Michael WAS on the track. Why's that so hard to believe? Is it 'cause it's a JAY-Z song? What's the problem? Michael worked with a WHOLE SPECTRUM of artists. Get over it. :-)
@dat3rdsideboy386 don't try to disrespect Michael Jackson, that's ridiculously unnecessary. And it would be cool if you actually had your own, justified, valid reason for trying to come at him, but all you did was suck up the media's bullshit and hop on his sack like the rest of the world before they sent in their R.I.P's
`The voice on this is NOT MJ, however there is a version out there with MJ's verse. This is the sample from the song. The Michael Jackson version sounds like this however. It's just AWESOME to hear MJ on this with Jay-Z.
Many ppl dont even know MJ, Eddie Levert did background vocals for Stevie Wonder's "All I Do"...lol ANYWAY They can really adjust vocals to sound so weird....LOL
i could totally see mike not wanting his name on alot of stuff ya know..hes very secretive. Whos knows but mike did alot of songs and colabos with alot but after he passed its now they mention his name like "oh yeah he worked on this song with me back in 90"..im like dude you could have said something then ya know when you got that award like "thanks mike!"..but i guess it comes with the territory!..it would be a never ending list if everyone song he made and artist he colabo came out!!!
yeah he did get credit for simpson..i was making a point that he made alot of songs that no one at the time knew about but for "do the bart man" he didnt get credit for that..
and for the simpson episode he was not allowed to sing it to to his contract with sony. therefore they had i forget the name a guy impersonating mj for this episodes song "lisa its your birthday".."do the bart man" he got no credit....many reason he gets no credit is because of sony contract
I dunno ..MJ has ridiculous range, His natural voice wasnt high all the time..Mike did alot of background alot of people. Who knows now that Mike is gone suckas are coming outta the azz
several songs ive listened to and thought it was mj saw no credit and turned out it was him..but sonys a douche thats another reason for the sony wars back in 2001..."they think my head is only in my music which it is but they did not think i was ahead of them..that i did not know what was going on."-mj
*holds up sign that fan gave*...sign says "SONY SUCKS!"
for the sack of this song the chorus and tones had to be different melody
its all because of sonys ass that mike did songs and because of the frigin contracts he get no credit
ie simpsons episodes ":Lisa its your birthday"...he wrote that song and sanged the orginal.."do the bart man"..wrote that songs got no frigin credit for it but others did!..
mj did backup vocals for bradys full moon album "it's not worth it"..check the song out..there are plenty of songs mj did back up for and half of em he get little to no credit...
MJ could alter his voice in many ways and I suspect his voice has also been digitally altered a little on this track. He wouldn't be given credit probably due to contract and legal restrictions.
if u listen to the backups over the sample they used like where he harmonizes it does sound like him from 3:55 got it clearer ..but why hide it all this time? i wonder what else he did with no credits.
wow, see what mentioning mj's name can do for a song! i never would have bothered to listen to this song if jay z hadn't revealed that mj is on the track. sounds good although he's voice sounds different.
I think Mj chose to not be credited coz jay z is talking about f***ing!!!
im pretty sure its the "Persuaders" sample...I mean with Kanye West's ego he would of blabbed about that fact that they work with MJ on this track looong time ago
i don't think it sounds anything like MJ...having a very hard time believing that...kinda shady...why wound't u credit dude on the song in the first place
? Get the fuck outta here. Kanye did some dope ass beats on this album. He did Takeover, Izzo, Never Change, AND Heart of the City, the best songs on the album, imo
Yeah I respect your opinion but the fact is that just blaze killed the blueprint especially the track "U Don't Know" jay's flow was at 100% on that beat you can't tell me that wasn't the shit
even though i like just blaze better than kanye west, i still think kanye's beat (this one) is better than the original...but u dont know was the best song on the blueprint
it made the album both were on it,this comes after momma love me then like 45 seconds of blank air then a song lyrical exercise comes on then another like 45 n this comes on so its like 8 minuts deep into the last track n this comes on butr i def agree this shuda been promoted more,great sample persuaders
Everybody saying this needs to go back and listen to Just Blaze's track. Yeah, this beat's pretty dope, but Just Blaze's is absolutely solid. Drums are crisper, the sample's thinner, and overall it's just tighter.
Everybody says the original shits on this... but not because of Just Blaze... the OG shits on this because of TOM BROCK.. the original track sampled by Tom Brock was a better song.. But the REMIX and just the way Kanye chopped this up is amazing.. This is amazing work by Kanye I haev to admit as much as I hate the faggot. Hands Down my favorite best by him.
