The blame was still upon us if it wasn't for the plan of God to redeem the human race through the Annointed Which is Christ. The Redemption was planned even before creation, God knew what is coming. Lucifer and his rebellion angels were casted out of heaven because Lucifer refused to bow to a God in flesh which is the Son or the Word and refused to bow to the Woman which is the Mother of Christ. Lucifer wasn't cast of heaven because he wanted to take God's Throne.
@comali2212 you stated that "Lucifer refused to bow to a God in flesh which is the Son or the Word and refused to bow to the Woman which is the Mother of Christ." where in the bible can you read this statement? this is stupidity. Mary is just God's creation and it is not rightful to vow to her according to the bible.
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
@oliverballesteros María de Jesús de Ágreda, (2 April 1602 – 24 May 1665) a Franciscan nun known as The blue nun. ( The Mystical City of God ), the book was, to a considerable extent, dictated to her by the Blessed Virgin Mary herself. The book discusses revelations about the life of the Virgin Mary and the divine plan for creation and the salvation of souls.
@comali2212 I don't care who the hell dictate it and write it, i am stick to what the bible said in Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. even the angel that teaches against the doctrine of Christ CURSED UNTO HIM!. iM ASKING FOR BIBLICAL PROOF AND NOT OTHER BOOKS THAT IS AGAINST THE TEACHING OF THE BIBLE.
@oliverballesteros I can hear you already saying this is a blasphemy, the corrupt Catholic Church, etc, etc.. These book were discarded by the Catholic Church in the beginning, just to let you know.
These pious men and women who sees visions and revelations and for years not just for minutes or hours, about the life of Christ and His Mother on earth and their reality in the Kingdom of heaven, lived most of their lives in mortifications, prayers and fasting, I think they deserve some credibility.
@comali2212 YOU HAVE TO TRUST GOD AND LISTEN TO THE BIBLE AND NOT IN THE TEACHING OR WRITTINGS OF MEN. THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH FOR MEN'S SALVATION IT DOESN'T NEED A MATE OR OTHER BOOKS. it is written before the books that you are saying exist. Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (KJV)
Behold the Holy Bibles second commandant:You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." I have no concern if you worship them because here it says you should not even have the idols.
This is the (purest) form of comedy...when you don't know that you're the butt of your own joke! -former catholic checking things out from a whole other perspective. BTW, pray for my brother, he recently re-culted. Oh wait, never mind. See some old habits are just hard to break...unlike that dang statue, LOL.
Oh the horror when their silly statue broke. I bet the whole place was filled with "is satan here?" "Who has sinned, causing this to happen?" and much praying and chanting ensues! Well , i'll make it nice and easy for you. Yaweh did it to tell you as clear as he can, that he dosnt fucking exist.
...But we dont worship idols and tell me where god says that you cannot have statues within a church. I mean the temple had statues, the ark of the covenant had statues, and the people in eygpt were told to make a statue of a snake.
its sad to see that it is very clear that what they do is worshiping an idol yet they deny....Exodus 20:4-5 ) 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,..please read your bible,God bless
Actually, catholics changed that commandment. If you check their version of the top 10..you will notice that making statues, medals and other merchandising cash cows...is fine and dandy. They just replaced it with another commandment. Easy come..easy go!!
Oy! Are you serious? Mary (Miriam) is a composite character created by men and largely based on the Virgin Goddess Isis, the mother of Horus and a dozen other virgin mother goddesses.
Please view my Jesus Christ and bible Playlists to learn more about the astrotheological foundation of this cult and the man-made origins of all religion.
@thruthem Christianity is based on facts, not just words. The historical Christ and the historical Bible is based on true events and characters, not just fairy tales written by dreamers. The Roman Empire rules for hundreds of years, and the events in the new testament happened during that time, if you don't believe the the theological aspect of Bible, at least believe in it's historical aspect backed by tons of archaeological foundings and facts.
@qaadirowayne You have to believe and have faith first, then study the Bible, to understand, If you don't know how to drive a car, don't blame the fucking car, but blame your ignorance.
The Sonhood of Christ is not physical but spiritual. God the Spirit, took another nature by the Will of God that is the Father, and became God the Word in Flesh who is Jesus Christ. It's very simple, God took a flesh by the power of His own Spirit and by the power of His own will and became a Man. Got it know!
@comali2212 this statement is not biblical "God took a flesh by the power of His own Spirit and by the power of His own will and became a Man." this is against what st.James said in James 1:17 ( Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. ) Jesus changed but never the Father.
@oliverballesteros Yes, but He asked the Virgin for Her approval through the Angel Gabriel.
Jesus is the human image of the Father, the Father doesn't have a human face but through Christ. Mary was pregnant not from the Father, but from the holy Spirit if you want to take it literally.
God was unseen and not known to the human senses before Christ Jesus, theough Christ we knew the real nature of God as a Man and as a God, in His divine and human nature.
@qaadirowayne Mary was created by God, like you and I, but different than any other in flesh and in spirit, created without the stain of the original sin that every human being is stained by it since their birth from Adam and Eve till the end of time (beside Christ), in other words She is the Masterpiece of God, created by Him for a holy purpose.
The holy purpose that God wanted was a Woman without a stain to bear Him, a Virgin, again not just a Virgin in flesh, but a Virgin in spirit.
@comali2212 where in the bible can you find that men are born with original sin and Mary the mother of Christ is a masterpiece of God? is there such thing in the bible as virgin in spirit? site verses that prove your statement because those statement are not biblical and unchristians.
@oliverballesteros You don't find it literally, but it's explained clearly.
To choose 1 Woman among all women and giving Her the privilege to bear God in Her womb is a Masterpiece by itself created by God. God needs a holy and Virgin spirit and womb to bear His countenance, not a sinner. If He was born from any woman, He would have carried in His nature the original sin, which is not the real nature of God.
@comali2212 where in th bible can you read that mary the mother of Jesus is a masterpiece of God? and jesus would carry the nature of original sin when born from other women? that is your conclusion and not in the bible. you should be careful of posting such things that will mislead the readers of the comments about Christian faith.
@oliverballesteros And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him. He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away. He hath received Israel his servant, being mindful of his mercy: As he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his seed for ever.
