tyson was just better and fought at a furious pace. I think this is how the Douglas-Tyson fight would have gone if Douglas were fighting this version of Tyson. The Tyson in Tokyo was soft. This guy was furious, hungry and had great fundamentals.
Are you kidding? Tucker was winning until he broke his hand. The Tyson formula never failed...fighter with a good chin, left jab who could catch Tyson coming in could counter him. Tyson was the best of a mediocre era and all of the excuses for him are pathetic. Greatness is able to persevere. Tyson was just a bully...stand up to him, you can beat him. When did Tyson ever comeback to win? When did Tyson ever show heart, other than taking that beating Lewis gave him?
@cbaldwinjr Never! Tyson never showed heart in adversity; he never came back from a beating to win anything, and the greatest respect he ever earned was when he finally took that whipping from Lennox Lewis without doing something stupid or moronic to embarrass himself. He just got whipped and for once took it like a man, no excuses, no sideshow, no whinning, moaning, groaning and denial. At best: The best thug in a mediocre era, who caved in to every great fighter he ever faced. Legendary Loser.
tyson was in his prime here but even this early in his career he is geting worse because one thing that always bothered me is tyson stoped punching inside which he was great at before he got title belts now al he did when he got inside was put his hands through his oponents arms so he can complain about holding it really pisses me off instead of punching inside and doing damage like he used to he simply puts his arms throgh their arms and then complains he is being held
@4KinnelFire Well maybe Tyson should have mirrored Marciano's style in other ways; like getting the title, fighting some has-beens and retiring undefeated after defending the title six (6) measly times, and going down in history as the second undefeated champ. Ooops; even doing that requires some brains and discipline, neither of which Mike is noted for.
@Chaz770 lolol mike tyson uses peek a boo style inside fight style slash brawler, manny uses his irregular punches and his strong calves that roach trained on so he can get in and out and his lightning speed punches as well, niggah plz they r the definition of opposite.
@Chaz770 But Pacquiao got BETTER with Roach in his corner, teaching him fundamentals and giving Pacquiao the proper tools to excel with. Pacquiao is definitely better for it and Roach gets tons of credit for it. What rock are you living under? It's the reverse of what happened to Tyson, in a way. I give trainers a big chunk of credit. Look what Emanuel Steward did for Lennox Lewis. Sometimes it works with fighters, sometimes it doesn't. With Tyson, it's pretty fuckin obvious.
@Chaz770 When you get new trainers that train you differently, you're style changes. Post Rooney trainers got Mike away from the D'amato method. It's quite evident. Yes, Tyson needed to be dedicated, that's why he left Rooney. Obviously trainers don't fight the fight for you. But when you have trainers that have good insight it could mean a world of difference. They see what you don't. If you don't believe that than you haven't competed in any sport whatsoever.
@Chaz770 True. But those fighters stayed with their original team which became successful. Tyson got bored, partied too much, got away from what made him great. After Rooney Tyson fought like he didn't have a plan B. And if you believe that trainers don't matter, you need to "think" again!
@Chaz770 So you're saying if Rooney hadn't been fired and was still his trainer that Tyson would have looked the same in his fights after Spinks? HORSESHIT. Next.
@Chaz770 How did I contradict myself? Tyson fought 3 times in 1 1/2 years under his new team. Of course Tyson's at fault for not training properly. It's his fault that he got rid of Rooney. That being said, it helps to have people in your corner who can give you advice as well as a plan B. He got rid of those idiots and trained harder for his next 4 fights, looking better. But he still didn't have the head movement and combination punching that Cus and Rooney taught him. Kiss the baby.
@Chaz770 It's clear as day to see the difference a good trainer makes. Especially in the style that Tyson possessed. A style that relies on youth and reflexes. Those clowns that came after Rooney didn't have the common knowledge to bring an endswell to the Douglas fight.
Tucker was a tangler in this fight.To see Tyson at his best back then, he needed his opponents to open up and trade as this was non existent with Tucker,he showed a good chin but boringly protected it for the full 12rds.stevenmgg69 mentioned if Tyson a fighter in the 70`s against Foreman,it would`ve happened coz Foreman dodged Shavers,a hard puncher as Tyson was.Frazier that fight would`ve been a humdinger,the two were so similar,can`t say who`d win,prob Tyson with a vicious right from somewhere
mike was ok but u drop him in the 60&70 he would have been beaten buy a few fighters like ali & forman. frazier would have been a good fight same with nortan or shavers sonny listen they would have been a good match up
@berowra Tyson suffered from a temporary hair loss condition called Alopecia Areata. It's a condition that mostly geared towards men, but females can get it too. Alopecia Areata is an auto immune disorder that causes hair loss on some or multiple areas of the body, particularly the scalp. It's cause is relatively unknown, but through some medical evidence, suggest the disease might be hereditary .
@MrPerryrice And when he did meet them, he got beat, knocked out or owned every single time. Your comment is wishful, delirious thinking. Tyson no mater what era, could not be the best. He couldn't even be the best in his own era. Holyfield was, or Lewis. Even Doouglass is better than Tyson. A champ gets his title taken while he's a young fighter, and doesn't want to see that man again to get the title back? Says a lot about Tyson, none of it good
@MrPerryrice And when he did meet them, he got beat, knocked out or owned every single time. Your comment is wishful, delirious thinking. Tyson no mater what era, could not be the best. He couldn't even be the best in his own era. Holyfield was, or Lewis. Even Doouglass is better than Tyson. A champ gets his title taken while he's a young fighter, and doesn't want to see that man again to get the title back? Says a lot about Tyson, none of it good. Tyson the legendary loser to Douglass, etc.
In all fairness, the difference between Mike in this fight vs in the second half of his career was stamina. If he had stimina, he would have destroyed most of his opponenets. Tucker was a very good boxer who made Tyson work the whole fight which I think brought out the best in him.
