Booker T. Washington - The Atlanta Compromise Speech (1904)

[phavefunpartyin]

i love booker t washington im a doing a report on him now

[Protactinium0]

3 ppl are racist

[RickyJ108]

Three people want to cast down their bucket where they aren't.

[xBubbliex3]

@RickyJ108 The three people that cast down their buckets missed.

[Kvalentiification]

AMAZING!! Learning about him right now. Wonderful man, but I am W.E.B supporter

[kontalaetootet]

One of my hero ever.

[Sistarovat]

This is awsome. Booker T. Washington was one of the greatest American blacks that ever lived.

[ZeroXcuses]

Holy SMOKES!!! I graduated from Tuskegee and I didn't even know this existed!!!! Thank God for technology!

[heavyaguina]

why was it cut short??

[tellmeimlovedagain13]

Amazing speech it's amazing how he was born into slavery and became a lawyer

[11theprophet]

u talk to much

[takfam07]

The secret to African American advancement lies in the philosophies and precepts of Booker T. He had it right from day one. But blacks didn't want to listen and follow. Same thing today, calling the Steeles, Sowells and Connerlys "Uncle Toms." But Booker is a true black hero, outlining the sure path to socioeconomic equality, real power, self-determination, and genuine pride. Actually, Asian Americans exemplify the Booker T. philosophy. To them, he's just common sense. And it works.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Who said Booker spent his money well? Who says Steele, Sowell, and Connerly spend their money well? If any one was morally bankrupt and materialistic back then it was Booker and the majority of the white population. White peole slaughtered and murdered blacks just so they could get their "bling" as you call it. All Booker cared about is Money(bling). He openly admits he could care less if blacks got murdered or treated injust he only cared about money(bling).

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani Booker died wealthy, donated a lot of his personal funds to the black cause of education and self-help. And remember, African chiefs sold their own people by the MILLIONS to Arab slavers. Blacks murder far more blacks then and now than whites would ever care to. Blacks ruthlessly slaughter each other for "bling" and always have. Booker was singularly brilliant and cared about his people, but sadly, he overestimated blacks Too many of them think like you. That's tragic.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 What do stats today have to do with blacks back then? how do you know blacks back then kkilled each other more than white ever could? And why are you racist to blacks? why do people insist on seeing all blacks as the same and think we all should automatically get along? There are whites who have killed others with white skin. There are asian who have killed others who are asians. are people justified to slaughter those groups as well?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani In the US, blacks have killed more blacks in the last 30 years than whites did during the entire post-slavery period. And people see blacks the same because black attitudes, thinking and behaviors keep them at the socioeconomic bottom. Therefore, wrong-thinking comes to define the race. Maybe not fair for the 3% who think right, but those should be advocating right thinking to their ignorant brethren in the first place (but they rarely do, for fear of being called 'Uncle Tom').

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 So what if booker died wealthy? Here you are criticizing people for valuing "bling" over susbstance. Yet you tell me Booker died wealthy as if wealth is the sole determiner of who some 1 is. MLK didnt die wealthy he was assasinated yet his courage changed the MORALITY of a society for generations to come. He wasnt out fo himself or his own selfish materialistic gain he was out for JUSTICE.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 What do you mean blacks ruthlessly slaugter each other? Im black and I have nor have I ever seen another black slaughter another. And Im educated so what is wrong with the way I think?

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 And why do you insist on dodging the question I have asked more than once? WHAT DID WHITES DO TO PROVE THEY KNEW HOW TO HANDLE FREEDOM? Why do you insist on changing the subject? Why is that question so hard to answer?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani I've already answered the question many times. Typically, you refuse to hear the answer. Again-- whites CREATED freedom. They created democracy and representative self-government. And yes, they slaughtered each other-- so YOU could be free. They were the first people to free slaves--on moral principle. That's how they handled freedom. Does that answer your question? Or are you going to ignore my answer and ask again?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani According to 2009 data taken from the Washington-based Economic Policy Institute, the median net worth of white households was $97,860. In contrast, the median net worth for black households was--unbelievably--$2,170. (No zeros missing!). This is EXACTLY what Booker was addressing. This is how blacks handle freedom--by NOT investing in private property, business and security. Instead, blacks primarily rely on gov't support, just like Booker said--over 100 years ago.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 If anything whites were the first to enslave people on the basis of race. Slavery had been thru history for many reasons . Whites were the first ones to decide it should be determined on the basis of race.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani you're right, I agree with you. See my previous post. Every himan race o0n earth had slaves, and were slaves. All of us. But by the 1500s, black chattel slavery soon became THE slave industry. Not the least because black Africans themselves were hugely complicit in this trade. And the only way Christian Europeans could reconcile the notion of enslaving another person (which contradicted equality in the eyes of God) was to dehumanize blacks. And this they did for 500 years.

