To clarify: Rolls and rumbles from lightning channels do not give polarity, neither for cracks or whips. The higher the input the lower the pitch it produces. Those cracks heard on the video purely exhibit that the strike was close to the observer. . Rumbles and rolls of thunder are the effects of segments of the channel being expanded, and the resultant noise reaches a person and we hear it as rumbles or rolls. The observer's location to the visible lightning channel gives different sounds
The sound of thunder represents nothing to do with the type of strike it was. Thunder is thunder whether it is from IC, Cg or whatever. The length of the thunder boom etc does tell you how long the lightning channel would have been and your positioning to the strike however. So saying it's a positive strike is just incorrect - even saying it's a negative strike is incorrect just by the thunder.
Sorry but have to disagree with you. Telling the diff between CG and CC.. yes you are right.. you can't.
But the huge amounts of power needed for a 'positive' AG (Anvil-Ground) strike to occur and the extreme long length of the strike lead to much more percussive thunder developing than with the usual short relatively low powered CG strike.
Was this strike 'positive' ? No idea as I wasn't there to compare to the rest of the storm. wikipediadotorg/wiki/Lightning#Positive_lightning
@LonelyLonelyLoner Count the seconds between the flash and the boom, and multiply by the speed of sound. It's 1 km for every three seconds, or one mile for every five seconds.
the reason for the ''bomb sounding'' thunder is that the bolt may well have struck a good conductor such as copper, meaning many thousands more amps would have been able to flow due to low resistivity. and obvs the more amps, the more hotter the bolt would have been. and if this combines with a bolt from the upper levels of the anvil, you'll get a serious bang !!
I saw a documentary once which investigated why positive bolts occur, and why they are rarer than negative ones. Also, a study was carried out and there was a far higher proportion of positive charges in W and NW Europe (inc UK) than anywhere else in the world.
I can vouch for the fact I have seen many positive bolts in the past, with that kind of thunder. In fact there was a positive bolt in July 09, storm was miles away but this huge flash occurred, and the bomb like thunder was incredible
I like it ... Positive lighting ... WOW sound ... OMG ... recorded audio is poor for sound , You must heart sound in nature . First time When I heard this sound I was scared to death ~ During Thunderstorm I opened Window xD Nice sound / WAVE
that's weird how it makes the cracking sound...the rumbling is what you mostly hear. It sounds like a garbage truck falling from the empire state building and hitting the ground.
well, the closer a lightning strike the more it sounds like a crack. But this one seemed more powerful but nonetheless can't say myself it was positive or not.
well no-one can really, unless you were measuring it. The thunder seemed to last for 20-30 seconds suggesting the shear radial area of the lightning, and coupled with the explosiveness suggests upper-cloud origins, hence +ve. But yeah, you're right, it may not have been. -ve C-C tends to be really weak and crackley, despite the distance away.
Thunder signature is typical of a multi-stroke NEGATIVE CG discharge originating from a mid-level negative charge centre most likely given the timings. Quite short in spatial length-about 6 miles long minimum, main channel just over 1 mile away. Typical sound of a relatively high current discharge of many tens of kA (likely over 100 kA), but it's difficult to say what the current rise time is which is more important. Rare, but not that high on the global thunder-loudness scale believe it or not.
Been in a building (windows open) that was struck by lightning and believe the bang was louder then that. When i say bang that is what i mean, it was many year ago when i was at school and the whole class thought a bomb had gone off - that was until the teacher explained it was lightning.
The explosion set of car alarms and the vibrations were felt even in the 1st floor class room.
i've also heard many, and powerfull CC's, but never one that sounded like that. but remember... if this was a real CC... the the lightning has (like any other strikes) travel through the whole channel.. then the beginning thunder should also be sounding loud right?
i find it also very suspicious that... the first bolt is very bright.. the following (when we can see the piece of CC) is les bright.. it may be a positive cloud ground with some CC connection, wich CG+ often has. however... I'm in Oklahoma, but I have seen and heard positive strikes, but i've never heard one sounding like this. anyway.. nice catch, but I'm not sure if there is a ground connection or not... i think there is though..
lightning bolts come in different kinds of intensity, I've seen lightning bolts that were really close (less than a second away) and didn't sound so huge relative to the distance that they were at, this must've been a big one.
thats nothing last night a bolt twice as wide as that came within like half a mile of me. it was intense. I was literally in the center of a lightening storm.
