Are We the Baddies

[AlexanderMaccabee]

You are the baddie for posting this. You saw that on September 19, 2006, that someone posted a high resolution version of this video on Youtube. Then you decided against all reason to post an extremely low quality version of the same video on October 14, 2006. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[bluegreen1138]

wikileaks =

[esotericfilms]

this is from that mitchell and webb look. VERY FUNNY SHOW!

[Nescca]

They should make a Hitler-Netanyahu one. Would make more sense.

[QePproductions]

a rat's anus!

[TheBushman2]

There are no completely good or bad guys. It's a matter of degree. Every group, country, and people has abused other groups, countries, and peoples, to one degree or another. No one is entirely innocent, and as the prince said at the end of Romeo and Juliet; "All are punished!"

[syggelekokle]

Jemand, der deutsch spricht, kann kein schlechter Mensch sein :D

[modifiedcontent]

This has nothing to do with the war in Iraq - which anyway was a war for democracy against a fascist dictator.

If you want to get a sense of their position on the "war on terror", watch this:

watch?v=FCC9pzKiJ5A

[Magni56]

The irony, of course, is that getting rid of Saddam the US way caused more harm and grief than Saddam himself did during his entire careeer.

And frankly, if you really believe that it had anything to do with democracy or the war on terror, you're naive.

[modifiedcontent]

@Magni56, under Saddam at least the trains ran on time and there was stability and peace, right?

You are fascist scum, Magni56.

[Magni56]

No, just less people sufferred and died. That's not an endorsement of Saddam, that's the best yardstick of just how badly the US fucked up the entire thing from beginning to end. And this, kids, is why going to war over ideology and bleeding heart sentiments is not a good idea.

[modifiedcontent]

@Magni56, most of the suffering is caused by your islamic fascist buddies, not the Americans. The Americans are working with the freely elected Iraqi government to bring peace and stability.

[Magni56]

My buddies? Thanks for the useless ad hominem, fucktard. Also, go buy a dictionary and learn the definition of the term 'fascism'. Hint: Islamic fascism is a completely nonsensical term only serioulsy used by illiterate morons. Matter of fact, Iraq has become a compelte shithole thanks to the US completely dropping the ball and having funny delusions that the entire country would embrace democracy over night after you bombed their entire infrastructure to the ground.

[Magni56]

Also, your vaunted 'islamic fascism' is not responsible for all the problems. Due to the failure of the US, Iraq descended into a free-for-all civil war between differrent religious subsets of Islam, other sects and political and ethnical groups, al Quaeda only being one of them. Saddam was the only thing keeping the thing from exploding. The US went in, took him out and then assumed that the building wouldn't crash down if nobody did jack shit. Cue a still ongoing shitstorm.

[guyanakoolaid]

How difficult is it to identify the creators of this video, especially since somebody's taken the time to splash their banner across it. It's "That Mitchell And Webb Look" on BBC - these guys are also responsible for one the funniest sitcoms of all time, available on YouTube: "Peep Show" (each season has only six episodes)

[kon23uk]

Briliant and insightful sketch, but depressing and narcissistic comments. How about everyone asking themselves if *they* are "the baddies" when they are demonising others. The worst atrocities always seem to be done by those who claim that they are defending themselves against prior/imminent aggression...

[falstaffswims]

kon23uk: precisely! I want to ask this question all the time now of people (who are too easily convinced to rally behind a war): would you know it if we were the baddies? Of course, there were in fact Germans who stood up to the Nazis-- and were called unpatriotic, and even, by some contorted fascistic thinking, called "cowards" for being brave enough to question the Nazis. Oh-- they were also called "Commies" (partly because real German communists were among the Nazi's most courageous enemies)

[modifiedcontent]

@falstaffswims, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were allies until Germany invaded Russia. Nazism and communism are two faces of the same monster.

Magni56, kon23uk and falstaffswims, have you really ever asked yourself if you could be the baddies? Not you as "evil westerner", but you personally? Or do you just really enjoy preaching down to the rest of us from your position of imagined moral superiority?

[Magni56]

What use is moral superiority? I don't have any for it. Cold, hard facts are more important than such sentiments. The Iraqis under Saddam sufferred less than they did in the absolute chaos stemming from the US dropping the ball with their invasion. That's a fact. Trying to bring "good" or "evil" into it is meaningless. There is no black and white IRL, only differrent shades of grey.