@403766 The Lewis with the high top fade/box cut was better than the one who fought defensively and scared with Steward as his trainer. That's the equivalent of you saying that Tyson who fought Douglas was the same fighter as the one in 1988. Anyways, head-2-head, prime-4-prime, after taking some shots and wobbling a few times...Tyson knocks Lewis out in the 6th round. Bet the bank. Kiss the baby.
Too bad that's not what happened. Wishful thinking. Tyson fans are the most wishful I've every seen, and you all need to be because the reality is that Tyson has let you all down every time he had a shot at greatness. So you are reduced to what would have, or If this and that, on and on and on. Face it Tyson's a disappointment because he was never really good at anything other than slugging, and Buster Douglass and Evander Holyfield beat him at that game too. They're better.
@MrPerryrice No he's not! If Tyson was only a slugger he'd be Earnie Shavers. Nor would he have won the title twice! Tyson had tremendous skills. He's a disappointment because he lost motivation and desire to be the best. He was surrounded by yes men and dipshit trainers he wouldn't listen to. Douglas caught him on a bad night and knew this. Why do you think Douglas never gave Tyson a rematch? Post prison he fought less than 8 rounds before facing Holyfield. Prime for prime Tyson KO's Holy.
@scotthovsepian88 Listen you! Make sense; There are many pure sluggers who are NOT ERNIE SHAVERS. And in Boxing history some even became champions. Slugger meaning one dimensional, one directional, can only fight in one direction- FORWARD- like Tyson! because they can't fight backing up, like boxers can, they only get titles and hold them in weak times against weaker opponents, like Tyson did, and soon as a great or very good boxer comes along, they lose their title. Like Tyson did.
@MrPerryrice This stuff you say about Tyson only being a slugger couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it says to me that you either don't know a whole lot about boxing or you simply don't know a whole lot about Tyson. Tyson was a masterful counter-puncher and combination puncher...possibly the best the HW division has ever seen. Tremendous head movement and if he made you miss, watch out because you're about to get nailed with bombs. The power, speed, and accuracy of his punches were unmatched.
@403766 So when was Lewis' prime? Between the losses? I'll admit he was better when Steward was at the helm but there is no excuse for getting flattened by one punch from, ahem, Hasim Rahman! You're telling me Smith, Tucker and Ruddock almost beat Tyson? Who's the stupid one again? And have you ever heard of politics? Douglas burned King and took more money from Steve Wynn for fighting Holyfield instead of the Tyson rematch. King got pissed with HBO, went to Showtime, Foreman wanted the title...
@403766 You're acting like Lennie is your dad or something. Dude got starched by a single punch twice, once by a crackhead and again by a mediocre pugilist. Both times in the heart of his prime. Name any other all time great heavyweight that has suffered the same fate. Tyson doesn't go to jail Lennie doesn't go for the title.
@403766 Tucker ONLY lost to Lewis because Tyson was watching the fight from prison. Just knowing that was enough for Tucker to lose. TNT was damaged goods.
Round 3 Tucker is slowing down and Tyson is getting very frustrated, Tucker wins it, he is making Tyson miss ALL of his shots and landing most of his own, wonderful performance!
I think just because tucker did good in the first few rounds against Tyson it dosen't mean he should have won, look at Ali, he had hard fights,even got flattened against Cooper in their first fight but ref gave a slow count .
Ali had some really hard and controversial decisions, he was a decision type fighter so he should have dominated over the distance, but he didn't.
this is what world championship boxing is all about, competitive fights don't mean you ain't as good as the next guy.
@scotthovsepian88 Yeah, just look at Mike's career. Losing every big challenge in the ring. Why can't Tyson beat the great fighers he faced in his own generation, and Buster Douglass? Because they were all better than Mike.
Tyson's short for a heavyweight, his style depended on youth and reflexes to beat taller fighters with reach advantage, he wasn't made to be a long reigning champ. But if he had stuck with Rooney instead of Don King, and training instead of smoking crack-laced cigarretes, he would have beat Douglas and been champ until 1994. I would pick the Klitschkos over prime Tyson by the way.
There's footage of Tyson trying to spar a week before the Douglas fight, hes overweight and dominated by sparring partners. After Douglas, he got back into good enough shape to beat Tillman, Stewart, and Ruddock, but without Kevin RooneyD'Amato team, he lost the elements of the style that took him to the top in the 80's. Then prison, and lost his youthful reflexes from Douglas on, he wasn't the same fighter he was when he beat spinks, Tyson said he was basically washed up by 1990.
@edakey Well said. After D'Amato died, Tyson was a different fighter. He lost the discipline he had when the old man was around. It's a hell of an American story. Tyson is one of my favorite boxers of all time. He was always a pretty humble person, but was surrounded by sharks and they all took advantage of him.
@edakey I agree 100%! James "Bonecrusher" Smith stated in '09 that Mike was "focused" when they fought in '87. The death of Cus was one thing, but the death of Jim Jacobs was the end of the father-figures in Mike's life. He was now surrounded by people with their own agendas (Don King & Co.) It spelled the end of his focus & discipline, by those who kept him on a very short lease in order to further this Heavyweight objectives. He went from a 1-2-3-4 punch fighter, to 1-2 punches.
@edakey correct, but i think the Bruno performance was hugely underestimated, the way he got stronger in the fight, attacking the body very well from round 3 onwards and it was too much for Frank by round 5...If he fought Ruddock in Nov 1989 as he was due too (he pulled out because of illness) he would have thrashed him easily,,,post 1990, the defensive skills were going downhill.....
I'm not a Tyson groupie, but the fact is HE DID START DETORIATING as a fighter after the Spinks fight. He has said so himself, after he fired Kevin Rooney and Bill Cayton, he stopped training regularly abused alcohol, cocaine, cigarrettes, mostly partied with his entourage. You can see he's losing his skills by the first Bruno fight, not slipping and going to the body the same way. He beat Bruno and Carl Williams on mainly through pure athleticism and intimidation.