[rashadkijani]

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice" -MLK Birmingham letter

[rashadkijani]

(CONT) "The Negro has not gained a single right in America without persistent pressure and agitation. However lamentable it may seem, the Negro is now convinced that white America will never admit him to equal rights unless it is coerced into doing it" -MLK opinion of racism and white backlash in america

[rashadkijani]

"Two things are clear to me, and I hope they are clear to white liberals. One is that the Negro cannot achieve emancipation through violent rebellion. The other is that the Negro cannot achieve emancipation by passively waiting for the white race VOLUNTARILY to grant it to him." (CONT)

[rashadkijani]

"If peace means accepting second class citizenship, then I don’t want it. If peace means keeping my mouth shut in the midst of evil and injustice, then I don’t want it. If peace means being complacent and accepting the status quo, then I don’t want it. If peace means being passive, then I don’t want it. If peace means a willingness to be exploited and humiliated, then that’s the kind of peace that I don’t want" -MLK Louisiville speech 1956

[smoothcollected]

first of all you should never fix your mouth to ever call a black man of leadership in those days a coward. You have NO freaking clue to what being a black man in those days were about. I know MLK wasnt a coward but accepting Getting your head bust didnt exactly make you look like Malcolm X.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected People like Frederick Douglas spoke out against the injustices of slavery during that time. And frederick douglas grew up rougher than booker. And how did Booker know that all blacks had a slave mentality? What did booker call a slave mentality? And to me if anypone had a slave mentality it was booker. He was so content to live with white people still making the decisions for blacks. If anything he was teaching blacks to continue their slavery.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected What I think is cruel is Booker accussing any body black back then of having a victim mentaliyt.Blacks who had the courage to speajk out. Booker would try tpo silence the by calling them cry babies who were making false accussations of racism. Now had could any black be accussed of false accusations of racism back in that time. Yet Booker had the nerve to call other blacks crybabies just becuz some blacks back then didnt like being mistreated.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani the fact of the matter is blacks did have something to change and that was a slave mentality. HENCE the book UP FROM SLAVERY. You obviously have a lot to read up on if thouGht booker T. was an uncle tom. I have nothing but love for all black leaders. Although of them had diff. philosphies the fact is that it took a lot of courage for any black to show any intelligence or make an attempt to uplift blackmen and woman

[rashadkijani]

MLK disagreed with Booker T . MLK wasnt a coward..Booker believed in being silent about the racial injustices happeneing to blacks MLK did not. MLK found that to be morally banrupt and cowardly.

[LordTariq83]

booker t washington was nuttin but an uncle tom

[smoothcollected]

@LordTariq83 you obviously havent any knowledge of the man you speak of.

[LordTariq83]

@smoothcollected i have much knowledge of the man and thats why i made the comment i did.i read his autobiography "up from slavery" and studied him in depth.thats why i made the comment cuz i truly feel he was an Uncle Tom

[smoothcollected]

@smoothcollected first of all thats really disrespectful and honestly really stupid to say. what uncle tom as you and i know it to be will start and devote his life to a freaking institution that caters only to blacks and their economic dependance. You have no clue to the pressure this man was under to try something if not anything to Get through to those hardcore southern racist. W.e.b Dubois didnt have that type of pressure in boston.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected WeB diubois had to deal with the same racism as Booker t or any other black duiring that time. What makes you think Booker t challenges with racism in america was any different than any other black person in america? How can you believe there was racism but talk as if only a few blacks had to deal with racism in america during that time?

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani first of all everyone knows that racism was terribly different in the north than the south. One of the reasons w.e.b dubois couldnt continue teaching at tuskegee, Just in case you dont believe that it was for a semester in the fall of 1895. Booker did what he could around a bunch of redneck lynchers who often rode through the campus of T.U

[smoothcollected]

@smoothcollected Step in b.t wash shoes for a second and youll realize that he was dealing with young blacks during reconstruction and was trying to developed daily living skills. and basically not need the white man hummmmm sounds a lil like malcolm x but i guess youll call him an uncle tom too. If you truly read the book youll realize he was basically trying to Get blacks to realize their priorities. in the book he reflected on how ignorant ass black parents would write him bitching

[kcballintyp]

Planned Parenthood has everything to do with racism. They lie and mislead these women about fetal development. Furthermore, PP Clinics are in minority neighborhoods They promote homosexuality and birth control because they know these are proven ways to stop black people from reproduction.

[GATJR3]

is this actually his voice?

[AcePilot101]

Booker T. Washington focused on education for black people.

The Tuskagee Institute trained a generation of young black people

in the deep South. Washington Carver taught there - and the Tuskagee

airmen (World War Two) are a testimony to the great potential of black Americans.

He is truly one of the great Americans.

[metro121000]

Thank you for posting this speech. This is the first time that

I have heard his voice.

[damonskates]

the atlanta compromise is exactly that...

[MsRollinlikeabigshot]

black history month will never end until our people understand where we came from... :)

[MsRollinlikeabigshot]

i ♥ his voice! anyway this is very historical for the african americans in america today. they walk around with their pants on their ankles.di\rinking.doin drugs. they dont understand where our people came from. and what they did to bring us where we are today. we need more "booker t. washingtons" around here. he was named one of the most powerful african american leaders.and we need some more of those titles given to our black men AND women around here today.and who's the dummy who disliked?!?