Haha. I think it's creative, I like it, but it's such an obvious sample, there's no real ingenuity here. The original is a song about girls, and he uses the sample to make A SONG ABOUT GIRLS.
I think the real dopeness comes when Kanye takes a song like Diamonds Are Forever and uses it to make a song where he spits with complete conviction about Rocafella (or him) not fallin off.
nah..I dont think the Persuaders track being of the same topic takes away from the creative aspect of his production at all.. I mean you are talking about the concept which is trivial opposed to the actual board work here. If you listen to the original sample he chopped the hell out of it. The way he composed it is really ill. He took a sample from a song that was already hot to death... and made it a whole new song. Same sounds, diff. arrangement. Doubt anyone can flip it hotter than that.
Do Yall like it f u do tell me.
yanna24ful 2 months ago
Michael WAS on the track. Why's that so hard to believe? Is it 'cause it's a JAY-Z song? What's the problem? Michael worked with a WHOLE SPECTRUM of artists. Get over it. :-)
Blueheart91 9 months ago
Mj was supposed to be on this track but Sony cancelled it.. =/
Fashion4life 11 months ago
This is not Michael Faggson so shut the fuck up please >:O
dat3rdsideboy386 11 months ago
@dat3rdsideboy386 hes not called that and hes on the remix apparently :P
JessOvBHE 10 months ago
@JessOvBHE IT'S NOT MICHAEL FAGGSON MOTHERFUCKER . TRYING GIRLS OUT - THE PERSUADERS . LOOK IT UP JACK ASS
dat3rdsideboy386 10 months ago
@dat3rdsideboy386 PFFFFFFFFFFT soz dont bang me dick head
and i fuckin knew that but it still dont mean MJ cant be in it
JessOvBHE 10 months ago
@JessOvBHE You make no sense obvious troll is an obvious troll
dat3rdsideboy386 10 months ago
@dat3rdsideboy386 lol nah im not trollin i just heard that MJ was on it, but apparently not so ya....my bad i guess xP hahaha
JessOvBHE 10 months ago
@dat3rdsideboy386 don't try to disrespect Michael Jackson, that's ridiculously unnecessary. And it would be cool if you actually had your own, justified, valid reason for trying to come at him, but all you did was suck up the media's bullshit and hop on his sack like the rest of the world before they sent in their R.I.P's
SmooveTheKing 9 months ago
lol stealin biggies lryics & a leapercon/ irish beat wut tha hell
youngmoneymeric 1 year ago
i think we'll never see the instrumental to this....
Wayneisntdone 1 year ago
I have to find this instrumental! shit is fuckin crazy!
Wayneisntdone 1 year ago
`The voice on this is NOT MJ, however there is a version out there with MJ's verse. This is the sample from the song. The Michael Jackson version sounds like this however. It's just AWESOME to hear MJ on this with Jay-Z.
juleshills 1 year ago
Das Not MJ Yu Fuckin Asshole
southsidridah21043 1 year ago
@southsidridah21043 it is micheal jackson.
ether150 1 year ago
@ether150 You Fucking Idiot No It's Not It's From A Group Called The Persuaders
southsidridah21043 1 year ago
Apparently it is MJ. Wow!
justines70 1 year ago
REAL TALK!!! meann old school jam!
0211lin0 1 year ago
I think michael is singing in a diferent way.
fuckdasketsisback 1 year ago
this version kinda wack not as good as the original
bdailey412 1 year ago
MJ's voice is always the BEST OF ALL TIME!!
vivatherasmus 1 year ago 4
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AleezaChocolat 1 year ago
Many ppl dont even know MJ, Eddie Levert did background vocals for Stevie Wonder's "All I Do"...lol ANYWAY They can really adjust vocals to sound so weird....LOL
DeishaGuy 2 years ago
fuck man the remix is like 3 times better than the original hahha dose any one no where i can get this beat
udee24 2 years ago 9
that aint nobodies mike jack
Sharese6780 2 years ago
i could totally see mike not wanting his name on alot of stuff ya know..hes very secretive. Whos knows but mike did alot of songs and colabos with alot but after he passed its now they mention his name like "oh yeah he worked on this song with me back in 90"..im like dude you could have said something then ya know when you got that award like "thanks mike!"..but i guess it comes with the territory!..it would be a never ending list if everyone song he made and artist he colabo came out!!!
cheluvmj4evr 2 years ago 4
@cheluvmj4evr that makes alot of sense
datkidepik93 2 years ago
yeah he did get credit for simpson..i was making a point that he made alot of songs that no one at the time knew about but for "do the bart man" he didnt get credit for that..