@edakey Being in prison for three years didn't help, either. Funny though, even after all that foolish behavior on his part (hiring less competent trainers, partying more, doing the three year stint in prison, etc.), there were still flashes of the old Tyson almost to the end. Even in his latter fights he sometimes had brilliant moments. Perhaps makes his downfall all the more tragic in a way, though.
@danning1 I have much respect for Mike, Truly a boxer he is the best you will ever see. No one knows what hellhole he was in before boxing despite that he shows attitude of an extremely dedicated aptitude towards his goal and motivating self reflects his character. In boxing you will always be remembered for the Greatness of the fight, what you do outside of the ring leaves all the glory.
Watched Tyson-Douglas again the other night. His head movement for the first few rounds is actually pretty good - he slips a lot of Douglas's early work, but ends up getting hit because Douglas is throwing far more than Mike was used to. He's not slow, and his hands are pretty fast. He doesn't throw a huge number of jabs, but he didn't throw that many against Tucker either, because there is no point trading jabs on the outside against a guy with a 12" reach advantage.
NOT saying Tyson was at his best, because he clearly was not, but I don't see the Tyson that fought Tucker or Biggs beating Douglas the way Douglas fought THAT night.
@edakey : You are wise indeed. So few people realize that, with the right corner, Tyson was a complete fighter mentally and physically. He knew that he'd give up height, reach, and movement to most fighters, yet he'd still dominate the boxing. Not just with power and intimidation, but also with tactics, and relentless effort.
Guys didn't frustrate him with a particular style. They would hold him, run away, and generally offer up no counter to his plan.
How I loved watching Tyson fight when I was a kid. His fights were so Electrifying and exciting, Just waiting for that punch followed by various combos to end the fight. Bob and weave. Turn on the left and watch the bodys fall.
Kind of sad watching as his Discipline began to waver and footwork was so sloppy. A mad dog, head hunter.
Will always remember Iron. Mike. Tyson.
What's with all this arguing about who was hype and who was not? You either like him or you don't.
Not everybody was swept away by the huge media hype surrounding Tyson. He was hyped up into an invicible giant just like James J. Jeffries and Sonny Liston were before, and why? because he scored spectacular knockouts over mediocre opponents. It was all exposed as exactly that - hype when they upped the standard of competition.
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VanessaMouse84 2 days ago
good fhight
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can anybody tell me the specific name of the gloves mike tyson used for this fight please?
AminalPlanet 4 days ago
@b7r7u7c7e yeah i know all there is to knoe about tysons career as i've studied it since the 80s, ultimately it was givens fault rooney was fired bcos rooney didn't like her and told tyson this and tyson sacked him for getting involved in his personal life
28rampage 1 week ago
TONY FUCKING HUGGER
Idontgiveashytt 2 weeks ago
Don't knock the Jerry CURL!!!!!
2patero 1 month ago
@2patero Tyson made his Jerry Curl a afro after the fight was finished.Tyson knocked all the activator out his head.
jason60152 1 month ago
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middleastboxer21 2 months ago
@middleastboxer21 :D You mad kid?
TheUnreaI 2 months ago
@LedWhisky69 ill think youll find it was when d'amato died that his career started to decline.... Bazinga!
FredHigginbottom 2 months ago
@FredHigginbottom hahaha!!except he WON THE WORLD TITLE AFTER his death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hrzan 2 months ago
@FredHigginbottom his career started to decline when he got involved with givens and he started taking longer breaks between fights and he got bored and in trouble then the final straw was when jacobs died bcos as soon as this happened king started poisoning him against cayton and filled his head with such bullshit he couldn't just focus on fighting like when he was before..
28rampage 3 weeks ago
@28rampage He would have been fine if he kept Kevin as his trainer. Remember Tyson was trained in the unique peek a boo style. It was after the spinks fight he fired kevin and his skill went down hill. No more head movement. No bobbing and weaving and be elusive on the attack. No constant pressure. And most important throwing in combinations. All he had left after he lost to dougles was knock out power in both hands and hand speed. But the Tyson of 85/88 could beat anyone.
b7r7u7c7e 1 week ago
i know that ref is tired of going in there and untagling them
shortstackJMD96 2 months ago
@LedWhisky69 There's a clip of Mike Tyson talking about Don King. He talks about Dk being a leech and draining the life of every champion for the greed of money.
Don King is an evil man, His part of an occult. Everyone knows that.
MrDoable 2 months ago
@TheUnreaI In other words, you're an idiot, know-nothing troll and since I don't bother arguing with trolls, thank you for making my job a lot easier.
LedWhisky69 2 months ago
@LedWhisky69 Yawn :O "my job" Yes nice life you have there. Sucking tyson's dick on youtube comments all day.
TheUnreaI 2 months ago
@TheUnreaI Awesome and have fun looking like the stupid ass troll that you are. I've exposed you as just another Tyson hater who is very big on hate and very short on facts. Another one bites the dust. Mission accomplished.
LedWhisky69 2 months ago
@403766 It's a well known fact Tyson had an addiction to cocaine . He was also a smoker.
thehitchrules 2 months ago
that's who kanye got that mullet idea from lol
lwilliams24 2 months ago
sad there wasn't a knock out in this one
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foenterprises1 3 months ago
caralho meu, era massa as lutas do tyson, até hoje sou ligadão nos videos das lutas dele, me inspira d+ ...
tapanakara0613 3 months ago
Mills Lane sounds like Joe Pesci.
wbustudent 3 months ago
That's a great technique Tyson has where he squats down as he moves into the other guys space. Worst he can take is one on the crown with that taller opponent and with that thick skull it won't mean much.
robtfdfbvv 5 months ago
Tyson was good but he wasn't the greatest.