@comali2212 where in your post stated that mary is a materpiece of God? what verse is that you post? and does that verse refer to mary? what is your biblical proof?
@oliverballesteros The original sin that contaminate the entire human race with pride and lust.
Christ wouldn't die on the cross if there was no reason for it, and the reason was this contamination and this curse if you want. We were cursed and contaminated to the point that it needed a sacrifice, a major and holy sacrifice to be able to heal from it, and the sacrifice was offered in everyway, since His birth through His entire life till his death on a cross, in spirit and in flesh and blood.
@comali2212 you are explaining things that is totally out of the context from the bible but what im asking are the verses that proves your statement. it is written in the bible that thou shall not be above what is written - 1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us NOT TO THINK OF MEN ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
@comali2212 ORIGINAL SIN IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, is it rightful for you to inherit the sins of your father? there is no such thing in the bible according to Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
@oliverballesteros Then can you tell me why He is called the Redeemer and Saviour? Why He came in flesh to this Earth? Why He was tortured, crucified and died? and why He was resurrected?
If it wasn't for the original sin that stained the whole human race, then for what reason He came and went through all this?
@comali2212 Jesus died to take away the sin (transgression of the law) of men who will believe and continuously remain in His words that's according to jn8:31; I cor 6:9-11; , not of original sin you are talking about, you cannot read a single verse in the bible that Christ died because of our original sin.
@oliverballesteros Why God stated the 10 commandements by Moses, it wasn't without a reason. By Adam's sin we were cursed and condemned for eternity, by Jesus's sacrifice we are saved if we believe in His Word, real nature and washed in His blood, Jesus is the new Adam who repaired our relation with the Father and opened the Kingdom of heaven for us. Adam & Eve were created holy and pure, but they took the poison of the devil and sinned against God. That was the curse and the mother of all sins.
@comali2212 God didn't stated the 10 commandments, he gave that commandments to the Israelite using Moises for them to obey it because it is the whole duty of men according to Ecc12:13. thus through Adam, sin entered to the world according to Rom5:12 but there is nothing in the scripture that stated that Adam's sin will be pass on to his children, the great example is abel. We are not cursed because of His sin.
@oliverballesteros What about Cain? He was the first fruit of their sins and his seeds still till today... Abel came after Abel, because Adam and Eve deeply regretted what they've done against God and were living in mortification till God had mercy on them and gave them Abel. Cain & Abel were the shining proof of the original sin.
It's not Adam's or Eve's fault, it's what the devil made them do, by insinuating and whispering in Eve's ear he aroused her senses and along with it her will to rebel.
@oliverballesteros The original sin means the sin that corrupted the human senses in thoughts and in feelings whether it's mental psychological or physical, it corrupted what God created, a man and a woman who are holy, pure and clean, became lustful and proud, and from that point all other sins were born, that's why pride is the worst sin against God.
@oliverballesteros Then Eve went to Adam, and whispered in his ears what the devil already did, and through her whispering Adam senses aroused and they became lustful, arrogant and proudful. Yes, their sin was sexual, they lost their spiritual virginity as well as their physical virginity. Why they knew of their nakedness and tried to cover it up while before they didn't, I mean think about it.
@comali2212 where in the bible can you read your statement that eve whisphered to adam's ears and he became arouse? you are adulterating the biblical scripture for adding something that is not written. their sin is not sexual, their sin is not listening to God's law stating not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (gen 2:16-17) they transgress God's commandment. It is their sin and not of Abel neither Abraham, noah, and many people of God that is righteous in His eyes.
@oliverballesteros The Mother of God was not just a vessel that God used to incarnate in flesh, She's much much more than that. This is the Mother of God, not just any woman, and I don't think Jesus will descriminate the Mother who kept Him in Her womb for 9 months, brought Him to life, raised Him with Her own heart and tears, under extreme pressure & persecution, even from Her own siblings. One of the 10 commandements says:Honor Thy father and Thy mother, Jesus's honoring His Mother like we do.
@comali2212 GO AND GET A EBIBLE OR DIGITAL BIBLE AND SEARCH FOR THE WORD "MOTHER OF GOD" THERE IS NO SUCH THING. Mary became the mother of Christ in flesh but not his mother in heaven, because God the Father Himself gave birth in to Jesus according to Heb 1:5-6 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
@oliverballesteros In John's book of Revelations, the Woman is the Virgin Mary not the Church, She's the Mother of the Church who takes care of Her Son's Church, as She did after His resurrection and ascension to heaven. From the revelations given to María de Jesús de Ágreda, that after Jesus Ascension to heaven, He took Mary with Him and gave Her the choice either to stay with Him or go back and take care of His Church, She decided to go back.
@comali2212 REFER TO THE BIBLE AND NOT OTHER BOOKS. I BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND NOT IN THAT INVENTED BOOK THAT TEACHES OTHER DOCTRINE. THE BIBLE IS AGAINST THAT TEACHING ACCORDING TO GAL 1:6 AND ISAIAS 34:16. In the book of revelation of John, do not misinterpret that the woman there is mary, because Mary is not the mother of the church according to the bible, Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
@oliverballesteros Mary did a lot of miracles and healings after Her Son's Ascension, and insisted telling the Apostles to never ever mention anything about these events in their writings. If the disciples used to do miracles, Mary can do them too, don't you think?
It amazes me how people can still put Mary away as just another woman used by God as a vessel and thrown away to the point that some believe that She did married again and had kids. She's The Virgin of God and His Mother.
@comali2212 If you are a believer of the bible, you will not listen to other teaching that is against the bible. it is written in Pro 19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge. Jesus and even God didn't gave Mary the power of healing, the proof is, not even one of the apostol or evangelist, neither prophet write a word about it, that is because it never happen.
@comali2212 do not accuse the apostles that they are not true to their writting, because according to the bible,
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
@oliverballesteros In this video above, you see nothing but a statue that represent Her, venerated and held on shoulders (the least we can do to say thank You for what She did for us), held on shoulders by old men, slipped mistakingly and fell down. What's the big deal, thousands and thousands of statues that represent Her and Her Son were burned and destroyed throughout history & most of them by persecution, so what's the big deal. Never think that God is displeased that we venerate His Mother.