Thinking about the nature of a positive flash, and hearing that sound gave me the chills! Now, can you imagine having one hit within, say, 500 feet? That'd be a little more than I'd want, thank you.
Damn!, after all that time it still sounded like a bomb, it could've been a positive. We get those sometimes here in michigan they're rare and they happen after lightning stopped flashing for a while at the end of the storm and all of sudden you see a big flash and takes a while to hear it but it's really deep and loud that's probably how you can tell if it's a positive.
It was probably a positive bolt, b/c it was pink. Normal strikes are negative and have a bluish glow. Positive bolts are 10 times more powerful and have louder thunder.
Yeah it did have Upper-anvil origins (usually where the Positive lightning originates) because of the duration of the thunder. It's only pink because thats how my old video camera sees lightning in the dark (it was actually blue when I saw it).
the colour of the lightning streak is dependant on the context of the atmosphere it's travelling through. The blue glow is the natural spectrum of colour from our Nitrogren/Oxygen mix. Colour of Lightning from a far distance can be "filtered" by other things such as dust, dry/moist air, and precipitation. Visible light (from a lightning) passing through hail bands is thought to give it a greeny colour (similar to how hail-laden T-clouds cause "greenage").
That thunder was kinda loud... but seriously, you HAVE to check this strike out...it's from a storm that happened where I live just this past week, and it had lightning unlike I've ever seen before, and loud explosive thunder... /watch?v=a-h3eY9GF30
fucks almighty. Now thats a nice collection of thunder clapping action. Ive only been in one storm that i could remember here in Ohio with over charged C to C strikes. The thunder sounded alot like a few loaded TU-154s or 727s on take off. a very deep and house rattling rumble.
Whenever I've seen lightning strike really close by, sometimes leading up to the thunder itself, there is a hissing sound that sounds almost like a fuse being set for a stick of dynamite...is there a reason for this? Just figured I'd ask xD
might be the sound of the branches from the leader channel reaching your ears first (weaker faint strands that only last for a fraction of a second that come off the main bolt).
Eh? The longer the thunder the longer the lightning channel is. The closer the lightning is or the higher the power of a lightning, the louder the thunder.
Am I right in saying that as it produced more of a sudden bang than a thunderous roll, it was a fairly short length spark? I love the high frequency component of that first blast. Sounds like it made someone's roof shake!
no the length of the lightning channel is generally determined by the length of the thunder (typically), in which case this was VERY long and must have had upper-level origins. (5 seconds = 1 mile, so this was at least 5-6 miles long)
Intra-Cloud (Sheet) and P-F (Positive Flash). A P-F is a C-G only 5 times the length and coming from the top of the cloud rather than through it's base. :)
wow sick !!!!
emixam101 7 months ago
BLOODY HELL!
Koaslice191 8 months ago
To clarify: Rolls and rumbles from lightning channels do not give polarity, neither for cracks or whips. The higher the input the lower the pitch it produces. Those cracks heard on the video purely exhibit that the strike was close to the observer. . Rumbles and rolls of thunder are the effects of segments of the channel being expanded, and the resultant noise reaches a person and we hear it as rumbles or rolls. The observer's location to the visible lightning channel gives different sounds
mikedwn 8 months ago
try to believe would would have happended with your ears if the lighting would have been closer oO
MultiKenny64 8 months ago
The sound of thunder represents nothing to do with the type of strike it was. Thunder is thunder whether it is from IC, Cg or whatever. The length of the thunder boom etc does tell you how long the lightning channel would have been and your positioning to the strike however. So saying it's a positive strike is just incorrect - even saying it's a negative strike is incorrect just by the thunder.
mikedwn 9 months ago
@mikedwn
Sorry but have to disagree with you. Telling the diff between CG and CC.. yes you are right.. you can't.
But the huge amounts of power needed for a 'positive' AG (Anvil-Ground) strike to occur and the extreme long length of the strike lead to much more percussive thunder developing than with the usual short relatively low powered CG strike.
Was this strike 'positive' ? No idea as I wasn't there to compare to the rest of the storm. wikipediadotorg/wiki/Lightning#Positive_lightning
SimoWill75 8 months ago
how do u measure the distance of a thunder??
LonelyLonelyLoner 9 months ago
@LonelyLonelyLoner Count the seconds between the flash and the boom, and multiply by the speed of sound. It's 1 km for every three seconds, or one mile for every five seconds.