[AFIHUKI]

jajajajaja,very funny

hello from spain!!!!!!!!

[Tuvoc310]

That was funny!! LOL

[gregie156]

JFC! it's not political! its just über funny!

[WateryFowl]

Bas, thanks for posting this. Very funny. (Almost as funny as some of the knee-jerk anti-American commments it has elicited).

[LordDreskar]

because it isn't

[basophil]

If it's a truism, then why did you mention it? ;)

[Xian1642]

It's a comedy sketch from the UK, mocking the Nazis from WW2 - nothing to do with the war in Iraq!

[aura1125]

Educated people are capable of making connections betweeen ideas that are similar. Duh: Hitler = Bush to mention the glaringly obvious. Also comedy is generally a forum for political thought and opinion.

[CptJenkins]

doesn't stop you from sounding very dull though does it?

[basophil]

The Bush=Hitler analogy is hardly educated. It's just base moral relativism and sloganeering which actually requires very little thought. The fact that you cannot distinguish between the US military and Nazi German forces is the same as if you were talking about cheese and saying American is the same as Brie. Or on cars, you must think a hyundai is the same a ferrari. Man, and I thought lefties were supposed to be the smart ones!

[falstaffswims]

@basophil @basophil I totally agree that reasoning by historical analogy is really, really stupid--but this is precisely what the Bush administration did--referencing really sophomoric, almost remedial, hackneyed "history," comparing anybody who disagreed with his (GWB's) war of aggression to Clement Atlee, and the assorted appeasers of the late 1930's. AND MOUTHBREATHING IDIOT AMERICANS, MY OWN (I was sad and ashamed to discover) COUNTRYMEN ATE THAT SHIT UP.

[falstaffswims]

@basophil Every undereducated middle-class American man with Good-Will-Hunting Syndrome (most American men are convinced that they're smarter than the smart people, and merely unrecognized for their "genius") went around spouting the same tired, cliched, and poorly-thought-out shit to ratify the reasons for an unreasonable war--

[falstaffswims]

--SO many times, I was told "history proves we have to stand up to dictators"... comfortably oblivious, they were, that HITLER (yes, HITLER!) used THE SAME REASONING to persuade the idiot German masses that the UK, US, USSR were "out to get them," were "envious of (their) Freedom." Idiots and strongmen LOVE the word freedom.

[austin123aw]

@falstaffswims The Germans were not stupid, you dumb jackass, they were far from it, they were the most technologically superior and advanced poeple of their time, their technology is even slightly competetive of taday's... I don't think that sounds very idiotic.

[AlexanderMaccabee]

@austin123aw Turns out their grammar wasn't so competitive.

[falstaffswims]

In short: the Bush-Hitler comparison's not NEARLY so far off as you think! (Only GWB sucked at being evil, like he sucked at every job he was handed to in his f---ed-up life... he MERCIFULLY sucked at mimicking Hitler... thank god he was a failure.)

[boseal2009]

@falstaffswims bush wasn't as big of an idiot you think. it was just a persona.

[xTunafishx]

so the u.s army is fighting underneath the banner of skulls now? This sketch is depicting the common representation of the Nazis not current politics- no offence to M+W, but they arent the type 2 get deep and political.

[aura1125]

Are these American soldiers in Iraq?

[Fukusensei]

Oh Lordy, their German SS officers ¬_¬

Do these really look like American soldiers to you?

[aura1125]

I know they are German SS officers, I am being sarcastic, and it seems to fit.

[ajaxjs]

Only if you're an idiot, sadly.

[himse1f]

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[aura1125]

I guess I am an idiot for feeling empathy for soldiers that are for the most part good people stuck in an war that shouldn't have been started where we are the baddies. Abu Ghraib anyone? The young woman raped by servicemen who then killed her family?

[Henrithegod]

Oh my god, its comedy! Stop killing the vibe

[Jakkake]

You are an idiot for not appreciating comedy and realising this is nothing to do with our current bloody war, but a sketch written about WW2. So yes, you are a fucking idiot.

[ddgallion]

Are we the baddies? Hilarious!

[willyrobinson]

Pirate's are fun!

[cheeselover0079]

hmm, my dad showed this to me, it funny!!