@comali2212 Did God commanded Christians to worship His creation or worship Him and His son Jesus? never in the bible is written to make graven images of Mary and other saint and worship it.It is against the scripture to vow down into graven images thus God commanded to destroy it and cast it on fire. Deu 7:5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
@oliverballesteros Then tell me, Adam and Eve's sin was eating an apple from a tree!
The tree is a symbolic meaning, the forbidden is the knowledge of right from wrong, & the apple was the cause for their eyes to be opened. They took the 'bait' along with it the poisonous bite of Satan. Why do u think they shamefully hided their 'genitals' to cover themselves from the face of God, because they committed the lustful act &"they knew what it is", they disobeyed God's command, & the fruit was Cain.
@comali2212 APPLE??? God did not forbid Adam and Eve to eat apple.. READ YOUR BIBLE IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS. In the bible you cannot even read that Satan bit the fruit that Adam and Eve ate, you are adding thoughts from what is written, that is against God's commandment.
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
They hide their genitals because they became aware that they are naked according to...
@comali2212 Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Eating the fruit that came from that tree of knowledge of good and evil is enough to sin against God but what Adam actually sinned from is not listening to God and instead, he listen to his wife according to Gen 3:17
Don't you think that pride is the mother of all sins and to be specific the major deadly seven sins? wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.
Those are the major seven deadly sins, you figure it out which of those Adam and Eve's sin was.
@oliverballesteros Don't u know that there was many papers in the Bible destroyed throughout the years because of the lenght of time, that's why in some events u see gaps. 3 reasons why the New Testament is not complete, not in it's fundamental meanings but in the gaps of events. The first was the extreme persecution against the Apostles, the second was the stubborness of the Apostles still attached to their Judaism & the third was the missing papers through the lenght of time caused by nature.
@comali2212 even if it is complete or not, the fact remains that the bible is enough to obtain salvation, you don't need other books. and don't accuse the apostles stubborn, the fact is, you are the one who is stubborn. the apostles died in their faith and remain true to Jesus teaching, while you remain to the teaching that is against their teaching.
@oliverballesteros Read the end of John's Gospel and you'll know that if they wrote everything that Jesus did, the whole world (so to speak) will not be enough to contain it.
John didn't say that for nothing and without a meaning.
@comali2212 I read it already and it must be you who should read the bible because what you are teaching is against the bible and came from other books. there is no such thing as original sin, Mary should not be worship neither men or angels except God and His Son Jesus, Mary did not remain virgin after the birth of Christ in fact she gave birth to other children than of Jesus written in Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? ...
@comali2212 is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH TO OBTAIN SALVATION AND DO NOT REFER TO OTHER BOOKS... YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE WORD OF GOD AND HIS GOSPEL AND NOT OTHER CLAIMED GOSPEL OR BOOKS OR TEACHING THAT CONTRADICT THE BIBLE.
@comali2212 I will close this debate if you will not comment anymore. Let the reader decide who is right between us. and if you have time, please watch bro eli soriano in theoldpath.tv and learn unadulterated teaching of the bible.
Job 34:4 Let us choose to us judgment: let us know among ourselves what is good.
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
prophet Jeremiah proves that there is no such thing as original sin because before He was made, He was known to God.f you will just open your mind and read my comments you will learn that according to the scripture there in no such thing as original sin.
@comali2212 watch brother eliseo soriano in the old path channel for better understanding about our discussion. His statement is biblical and has biblical proofs.
@oliverballesteros Then is it righteous for God to bear our sins if it wasn't His Will?!
Why do you think the whole world is in sin today and it's getting worse?
Adam and Eve were created holy and clean, they were stained and rebelled and along with them the whole human race. You want the proof? Look what is happening today, even Christ's Sacrifice wasn't enough and the only door to get away with it, is to repent, washed with His blood and believe in His true nature.
@comali2212 Adam and Eve were stained and rebelled and along with them the human race? where in the bible can you read such things? Adam and Eve are prophets of God, even Enoc, Abel, and people of God are rebellious to you? Christ sacrifice is enough, and there are lots of things that God is doing for men to be save because it is His will according to 1Ti 2:3-4 ...Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
@oliverballesteros It is not your fault if your earthly father or grandfather mother or grandmother were sinners, I'm not talking about taking the blame of another person's fault, what I'm saying is that the first born of God's creations that they were created holy and clean were stained and rebelled against God by their own will and by doing so they were contaminated in body and in spirit, because they were not created that way, but the became that way, through pride, rebellion and lust.
@comali2212 that is your conclusion and not according to the bible because in the bible you cannot read a verse or teaching justifying about original sin. Abel is righteous in the eyes of God though he is son of Adam, who transgress God's law. Noah and Job are perfect being in the eyes of the Lord in their times, but there is nothing you can read that they have original sins.
@comali2212 where in the bible can you read that the mother of all sin is called original sin? be biblical and site verse. it is against the holy scripture to preach something that the apostol or even Jesus our Lord didn't preach. according to Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. you will be curse for preaching other gospel.
@oliverballesteros Give the Aids desease to a Man or a Woman, and all their children will have it. That was a simple example.
Sinning was much much worse than the Aids, it was the work of both the spirit and flesh against the Will of God, it destroyed the fundamental basics of holiness that they were created in, why do you think Adam and Eve knew they were naked and covered themselves while before sinning they didn't have a clue?
@comali2212 what i'm asking is a verse in the bible that says that there is such thing as original sin, that's not even biblical. your example is ilogical, why would i give AIDS disease to a man and a woman? did God gave sin to Adam and Eve? No, God did not, and in fact, they commit it themselves especially Adam. the reason that there is no such thing as original sin is because of Jesus statement in Mat 19:13-14 that for such is the kingdom of heaven. and men are...
@comali2212 men are made upright but they have sought out many invention according to Ecc 7:29. God will not let the newborn to have your belief of original sin as the bible said in Heb 5:13 everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, it is imposible for a child to commit sin, because sin is a transgression of the law, according to 1jn3:4, what law did newborn commit? original sin does not exist.
