10 minutes Judo knowledge of Masahiko Kimura

[rogeres83]

muito bom gostei

[juhas514]

i like the part when he was applying a kimura

[maikopskoy]

i tried it in my dreams, i think it worked :)

[TKDsuckass]

Can anybody tell me what's this move called 3:57. i been trying to master this for while now it's my fav.

[jiujitsu4life1]

Kimura was good, but dude let him do every move to him, why all the kicking around and wincing in pain faces like he was trying to resist. He wasn't trying to resist. And if you want to know why they call it Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, recognize that it was Meada who brough JUDO over to brazil, which was then turned back into Jiu Jitsu, through refinement of the art. Look it up on wiki. Respect to these guys though. True martial artists. Joe Rogan trains & would tap you internet warrior asses out

[VCthaGOATdunker]

@jiujitsu4life1

This was Kimura in his 60s though. If he did this demonstration in his prime, you best believe he would have man handled these guys with any move.

[KatameDo]

 * How the fuck did grappling skill come to be thought of as Brazillian??

People like that douche Joe Rogan. Every time somebody executes a triangle choke in the UFC, Rogan will say that's excellent BJJ. Triangle choke was created by JUDOKA!!!! It's the same with arm bars, Omoplatas, etc.. Every grappling technique is BJJ. Makes me want to puke. The bad part is all of the BJJ fanboys who don't know Judo history. I imagine the Gracies had an EXTENSIVE library of Judo books.

[deek77]

@KatameDo They had more just books, they had training from a senior student of Jigoro Kano himself. Helio's brother Carlos, was taught judo by Mitsuyo Maeda, and then Carlos taught Helio and his other brothers.  Then Helio modified what he learned to suit his body type, BJJ was the result.

[CNCTEMATIC]

How the fuck did grappling skill come to be thought of as Brazillian??

[luismelhernandez1974]

GREATNESS



[kevanowich1]

perfection



[TheFreedomSpeaker]

i didnt get the last tap-out.. what did he do to make him tap?

[juicespirit]

@TheFreedomSpeaker armbar

[UnitedPebbles]

Mori men liked to come down from the mountain in surprise visits to the flat land of farming villages of "Owari". Then you know Judo is a "close encounter" art of "force". You know all those years of lonesome on the mountains, even zen itself can't cure!

Lol.

[UnitedPebbles]

Judo is a wrestling art? No? I read in an old magazine a long time ago, that the art was practiced by the Mori clan. It is used by monks to neutralize protesting female villagers/Oda clan. It have an incentive of it own! Most of the practitioners are exceptional thick in bone mass, body weight, and penis size! Yes, penis size. Why would a Buddhist monk need any of these criteria?

Originally, I thought every cavalry man practiced Judo. Maybe you know something? I don't pract. Judo!

[MrYowatsgud]

Mr. Kimura needs to uchi mata, and triangle choke whoever did his haircut.

[Jianju69]

Interesting how he pulls his ousotogari to prepare for kesagatame; makes me realize how slow I am in making that transition. Also embodies the fundamental principle of using the minimum amount of force necessary. I find myself replaying this video over & over again. Excellent.

[TakeshixStudios]

What is it with all of these Judo v.s BJJ comments? they both have been involving into amazing Martial Arts. STFU!

[aftercarecarez]

the kimura was a catch wrestling move before it ws a judo move, and then bjj got it from kimura himself....same as the standing choke/neck crank he shows at around 7 minute mark....that was a catch wresting move....however i guess no move belongs to any art becasuse they all grow and evolve off each other.....kimura was the man tho!!! id love to learn some judo

[dannielpreto]

He really likes that Reverse Ude Garami

[laruso099]

si quieren ninjas, peleadores de kun fu cual quier peliculao cual quier anime japones

este señor es realmente el hombre detras de la leyenda

[6ookstazz]

I think its funny that theres a bunch of gracies making excuses of Helios loss so what if there was a weight difference did anybody notice the height or the reach difference between Helio and masahiko???

[LeonLaguna]

The Great Kimura! amazing video!

[tune5k]

He says I can be champion. In fact he says I must be champion. It pushes us beyond our physical limits....to another place....way outside or way inside...I don't where exactly.....but I've been there.