BourbonJRA 5 months ago
@BourbonJRA tyson was not good, he was great / 1 of the greatest HW's
shellbsd23 4 months ago
@shellbsd23 Yeah? Except for the fact he fought total bums, got beat by someone nobody had heard of at the time, and then went on to get KO'd by 3 time heavyweight world champ lennox. Please, tyson was an exciting fighter I'll give you that, but he was never one of the greatest. I think he had the potential to be sure, but fighting bums and don king didn't exactly help.
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA they were not bums, don't know why everybody keeps saying this. larry holmes, tucker, ruddock were exceptional boxers
shellbsd23 4 months ago
@shellbsd23 Yeah and i'll take ruddock as a prime example. Tyson went twelve rounds with that guy, lewis knocked him out and destroyed him. Yet everyone raves about tyson?
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA Yeah so what, lewis got ko'd by mccall and rahman.. holyfield went 12 rounds with stewart, holmes and a couple of other dudes who were TKO'd early by Tyson. That's a wrong way to compare fighters, cause styles make fights and don't mention the post-prison tyson cause we all know he became a 1 dimensional fighter after prison.
shellbsd23 4 months ago
@shellbsd23 yeah, but guess what, lewis went back and beat those who beat him. Tyson didn't. Tyson dodged fighters. He dodged lewis. Fact. And why the fuck shouldn't I mention post-prison tyson? Because he got beat? Haha yeah. And it's funny, styles do make fights, that much is true, but guess what, tyson didn't have the style to beat someone like lennox lewis, someone who dominated his era and DID prove he was one of the greatest. Tyson is nothing but an overhyped animal.
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA because post-prison tyson was simply not the same fighter. There is a huge difference in his fighting style after prison and you know this too. lewis. is also 1 of the greatest champs of all time, but i can see him lose to the prime version of tyson. To say tyson is an overhyped animal is just retarded. You're clearly a hater, why. Tyson was the youngest and most exciting HW champion ever. He unified the belts and was undefeated (33-0). then his private life went to hell.
shellbsd23 4 months ago
@shellbsd23 Oh give me a break, I'm not a tyson hater, it just pisses me off when people go on like he was the greatest of all time, when he just wasn't.
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA In his prime the only person I see being better than Tyson is Ali.Tyson had the whole package in his prime.He had a deadly left hook,a beautiful uppercut,superior defense,KO machine......should I continue?
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 continue for as long as you want mate I'd still disagree with you.
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA So you saying Tyson don't got the best uppercut ever as a Heavyweight?
jason60152 4 months ago
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@jason60152 can you not read?
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA yeah I can read can you read?
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 Yes. Yes I can.
BourbonJRA 2 months ago
@jason60152 in my mind hes got one of the best left hooks of all time as well
alanmeires 4 months ago
@alanmeires I agree Tyson knocked out a lot of fighters with his left hook because he is a natural left hander.I say Frazier then Tyson got the best left hooks as Heavyweights.
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 even tommy morrison and David tua great left hookers as well
alanmeires 4 months ago
@alanmeires Tyson whooped Tommy Morrison's ass
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 wasnt that fight called off when they found out Tommy had HIV but yes Tyson would have whooped hes arss
alanmeires 4 months ago
@alanmeires your right I thought Tyson fought Morrison but it was Lennox Lewis.Morrison did have a nice left hook.
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 why do fighters switch fighting stances to right handed when their left handed? Why not stay southpaw since fighters seem to have an advantage already from being southpaw?
EliazaRo15 2 months ago
@EliazaRo15 I agree.Oscar De La Hoya was a natural left hander too but fought right handed.That is why Oscar De La Hoya had a great left hook.
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 Tyson's right handed . I've heard him say his upper cut and his right hand were his favorite punches.But it was often the left hook which did the damage . That left hook was plain scary. He had bi-lateral iron fists as his opponents can testify !! . Many of his opponents said they had never been hit that hard . Bruno said he would rather fight Lewis once a week than Tyson once a year .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules Tyson is left handed dumbass.
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 He is RIGHT handed .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules No he isn't do your research.
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 Yes he is . Type in Tyson signing autographs. RIGHT handed .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules You are right.I'm the dumbass:)
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 No worries . There was a time when I thought he was left handed as well. Right handed= left handed lead when boxing .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules Oscar De La Hoya is left-handed and he lead's with his left.
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 That's interesting . Perhaps it's a left-handed thing ? I'm not too knowlegable on boxing styles but learning from all these you tube archives .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@BourbonJRA the problem is tyson ruined his boxing reputation after prison and when people talk about the legendary tyson, it's not the post-prison version. ok tell me where you would place him on the alltime hw ranking list. top 20, 30? if so give me names of boxers who would beat him. im curious
shellbsd23 4 months ago
@shellbsd23 mate I think tyson was a good boxer in his prime, great even. But when people talk about him being the greatest of all time? I just don't think he was. He's not in the class of Ali, Foreman, Lewis, Louis, even Holyfield....
BourbonJRA 4 months ago
@BourbonJRA you kidding right? He was the youngest Heavy Weight champion of the world! and was definitely one of the greatest of all time up there with Ali... he was just unfortunate to have a very hard life and when D' Amato died everything went down hill because he had no one to guide him. In his prime he was unstoppable, ruthless and technically perfect! if you dont believe him to be a Legend then your obviously a bit confused
ObjectInnovation 3 months ago
@ObjectInnovation "In his prime he was unstoppable" hmmm, wonder why buster douglas knocked him the fuck out then. It's you who's confused, you're just busy riding the mike tyson hype train.