@qaadirowayne God was born from a Virgin, kept His Virgin (Mary) a Virgin even after His birth. Christ was born from Mary like the sunlight that penetrate the window glass without touching it, He wasn't born like you & I, He was born miraculously Leaving Her womb the same way He left His Shroud, the Shroud that was left the way it was, without being touched. Therefore He IS the Son of Mary, & He was known as the Son of the carpenter Joseph as well, and He called Himself the Son of humanity too.
@comali2212 >> you are commenting a lot of non-biblical statement. where can you find in the bible that mary the mother of Jesus was kept a virgin after Jesus birth? and where in the bible can you find that GOD was born from a Virgin and Jesus called himself as Son of humanity?
@qaadirowayne Jesus Christ is the Son of God in Spirit not in flesh, the Word of God (Jesus Christ) that by the Will of God named (the Father), and by the power of the holy Spirit (One Spirit, the Spirit of the Will and the Spirit of the Word 'named the Son', took a flesh through His Masterpiece (Mary) and became a Man, no other power or human was involved beside what I've mentioned. Jesus Christ is the Trinity shown before our eyes, the 3 persons and 3 natures of God in One God and Triune, HIM.
@comali2212 trinity?? where can you find in the bible that Jesus is the trinity? there is not a word in any translation of the bible the word trinity. God the Father is different from Jesus Christ and so the Holy Spirit. God is greater than Jesus (john 14:28) and Jesus is greater than the Holy Spirit (john 13:16; john 16:7,13-14). they are UNITED ONE like Christians (John17:22; 1cor10:17) and not as one God, because even in there are many true god in the bible...
@qaadirowayne@qaadirowayne you know i was once like you before, it was confusing. i even joined the islamic faith but when i watched bro eli in our local television, it was then i understand and decided to be a Christian till my dying day with God's help. my advise is to watch and listen to bro eli soriano of the old path channel and read the bible. you can watch it here in youtube, just search for the word "the old path"
@comali2212 - Hmmm Actually Wake up, no one Make statue of his mother and walk around the street carrying and worshiping her right? because its an Evil act, against the will of God who teach us to Worship. this is a act of Idolatry, worshiping the Creation and Not the Creator. God wants people pray, ask and Thank direct to Him no other medium.. in the bible Catholics Pope holding and Reading in front of His members it is was written clearly, thou shall not make idols, nor worship.
I am a true christian. I believe this video is a wake up call to true christians out there of the kind of idolatry that exists in the Roman Catholic church today as it has for more than a thousand years. Non-christians are right in ridiculing this form of worship because this flys right in the face of the way the truth and the life which Jesus claims to be. It is a violation of truth and the commandments of the one true God. This video was hilarious and scarey at the same time.
o get over yourself.... these arguments or should i say lies are quite old don't you think... CATHOLICS DON'TWORSHIP STATUES NOR MARY NOR ANY SAINT... THE CHURCH ONLY WORSHIPS THE TRUE GOD THE BLESSED TRINITY FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT... you would think that satan has new arguments and new lies to bring against the church but i guess its same old same old
Idiot. It is a sign that God is greater than Idolators. Use your head, if a pathetic wimp like you can exist in this universe what makes you think that a great God can't? As if you would care.
It isn't a sign of anything. Get over yourself. Accidents happen all the time. It happens in a church and it's all 'praise the Lord!' instead of 'hey maybe we should get people to lift the heavy statue that ARE'NT over 70!'. I admit, we're cosmic flees...but I can see us. This cosmic all-powerful entity of yours is a big no show.
Down goes Dagon, down goes Dagon!!!!!
MrHereIStand 3 days ago
believe in the word of God not in the word of men. if you are christian, you will believe in God's words and not of men's invented story.
Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
The blame was still upon us if it wasn't for the plan of God to redeem the human race through the Annointed Which is Christ. The Redemption was planned even before creation, God knew what is coming. Lucifer and his rebellion angels were casted out of heaven because Lucifer refused to bow to a God in flesh which is the Son or the Word and refused to bow to the Woman which is the Mother of Christ. Lucifer wasn't cast of heaven because he wanted to take God's Throne.
comali2212 4 weeks ago
@comali2212 you stated that "Lucifer refused to bow to a God in flesh which is the Son or the Word and refused to bow to the Woman which is the Mother of Christ." where in the bible can you read this statement? this is stupidity. Mary is just God's creation and it is not rightful to vow to her according to the bible.
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros María de Jesús de Ágreda, (2 April 1602 – 24 May 1665) a Franciscan nun known as The blue nun. ( The Mystical City of God ), the book was, to a considerable extent, dictated to her by the Blessed Virgin Mary herself. The book discusses revelations about the life of the Virgin Mary and the divine plan for creation and the salvation of souls.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 I don't care who the hell dictate it and write it, i am stick to what the bible said in Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. even the angel that teaches against the doctrine of Christ CURSED UNTO HIM!. iM ASKING FOR BIBLICAL PROOF AND NOT OTHER BOOKS THAT IS AGAINST THE TEACHING OF THE BIBLE.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros I can hear you already saying this is a blasphemy, the corrupt Catholic Church, etc, etc.. These book were discarded by the Catholic Church in the beginning, just to let you know.
These pious men and women who sees visions and revelations and for years not just for minutes or hours, about the life of Christ and His Mother on earth and their reality in the Kingdom of heaven, lived most of their lives in mortifications, prayers and fasting, I think they deserve some credibility.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 YOU HAVE TO TRUST GOD AND LISTEN TO THE BIBLE AND NOT IN THE TEACHING OR WRITTINGS OF MEN. THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH FOR MEN'S SALVATION IT DOESN'T NEED A MATE OR OTHER BOOKS. it is written before the books that you are saying exist. Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
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oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
Its the old twats fault at the front. He got lazy and thought he could 'switch it'.
truthoutmedia 2 months ago
Silly religious nuts.
TheIsaacMatthews 3 months ago
Just think of all the souls that won't know SALVATION now that this Mary idol has been beheaded. :O.
RamsesReturns 5 months ago
Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (KJV)
Ubuntufrog 5 months ago
what just happened was not cool
CrazyNative4 9 months ago
idol worship is as stupid
as that old man was
qaadirowayne 1 year ago
Idle idol?
hollywoodt00 1 year ago
lmao! This is the kind of stuff that makes youtube worthwhile.
wickedenchanter 1 year ago
IDOL WORSHIP!!!
kopfgeldgauna 1 year ago
Behold the Holy Bibles second commandant:You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." I have no concern if you worship them because here it says you should not even have the idols.
