Henry VIII wants Anne Boleyn dead

[EJTDB]

I hate Henry VIII, he was a monster.

[mckfrr]

@TheNuharoo. Oh please, are you serious, the only reason he really wanted her dead was because she couldn't give him a son, and she was too tempermental of him, and always meddling in his affairs, which he believed a wife should be seen and not heard and stand there looking pretty oh and produce sons. Since she did neither, and since he found Jane Seymour (who was more obedient), he wanted her gone, he wanted sons, and if Jane Seymur hadnt given him Edward he wouldve done the same to her.

[TheNuharoo]

"I could be sent to a nunnery"

The supreme irony since she had such a hand in destroying them in England.

[kaustenfan]

As a viewer, I just loved it when he would get so angry! JRM was so fantastic as Henry VIII!

[chocolatefountain95]

Cromwell: Your Majesty, can I have a raise

*Henry pins him up against the wall and threatens him with a knife*

Henry: Say again?

Cromwell: *whimpers*

[ronssexybikerbae]

Poor Anne

[his299]

it was a man's world back then, daughters were their fathers property and were sold into marrige for land, status or titles, then they became their husbands propperty and their only worth was in their abbility to produce male children, who could keep the mens family name going. Also Henry was the king, at that time, they did what they wanted, when they wanted.

[Simone19931]

@CallXenaWarrior

it is a very sad story. and it is also sad that anne talks nice about henry when he wanted to kill here! and that cromwell is terrible too. he knew that he helped to kill someone innocent. yust because henry is selfish. it wasnt annes fault that she didnt had a son. if henry wasnt focused about having a son he wouldnt behave to his wives and daughters like he did.

[Simone19931]

and what promiss did henry made to anne?

[CallXenaWarrior]

@Simone19931 Henry granted Anne's request to be beheaded by a French swordsman from Calais. It's supposed to be quicker & cleaner than the traditional English axe (or rather, its style of hacking people to death like Cromwell in S03) In this scene, the swordsman was late, Henry was getting impatient and wanted to use the axeman instead. But Cromwell, in his guilt for creating those false charges, persuaded him to wait for the French swordsman.

[Simone19931]

and what promiss did henry made to anne?

[Simone19931]

@CallXenaWarrior (uploader)

as far as i know she didnt commited treason ore adultery. did she?

and it is ridiculous that henry VIII could do everything he wanted whit his wives.

and he didn't care for his two daughters. because he took their mothers away.

[CallXenaWarrior]

@Simone19931 Nope, the charges were all fake. the only 'crime' she did was not producing the male heir that she promised to henry. Perhaps, she should not have encouraged Henry to take absolute power that eventually backfired on her.

[ZoeCEubanks]

@Simone19931 he loved catalina more he wanted to save her let her live in a nunnery and still she her daughther but she refused

[Simone19931]

poor anne..

if he wanted to divorce here he could.

she didnt had to dye

and he also took elisabeths mother away..

[CallXenaWarrior]

@Simone19931 ... Henry knew that he can't use the "divorce" option on Anne because he did it already on Catherine Of Aragon. So, the next option is execution based on treason & adultery, which suited Henry very much cuz Spain & France refused to accept her as Queen & Elizabeth legitimate. Her last miscarriage gave him all the more the desire to get rid of her.

[molarmama5]

@CallXenaWarrior

A divorce or annulment would have taken years to hammer out the legal paperwork. Cromwell knew that Henry would not wait! Henry felt his marriage with Anne and all that it cost him, was cursed, she was cursed, therefore a witch. It was faster to trump up charges of treason, and therefore an execution. Anne had to be totally eliminated in her influences.

[TheNuharoo]

@molarmama5 When you take a look at how much she helped him do, I would have to admit that I would have wanted her dead too. Thomas More was executed, Cardinal Fisher, the possible (then) poisoning of Katherine, the destruction of the Catholic Church in England, and the destruction of the convents and monastaries. Then her yammering demands for Katherine to be killed and then begging him to sacrifice his own flesh and blood (Mary) and the rest, I don't blame him for wanting her dead.

[lucyluuuxxxx]

poor thing

[abrblambee]

Anna should of not died...Henry was a ASSHOLE!!!!!!

[ProfessorSSJ]

@abrblambee Maybe but you cant change history. And if this hadnt happened we probably wouldn't know much about him. Anne Boleyn made Henry VIII famous.

[Vasskath]

there!!!! take it, for Catalina!!

[ekateri28]

hm, if you were employed by the King of England and had such a high post like Secretary Cromwell (akin to Corporate Secretary Counsel or Head Attorney to CEO in modern context) except he can't quit (who else will employ him) and if he were to lose his job he would not get a pink slip with a package. Instead he would get his head chopped off. Ouch!

[ProfessorSSJ]

@ekateri28 I couldn't have said it better myself!

[faithoffaith]

you know the reason why henry said to postpone it was to cause anne more suffering and anxiety before her death as she was expecting it and is readyminded...yet that just backfell on her...so unfair i think.

[CallXenaWarrior]

That's probably true.

[svoba4af]

Cromwell should have think about quit his job in the right time. And yeah, this was the moment...

[finnishgirl1987]

He's just sitting there keeping his feet on a table and joking about costliness of the execution, trying obviously act like Anne's death wouldn't mean anything to him. A little too obviously, if you ask me :)

[serendipity990]

Cromwell better be getting some damn fine benefits with this job. If my boss ever slammed me into a wall and held a knife to my throat, I'd be soooooooo pissed.

[nodinitiative]

@serendipity990 yeah and call human resources and find yourself a head shorter the next day :)