BourbonJRA 3 months ago
@BourbonJRA How was that in his Prime, Tyson wasn't training properly, he was even hit the deck during sparring... that was the epitome of Tyson's downfall.. he didn't have his head in the game around that time! Learn a bit about Mike Tyson before you talk shit bout him, you have to understand what happened to him and appreciate how amazing he was before his career started to deteriorate
ObjectInnovation 3 months ago
@ObjectInnovation exactly, the day he was released from prison, all those boxer who were talking trash before got quiet as a church mouse...
scorpionJB 2 months ago
@ObjectInnovation he got spanked by buster or are you so delusional you do not acknowledge such????As I suspected you are a vdildotysonfagfuckwadassholedickweedidiotimbecilemoron
djk28161 2 months ago
@djk28161 umm yes, and that was the upset of the year but where in my comment did i say otherwise?... and again, if you read my comment? Tyson didnt have his head in the game, he was barely training for any of his fights, after the death of D'amato, Tyson went downhill
but this doesnt change the fact he is one of the greatest boxers ever
ObjectInnovation 2 months ago
@BourbonJRA Douglas knocked him out because Tyson did not train properly, he thought it would be a cake-walk. Everyone knows this bar you evidently .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules Oh, Oh that's OK then isn't it! Next time I fuck up at work and fail the deadline I'll just tell them it's because I didn't work hard enough and then everything will be alright. Because working hard is obviously not needed in a professional career right?
BourbonJRA 2 months ago
@BourbonJRA Exactly my point . Tyson did not work hard enough i.e train . Doing coke and banging Japanese prostitutes . He was too cock-sure of himself and he paid the price. You have no objectivity in your argument . You're here to slate and slate you will . The fact remains Tyson was an AWESOME heavy-weight boxer 85-89. He burned out for sure but try as you are you can't disrespect his talent or achievement .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@shellbsd23 well put! that BourbonJRA dude is fried as
ObjectInnovation 3 months ago
@ObjectInnovation deep in our hearts we know that if mike tyson stayed on the right path in real life, he would have been the greatest ever. if he had holyfields mentality, hed be a perfect boxer
shellbsd23 3 months ago
GIVE IT TO HIM, WILLIE!!!!!!!!!!
9162vb48 6 months ago
0:48 Does the white ref say " Get off the net my nigga"
SwagCast13 6 months ago
@403766 Right, Right!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Tucker holds constantly.
TheBestBoxingGame 6 months ago
Here's a clue: Many of his fans suffer from dirty mouth disease til they threaten over the internet to do to you what they just wish their fighter, their God, could have been good enough to do to Buster Douglass, Evander Holyfield (twice);& Lennox Lewish, to name just three; Who is this fighter, the most disappointing in history? Whose let down more fans than anybody else in boxing, in all of sports!
Who still maintains the stupidest fanbase?
Who is it Tyson fans? It's Mike Tyson!
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
Hey, Tyson Fans.
Name the fighter that has disapointed his fans the most; has the most disappointed number of fans in history; has failed to win every time he faced a great fighter; who has the most loyal, yet stupid, moronic, uneducated, and delirious fans in history;
whose has failed under pressure so miserably that it's traumatized his fans into states of disorientation, dementia, dishonesty that it's neccessary to delude themselves rather than face the truth?
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
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jason60152 4 months ago
@MrPerryrice Christ, get it off your chest why don't you ! Hope you feel better after that !!. If you don't respect Tyson as a boxer then you don't respect the sport of boxing . Hate to break it to you but you are spitting in the wind .
thehitchrules 2 months ago
@thehitchrules He is just a Tyson hater don't mind him.
jason60152 2 months ago
@jason60152 Hell no! I love Tyson. I'm a Tyson fan; I'm disappointed is all. I grew up with Ali, Sugar Ray and so know what great fighters do... Mike didn't do it. Had everything it took, and pissed me off every damn time. His ass was suppossed to excel. I root for him every time. If he fought today I'd root for him. So you do not know what you are talking about calling me a Tyson Hater.
MrPerryrice 1 month ago
Tucker fought a spirited fight, but Tyson was just better and fought at a furious pace. I think this is how the Douglas-Tyson fight would have gone if Douglas were fighting this version of Tyson. The Tyson in Tokyo was soft. This guy was furious, hungry and had great fundamentals.
mmcneil777 6 months ago
@mmcneil777
Are you kidding? Tucker was winning until he broke his hand. The Tyson formula never failed...fighter with a good chin, left jab who could catch Tyson coming in could counter him. Tyson was the best of a mediocre era and all of the excuses for him are pathetic. Greatness is able to persevere. Tyson was just a bully...stand up to him, you can beat him. When did Tyson ever comeback to win? When did Tyson ever show heart, other than taking that beating Lewis gave him?
cbaldwinjr 6 months ago
@cbaldwinjr Never! Tyson never showed heart in adversity; he never came back from a beating to win anything, and the greatest respect he ever earned was when he finally took that whipping from Lennox Lewis without doing something stupid or moronic to embarrass himself. He just got whipped and for once took it like a man, no excuses, no sideshow, no whinning, moaning, groaning and denial. At best: The best thug in a mediocre era, who caved in to every great fighter he ever faced. Legendary Loser.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
tyson was in his prime here but even this early in his career he is geting worse because one thing that always bothered me is tyson stoped punching inside which he was great at before he got title belts now al he did when he got inside was put his hands through his oponents arms so he can complain about holding it really pisses me off instead of punching inside and doing damage like he used to he simply puts his arms throgh their arms and then complains he is being held
bill23138 7 months ago
I'm disappointed in how tyson my boy fought! I know he could've knocked out tucker
llittleRay 7 months ago
Ali would surley have outpointed Tyson, if Tucker can take Mike the distance Ali would have frustrated & hurt Tyson
auspunk79 7 months ago
I see a bit of rocky marciano in tyson, the way he lowers himself to throw some big shots mirrors marciano's style
4KinnelFire 9 months ago
@4KinnelFire Well maybe Tyson should have mirrored Marciano's style in other ways; like getting the title, fighting some has-beens and retiring undefeated after defending the title six (6) measly times, and going down in history as the second undefeated champ. Ooops; even doing that requires some brains and discipline, neither of which Mike is noted for.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@Chaz770 lolol mike tyson uses peek a boo style inside fight style slash brawler, manny uses his irregular punches and his strong calves that roach trained on so he can get in and out and his lightning speed punches as well, niggah plz they r the definition of opposite.
balisong209 9 months ago
@Chaz770 WTF you taking about pacquiao on here for, fucking dumass.