XboxLiveBot09 1 year ago
Not a big deal. Human error. A statue can be replaced. The horror expressed is the same you would see at the scene of an accident--totally human.
What is unnatural is the glee of critics who read into this mishap, God's judgement.
iSATANRIKUZUSU 1 year ago
This is the (purest) form of comedy...when you don't know that you're the butt of your own joke! -former catholic checking things out from a whole other perspective. BTW, pray for my brother, he recently re-culted. Oh wait, never mind. See some old habits are just hard to break...unlike that dang statue, LOL.
Clyntell54 1 year ago
Oh the horror when their silly statue broke. I bet the whole place was filled with "is satan here?" "Who has sinned, causing this to happen?" and much praying and chanting ensues! Well , i'll make it nice and easy for you. Yaweh did it to tell you as clear as he can, that he dosnt fucking exist.
tommiatkins 1 year ago
guess they'll be-heading for the fix it shop! :D
DSCW33 1 year ago
THANK GOD!!!!!
ovenil60 1 year ago
THE MOTHER OF GOD IS NOW DEAD, UNLEASH THE DEMONS FROM HELL!!! lol
SanguineBullet667 2 years ago
Oh man I can't stop laughing... This is Idol worship anyway.
RicoRicanNYC 2 years ago 7
...But we dont worship idols and tell me where god says that you cannot have statues within a church. I mean the temple had statues, the ark of the covenant had statues, and the people in eygpt were told to make a statue of a snake.
RockyBalboa211 2 years ago
PTL
4096x 2 years ago
its sad to see that it is very clear that what they do is worshiping an idol yet they deny....Exodus 20:4-5 ) 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,..please read your bible,God bless
godsent30 2 years ago 4
Actually, catholics changed that commandment. If you check their version of the top 10..you will notice that making statues, medals and other merchandising cash cows...is fine and dandy. They just replaced it with another commandment. Easy come..easy go!!
PyschoChaser 2 years ago
Shit certainly happens
Ruby1978 2 years ago
What do you expect? The people carrying the statue were like 87 years old...At least get somebody born in the last 40 years to do it.
onemansvoice78 2 years ago
poor mary
Kite208 2 years ago
Ouch!
ProfMTH 2 years ago
If the picture of anyone's beloved mother of you fell down and broke into pieces, would you be making fun of it !
This Mother is the Mother of Jesus Christ.
It's just a statue, held by seniors, fell down mistakingly, so whats the big deal!
See, Catholics doesn't worship idols, we know it's just a statue, but we honor what this statue represent, the Mother of our Lord..
I wonder if a picture of a beloved one was burned, torn into pieces, spat upon or even was lost,what woud be ur reactions!
comali2212 2 years ago 2
Oy! Are you serious? Mary (Miriam) is a composite character created by men and largely based on the Virgin Goddess Isis, the mother of Horus and a dozen other virgin mother goddesses.
Please view my Jesus Christ and bible Playlists to learn more about the astrotheological foundation of this cult and the man-made origins of all religion.
thruthem 2 years ago
I know right? They always claim the don't "worship" the statues.....but just listen to the crowds reaction when it was broken. They were horrified.
When you break a pagan's idol, the pagan gets upset :-)
YHWHisElohim 2 years ago 9
@YHWHisElohim the same way if some material of yours that you hold precious to you...you would get upset...
santanaramostarango 7 months ago
@thruthem Christianity is based on facts, not just words. The historical Christ and the historical Bible is based on true events and characters, not just fairy tales written by dreamers. The Roman Empire rules for hundreds of years, and the events in the new testament happened during that time, if you don't believe the the theological aspect of Bible, at least believe in it's historical aspect backed by tons of archaeological foundings and facts.
comali2212 1 year ago
@comali2212 wtf the mother of our lord
i dont get christians
one minute jesus is son of mary
another minute hes the son of god
and then again hes god wtf is that ????????????????????????????????????????????
qaadirowayne 1 year ago
@qaadirowayne You have to believe and have faith first, then study the Bible, to understand, If you don't know how to drive a car, don't blame the fucking car, but blame your ignorance.
The Sonhood of Christ is not physical but spiritual. God the Spirit, took another nature by the Will of God that is the Father, and became God the Word in Flesh who is Jesus Christ. It's very simple, God took a flesh by the power of His own Spirit and by the power of His own will and became a Man. Got it know!
comali2212 1 year ago
@comali2212 this statement is not biblical "God took a flesh by the power of His own Spirit and by the power of His own will and became a Man." this is against what st.James said in James 1:17 ( Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. ) Jesus changed but never the Father.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros Yes, but He asked the Virgin for Her approval through the Angel Gabriel.
Jesus is the human image of the Father, the Father doesn't have a human face but through Christ. Mary was pregnant not from the Father, but from the holy Spirit if you want to take it literally.
God was unseen and not known to the human senses before Christ Jesus, theough Christ we knew the real nature of God as a Man and as a God, in His divine and human nature.
comali2212 1 month ago
@qaadirowayne Mary was created by God, like you and I, but different than any other in flesh and in spirit, created without the stain of the original sin that every human being is stained by it since their birth from Adam and Eve till the end of time (beside Christ), in other words She is the Masterpiece of God, created by Him for a holy purpose.
The holy purpose that God wanted was a Woman without a stain to bear Him, a Virgin, again not just a Virgin in flesh, but a Virgin in spirit.
comali2212 1 year ago
@comali2212 where in the bible can you find that men are born with original sin and Mary the mother of Christ is a masterpiece of God? is there such thing in the bible as virgin in spirit? site verses that prove your statement because those statement are not biblical and unchristians.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros You don't find it literally, but it's explained clearly.
To choose 1 Woman among all women and giving Her the privilege to bear God in Her womb is a Masterpiece by itself created by God. God needs a holy and Virgin spirit and womb to bear His countenance, not a sinner. If He was born from any woman, He would have carried in His nature the original sin, which is not the real nature of God.