[glong86]

@MsRollinlikeabigshot Yeah and Booker T. Washington was also the same man that said that blacks should forget about pursuing civil and political rights and discouraged blacks from challenging violent white supremacy. You still want more of guys like him around?

[Graffight]

@glong86 are you talking about when he said "The wisest among my race understand that the agitation of questions of social equality is the extremest folly, and that progress in the enjoyment of all the privileges that will come to us must be the result of severe and constant struggle rather than of artificial forcing."? because that is an extremely wise position, and probably should have been the rout taken.

[glong86]

@Graffight No here's the thing. He advocated that blacks should focus on economics and ignore political and social equality but it was the very absence of equal protection under the law that impeded any type of economic progress.

[Graffight]

@glong86 - Though i do agree that equal protection under the law is important, i'm not sure that social equality is. Nor am i convinced that changing the law did anything to fix the social problems. I think the social acceptance we see between races is just a product of time healing. But again i do agree it should have been a priority to keep people from killing blacks all willie nillie.

[glong86]

@Graffight You are right about social equality there's not a whole lot we can do about that because you can't pass a law forcing people to view other people positively. That comes down to the individual and if he/she changes how they view another race.

[rashadkijani]

@Graffight Why do you make a distinctinction between social equality and equal protection under the Law. To me they are the same thing.

[rashadkijani]

@Graffight What was so wise about that position? Blacks never got anywhere until they did just what Booker believed they shouldnt do. What do you think MLK and the civil rights movement was doing. They constantly questioned and demanded for equal rights and it wasnt until blacks started standing up for themselves until there was any real progress made.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani and everything had its progress. what he and web dubois did was scratch the surface and force the white man to side with either one of them. if blacks really wanted to do something they would have left like marcus Garvey suggested but niggas wont do right because the brotha's and sistas who were depicted in that movie amistad returned to africa only to what make the locals slaves lol talk about irony

[rashadkijani]

@Graffight I bet t if Booker T was alive during the civil rights movement he would have hated MLK and would have accussed MLK of having a victim mentality. He would have also accused him of being a angry blackman with a chip on his shoulder. He would have been angry at Rosa for standing up for herself. He would have suggested she should have quietly gave up her seat to the white person and walked to the back of the bus.I would bet Booker would have been the civil rights number 1 critic.

[Graffight]

@rashadkijani - I'm sorry, but the civil right's movement didn't accomplish what it was supposed to have. It didn't end racism it just made it look different. Instead of killing black people openly, we get Planned Parenthood...THEN we get tricked into thinking it's good for society. Look, I'm not knocking the civil right's movement, but if you really think we live in an equal society you're fooling yourself. Black people are the only race in America who are in decline. So much for equality.

[rashadkijani]

@Graffight What does planned parenthood have to do with the civil rights movement. And the civl rights movement did at least get blacks rights better protected. And it furhter increased awareness of a problem that was usually ignored. And the civil rights movement wasnt intended technically end racism. No movement could completely eradicate racism anymore than murder or any other crime. And I in no way am suggesting that racism and equality have been accomplished.

[rashadkijani]

@Graffight In that last sentence of previous comment . I meant end of racism.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani thats bullshit and you obviously hadnt read any of his books. because the issues he had with blacks in then are still issues today. money manaGement, living beyond means and beinG concern with the thinGs that can make you totally independent of whites hence asians in american life

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Booker t did not teach blacks indepedence of whites. He taught black to be dependent on whites. He flat out said blacks should not fight back and should be accepting of whites injustice until white people felt read y to quit being injust. Booker T was truly a morally bankrupt person. He did not believe in JUSTICE. I dont care if some blacks werent spending their money the way he wanted them to. It was morally wrong and against God for the way whites treated blacks.

[smoothcollected]

what your saying is disrespectful Go read up from slavery and youll know that he simply was trying to Get blacks to understand what battles to take on first. He was saying that anyone who excell at agriculture and handle their home and learn trades relevant to life in those days would be in a more powerful position. which is true today he knew that crackers were Going to be crackers any way so why not try to empower yourself and stop worrying about the inevitable actions of iGnorant whites.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected "which is true today he knew that crackers were Going to be crackers any way so why not try to empower yourself and stop worrying about the inevitable actions of iGnorant whites"

What do you mean crackers were going to be crackers? White people literally were lynching blacks. How do you overcome being lynched with just hard wrok? How does having a job overcome being lynched and being mistreated injustly?