[Jozsef86330]

@tune5k lol

[Brady2k10]

they say no one before Kimura, no one after, but i think differently, THEY say that, i think Kimura worked hard to ensure students of his would carry on his excellent teaching methods

[joopsnoop]

木村以前木村なし木村以後木村なし。

[chchjudoschool]

Sosai oyama copy kimura sensei 100 man challenge!

Judo's strength is randori compared to traditional jujitsu!??

Randori is a Kano sensei invention!

[electronikita]

Hahahah and Helio had a coffin standing in the dojo saying that it was for Kimura=) Makes me smile.

[thearmandraymond]

@electronikita when and can you show this bullshit

[bjjc51192]

Much respect to this man.

[Brady2k10]

but then again, thats me talking with ignorance, i apologise. He was a skilled martial artist and deserves respect. I need to learn not to judge before i know about things, like ive never done BJJ, how and why should i judge it right? i take tht last comment back, that was my ignorance speaking.

[sabreharyanto]

Oyama was considered the best fighter from Japan during that time, even Kimura was afraid of him. Oyama was Shotokan karateka, and he founded his own karate sect(Kyokushin).

[kashpc]

@sabreharyanto Oyama practiced not only Shotokan, but goju ryu, Judo and taikiken. Our sosai was great, but I don't think kimura would be "afraid" to fight him. Let's say they had respect for each other, as it should be.

[joopsnoop]

@kashpc Oyama did not do Taikiken. That is a myth. He did Shotokan as a teen. His Goju was with So Neichu who was the dojo and business partner of Yamaguchi. And Kimura ALSO taught Goju at this dojo!

There is some really interesting information about Kimura and his relationship with Oyama and So Neichu in an online ebook called "The Budo Karate of Mas Oyama" by Shihan Cameron Quinn. He has a web page where it is for sale very cheap. Great reading if you like Kimura.

[Endru85x]

The martial arts were not created by asians. Probably the wrestling is the oldest art of fighting, and it was not invented by Asians.

No disrespect for any art, I do Kung fu and BJJ and i like them both:) One art is not enough for all situations...

[chavamma]

I feel sorry to correct you but, self defense originated in Okinawa Japan although there was massive trade between India, China, Japan and many other countries that had a big part in its origin. The history is derrived to around 500bc.

[Endru85x]

Wrestling is dated from 3500 to 5000 bc so it is still older. Kung fu is older than karate too. The term "karate" means empty hands now, but in former times it had other meaning- chinese hands. If i remember corecctly, Gichin Funakoshi made the change of meaning. So no need to correct, i am right :)

[chavamma]

No, you're still wrong, Notice I mentioned self defense not Karate. Goshin Jutsu which translates as self defense art, goes back further to ancient egyptian origin. Also all self defense has it's origin however it all end up in Okinawa Japan.

-Kind Regards- ChavaMMA

[Endru85x]

Well, i thought you mean sports of fighting.

BUT.....kung fu be treated as self defence. It was not created for fighting in tournaments. All those self defense techniques as joint locks, throws, defence against weapon comes form kung fu. Maybe it took other shape in Okinawa. For me, kung fu is still older- as self defense and martial arts in general. Anyway, thank for nice discussion.

[chavamma]

No not sports fighting, also TKD is a great art & I respect it however, It's not GOSHIN JUTSU. Due to that it Compromises your balance alot A Judoka or JuJutsu practitioner would more than likely be victorious over a Taekwondo practitioner. Like wise nice sharing facts with you, glad there's knowledgeable people whom I can have a good conversation with on youtube. Other's would have lost it & trolled at me with profanity and what not.

-Kind Regards- ChavaMMA

[1308lee]

@chavamma hang on... 'self defense' didnt 'originate' anywhere... im guessing it 'originated' when someone hit someone else, and they didnt like it, so they hit em back?

[young0813]

brazilian propaganda makes heros out of the gracies even though they got there ass kicked its annoying that asians are not given enough respect we created martial arts

[patrickangus16]

look, I practice judo but it´s a fact that BJJ practitionners do mostly ne waza, they have diserved the respect they got, and this doesn´t mean Japanese taditionnal arts (karatedo, aikido,jujutsu,judo,nihon tai jutsu, nunjutsu etc...) aren´t unrespected!!!sambo and BJJ come out of judo, which comes out of Jujutsu, no one ignores this!