God is holy, in spirit and in flesh.
The original sin is Adam's and Eve's sin,
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 where in th bible can you read that mary the mother of Jesus is a masterpiece of God? and jesus would carry the nature of original sin when born from other women? that is your conclusion and not in the bible. you should be careful of posting such things that will mislead the readers of the comments about Christian faith.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros My soul doth magnify the Lord.
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid;
for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Because he that is mighty,
hath done great things to me;
and holy is his name.
comali2212 1 month ago
comali2212 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros That's where the Bible shows that Mary is the Masterpiece of God.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 where in your post stated that mary is a materpiece of God? what verse is that you post? and does that verse refer to mary? what is your biblical proof?
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros The original sin that contaminate the entire human race with pride and lust.
Christ wouldn't die on the cross if there was no reason for it, and the reason was this contamination and this curse if you want. We were cursed and contaminated to the point that it needed a sacrifice, a major and holy sacrifice to be able to heal from it, and the sacrifice was offered in everyway, since His birth through His entire life till his death on a cross, in spirit and in flesh and blood.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 you are explaining things that is totally out of the context from the bible but what im asking are the verses that proves your statement. it is written in the bible that thou shall not be above what is written - 1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us NOT TO THINK OF MEN ABOVE THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@comali2212 ORIGINAL SIN IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, is it rightful for you to inherit the sins of your father? there is no such thing in the bible according to Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros Then can you tell me why He is called the Redeemer and Saviour? Why He came in flesh to this Earth? Why He was tortured, crucified and died? and why He was resurrected?
If it wasn't for the original sin that stained the whole human race, then for what reason He came and went through all this?
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 Jesus died to take away the sin (transgression of the law) of men who will believe and continuously remain in His words that's according to jn8:31; I cor 6:9-11; , not of original sin you are talking about, you cannot read a single verse in the bible that Christ died because of our original sin.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros Why God stated the 10 commandements by Moses, it wasn't without a reason. By Adam's sin we were cursed and condemned for eternity, by Jesus's sacrifice we are saved if we believe in His Word, real nature and washed in His blood, Jesus is the new Adam who repaired our relation with the Father and opened the Kingdom of heaven for us. Adam & Eve were created holy and pure, but they took the poison of the devil and sinned against God. That was the curse and the mother of all sins.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 God didn't stated the 10 commandments, he gave that commandments to the Israelite using Moises for them to obey it because it is the whole duty of men according to Ecc12:13. thus through Adam, sin entered to the world according to Rom5:12 but there is nothing in the scripture that stated that Adam's sin will be pass on to his children, the great example is abel. We are not cursed because of His sin.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros What about Cain? He was the first fruit of their sins and his seeds still till today... Abel came after Abel, because Adam and Eve deeply regretted what they've done against God and were living in mortification till God had mercy on them and gave them Abel. Cain & Abel were the shining proof of the original sin.
It's not Adam's or Eve's fault, it's what the devil made them do, by insinuating and whispering in Eve's ear he aroused her senses and along with it her will to rebel.
comali2212 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Abel came after Cain**
comali2212 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros The original sin means the sin that corrupted the human senses in thoughts and in feelings whether it's mental psychological or physical, it corrupted what God created, a man and a woman who are holy, pure and clean, became lustful and proud, and from that point all other sins were born, that's why pride is the worst sin against God.
comali2212 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Then Eve went to Adam, and whispered in his ears what the devil already did, and through her whispering Adam senses aroused and they became lustful, arrogant and proudful. Yes, their sin was sexual, they lost their spiritual virginity as well as their physical virginity. Why they knew of their nakedness and tried to cover it up while before they didn't, I mean think about it.
comali2212 4 weeks ago
@comali2212 where in the bible can you read your statement that eve whisphered to adam's ears and he became arouse? you are adulterating the biblical scripture for adding something that is not written. their sin is not sexual, their sin is not listening to God's law stating not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (gen 2:16-17) they transgress God's commandment. It is their sin and not of Abel neither Abraham, noah, and many people of God that is righteous in His eyes.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros The Mother of God was not just a vessel that God used to incarnate in flesh, She's much much more than that. This is the Mother of God, not just any woman, and I don't think Jesus will descriminate the Mother who kept Him in Her womb for 9 months, brought Him to life, raised Him with Her own heart and tears, under extreme pressure & persecution, even from Her own siblings. One of the 10 commandements says:Honor Thy father and Thy mother, Jesus's honoring His Mother like we do.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 GO AND GET A EBIBLE OR DIGITAL BIBLE AND SEARCH FOR THE WORD "MOTHER OF GOD" THERE IS NO SUCH THING. Mary became the mother of Christ in flesh but not his mother in heaven, because God the Father Himself gave birth in to Jesus according to Heb 1:5-6 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros In John's book of Revelations, the Woman is the Virgin Mary not the Church, She's the Mother of the Church who takes care of Her Son's Church, as She did after His resurrection and ascension to heaven. From the revelations given to María de Jesús de Ágreda, that after Jesus Ascension to heaven, He took Mary with Him and gave Her the choice either to stay with Him or go back and take care of His Church, She decided to go back.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 REFER TO THE BIBLE AND NOT OTHER BOOKS. I BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND NOT IN THAT INVENTED BOOK THAT TEACHES OTHER DOCTRINE. THE BIBLE IS AGAINST THAT TEACHING ACCORDING TO GAL 1:6 AND ISAIAS 34:16. In the book of revelation of John, do not misinterpret that the woman there is mary, because Mary is not the mother of the church according to the bible, Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Mary did a lot of miracles and healings after Her Son's Ascension, and insisted telling the Apostles to never ever mention anything about these events in their writings. If the disciples used to do miracles, Mary can do them too, don't you think?