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani and how is teaching black women how to maintain the home and showing men how to be agriculture literate isnt independence of that time

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Blacks when there were slaves were in agriculture. So why did Booker think he needed to teach blacks a skill which most already knew anyways? Why do you think blacks needed to be taught how to take care of their children and homes. What do you think slavery was? wasnt slavery working ou in the fields and make sure the crops grew and picking whatebver got grown on the plantataion.And most black slaves not only raised their children but the white slave owners children too.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani if i had to be critical of him at all i would probably say he sounded passive. but even then this was a strategy to tread softly to continue to have his school funded. which obviously paid considering T.U is one of the country's best universities

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Did booker also teach we dubois how to bathe? How many blacks did booker teach how to bathe in history? And are any of these blacks famous in history like Booker?

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected "If you truly read the book youll realize he was basically trying to Get blacks to realize their priorities."

When you are an oppressed group being murdered and and having the injustices done to blacks like whites were doing . That is number 1 and only priority until it is solved. And to think anything like bathing or even learning a trait is more important than that is morally bankrupt and ignorant.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani like i said violence against blacks hasnt gone anywhere Just done with more ingenuity. And Guess what people will still suggest the best thing a brotha can do is Go get an education of some sort (not ruling out trade school either). meaning that at the end of the day blacks will still be behind if Everyone is out picketing and BEGGING for a place at the white man table. instead of creating your own and having the whte man insist that you come to his table.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected What do you think Booker did? You implied your self that he treaded sofly and ignored the injustice of racism becuz he was afraid he would lose suport from whites ? So you yourself were admitting he spent alot of time begging white people.

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani botttom line is I Grad from T.U and wouldnt be feeling the pride i do about my university being one of the only few black schools holding its own in the country if it wasnt for people like BTW doing and teaching what he did

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected What does booker t have to do with you being educated today? So what if there is a school named after him? Are you saying blacks who graduate from other schools today dont really count as graduated?

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani wow are you serious. first of all the school isnt named after him. secondly if you had gone to tuskegee and know the history you'd know the effort and sacrifice he made that helped make TUSKEGEE u. what it is today

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Yes I know TU isnt named after him named after him. Obviously TU doesnt stand for Booker T Washington. It means Tuskege University. That wasnt the point I was making. That was bad wording on my part but I think you are being obtuse why did you ignore the other questions? And if you think blacks arent going to get ahead always begging whites then why do you admire booker?

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected To further illustrate how contradictory Booker was Ill use his own words. He practically admits he is wrong or naive. This is from his writngs in up from slavery.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected "The slave system on our place, in a large measure, took the spirit of self-reliance and self-help out of the white people. My old master had many boys and girls, but not one, so far as I know, ever mastered a single trade or special line of productive industry. The girls were not taught to cook, sew, or to take care of the house. All of this was left to the slaves. " He basically said what I said ealier about slve life.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected So why did booker think he needed to teach blacks something he admitted blacks knew how to better than their white masters? He admitted that it was whites who werent se;f reliant not blacks . So why was he always yelling at blacks to be more self reliant instead of whites? Why did he always approach things like it was blacks with some character defiency instead of approaching whites that way?

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Black slaves did all the cooking and cleaning for white slave owners. Why do you talk like blacks were somehow different than any other ethnic group and didnt know ho to do basic things that any race of people knows how to do to insure the survival of their race?

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani thats the point you couldnt. So why be inorant in the process. No black leader has ever stop the murder of blacks. by non blacks. Hell brothas still Getting shot by cops modern lynching, So do i tell brothas not to attend college or worry only about cops shooting us

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani so i suppose when he mentions in his book about blacks who came to his school (COLLEGE STUDENTS) learning to bathe daily and basic cleansing of the body was a lie by him

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected I dont know about bathing you said agriculture. But are you saying blacks never bathed in history until Booker T Washington came along? And who taught Booker how to bathe did he say how he learned?

[smoothcollected]

@rashadkijani like i SAID young college students in the south during the reconstruction era. dubois was in an entirely different atmosphere. was even schooled with whites.

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected Like I said Booker T was not for justice. You are admitting that booker T had no morals and character . Why did he ignore murder and injust oppresssion like they dont mean anything? While thinking something like bathing was somehow the number 1 issue in the black community ? He viewed blacks the same way the white supremacist did.

[smoothcollected]

@smoothcollected it wasnt that blacks were lacking the ABILITY. It was a simple case of blacks not handling freedom and independence the right way and the work ethic prior to reconstruction was fading away and the young blacks at that particular time were the victims of it. Thus the creation of the University