Envergure 9 months ago
im positive thats positive....
boundaryzero 10 months ago
Loud pulsive thunderwave!!
TheTRancel0ver 10 months ago
omfg!
hoppel089 11 months ago
BLOODY HELL! THAT was a real BUZZ!
Koaslice191 11 months ago
Holy shit what is that metal creaky sound at 0:10
300man04 1 year ago
that must have been a massive storm with some amps
djlimit48 1 year ago
the reason for the ''bomb sounding'' thunder is that the bolt may well have struck a good conductor such as copper, meaning many thousands more amps would have been able to flow due to low resistivity. and obvs the more amps, the more hotter the bolt would have been. and if this combines with a bolt from the upper levels of the anvil, you'll get a serious bang !!
lambtikaphall 1 year ago
massive amps there then nice
djlimit48 1 year ago
awesome, great thunder
undertaker4fan 1 year ago
if you pause it at 0:01 it looks really really bright
Nata2700 1 year ago
i have a thunder clap in my video where u can hear the metalic sound also! check it out! =)
medfordORlightning 1 year ago
#OMG
StudioGhibliFan22966 1 year ago
:-o that was amazing! Sounds like someone is getting whipped by a huuuge cane!
I heard thunder a lot like this during a winter storm as a potent cold front came moved NE across the Isle of Wight.
spongersurfer 1 year ago
I saw a documentary once which investigated why positive bolts occur, and why they are rarer than negative ones. Also, a study was carried out and there was a far higher proportion of positive charges in W and NW Europe (inc UK) than anywhere else in the world.
I can vouch for the fact I have seen many positive bolts in the past, with that kind of thunder. In fact there was a positive bolt in July 09, storm was miles away but this huge flash occurred, and the bomb like thunder was incredible
bluebolt86 2 years ago
sound of siren at the end?
GigaPikachu9 2 years ago
0`02-0`10 is 8second ~ 2640 meters
GigaPikachu9 2 years ago
I like it ... Positive lighting ... WOW sound ... OMG ... recorded audio is poor for sound , You must heart sound in nature . First time When I heard this sound I was scared to death ~ During Thunderstorm I opened Window xD Nice sound / WAVE
GigaPikachu9 2 years ago
!!!WOW!!! very nice sound 5*****
GermanFireFighter95 2 years ago
that's weird how it makes the cracking sound...the rumbling is what you mostly hear. It sounds like a garbage truck falling from the empire state building and hitting the ground.
ColBuzby 2 years ago
Holy lightning bolts, Batman! That was loud! Good filming!
DrDiddle 2 years ago
Holy thunder!
JonnyProductions 2 years ago
well, the closer a lightning strike the more it sounds like a crack. But this one seemed more powerful but nonetheless can't say myself it was positive or not.
poopsyproductions 2 years ago
well no-one can really, unless you were measuring it. The thunder seemed to last for 20-30 seconds suggesting the shear radial area of the lightning, and coupled with the explosiveness suggests upper-cloud origins, hence +ve. But yeah, you're right, it may not have been. -ve C-C tends to be really weak and crackley, despite the distance away.
ravenstormcouk 2 years ago
Awesome power. I love storms:-D
lavalizard3 2 years ago 2
me 2 i've been waiting for one to come to my house for weeks but haven't had one raindrop :(
GuitarHero2131 2 years ago
That is so cool.
SevereTstormFan 2 years ago
amazing audio!
AeroStorm911 3 years ago
whoa, it sounds like an car accident
QwAdr0x256 3 years ago
Thunder signature is typical of a multi-stroke NEGATIVE CG discharge originating from a mid-level negative charge centre most likely given the timings. Quite short in spatial length-about 6 miles long minimum, main channel just over 1 mile away. Typical sound of a relatively high current discharge of many tens of kA (likely over 100 kA), but it's difficult to say what the current rise time is which is more important. Rare, but not that high on the global thunder-loudness scale believe it or not.
JohnnyL8 3 years ago
Tell me if you think this one might be a positive flash:
/watch?v=l9t3v9qB1wk
randommagnum 3 years ago
Never heard of anything like this before. those "explotions" are really cool.