[Snoochy2006]

Helio isn't the greatest Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu fighter ever. Carlson beat him when he was only 17. If it was Rolls, Rickson, or Roger it may have have ended different. But I'm not taking anything away from Kimura at all. I'm a Judo and Sambo player as well as Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu.

[sabreharyanto]

@Snoochy2006

how do you know Carlson beat his old uncle helio when he was 17? Thats very strange because Helio was his own uncle and was one of the founders of BJJ along with Carlson's father.

Its not really about who was the greatest ever. Matt hughes would school Helio as well. Helio was The grandfather of BJJ.

Rickson was 3 years old when this event took place dude.

[josh09295]

I strongly agree if master kimura was even LIGHTER than helio he still would have got demolished kimuras skill was to out of reach for master gracie no disrespect at all but I honestly dont think he could have ever beat him

[spurious]

@josh09295 Kimura himself said that due to the weight discrepancy, if Helio would last more than three minutes, he could have considered the fight a win in his favor.

[dirtyfighter34]

@spurious he was being polite as the bushido way requires, remember the Gracies say BJJ can let anyone, regardless of size beat a larger opponent... so one would think a master of BJJ could be any Judo guy right? hahaha wrong.

[l3054]

@josh09295 yea too many fanboys are going to be spitting out their drinks when they read this its true kimura was a genius

[VCthaGOATdunker]

Helio was hilarious in claiming that he would have submitted Kimura if they were the same weight.

He was thrown around, completely dominated every single second of the match and ended up with a broken arm in 2 places. Yet if WEIGHT wasn't an issue he would have submitted him?

Wow, I guess an issue with weight makes a guy go from being completely destroyed to winning with submission..

[winged789]

Was not Gjj/bjj's whole trademark the little guy beats big guy thing? If you are going to make excuses about weight after the fact, don't fight the guy at all.

[streetthug4life]

I think youre a little confused. it's every other karate wing chun martial art that preaches that the little guy beats the big guy. as far as BJJ goes, it is based in the reality that: skill CAN surpass strenght, but ultimately you want to BECOME big and strong.

[Codisious]

awesome man, thank you for this footage of the great one

[jimmcom]

No one before Kimura no one after

[kev3145]

@jimmcom Karo Parisyan

[jimmcom]

@kev3145 i dont think so...not even close

[Rayman77792]

@jimmcom What about Kano Jigoro the founder of judo.

[jimmcom]

@Rayman77792 what i wrote is a Japanese expression,not mine althought i do believe that Kimura was one of the best ever

[TENNSUMITSUMA]

@jimmcom

what about the person that taught him, and his teacher, and so on all the way back to who ever invented jap jujutsu (notice the spelling)

[karateman83]

@jimmcom one of the greatest... but what aobut Kyozo Mifune?? He has more reputation in Japan

[Not2Be0utDone]

you just had to mention you met helio, do you enjoy name dropping?

[Not2Be0utDone]

I'm not entirely sure about that, according to Kimura when he grapped with Helio, he had a 15 lb advantage. However, depending on which Gracie you ask, the weight difference is somewhere in the 50-80 lbs. range. So what's with the discrepancy?

[Not2Be0utDone]

After the fight, Helio concluded that if they weighed the same then he would've submitted Kimura. Yes, there's some validity to that statement, but isn't BJJ supposed to be "small man" jiu jitsu. Meaning, with the right technique, you can overcome size and strength? They always have excuses why they lost.

[tgtennis]

That was the case, but let's also consider this was the first time Kimura had been in a match that he could not win by throw or pin - as I recall reading in his book. Therefore the weight advantage was at least partially offset by Helio's selection of the rules. The mats were also too soft for Kimura's throws to seriously hurt Helio, an advantage Kimura was used to.

[fidjibajs1]

its tru that he weigh more but helio was 10 cm taller wich couldve been an excuse for kimura but he did not complain!

[coolasweed]

kimura never complained about shit he was given, he just ate it up and got stronger because of it. Its something we could ALL learn from nowadays.

[patrickangus16]

you don´t know to what point you´re right....do you know when kimura arrived, in his cabin there was a coffin, and when he went to the tatami people threw eggs at him???

[esauofrensfal]

I think you're confused. He's gotta be talking 15kg.

Kimura competed at a general weight of 187lbs (85kg) his entire career. Helio was much smaller and probably weight around 135lbs (60kg). That ratio makes much more sense.