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected What do you mean blacks werent handling freedom the right way? What is the proper way to handle freedom? And what way were whites handling there freedom? Who was Booker to decide how blacks should handle freedom? And are you suggesting that blacks be enslaved again just so they can prove they have a work good ethic? And what had whites done to prove they had a good work ethic? What is so intelligent about those 2 blacks you mentioned compared to other blacks?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani I'm reading "Up From Slavery" right now. Booker carefully describes the cultural values the majority of blacks held during Reconstruction: the compulsion of "bling" over substance, spending beyond their means and going into debt. Looking to Fed'l Gov't for all their needs. He rightly observes that people who were slaves for over 200 years, and "in the darkness of heathenism" before that, had to be taught how to live frugally, how to prioritize, how to manage freedom.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Why wont you asnwer my question? What did whites do to prove they knew how to handle freedom? And how did booker determine that all or most blacks werent spending their money well? And so what if blacks didnt spend their money well? That is their personal business not booker's. Why does a group of people deseved to be slaugtered and enslaved becuz some of them dont spend their money well?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani Whites created the concept of freedom--and the modern industrialized, technological world as we know and live it--including you. They established the concepts of democracy and liberty, and were the first race to free their slaves--on moral principle. You ask, So what if blacks don't handle their money well? No wonder blacks are the poorest peoples on earth, reduced to begging and applying guilt to rich nations to prop them up. The "grasshopper and the ant" story--in real time.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 How did whites create the concept of freedom when they enslaved people? And many people fought for freedom thru out history. Frederick Douglas fough for freedom and freed himself so what do you mean whites were the first to free people on the basis of moral principle? Many black slaves freed themsleves and even went back to free others so why do whites get credit for thiings many people thru out history did regardles of their race?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani Ah, good question! Whites created the concepts of freedom. But the drafters of the Constitution--freedom fighters -- were slave owners themselves. So they reconciled this dilemma (temporarily) by appealing to Enlightenment scientific notions, which were that blacks were subhuman, degraded, closer to lower primates on the Great Chain of Being. But this never really sat well with them, esp. Jefferson, etc. So they eventually fought the Civil War and gave blacks freedom.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 What do you mean it didnt sit well with them? Obviously it set well with them to continue doing it I supposed you would believev anti-semitism really didnt sit well with hitler too then? Maybe hitler reluctantly had Jews executed so we shouldnt judge him by something he engaged in extensively? And the founding fathers didnt fight in the civil war.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani If black slavery ever sat completely well with whites, you would still be a slave today. It took 80 years, but freedom happened--first time in history. If I were black, the way I would look at it is-- I'd be grateful to my slave ancestors for enduring the saga, so I could be a free American today. And I'd also be grateful to the whites who gave their lives as well. Read Booker's autobio--there was love between the races, even during slavery. Nothing like relentless cruelty.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 " If black slavery ever sat completely well with whites, you would still be a slave today. It took 80 years, but freedom happened--first time in history"

There is a distinction between racism and slavery.White people gave their lives to keep blacks enslaved as well. There is so much wrong with everything you just said. You obviuosly dont see things from a moral point of view that reflects God or some higher power. You look at things from a Hitler "might makes right" principle.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani It's not "might makes right." It's "God helps those who help themselves." And it's whether the glass is half-empty or half-full. Too many blacks focus on the "half-empty"--like your POV, "millions of whites gave their lives to keep blacks enslaved." Of course, but why focus on that? The incredible human story is that just as many whites died to set blacks free. Why should anyone give his life for another race's freedom? But they did--that's moral high ground.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Its black who have been fighting for whites freedom. not the other way around Black people would fight in wars like world war 2 for everyones freedoms. Yet when the war was over the same whites who blacks may have taken bullets for would tell those blacks they couldnt vote but yet blacks did not try to stop their fellow white citizens from voting or drinking from certain fountains. Blacks fought in the american revolutionary war.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 But yet after the american revolutionary war the so called founding fathers declared blacks as slaves even ones that had fought in the war alongside the founding fathers. And its you who looks at things as glass half empty. You insist onj udging blacks by the ones you dont like despite the majority dont fit your racial stereotype view of us.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Why do you think the need for the civil rights movement was becuz blakcs were immoral people in your eyes. The need for the civil rights movement was becuz of the immoral white supremacist culture in this country. When did MLK protest what he saw as immorality in black people? If the main problem was blacks ? Why did MLK protest the way white americans were treating their fellow black citizens? Why not just go to other black people's houses and tell them how much he didnt like them?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani It's not about liking or not liking blacks. OK, here's my position--and it was MLK's too. It's a half-half situation. Half the problem was white racism. The other half was black cultural underdevelopment. MLK knew this. If you read his work, it wasn't all "whites are racists, they must change." It's also "blacks are culturally underdeveloped, with too many cultural malignancies that do not speak well of us as a race." Had he lived, that second half would've been his focus.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani But remember, many free blacks in America owned black slaves. This is not to say that whites didn't degrade blacks, etc. All I'm saying is, if blacks followed Booker T., they wouldn't be on the socioeconomic bottom today, with the highest crime rates, out-of-wedlock births, highest fatherless households, most welfare per capita, etc. That's all I'm saying. In other words-- it's possible for blacks to get out from the bottom, if they want to. But they must really WANT to.

[smoothcollected]

@smoothcollected and you may call it begging if you like. but while he was begging as you like to call it he actually knocked two birds out with one stone. He would have financially powerful whites to come and see the school and see how blacks were in fact Just as intelligent and capable of learning and having a distinguished place of learning. This is how you have blacks like Kenan Ivory wayans, mayor ray nagen and whole host of other who's who among blacks who were graduates of the university

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected And you were the one who said he was passive and treaded softly. That to me was yu admitting he was always begiing whites not based on right or wrong but he saw them as the power structure and ctered to it like a politician. Your arguments yoursef practically prove the points Im making about him. You even said what he did was get powerful whites to come to the school and see how intelligent blacks were. Well why did he think blacks needed to prove to whites how smart they were?