Nathan2345678 10 months ago 21
@Nathan2345678 hahaha
chexy73 6 months ago
@Chaz770 The inside word is Tyson did steroids post prison. Was he better post prison? Good try. Fuck off fag boy.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@scotthovsepian88 yep he sure did...
Durs5 8 months ago
I thought it was Tony Fucker.
naveah123212 10 months ago
@Chaz770 So if both Pacquiao and Tyson are the same type of fighter, how come one got better with age and one got worse? TRAINERS dipshit.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 But Pacquiao got BETTER with Roach in his corner, teaching him fundamentals and giving Pacquiao the proper tools to excel with. Pacquiao is definitely better for it and Roach gets tons of credit for it. What rock are you living under? It's the reverse of what happened to Tyson, in a way. I give trainers a big chunk of credit. Look what Emanuel Steward did for Lennox Lewis. Sometimes it works with fighters, sometimes it doesn't. With Tyson, it's pretty fuckin obvious.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 When you get new trainers that train you differently, you're style changes. Post Rooney trainers got Mike away from the D'amato method. It's quite evident. Yes, Tyson needed to be dedicated, that's why he left Rooney. Obviously trainers don't fight the fight for you. But when you have trainers that have good insight it could mean a world of difference. They see what you don't. If you don't believe that than you haven't competed in any sport whatsoever.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 True. But those fighters stayed with their original team which became successful. Tyson got bored, partied too much, got away from what made him great. After Rooney Tyson fought like he didn't have a plan B. And if you believe that trainers don't matter, you need to "think" again!
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 So you're saying if Rooney hadn't been fired and was still his trainer that Tyson would have looked the same in his fights after Spinks? HORSESHIT. Next.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 How did I contradict myself? Tyson fought 3 times in 1 1/2 years under his new team. Of course Tyson's at fault for not training properly. It's his fault that he got rid of Rooney. That being said, it helps to have people in your corner who can give you advice as well as a plan B. He got rid of those idiots and trained harder for his next 4 fights, looking better. But he still didn't have the head movement and combination punching that Cus and Rooney taught him. Kiss the baby.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
@Chaz770 It's clear as day to see the difference a good trainer makes. Especially in the style that Tyson possessed. A style that relies on youth and reflexes. Those clowns that came after Rooney didn't have the common knowledge to bring an endswell to the Douglas fight.
scotthovsepian88 10 months ago
Mills is brave, keeps coming in on Tyson's left; an old white guy could get killed that way.
skurland78748 10 months ago
Not sure if Frazier and Norton beat Tyson. Mike at his peak has the speed advantage which is huge.
bscottdp 10 months ago
it almost feels like im there
M055B0RG 10 months ago
I was meant to say Foreman would of ducked Mike Tyson as he ducked Earnie Shavers.
peaceman1234567 11 months ago
Tucker was a tangler in this fight.To see Tyson at his best back then, he needed his opponents to open up and trade as this was non existent with Tucker,he showed a good chin but boringly protected it for the full 12rds.stevenmgg69 mentioned if Tyson a fighter in the 70`s against Foreman,it would`ve happened coz Foreman dodged Shavers,a hard puncher as Tyson was.Frazier that fight would`ve been a humdinger,the two were so similar,can`t say who`d win,prob Tyson with a vicious right from somewhere
peaceman1234567 11 months ago
mike was ok but u drop him in the 60&70 he would have been beaten buy a few fighters like ali & forman. frazier would have been a good fight same with nortan or shavers sonny listen they would have been a good match up
stevenmcg69 11 months ago
Tucker would have a warning for that now,it bores the hell out of people fighting like that.
peaceman1234567 1 year ago
WHATS THE GO WITH THE BALD PATCH?? ANYBODY KNOW?
berowra 1 year ago
@berowra Tyson suffered from a temporary hair loss condition called Alopecia Areata. It's a condition that mostly geared towards men, but females can get it too. Alopecia Areata is an auto immune disorder that causes hair loss on some or multiple areas of the body, particularly the scalp. It's cause is relatively unknown, but through some medical evidence, suggest the disease might be hereditary .
clayg80 1 year ago
Why does Tyson have that chunk of hair missing on the top of his head?
jjp009 1 year ago
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@jjp009 because of the stress after wining the title
A376ers 1 year ago
Tyson of 1987 beats any fighter in history, Ali, Holmes, Marciano, Lewis, no matter who.
BringerOfTheTruth 1 year ago
@BringerOfTheTruth
How can you tell? He had not even faced a great heavyweight yet.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice And when he did meet them, he got beat, knocked out or owned every single time. Your comment is wishful, delirious thinking. Tyson no mater what era, could not be the best. He couldn't even be the best in his own era. Holyfield was, or Lewis. Even Doouglass is better than Tyson. A champ gets his title taken while he's a young fighter, and doesn't want to see that man again to get the title back? Says a lot about Tyson, none of it good
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice And when he did meet them, he got beat, knocked out or owned every single time. Your comment is wishful, delirious thinking. Tyson no mater what era, could not be the best. He couldn't even be the best in his own era. Holyfield was, or Lewis. Even Doouglass is better than Tyson. A champ gets his title taken while he's a young fighter, and doesn't want to see that man again to get the title back? Says a lot about Tyson, none of it good. Tyson the legendary loser to Douglass, etc.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
wtf i dont no much about boxing because i only watch ufc but i thought in boxing clinches were allowed..
GspFightVids 1 year ago
@GspFightVids clinches are allowed. But its a boxing match...that tucker tried to turn into a clinching match to survive. Which is incredibly boring.