Helio never made excuses for himself when it came to his losses (and it's not like Kimura was his only loss). Still, the fact that a guy with little-to-no athletic ability was able to compete with a guy like Kimura, a truly great competitor and athlete, says enough.

[rofldan]

the dude looked like he had waaaaaay more than 15 pounds on helio.

[EvolutionaryLoophole]

They could have both been the same weight and it wouldn't have mattered. Kimura would have tooled him.

[mrstorey89]

very true. they even renamed one of their favorite armlocks after him in their schools.

[mddog]

Moron, it is you that confuse real teachers champions, with garbage like Helio Gracie!

[azraelangelofred]

I really wish I could have trained under Masahiko Kimura. He knows his stuff so well. I'm willing to bet 10 minutes with Masahiko Kimura would make me a MUCH better grappler.

[Elementertainment]

Moron this is judo not jiujitsu. Go back to gay grappling.

[azraelangelofred]

I KNOW it's Judo, you freakin IDIOT. Maybe you didn't pay attention in school, but GRAPPLING is defined in the English Dictionary as "A term referred to the gripping, handling and controlling of an opponent without the use of strikes. Sports that use grappling include Brazilian jiu-jitsu, catch wrestling, Judo, luta livre esportiva, mixed martial arts, Sambo, and wrestling." And my grandpa is a 2nd Black Belt in Judo, and hence Judo is the GRAPPLING art I use the most, so SCREW YOU, punk!

[mddog]

come on men giv him a chance!

[TamyS2Wallace]

ótimo, pois expressa a finalização da luta,

objetividade; istoé, Arte marcial.

Moraes.

[redcapKO]

Kimura did not said that if Helio lasted longer than 3 minutes Gracie would be deemed winner, or that kimura invited Gracie in Japan. Kimura is humble, in fact he saw a coffin and was said that he would be put in to that coffin after Helio defeated him. My respect for the Great Helio for ushering mix martial arts. His descendants however maked stories is what I disliked for profit, making excuses for Helio, he named it Kimura tells a lot more than those claimed lies. The Helio-kimura lock!

[azraelangelofred]

My friend, I have a Brazilian friend who is quite fluent in English and Portuguese, and we both looked at the newspaper concerning Grace VS Kimura. That was what Kimura said in answer. And Gracie did indeed say if he was the same weight, he would defeat him, claiming a "moral victory".

[redcapKO]

Your reply to my comment and the comments here shows the controversy revolving this fight. Facts depend upon the sources you read, even newspaper or the sources of the writers. In this I wont burrow myself much. What I know Gracies disregard weight advantage and always state the superiority of technique over strength , this is also what is for Kimura. Kimura fought larger guys and even attested the smaller could defaetd the bigger to doubting Gorry Guerrero(200 kg).

[redcapKO]

Sorry my friend forgot I thing, If he indeed said that we must analyze and take the statement in his time and point of view, was he stating it in somewhat Judo rule for Ippon. For me as BJJ always assert the effectiveness of the system in the street I think just one Ippon in the pavement(not in the mat) finishes the job before any lock - Kimura threw him. Respect for both of them, to Helio for naming it Kimura lock, a classic fight afetr so many generations still one of the most discussed.

[azraelangelofred]

Believe me, i agree with you completely. Size is irrelevant. And both deserve respect. You do have a point, newspapers can be full of crap sometimes. Both Judo, and BJJ, and just about any art I've studied agree: size, and strength can be overcome by experience and skill. I have defeated larger and smaller, and been BEATEN by larger and smaller, of many styles. Keeps me humble, I hope. ;)

[SafaFenoner]

Latin people have lots of undue pride... They will claim victory even when none is due. They can't have someone beat their legendary master, so they have to make excuses for him.

Seriously, when's the last time you heard a martial art master make excuses like "Oh you are bigger than me." Don't fucking fight him if you think you are going to lose. Helio thought he would win, he was wrong.

He even had an advantage because he choose the location. The ground was SOFT --- Or else he would be DEAD.

[publicatdamagnificen]

Safa: What you said was politically incorrect. Nevertheless, is so true. I used to work out at the San Diego Fight Club. to make a long story short, we'd cross the border into Mexico and participate in tourneys.

We handed the Latino's asses to thems, I mean, we ate their lunch, and popped the bag. Do you not know, that they always came up with one excuse after another about why they lost.