[rashadkijani]

@smoothcollected How come whites never thought they needed to prove to blacks they were smart or had a good work ethic? Why did Booker think life was all about blacks always thinking the bl;ack race needed to validate themself to whites? Why did he always think blacks needed to change something about themselves to make whites feel comfortable? How come he never thought whites neeeded to change themselves to make blakc s feel good?

[takfam07]

@smoothcollected You're exactly right. I'm reading "Up From Slavery" right now, and it's fascinating-- 100+ years later, and the issues are exactly the same. I wish more blacks thought like Booker T. If they did, they'd be a supremely successful and productive culture on all levels.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani If blacks had earnestly embraced Booker T., US history might've unfolded so that there wouldn't have been a need for an MLK or Rosa Parks. Blacks might've gained their rights anyway because of their skills, productivity and excellent citizenship. Remember, you had radical racists (KKK), you had Northern racists. But blacks also had HUGE white supporters from both regions. If blacks fought the good fight with different strategies and cultural memes--but it's all speculation.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 " Blacks might've gained their rights anyway because of their skills, productivity and excellent citizenship"

White people never got their RIGHTS from having skills they simply killed who they didnt like. And you obviously dont understand what a RIGHT is or you wouldnt be telling anyone of any color they have to earn a RIGHT. Freedom is RIGHT that every human being is born with. It comes from GOD or some higher power.It can only be taken away from you by someonelse(CONT)

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani Yes, whites slaughtered and conquered colored peoples in their quest for material resources and global supremacy. But so did all non-whites peoples in their own domains. Bantu blacks slaughtered Khoisan and pygmies. Maasai slaughtered their neighbors--I stayed in a Maasai village for a couple of weeks. Their motto is: "all cattle in the world belong to us by divine ordination. We're not stealing, we're just taking back what's rightfully ours." (cont).

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 (CONT) or system you are born in. FREEDOM cant be given to you by someone else.If FREEDOM is given to non-whites by whites then it is not a right . It is a privilege that whites morally arbitrarily give out to who they deem worthy. Who are whites to deem themselves morally superior and get to decide when non-whites get to be free? What morality did whites obtain that said they deserve to be free? And who was this power that gave whites their freedom?

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani Remember, the concept of "freedom" as you know it was created by white libertarians in Europe and America. Prior to them, freedom was simply not a moral issue. There was no U.N. pressuring America toward abolition, because slavery was the norm worldwide. Slavery had existed since the dawn of humanity, completely normal and accepted. Everyone alive today has ancestors who were slaves as well slavers. Whites enslaved blacks--business as usual. But they FREED them--a first.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Blacks were only free by legal definition after the civil war. And freedom didnt come from whites. Why do you insist on making a race the embodiment of an idea especially when. most of the race didnt even engage in what it means? Why not just give hitler credtit for the concept of "ending anti-semitism"? Ghandi and MLK did more for the concept of freedom than the hypocritcal whites who obviously spoke out both sides of their mouth. And the UN wasnt formed until after 1945.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani If black freedom in the US didn't come from whites, who did it come from? Who signed the Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment? Again, blacks should quit being bitter about the past. Do you see Asian Americans with their knickers in a twist because of Oriental Exclusion Acts and AJA Internment-- completely denying their constitutional rights? Forget it--encourage your fellow blacks to focus on education, clean, safe communities and strong two-parent families.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 "Who signed the Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment? "

Who signed the laws to help keep blacks enslaved in the first place? And how was a black supposed to sign the emancipation that legally ended slavery when that required a black to obtain a positon in society That was off limits to blacks by law? if there was no law that discrimanted against blacks in the first place then there would have been no need to sign one against that discrimination.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 If murdering others makes you culturally advanced then why do you say blacks slaughter each other and other races as if it is a bad thing? Why dont you think if a black slaughters another person of any color that makes him advanced too? Since you obviously see whites as a advanced cultural race.

[takfam07]

@rashadkijani (cont). So ethnic cleansing, etc. was a global norm for humans since Homo Erectus. Whites did it to blacks, Native Americans and others. But each of those did it to their neighbors as well. Whites just had technology to spread it farther. Point is, why go through life bitter at whites? The ones today aren't culpable, any more than you're a victim of past atrocities. We all have free will. Even Booker said slaves actually felt sorry for their white masters when freed.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 Well if you admit whites only dominated people militarily not becuz they have any better morals than any one else? Why do you talk in such reverence of them? Why do you insist that blacks are culturally backwards compared to whites? You only admit to my point before of "might makes right" mentality. If someone mass murders 100 people with a gun, then does that make him culturally advanced compared to someone who mass murders 100 people with a knife?