and for the simpson episode he was not allowed to sing it to to his contract with sony. therefore they had i forget the name a guy impersonating mj for this episodes song "lisa its your birthday".."do the bart man" he got no credit....many reason he gets no credit is because of sony contract
cheluvmj4evr 2 years ago
I dunno ..MJ has ridiculous range, His natural voice wasnt high all the time..Mike did alot of background alot of people. Who knows now that Mike is gone suckas are coming outta the azz
AmazingWayz07 2 years ago 4
mj can sing is any melody so i would not be surprise if he did or did not alter the sounds as he still could sing
cheluvmj4evr 2 years ago
SONYS IS big giant AZZ that needs to be F***ED!
several songs ive listened to and thought it was mj saw no credit and turned out it was him..but sonys a douche thats another reason for the sony wars back in 2001..."they think my head is only in my music which it is but they did not think i was ahead of them..that i did not know what was going on."-mj
*holds up sign that fan gave*...sign says "SONY SUCKS!"
for the sack of this song the chorus and tones had to be different melody
cheluvmj4evr 2 years ago 4
its all because of sonys ass that mike did songs and because of the frigin contracts he get no credit
ie simpsons episodes ":Lisa its your birthday"...he wrote that song and sanged the orginal.."do the bart man"..wrote that songs got no frigin credit for it but others did!..
mj did backup vocals for bradys full moon album "it's not worth it"..check the song out..there are plenty of songs mj did back up for and half of em he get little to no credit...
cheluvmj4evr 2 years ago
He does get credit for the Simpsons if you look at the credits he goes by John Jay Smith.
And he got no credit for this song because he didnt want it because he wanted jay Z to get the credit for his own song.
Ambitionz0fARida 2 years ago
MJ, we love you!
nyroneuk 2 years ago
it sounds a little like Mike, but i dont think it is.
just my opinion.
KristinSOMETIMES1 2 years ago 2
Guys....
Michael isn't really doing that to his voice, they upped the pitch in studio, lol......
imahoslapper 2 years ago
Anyone who can say thats not Mike has issues..especially at the ending you hear his accent
718BAYBIE561LAYDIE 2 years ago
That's totally MJ! You can really tell from 3:44 on.
29Jeniffer 2 years ago
That's just the sample from The Persuaders listen here watch?v=HScDgVbRZfo
antibodyjenkins 2 years ago
Exactly, it was produced by Kanye West. Mike Jack is told be in the background vocals.
JimmyJones 2 years ago
MJ could alter his voice in many ways and I suspect his voice has also been digitally altered a little on this track. He wouldn't be given credit probably due to contract and legal restrictions.
poppylongstockings 2 years ago
Wow I can't believe that's Michael, I think he was making his voice sound different on purpose. MJ can do anything with vocals, it's cool!
prettyyoungthing89 2 years ago
That does not sound like Michael Jackson at all.
Maybe it's another viersion out there or something, but I do not think it 's this one....
albsurelove 2 years ago
if u listen to the backups over the sample they used like where he harmonizes it does sound like him from 3:55 got it clearer ..but why hide it all this time? i wonder what else he did with no credits.
smokiller 2 years ago 3
a lot of stuff.
Chinnyboy91 2 years ago
that's mj stop being ignorant
anuca2 2 years ago 3
C'est un remix, la voix de Mj a pu être changée dans les mixages...
mjvideo17 2 years ago
Thats so not MJ.
tshaynto 2 years ago
I dont think this is the Mj version?
TPV87 2 years ago
it's definitely mj
nneann 2 years ago 4
wow, see what mentioning mj's name can do for a song! i never would have bothered to listen to this song if jay z hadn't revealed that mj is on the track. sounds good although he's voice sounds different.
I think Mj chose to not be credited coz jay z is talking about f***ing!!!
Biinje88 2 years ago 5
they altered his voice or what??? its not MJ, not even close, hahahahaha, wow, this is fake
Draliongirl 2 years ago
what?? thats not Michael Jackson, wtf???, its fake
Draliongirl 2 years ago
im pretty sure its the "Persuaders" sample...I mean with Kanye West's ego he would of blabbed about that fact that they work with MJ on this track looong time ago
kerisha21 2 years ago
michael jackson had the type of voice that was not meant for background singing. He could do a lot with his voice.
jlilcutie 2 years ago
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jlilcutie 2 years ago
i don't think it sounds anything like MJ...having a very hard time believing that...kinda shady...why wound't u credit dude on the song in the first place
kerisha21 2 years ago
lol.. what a surprise... who knew what other things did he do
kayoresa 2 years ago
That sounds like teenage MJ!
valenecia 2 years ago 2
SO wich part'is MJ's?