Pachequistica 3 years ago
I filmed one a month ago, but i was inside so it sounds not as good as your video
masterblaster1978 3 years ago
awesome man
NarleyDude07 3 years ago
That is one angry storm!! It sounds like a succession of bombs going off!!
chargrilledcharlie 3 years ago
wow -- that thunder was unbelievable!
loudinkpink 3 years ago
That was some immense lightning, I only live a stone throw away down in Stockport.
Mattbaugh 3 years ago
Sweet!
terrijane61 3 years ago
Been in a building (windows open) that was struck by lightning and believe the bang was louder then that. When i say bang that is what i mean, it was many year ago when i was at school and the whole class thought a bomb had gone off - that was until the teacher explained it was lightning.
The explosion set of car alarms and the vibrations were felt even in the 1st floor class room.
silentian85 3 years ago
Hi Mark,
Awesome, light sound, powerful, thank you for sharing this, love it.
CHDAVISNZ 3 years ago
i've also heard many, and powerfull CC's, but never one that sounded like that. but remember... if this was a real CC... the the lightning has (like any other strikes) travel through the whole channel.. then the beginning thunder should also be sounding loud right?
Onweergek 4 years ago
i find it also very suspicious that... the first bolt is very bright.. the following (when we can see the piece of CC) is les bright.. it may be a positive cloud ground with some CC connection, wich CG+ often has. however... I'm in Oklahoma, but I have seen and heard positive strikes, but i've never heard one sounding like this. anyway.. nice catch, but I'm not sure if there is a ground connection or not... i think there is though..
Onweergek 4 years ago
That was seriously loud. It's that metallic sound that is seriously good! Great you've caught it on film man! Is that a car alarm you can hear after?
JVCULATR 4 years ago
several car alarms
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
Wow! Don't know what was scarier, the results or the initial "strike" causing the pop in your audio!m-
GoatBarn 4 years ago
probably a positive lightining bolting, yesterday I saw a documentary about it ;)
dyunak 4 years ago
lightning bolts come in different kinds of intensity, I've seen lightning bolts that were really close (less than a second away) and didn't sound so huge relative to the distance that they were at, this must've been a big one.
detroitballer86 4 years ago
thats nothing last night a bolt twice as wide as that came within like half a mile of me. it was intense. I was literally in the center of a lightening storm.
WishMaster101 4 years ago
what the fuck were you doing in the middle of a T-storm.
Ironmaidenrock4eva 3 years ago
Thinking about the nature of a positive flash, and hearing that sound gave me the chills! Now, can you imagine having one hit within, say, 500 feet? That'd be a little more than I'd want, thank you.
syncplay 4 years ago
Jeez that was a big electrical field!
I've seen lightning produce thunder that was EXTREMELY loud, but not positive-flash. I live in Florida so that kind of stuff is not to unusual :D
MediaNexus 4 years ago
Damn!, after all that time it still sounded like a bomb, it could've been a positive. We get those sometimes here in michigan they're rare and they happen after lightning stopped flashing for a while at the end of the storm and all of sudden you see a big flash and takes a while to hear it but it's really deep and loud that's probably how you can tell if it's a positive.
detroitballer86 4 years ago
It was probably a positive bolt, b/c it was pink. Normal strikes are negative and have a bluish glow. Positive bolts are 10 times more powerful and have louder thunder.
BryanBeatsYouAll 4 years ago
Yeah it did have Upper-anvil origins (usually where the Positive lightning originates) because of the duration of the thunder. It's only pink because thats how my old video camera sees lightning in the dark (it was actually blue when I saw it).
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
hmmmm...
BryanBeatsYouAll 4 years ago
the colour of the lightning streak is dependant on the context of the atmosphere it's travelling through. The blue glow is the natural spectrum of colour from our Nitrogren/Oxygen mix. Colour of Lightning from a far distance can be "filtered" by other things such as dust, dry/moist air, and precipitation. Visible light (from a lightning) passing through hail bands is thought to give it a greeny colour (similar to how hail-laden T-clouds cause "greenage").
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
This is insane. What a wicked planet we live on...
sunniebg 4 years ago
lightning gives off the same energy as about 300,000 tons of TNT
whites90 4 years ago
That thunder was kinda loud... but seriously, you HAVE to check this strike out...it's from a storm that happened where I live just this past week, and it had lightning unlike I've ever seen before, and loud explosive thunder... /watch?v=a-h3eY9GF30
KrystalFrizz 4 years ago
thats a pretty hairy vid! Thats loud & explosive because it was litterally down the road lol (and C-Gs are generally explosive up close)
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
Holy crap. Great bang. I'd like to call it sonic thunder when it sounds like this. Great vid.
masterblaster1978 4 years ago
so loud but not a very close lightning strike right
rusty2552 4 years ago
yeah! imagine how loud it wud have been if it were closer!