[jayelldude]

@rashadkijani GREETINGS BRO,,6 MONTHS AGO YOU HAD A COMMENT EXCHANGE WITH @TAKFAM07..this is a japanese racist who despises blacks ,,this asian bigot fills the comment pages harassing our people,,he will not find favor in black acheivements..he is simply harassing and defaming blacks where he can find them on youtube.he subscribes to white supremacy as an asian ,,PLEASE JOIN ME IN REPORTING THIS RACIST ON YOUTUBE,PLS CONTACT ME, GO BACK &READ YOUR EXCHANGE WITH HIM YOU WILL SEE

[takfam07]

@jayelldude Hmm, I don't know, man. I think it's YOU who's the racist. You've been calling me a "chink and "jap" consistently now, following me on all my posts. You called a young Egyptian woman, @academygirls111, a "sand nigger," which has really offended her.

You've created several phony accounts, two of which are racially insulting to me personally.

Sadly, we believe you have a mental illness, and should seek professional help. We're serious.

[jayelldude]

@takfam07 mental illness, huh!..don't try that soft ass approach..you asian racist,,,you have been all over the internet and youtube,,attacking black people and harassing them,,does not matter the issue,,many videos outside of egypt...someone suggested i google you then i found countless harassing exchanges between you attacking blacks,,you only attack blacks ,you like to play games,,so stop your playing innocent bullshit,,you have been exposed,,,,i only have one account. RACIST.

[takfam07]

@jayelldude Only a weak Afrocentric would say I'm "attacking" or "harassing" anyone. The fact is, my arguments and insights are clear and potent. They unlock truths which many blacks--like you--actually feel deep inside, but keep hidden. When brought to light, these truths are unsettling. They expose the raw nerve of cultural dysfunctionality--indeed, the cause of every single black malady today. Wrong cultural values are at the root of all black civilizational struggle. NOT racism.

[takfam07]

@jayelldude "i only have one account." LOL!!

On top of everything else, you are a LIAR. We all know you created several phony accounts in the space of a week, for the sole purpose of targeting people with racial insults. Just ask @academygirls111. She bears witness to your childish transgressions, which include sending her personal messages falsely claiming that I sent YOU messages criticizing her. You KNOW it was a complete lie. All your behaviors strongly hint at emotional instability.

[jayelldude]

@takfam07 prove that i have false accounts,,but i can prove you have harassed blacks on dozems and dozens of videos,,,always the same degrading 18th century ,blacks are less human,,less intelligent ,have evolved less than whites theory,,you patronize blacks to render under you,if they disagree then your racist streotyping about west africa is on display ,,you are all over the site going from black video to video with the same racist bullshit. you think you can keep pulling this shit

[takfam07]

@jayelldude LOL!! OK. Quote me specifically on where I said:

1) blacks were less human

2) blacks are intrinsically less intelligent.

3) blacks are less evolved than whites.

If there is so much evidence that I claimed these things, then you should be able to cite and quote specifically.

[jayelldude]

@takfam07 i just told you i am busy ,,now go play with all of those young people that you can intimidate with your fancy worda that streotypes them and insults their heritage,,but i see through it,,you know what you are doing and you know the history is not in our favor,,so you cowardly attack blacks who are not prepared to understand your dressed up insults,you used SAT&IQ scores,,all the social problems,,when we were dealing with egypt,,,you do this to insult,,don't play with me

[takfam07]

@jayelldude LOL!! You can't accuse someone of racist ideas, and not be able to show evidence when asked. I'm very careful and in control of my ideas. I know what I believe. So like I said, show everyone proof that I said blacks were a) less human, b) less intrinsically intelligent, or c) less evolved than whites.

And just because I quoted Jefferson or Hume saying blacks are inferior, doesn't mean that I personally believe it, too. I bring it up to show how people thought back then.

[jayelldude]

@takfam07 you can't remove yourself from the jefferson qoute ,it had nothing to do with the subject matter at all,,,you pulled and posted it as insult,,we already know how whites feel about blacks through out history,so who needs you to show me.,,that quote was a perfect example of historical advantages you use ,,you pattern white racial insults to say blacks are inferior You patronize blacks with your bullshit resolutions,,who in the hell want your help,,keep playing your games

[takfam07]

@jayelldude LOL!! If I quote Jefferson or whoever, it's to point out the impression Afrocentric ideas leave on the non-black observer. In the 21st century, we justify ignorant black thinking--we're all "cultural relativists" now. But in the 18th-19th centuries, they didn't suffer fools gladly. If you chose to play the fool, they wrote that into their assessment. See, content-wise nothing's changed re. white thinking vis-a-vis black thinking. But the rules of engagement have changed.

[rashadkijani]

@takfam07 We are talking about the concept of freedom? And like I said blacks were only free by legal definiton. And there is a difference between saying "whites are responsible" for something as opposed to saying someone who "happened to be white is responsible" for something.