Sad, that they give him credit after he dies....Before that they even didn't want to mention him on the song??!!!!!!!!
MICHAEL4everKING 2 years ago 4
i remember lissenin to dis remix in 2000 winter time on da radio all da time
TheJMH1992 2 years ago
fukkk i been lookn 4 this song 4 like 4eva!!thanxx 4 posting it!!i love dis remix betta!!
MZGSTA07 3 years ago
i'm not a fool, i'll take it up in summer skool........gotta love it!!!!!
tastikake518 3 years ago
wat is the song called that is at the beginning of this song where he says "im not a one girls guy"?
CvilleCeltics40 3 years ago
This songs badass, way better than the original, lovin the sample
EnglishYank84 3 years ago
Anything Jay touches turns to gold.
1973MaseratiBora 3 years ago
I luv this sample!!!!!!!!!!!1
piazzajordan2 3 years ago
i like the remix better
aufgaw 3 years ago 3
not as good as the original
fatboysbaby 3 years ago 2
I like the hook and chorus better in this remix imo it's better than the original
diedf47 3 years ago
Yeah Kanye did his thing on the beat but Just Blaze created The Blueprint album
BMack07 3 years ago
? Get the fuck outta here. Kanye did some dope ass beats on this album. He did Takeover, Izzo, Never Change, AND Heart of the City, the best songs on the album, imo
outforpresidents 3 years ago
Yeah I respect your opinion but the fact is that just blaze killed the blueprint especially the track "U Don't Know" jay's flow was at 100% on that beat you can't tell me that wasn't the shit
BMack07 3 years ago
even though i like just blaze better than kanye west, i still think kanye's beat (this one) is better than the original...but u dont know was the best song on the blueprint
SpikeTTV 3 years ago
dog i rember i first heard this this year and i was expecting to hear the original i was mad pissed when i heard this i nearly broke my mp3 lol
TevinD 3 years ago
Why u mad? This is so much better than the original.
AlphaQSilly 3 years ago 10
i love all jiggazs songs but this is to heartfelt to not be his best
maoriboyztoo 3 years ago
Yeah Kanye wasn't fuckin around when he did this beat and that sample
newt513 3 years ago 2
Kanye was a monster on this beat. Genius.
yokota126 3 years ago 3
also testify - common.. samples honey cone - innocent til proven guilty.. he should sample honey cone - stick up too.. thatd be dope.
hiphopioneer 3 years ago
kanye makes some mean beats..
heart of the city, lucifer, h to the izzo...
hiphopioneer 3 years ago 2
absolutely love this song. much better than the ori ginal.
mushii29 3 years ago
these 2 roc a fella niggas or takin ova lol lol i my 3 fav it rapper
1-jay-y
2-cassidy
3kanye west
gilbert0arenas 3 years ago
what beat did kanye sample?
iDontKnowOfficer 3 years ago
"Trying Girls Out" by 70's soul group The Persuaders, best known for their song "Thin Line Between Love and Hate"
Paczilla007 3 years ago 6
All she do is homework
I give her in-house tutorin
In and out I'm movin thru her student body union
LOL
fbrown118 3 years ago
Kanye is a legend. Wish i could hang with him just one day to observe his geniousness
smallsimba1 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Why u talkin bout kanye on Jay song? Anyway, Jay is genuis!! I love this song to DEATH!!
BRITTINI1 3 years ago
He produced this beat
smallsimba1 3 years ago 3
He produced this song Duh!
rbrown0423 3 years ago
i like how u got mad hahaha like u know Jay or somethn
chickenwang4 3 years ago
dumazz
deeyou1 3 years ago
umm prolly cuz he made the beat.. wow people do ur reseatch before yall comment. there should be a disclaimer or something
bnreal800 3 years ago
"Who you with, Who you wanna be fukkin?"
My theme song
"love Jay with your mind girl, and not your heart"
I LOVE this song wish it was longer.
chonielopez 3 years ago
i had sex on this track in lagos...
kackod101 3 years ago 2
LOL.
mostlyslick 3 years ago
damn...freshman high school year..the memories
JBrown910 4 years ago 4
Our time 2gether is our 2gether...and uh, our time apart is our time apart...so love Jay with ur mind not your heart...
daboacena 4 years ago 7
yeah dis shit should've been a single i luv dis track
gangstagrillz16 4 years ago 9
"Who u lovin, Who u wanna be fukkin?"