250honda 1 year ago
@GspFightVids Losers like Tyson complain rather than find a way to counter the clinches.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
In all fairness, the difference between Mike in this fight vs in the second half of his career was stamina. If he had stimina, he would have destroyed most of his opponenets. Tucker was a very good boxer who made Tyson work the whole fight which I think brought out the best in him.
mp4vids 1 year ago
@403766 The Lewis with the high top fade/box cut was better than the one who fought defensively and scared with Steward as his trainer. That's the equivalent of you saying that Tyson who fought Douglas was the same fighter as the one in 1988. Anyways, head-2-head, prime-4-prime, after taking some shots and wobbling a few times...Tyson knocks Lewis out in the 6th round. Bet the bank. Kiss the baby.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@scotthovsepian88
Too bad that's not what happened. Wishful thinking. Tyson fans are the most wishful I've every seen, and you all need to be because the reality is that Tyson has let you all down every time he had a shot at greatness. So you are reduced to what would have, or If this and that, on and on and on. Face it Tyson's a disappointment because he was never really good at anything other than slugging, and Buster Douglass and Evander Holyfield beat him at that game too. They're better.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice No he's not! If Tyson was only a slugger he'd be Earnie Shavers. Nor would he have won the title twice! Tyson had tremendous skills. He's a disappointment because he lost motivation and desire to be the best. He was surrounded by yes men and dipshit trainers he wouldn't listen to. Douglas caught him on a bad night and knew this. Why do you think Douglas never gave Tyson a rematch? Post prison he fought less than 8 rounds before facing Holyfield. Prime for prime Tyson KO's Holy.
scotthovsepian88 6 months ago
@scotthovsepian88 Listen you! Make sense; There are many pure sluggers who are NOT ERNIE SHAVERS. And in Boxing history some even became champions. Slugger meaning one dimensional, one directional, can only fight in one direction- FORWARD- like Tyson! because they can't fight backing up, like boxers can, they only get titles and hold them in weak times against weaker opponents, like Tyson did, and soon as a great or very good boxer comes along, they lose their title. Like Tyson did.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@MrPerryrice This stuff you say about Tyson only being a slugger couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it says to me that you either don't know a whole lot about boxing or you simply don't know a whole lot about Tyson. Tyson was a masterful counter-puncher and combination puncher...possibly the best the HW division has ever seen. Tremendous head movement and if he made you miss, watch out because you're about to get nailed with bombs. The power, speed, and accuracy of his punches were unmatched.
LedWhisky69 6 months ago
@403766 So when was Lewis' prime? Between the losses? I'll admit he was better when Steward was at the helm but there is no excuse for getting flattened by one punch from, ahem, Hasim Rahman! You're telling me Smith, Tucker and Ruddock almost beat Tyson? Who's the stupid one again? And have you ever heard of politics? Douglas burned King and took more money from Steve Wynn for fighting Holyfield instead of the Tyson rematch. King got pissed with HBO, went to Showtime, Foreman wanted the title...
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@403766 You're acting like Lennie is your dad or something. Dude got starched by a single punch twice, once by a crackhead and again by a mediocre pugilist. Both times in the heart of his prime. Name any other all time great heavyweight that has suffered the same fate. Tyson doesn't go to jail Lennie doesn't go for the title.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@403766 Tucker ONLY lost to Lewis because Tyson was watching the fight from prison. Just knowing that was enough for Tucker to lose. TNT was damaged goods.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
i spent 60 dollars on a mike tyson dvd collection and now this...mike tyson fights in HD on youtube. i kind of feel pranked.
00SENNENGOROSHI00 1 year ago
Mills, best referee ever.
Sacriphyx 1 year ago
oh that why after he fired rooney his arm muscle are gone
sharkxxxs 1 year ago
Round 3 Tucker is slowing down and Tyson is getting very frustrated, Tucker wins it, he is making Tyson miss ALL of his shots and landing most of his own, wonderful performance!
XionComrade 1 year ago
@XionComrade watch the whole fight, then you'll see who's getting frustrated...
baselkicker 1 year ago
Referre ?? LOL!
XzLiLBeAsTzX 1 year ago
Tony Tucker fought , I give him credit
chestveeg 1 year ago
1:38, THATS A HEAVY LEFT JAB !
Trey029 1 year ago
I think just because tucker did good in the first few rounds against Tyson it dosen't mean he should have won, look at Ali, he had hard fights,even got flattened against Cooper in their first fight but ref gave a slow count .
Ali had some really hard and controversial decisions, he was a decision type fighter so he should have dominated over the distance, but he didn't.
this is what world championship boxing is all about, competitive fights don't mean you ain't as good as the next guy.
keatjosh 1 year ago
Tucker won these first 3 rounds with ease. Had he not broken his hand he would have knocked Mike out...
KamRooks 1 year ago
@KamRooks with ease my ass
HVAC1337NJ 1 year ago
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@KamRooks What a fool you are.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@scotthovsepian88 Tyson got hurt...when? What did the scorecards read? And who won again?
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@KamRooks Tucker hit Tyson with quite a few shots, but Tyson brushed them off with ease. Class will soon show.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
@scotthovsepian88 So did Tucker.....
primeboxers 1 year ago
@scotthovsepian88 Yeah, just look at Mike's career. Losing every big challenge in the ring. Why can't Tyson beat the great fighers he faced in his own generation, and Buster Douglass? Because they were all better than Mike.
MrPerryrice 6 months ago
@KamRooks Sucks what coke can do to a man. And if he didn't break his hand on Tyson's head Tucker would've beaten Lennox too then, huh.
scotthovsepian88 1 year ago
Tyson's short for a heavyweight, his style depended on youth and reflexes to beat taller fighters with reach advantage, he wasn't made to be a long reigning champ. But if he had stuck with Rooney instead of Don King, and training instead of smoking crack-laced cigarretes, he would have beat Douglas and been champ until 1994. I would pick the Klitschkos over prime Tyson by the way.
edakey 2 years ago
generally good points except for the Klitschkos observation. Lennox Lewis, yes. But the Klitschkos, unlikely.