It amazes me how people can still put Mary away as just another woman used by God as a vessel and thrown away to the point that some believe that She did married again and had kids. She's The Virgin of God and His Mother.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 If you are a believer of the bible, you will not listen to other teaching that is against the bible. it is written in Pro 19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge. Jesus and even God didn't gave Mary the power of healing, the proof is, not even one of the apostol or evangelist, neither prophet write a word about it, that is because it never happen.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 do not accuse the apostles that they are not true to their writting, because according to the bible,
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros In this video above, you see nothing but a statue that represent Her, venerated and held on shoulders (the least we can do to say thank You for what She did for us), held on shoulders by old men, slipped mistakingly and fell down. What's the big deal, thousands and thousands of statues that represent Her and Her Son were burned and destroyed throughout history & most of them by persecution, so what's the big deal. Never think that God is displeased that we venerate His Mother.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 Did God commanded Christians to worship His creation or worship Him and His son Jesus? never in the bible is written to make graven images of Mary and other saint and worship it.It is against the scripture to vow down into graven images thus God commanded to destroy it and cast it on fire. Deu 7:5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Then tell me, Adam and Eve's sin was eating an apple from a tree!
The tree is a symbolic meaning, the forbidden is the knowledge of right from wrong, & the apple was the cause for their eyes to be opened. They took the 'bait' along with it the poisonous bite of Satan. Why do u think they shamefully hided their 'genitals' to cover themselves from the face of God, because they committed the lustful act &"they knew what it is", they disobeyed God's command, & the fruit was Cain.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 APPLE??? God did not forbid Adam and Eve to eat apple.. READ YOUR BIBLE IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS. In the bible you cannot even read that Satan bit the fruit that Adam and Eve ate, you are adding thoughts from what is written, that is against God's commandment.
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
They hide their genitals because they became aware that they are naked according to...
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Eating the fruit that came from that tree of knowledge of good and evil is enough to sin against God but what Adam actually sinned from is not listening to God and instead, he listen to his wife according to Gen 3:17
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros If their sin is not sexual, then what is it?
Don't you think that pride is the mother of all sins and to be specific the major deadly seven sins? wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.
Those are the major seven deadly sins, you figure it out which of those Adam and Eve's sin was.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Don't u know that there was many papers in the Bible destroyed throughout the years because of the lenght of time, that's why in some events u see gaps. 3 reasons why the New Testament is not complete, not in it's fundamental meanings but in the gaps of events. The first was the extreme persecution against the Apostles, the second was the stubborness of the Apostles still attached to their Judaism & the third was the missing papers through the lenght of time caused by nature.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 even if it is complete or not, the fact remains that the bible is enough to obtain salvation, you don't need other books. and don't accuse the apostles stubborn, the fact is, you are the one who is stubborn. the apostles died in their faith and remain true to Jesus teaching, while you remain to the teaching that is against their teaching.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Read the end of John's Gospel and you'll know that if they wrote everything that Jesus did, the whole world (so to speak) will not be enough to contain it.
John didn't say that for nothing and without a meaning.
That would be the closing debate with you.
God bless
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 I read it already and it must be you who should read the bible because what you are teaching is against the bible and came from other books. there is no such thing as original sin, Mary should not be worship neither men or angels except God and His Son Jesus, Mary did not remain virgin after the birth of Christ in fact she gave birth to other children than of Jesus written in Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? ...
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH TO OBTAIN SALVATION AND DO NOT REFER TO OTHER BOOKS... YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE WORD OF GOD AND HIS GOSPEL AND NOT OTHER CLAIMED GOSPEL OR BOOKS OR TEACHING THAT CONTRADICT THE BIBLE.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 I will close this debate if you will not comment anymore. Let the reader decide who is right between us. and if you have time, please watch bro eli soriano in theoldpath.tv and learn unadulterated teaching of the bible.
Job 34:4 Let us choose to us judgment: let us know among ourselves what is good.
oliverballesteros 3 weeks ago
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@comali2212 according to
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
prophet Jeremiah proves that there is no such thing as original sin because before He was made, He was known to God.f you will just open your mind and read my comments you will learn that according to the scripture there in no such thing as original sin.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
@comali2212 watch brother eliseo soriano in the old path channel for better understanding about our discussion. His statement is biblical and has biblical proofs.
oliverballesteros 4 weeks ago
@oliverballesteros Then is it righteous for God to bear our sins if it wasn't His Will?!
Why do you think the whole world is in sin today and it's getting worse?
Adam and Eve were created holy and clean, they were stained and rebelled and along with them the whole human race. You want the proof? Look what is happening today, even Christ's Sacrifice wasn't enough and the only door to get away with it, is to repent, washed with His blood and believe in His true nature.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 Adam and Eve were stained and rebelled and along with them the human race? where in the bible can you read such things? Adam and Eve are prophets of God, even Enoc, Abel, and people of God are rebellious to you? Christ sacrifice is enough, and there are lots of things that God is doing for men to be save because it is His will according to 1Ti 2:3-4 ...Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros It is not your fault if your earthly father or grandfather mother or grandmother were sinners, I'm not talking about taking the blame of another person's fault, what I'm saying is that the first born of God's creations that they were created holy and clean were stained and rebelled against God by their own will and by doing so they were contaminated in body and in spirit, because they were not created that way, but the became that way, through pride, rebellion and lust.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 that is your conclusion and not according to the bible because in the bible you cannot read a verse or teaching justifying about original sin. Abel is righteous in the eyes of God though he is son of Adam, who transgress God's law. Noah and Job are perfect being in the eyes of the Lord in their times, but there is nothing you can read that they have original sins.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros That's the Original Sin that the Bible didn't literally named it.
It's called original because it's the mother of all sin.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 where in the bible can you read that the mother of all sin is called original sin? be biblical and site verse. it is against the holy scripture to preach something that the apostol or even Jesus our Lord didn't preach. according to Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. you will be curse for preaching other gospel.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@oliverballesteros Give the Aids desease to a Man or a Woman, and all their children will have it. That was a simple example.
Sinning was much much worse than the Aids, it was the work of both the spirit and flesh against the Will of God, it destroyed the fundamental basics of holiness that they were created in, why do you think Adam and Eve knew they were naked and covered themselves while before sinning they didn't have a clue?
That might give you a lil clue.
comali2212 1 month ago
@comali2212 what i'm asking is a verse in the bible that says that there is such thing as original sin, that's not even biblical. your example is ilogical, why would i give AIDS disease to a man and a woman? did God gave sin to Adam and Eve? No, God did not, and in fact, they commit it themselves especially Adam. the reason that there is no such thing as original sin is because of Jesus statement in Mat 19:13-14 that for such is the kingdom of heaven. and men are...