Heat, water, flu, traffic, domestic shit. Not ONCE did they say: "Hey you beat us fair and square"

[sabreharyanto]

@redcapKO

I agree with you I saw 1 asian(chinese) dude judo threw some big dude and smashed his face and teeth.

[mddog]

Moral victory my ass!

[mddog]

that thrue friend, all Gracie say about sensei kimura, was just lies! Gracies= profit

[publicatdamagnificen]

Another thing. Az: You are so right on. The Gracie's attitude was contrary to the spirit of the martial arts. I'm sure you guys are like me: If you lose, own up to it, but I hate excuses!!

When Royce lost once, it was "because he got married"...Next loss: "I had the flu"...Next loss: "I was outweighted by 50lbs". It's like dude, shut the f**k up. Ya lost, now deal with it podnah!

[Iscariott2]

And then he got caught taking roids

[publicatdamagnificen]

Hehehe....Yeah, you're 100% right Iscariott2.

[ticosexy22]

@Iscariott2 Who was caught taking roids?

[Iscariott2]

@ticosexy22 Royce after his fight with Saku in the states.

[BrentShiver]

love the osoto makikomi at 4:09

[SpawnofHastur]

I love how Kimura seamlessly shifts from an ippon seionage into an uchi-makikomi. Although I myself prefer hip throws (o-soto-gari is pretty cool, but not as fun), I might have to crib that trick for myself.

I love the makikomi throws; they're perfect for a submission match- you land right in position for ne-waza, and wind your opponent with the impact.

[nior000]

i been mostly obsessed with ninjutsu for a while now but after seing some judo im starting to admire judo a lil more

[sj507]

Too bad more Judo schools dont teach like this guy did. Most are only concerned with the sport aspect .

[publicatdamagnificen]

You're absolutely right!...Judo is still a good self defense system, but Judo allowed it's self defense apsects be compromised by the Olympics....Same thinkg with Tae Kwon Do.

[sleepykid156]

this is what happens when Sensei and Sahbumnims are filled with vain glory and blinded by money

[judoI2]

olympic judokas are dangerous

[publicatdamagnificen]

Allow me to explain: I really didn't explain myself thoroughly. What I meant to say was that many dojo's emphasize the "sport" aspect of Judo over the "self defense" aspects of Judo b/c they want to train Olympic & tournament champions. do you feel me?

[koukunut]

totally agree. taht's why you should try to find a dojo or dojan that teach traditional arts. TKD is totally different when you learn it the traditional way.

[thesensei]

He nearly killed the founder of Gracie (aka Brazilian) Jiujitsu and that's not an exaggeration in the least, it's a well documented fact. ;)

[GWHS10]

He also said hed take him in less than 3 minutes when the match lasted 13 thats another fact

[thesensei]

That's true too...they both did a fantastic job in that match. Truly legendary.

[chillout010]

Helio was the man, but I woulnd't say he did "a fantastic job" there. He got taken down very early in the fight and Kimura stayed on side control for pretty much the rest of the fight unitl he got the...well....kimura.

Helio didn't mount any type of offensive really.

[tehpwnrer]

gracie would have been knocked out if he would have been thrown on concrete or on the street, but the stupid mats didnt allow him thats another fact

[azraelangelofred]

In regards to GWHS10's comment, you are mistaken, friend. Kimura said, in response to everyone talking about the weight advantage Kimura had, that if Gracie lasted longer than 3 minutes, he should be deemed the winner. I admire Kimura. He was a man of humility and respect. More than I can say for the Gracie's, bringing out a coffin for Kimura, then after losing claiming it was all the weight advantage, and he would've won. The Gracies are masters of submissions, but I can't stand their arrogance

[publicatdamagnificen]

I used to be, in my opinion the greatest fan of the Gracies. I talked shit...Major shit! Bjj is the greatest thing on earth blah blah blah. Well, I saw the Gracies have their asses handed to them one-by-one!

Renzo, Royler,Ryan, Royce, got either choked out, tapped out, or knocked the f**k out!  I saw other Bjj practioners get a royal beatdown. I saw my sifu get beat in Tijuana (I lived in San Diego)

Then I had a revelation:

GRACIE JIU JITSU IS NOT THE "ULTIMATE ART"!!!

[madroper]

Masahiko Kimura RULESSSSSSSSSSS

[nucopia]

Very nice

[irishclubswinger]

So much more the some "other" guys, Masahiko is a legend!