CyrusTab 2 years ago
A prime Mike Tyson would've made both Klitschko brothers quit before 12, as they did the first time they ran into adversity in the ring.
comedicstuff 2 years ago
There's footage of Tyson trying to spar a week before the Douglas fight, hes overweight and dominated by sparring partners. After Douglas, he got back into good enough shape to beat Tillman, Stewart, and Ruddock, but without Kevin RooneyD'Amato team, he lost the elements of the style that took him to the top in the 80's. Then prison, and lost his youthful reflexes from Douglas on, he wasn't the same fighter he was when he beat spinks, Tyson said he was basically washed up by 1990.
edakey 2 years ago 16
@edakey Well said. After D'Amato died, Tyson was a different fighter. He lost the discipline he had when the old man was around. It's a hell of an American story. Tyson is one of my favorite boxers of all time. He was always a pretty humble person, but was surrounded by sharks and they all took advantage of him.
serekithegreat 10 months ago
@edakey I agree 100%! James "Bonecrusher" Smith stated in '09 that Mike was "focused" when they fought in '87. The death of Cus was one thing, but the death of Jim Jacobs was the end of the father-figures in Mike's life. He was now surrounded by people with their own agendas (Don King & Co.) It spelled the end of his focus & discipline, by those who kept him on a very short lease in order to further this Heavyweight objectives. He went from a 1-2-3-4 punch fighter, to 1-2 punches.
mtech20 9 months ago
@edakey .........Well said, I tell people this all the time.
chrissline77 7 months ago
@edakey correct, but i think the Bruno performance was hugely underestimated, the way he got stronger in the fight, attacking the body very well from round 3 onwards and it was too much for Frank by round 5...If he fought Ruddock in Nov 1989 as he was due too (he pulled out because of illness) he would have thrashed him easily,,,post 1990, the defensive skills were going downhill.....
Indul1 7 months ago
I'm not a Tyson groupie, but the fact is HE DID START DETORIATING as a fighter after the Spinks fight. He has said so himself, after he fired Kevin Rooney and Bill Cayton, he stopped training regularly abused alcohol, cocaine, cigarrettes, mostly partied with his entourage. You can see he's losing his skills by the first Bruno fight, not slipping and going to the body the same way. He beat Bruno and Carl Williams on mainly through pure athleticism and intimidation.
edakey 2 years ago 30
@edakey Well said
Harley717 1 year ago
@edakey Im glad you wrote that, I thought I was the only one to understand what happened to him, having read comments thus far.
Shame I never read your post eleven months ago :)
AnglOsAxOn2 1 year ago
thos boxing match lot of clints if tyson know how to take down his oppponent i think he can beat anyone out of thier ass in mma or ufc match
vincent7125 9 months ago
@edakey well i think he would always beat bruno
roggy12345 9 months ago
@edakey Being in prison for three years didn't help, either. Funny though, even after all that foolish behavior on his part (hiring less competent trainers, partying more, doing the three year stint in prison, etc.), there were still flashes of the old Tyson almost to the end. Even in his latter fights he sometimes had brilliant moments. Perhaps makes his downfall all the more tragic in a way, though.
danning1 8 months ago 12
@danning1 I have much respect for Mike, Truly a boxer he is the best you will ever see. No one knows what hellhole he was in before boxing despite that he shows attitude of an extremely dedicated aptitude towards his goal and motivating self reflects his character. In boxing you will always be remembered for the Greatness of the fight, what you do outside of the ring leaves all the glory.
rey1435 4 months ago
Watched Tyson-Douglas again the other night. His head movement for the first few rounds is actually pretty good - he slips a lot of Douglas's early work, but ends up getting hit because Douglas is throwing far more than Mike was used to. He's not slow, and his hands are pretty fast. He doesn't throw a huge number of jabs, but he didn't throw that many against Tucker either, because there is no point trading jabs on the outside against a guy with a 12" reach advantage.
ProfHarryGreb 7 months ago
NOT saying Tyson was at his best, because he clearly was not, but I don't see the Tyson that fought Tucker or Biggs beating Douglas the way Douglas fought THAT night.
ProfHarryGreb 7 months ago
@edakey : You are wise indeed. So few people realize that, with the right corner, Tyson was a complete fighter mentally and physically. He knew that he'd give up height, reach, and movement to most fighters, yet he'd still dominate the boxing. Not just with power and intimidation, but also with tactics, and relentless effort.
Guys didn't frustrate him with a particular style. They would hold him, run away, and generally offer up no counter to his plan.
whutbrush 7 months ago
How I loved watching Tyson fight when I was a kid. His fights were so Electrifying and exciting, Just waiting for that punch followed by various combos to end the fight. Bob and weave. Turn on the left and watch the bodys fall.
Kind of sad watching as his Discipline began to waver and footwork was so sloppy. A mad dog, head hunter.
Will always remember Iron. Mike. Tyson.
What's with all this arguing about who was hype and who was not? You either like him or you don't.
SkurraiX 2 years ago
EmoKiddIsEmo
Ignorance? explain thyself please...
Not everybody was swept away by the huge media hype surrounding Tyson. He was hyped up into an invicible giant just like James J. Jeffries and Sonny Liston were before, and why? because he scored spectacular knockouts over mediocre opponents. It was all exposed as exactly that - hype when they upped the standard of competition.
Panthera0nca 2 years ago
EmoKiddIsEmo
Tell me which GREAT HEAVYWEIGHTS in their primes that he beat?
....the answer is NONE.
Panthera0nca 2 years ago
you make more sense than anyone else on this page..you dont buy into the hype just like i dont so kudos!
dirtyjew1974 2 years ago
why cant stupid muthafuckas like panthera0nca realize that tyson is tha best eva,,, (facts is facts) oh and panthera0nca your a bitch
shiestyzee90 2 years ago