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
it sounds so fuckin loud, and btw i think these are the sirens.
Accavarium 4 years ago
they were indeed car alarms on my street (on the other side of the house) going off!
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
I think it is funny when you get the extremely loud thunder that sounds like an explosion then it sets off car alarms.
Haeinscute 4 years ago
There is almost a sonic boom type explosion to this clip, because there is a whislte-like sound to the initial shock waves.
MAN I wish I had been there to hear that, I've been smiling right round to the back of my head with that one :D
Top rating always :D
WillieDines1 4 years ago
fucks almighty. Now thats a nice collection of thunder clapping action. Ive only been in one storm that i could remember here in Ohio with over charged C to C strikes. The thunder sounded alot like a few loaded TU-154s or 727s on take off. a very deep and house rattling rumble.
6V92TA 4 years ago
it sounds strange but cool :D
mauwi101 4 years ago
Whenever I've seen lightning strike really close by, sometimes leading up to the thunder itself, there is a hissing sound that sounds almost like a fuse being set for a stick of dynamite...is there a reason for this? Just figured I'd ask xD
WickedWings07 4 years ago
might be the sound of the branches from the leader channel reaching your ears first (weaker faint strands that only last for a fraction of a second that come off the main bolt).
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
The thunder is loud
boomaticaboom 4 years ago
the thunder noise in mass.(which were i lived)is usually few seconds long,but how long is this one?
mestamestaman 5 years ago
long! 30 seconds from initial bang to the finish of distant rumble - about 6 miles worth of lightning channel (suggesting upper-anvil origins).
ravenstormcouk 5 years ago
So, the longer is the thunder from where you are, the louder it get, or bigger the thunder the louder it gets(??????)
Which one? Please answer back...
mestamestaman 4 years ago
Eh? The longer the thunder the longer the lightning channel is. The closer the lightning is or the higher the power of a lightning, the louder the thunder.
ravenstormcouk 4 years ago
Neither it's the closer the louder the bigger the louder. Combinations of both produce stuff like in this video
whites90 4 years ago
The closer the lighting is, the louder it is.
mestamestaman 4 years ago
The closer the lightning, the shorter time between the flash and the thunder blast.
The longer the rumble after, the taller (or longer) the lightning bolt itself.
Thunder also gets louder as lightning gets closer, but if you have one that's far away but it's still way loud, then it's BIG power.
syncplay 4 years ago
well i never knew that,thanks
pinkorange12 4 years ago
wow that thunder was wow i have never heard such a sound
i would probably shit my self if i ever heard that great clip
carbf1942 5 years ago
Wat it was a good clip anyway yup yup.
200twistatwista 5 years ago
Damn! That had someone's roof(?) shaking like crazy. :)
blinkingblythe 5 years ago
Sweet video. Nasty thunder. What was the humming noise afterward.
haroldtampa 5 years ago
car alarms all down my street (behind the camera on other side of the house).
ravenstormcouk 5 years ago
I heard a faint buzz right when the bolt hit, so there must';ve been a very good sized e-field in the area.
plateshutoverlock 5 years ago
yeah a good pop noise on the audio track
ravenstormcouk 5 years ago
Am I right in saying that as it produced more of a sudden bang than a thunderous roll, it was a fairly short length spark? I love the high frequency component of that first blast. Sounds like it made someone's roof shake!
potkettle 5 years ago
no the length of the lightning channel is generally determined by the length of the thunder (typically), in which case this was VERY long and must have had upper-level origins. (5 seconds = 1 mile, so this was at least 5-6 miles long)
ravenstormcouk 5 years ago
Thanks. So even though I was wrong in this case, the general principle is correct.
Can you explain the abbreviations I-C and P-F that you use in the description?
potkettle 5 years ago
Intra-Cloud (Sheet) and P-F (Positive Flash). A P-F is a C-G only 5 times the length and coming from the top of the cloud rather than through it's base. :)
ravenstormcouk 5 years ago
and about 5 times as much energy than a negative
whites90 4 years ago