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@comali2212 men are made upright but they have sought out many invention according to Ecc 7:29. God will not let the newborn to have your belief of original sin as the bible said in Heb 5:13 everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, it is imposible for a child to commit sin, because sin is a transgression of the law, according to 1jn3:4, what law did newborn commit? original sin does not exist.
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@qaadirowayne God was born from a Virgin, kept His Virgin (Mary) a Virgin even after His birth. Christ was born from Mary like the sunlight that penetrate the window glass without touching it, He wasn't born like you & I, He was born miraculously Leaving Her womb the same way He left His Shroud, the Shroud that was left the way it was, without being touched. Therefore He IS the Son of Mary, & He was known as the Son of the carpenter Joseph as well, and He called Himself the Son of humanity too.
comali2212 1 year ago
@comali2212 >> you are commenting a lot of non-biblical statement. where can you find in the bible that mary the mother of Jesus was kept a virgin after Jesus birth? and where in the bible can you find that GOD was born from a Virgin and Jesus called himself as Son of humanity?
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@qaadirowayne Jesus Christ is the Son of God in Spirit not in flesh, the Word of God (Jesus Christ) that by the Will of God named (the Father), and by the power of the holy Spirit (One Spirit, the Spirit of the Will and the Spirit of the Word 'named the Son', took a flesh through His Masterpiece (Mary) and became a Man, no other power or human was involved beside what I've mentioned. Jesus Christ is the Trinity shown before our eyes, the 3 persons and 3 natures of God in One God and Triune, HIM.
comali2212 1 year ago
@comali2212 trinity?? where can you find in the bible that Jesus is the trinity? there is not a word in any translation of the bible the word trinity. God the Father is different from Jesus Christ and so the Holy Spirit. God is greater than Jesus (john 14:28) and Jesus is greater than the Holy Spirit (john 13:16; john 16:7,13-14). they are UNITED ONE like Christians (John17:22; 1cor10:17) and not as one God, because even in there are many true god in the bible...
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@qaadirowayne God before Christ, was known by Spirit, by names and by words.
God after Christ became visible and known in Spirit, in Words and in flesh.
" Who saw Me saw the Father, I Am in My Father and My Father is in Me".
"Before Abraham was, I Am".
" I Am the Alpha and the Omega".
" No one could come to the Father but by Me".
" Father, into Thy hands ( I commit My Spirit ), He decided when to born, when & how to die, and when and how to resurrect.
What do we need more to understand!
comali2212 1 year ago
@qaadirowayne @qaadirowayne you know i was once like you before, it was confusing. i even joined the islamic faith but when i watched bro eli in our local television, it was then i understand and decided to be a Christian till my dying day with God's help. my advise is to watch and listen to bro eli soriano of the old path channel and read the bible. you can watch it here in youtube, just search for the word "the old path"
oliverballesteros 1 month ago
@comali2212 - Hmmm Actually Wake up, no one Make statue of his mother and walk around the street carrying and worshiping her right? because its an Evil act, against the will of God who teach us to Worship. this is a act of Idolatry, worshiping the Creation and Not the Creator. God wants people pray, ask and Thank direct to Him no other medium.. in the bible Catholics Pope holding and Reading in front of His members it is was written clearly, thou shall not make idols, nor worship.
MrWeaskyou 2 months ago
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ajlobo28 2 years ago
for the catholic.. this shit is a bad omen.. lmao.. funny shit.. lmao..
CilicianWarrior 3 years ago
OR...it's gravity.
daniel356356 3 years ago
I am a true christian. I believe this video is a wake up call to true christians out there of the kind of idolatry that exists in the Roman Catholic church today as it has for more than a thousand years. Non-christians are right in ridiculing this form of worship because this flys right in the face of the way the truth and the life which Jesus claims to be. It is a violation of truth and the commandments of the one true God. This video was hilarious and scarey at the same time.
blithm1 3 years ago
o get over yourself.... these arguments or should i say lies are quite old don't you think... CATHOLICS DON'TWORSHIP STATUES NOR MARY NOR ANY SAINT... THE CHURCH ONLY WORSHIPS THE TRUE GOD THE BLESSED TRINITY FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT... you would think that satan has new arguments and new lies to bring against the church but i guess its same old same old
angrymeow 2 years ago
Why did god gave you a computer anyway. Go to bed.
swedishmetalupyours 2 years ago
That is awesome!!
TiberianKing 3 years ago
LOLO
FactVsReligion 3 years ago
lol..that guy in the front (closest to camera) didn't know what the hell he was doing! He wasn't holding on to start with!
lol at standing the statue up with no head in front of everyone - and then walking off! LMAO!!
funkyou2008 3 years ago
ok im catholic why did they let old people carry it tradition?and it was unstable i think even with young men same thing might happen
2submit 3 years ago
off with her head, fucking classic
carnut666 3 years ago
LOL! Listen to everyone gasp and cry! LOL! It's just a fucking statue! What losers...
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago 2
That woke a hundred people up......bet they dont stay awake.
fantasy0coach 3 years ago
Proof of Satan!!!
samten54 3 years ago
There's a sign for you. Evidently gravity is greater than god.
sfehrenbach 3 years ago 3
Idiot. It is a sign that God is greater than Idolators. Use your head, if a pathetic wimp like you can exist in this universe what makes you think that a great God can't? As if you would care.
blithm1 3 years ago
It isn't a sign of anything. Get over yourself. Accidents happen all the time. It happens in a church and it's all 'praise the Lord!' instead of 'hey maybe we should get people to lift the heavy statue that ARE'NT over 70!'. I admit, we're cosmic flees...but I can see us. This cosmic all-powerful entity of yours is a big no show.
sfehrenbach 3 years ago
bitch lost her head...
C0ct0pus 3 years ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Lovely... especially all those ppl going crazy over it!
~Angel XIII~
anangel13 3 years ago 3
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Nice!
Katalyzt 3 years ago
AHAHAHAHAHA Perfect!
Definately an act of GOD!
Off with her head!
MeIoco 3 years ago 2
Oh no, god broke down!!! hehe
Eldelacuchuca 3 years ago