[Graffight]

@glong86 - because we seem to be as a race closer to the negative things he spoke of in this quote "Nearly sixteen millions of hands will aid you in pulling the load upward, or they will pull against you the load downward. We shall constitute one-third and more of the ignorance and crime of the South, or one-third [of] its intelligence and progress; - cont

[Graffight]

@glong86 - we shall contribute one-third to the business and industrial prosperity of the South, or we shall prove a veritable body of death, stagnating, depressing, retarding every effort to advance the body politic."

[Tamarisify]

I don't understand what he is talking about.... I mean his main points. Could someone explain it???

[sixfourallstar]

The written version is everywhere. You should read through it; that would likely help you in forming your own interpretation. He's basically saying give blacks industry & labor jobs and blacks can provide a valuable service to Whites and America. Some, like me, say he's openly selling blacks out by saying Whites should be in charge & blacks should work for them, others say he's secretly trying to stimulate growth in the only professions that blacks realistically could work in back then. ???

[knowledgeaboveall]

(continued) They were here and free years longer but did not acheive as much as the African (American) who was free only a few decades and began to accomplish so much. So they created secondary laws, (i.e. Jim Crow) to establish that African Americans should not have as much freedom as the Constituion had established for all citizens- people born in America. This is where the continued suffering of the African in America began.

[MondoBeno]

His methods might not work now, btu only his methods would've worked then.

Some of his methods, however, are needed now.

The first trade he learned, and the first one he taught at Tuskeegee was bricklaying. Nowadays, we have kids graduating high school who can barely read and have no skill. It wouldn't do any harm for our kids to learn bricklaying, or concrete-pouring, or welding.

Sometimes, work-related skills are more important (and more lucrative) than a 4-year diploma.

[MegaKingleo1]

amazing!

[Liolar43]

Actually, I think this was recorded in 1895; not 1904.

[DavCaul]

@Liolar43: It was at the Cotton States and International Exposition in Atlanta on September 18, 1895 - so you are correct on the year!

[TheMusicLover234]

He looks scary. Lol and you would think he'd have a deeper voice.

[dallaskenn]

@TheMusicLover234 "Compromise", it was definately that!

[MrSuperfly1994]

Booker T. Washington helped maintain the peace between blacks and whites to a certain extent. Ever notice that the Klan only made it's comeback in 1915 the same year he died.

[rashadkijani]

@MrSuperfly1994 Booker t lived during jim crow Where lynchings and whites only signs were a common thing. Do you really call that peace between black and whites? I dont see how any one can think that there has been any peace between blacks and white or whites and non-whites in general at any reasonable level before the 1960's.

[MrSuperfly1994]

@rashadkijani I never said there was complete peace between the two groups. I simply stated that some peace was maintained to a certain extent in that there was no real organized opposition to black people at the time.

[rashadkijani]

@MrSuperfly1994 So you dont think the Jim Crow era was a time with organized opposition to blacks or basically anybody non-white? Well jim crow laws were just that laws that whites wrote and enfoced on non-whites. So what exactly are you calling organized?

[superman19742007]

@walleyrt69 Isn't it true that you ARE white and YOU are a racist idiot? so much for white=intelligence.

[SonnyAMan]

This is a very clear version. Mine is pretty distorted. Does anybody have any idea who recorded it originally? Was it Edison Records?

[transformingArt]

This was recorded for Columbia disc record. I have seen a copy of it.

[NintendoVampire]

One of the best books I ever read was "Character Building" by Booker T. Washington. It is a collection of speeches that he gave to his students. It's absolutely wonderful.

[hmorganman]

This speech has been misinterpreted as an endorsement of segregation. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a message propagating self-reliance. Develop the vast resources in your own community before you move heaven and earth to patronize those who would exploit you...or as the Romans called it: paying the cost of your own occupation.

[rashadkijani]

@hmorganman Who do you think he is telling to be more self reliant? and what kind of statement is it to tell someone to use their own resources before you patronize some one who will exploit you. if some one is exploiting you then that means they arent using their resources before they try to use yours so why would you criticize yourself for standing up to whoever is trying to exploit you. So what is wrong with patronizing some 1 who is trying to exploit you?

[rashadkijani]

@hmorganman What vast resources did blacks have during that time in their communnity? Most whites did not see anything in america as belonging to blacks so why are yout talking like blacks had some vast amount of resources they could use to move forward in life? Anything and everything back then was considered white man's property even the labor blacks did was considered the property of white's. So what vast resources are you refering too?

[knowledgeaboveall]

@rashadkijani Actually, after the civil war blacks had vast amounts of resources. They owned property, businesses, farmslands, laboratories, doctor's offices, and much more. They were business investors and traders with both domestic and foreign corporations and many became millionaires during that time. A few even became billionaires.

It was very upsetting to poorer whites who had not been able to accomplish the same tremendous strides...

[mychalpryor24]

Is this the original recording or how old is it?

[DIIDLS]

its like over 100 years old he gave this speech in 1895.

[Choowbz]

A truly important posting.

I for one would never have heard his inspiring logic if it was just left to history books.