KanadianKappa 4 years ago 7
love dis joint, better than the original, better lyrics and beat
vic2354 4 years ago 13
kanye west produced this one
cary86 4 years ago 5
This song should've been made a single...one of the hottest party tracks off the blueprint!
ewaiyaki 4 years ago 13
i dont know why this one didnt make it and that original one did and it is ugly this one is way better
whistler059 4 years ago
This track's decent, but come on, the original SHITS ON THIS!!!
jlipin3 3 years ago
i always liked this track n it got slept on
YoungTrizz88 4 years ago 7
Who Produced This version, they should have replaced this one with Just Blaze's one
burrito813 4 years ago
Kanye
benjamincorbett 4 years ago 3
it made the album both were on it,this comes after momma love me then like 45 seconds of blank air then a song lyrical exercise comes on then another like 45 n this comes on so its like 8 minuts deep into the last track n this comes on butr i def agree this shuda been promoted more,great sample persuaders
SouLessrapMYSPACE 4 years ago 3
this was my shit.. it was on the blueprint(without the cussin) on a long track... hot shit
dman05 4 years ago
who u luvin, who u wanna be fkn *
LumiLicious 4 years ago
gotta agree this is killing the orginal
nikebias 4 years ago 2
this is better than the original song X 1000!
qqqqqqqq 4 years ago 8
The lyrics are better than the 1st, although they both good.
benjamincorbett 4 years ago 3
HOTTTTT ! thanx 4 posting this vid !
SABRINAJS 4 years ago
muchy better than the original. Kanye killed blaze on production in this.
princeshakaZ 4 years ago 9
Everybody saying this needs to go back and listen to Just Blaze's track. Yeah, this beat's pretty dope, but Just Blaze's is absolutely solid. Drums are crisper, the sample's thinner, and overall it's just tighter.
jlipin3 3 years ago
Everybody says the original shits on this... but not because of Just Blaze... the OG shits on this because of TOM BROCK.. the original track sampled by Tom Brock was a better song.. But the REMIX and just the way Kanye chopped this up is amazing.. This is amazing work by Kanye I haev to admit as much as I hate the faggot. Hands Down my favorite best by him.
deeyou1 3 years ago
Haha. I think it's creative, I like it, but it's such an obvious sample, there's no real ingenuity here. The original is a song about girls, and he uses the sample to make A SONG ABOUT GIRLS.
I think the real dopeness comes when Kanye takes a song like Diamonds Are Forever and uses it to make a song where he spits with complete conviction about Rocafella (or him) not fallin off.
You dig? Or no?
jlipin3 3 years ago
nah..I dont think the Persuaders track being of the same topic takes away from the creative aspect of his production at all.. I mean you are talking about the concept which is trivial opposed to the actual board work here. If you listen to the original sample he chopped the hell out of it. The way he composed it is really ill. He took a sample from a song that was already hot to death... and made it a whole new song. Same sounds, diff. arrangement. Doubt anyone can flip it hotter than that.
deeyou1 3 years ago
Is it just me or does anyone else like this version more than the original? :\
"Our time together is our time together and uh
our time apart is our time apart so love Jay with your mind girl and not your heart"
Fucking Ill
SnoopG79 4 years ago 3
i am glad that this version wasn't released as a single.
wrassleman 4 years ago
Dis song is da shit
xXxIgNeOuSxXx 4 years ago 3
jay-z is my nigga
wownaman13 4 years ago
Kicks the shit out of the original. Better lyrics, better beat, better everything.
tarzanofcouches 4 years ago 4
I luv da remix!
skylathorina 4 years ago 3
shid im dont know
elviswilliamsjr 4 years ago
this is way better than the first
elviswilliamsjr 4 years ago
What song did he sample for the remix?
llehcin 4 years ago
"Trying Girls Out" by 70's soul group The Persuaders, best known for their song "Thin Line Between Love and Hate"
Paczilla007 4 years ago
Thanks for the info.
llehcin 4 years ago
this was much better then the orignal!!!!
moneymakinggreg 4 years ago
"..luv jay wit ya mind girl not wit ya heart..."
iLLeSt
kre82 4 years ago
You think Jigga wishes he released this as the original? A far better song IMHO.
teamspirit5 4 years ago
lol what? This isnt as good as the original. But it is a good remix.
oldgateway 4 years ago
yes sirr
derbear23 4 years ago
this shit is tight
meldon100 4 years ago
back in 6th grade, this was the shit.....
meldon100 4 years ago
best remix by jayz
loreansalido 4 years ago
classic shit
jonlemar 4 years ago
hot
guccionme 4 years ago
thtz that funk!
Righello 4 years ago