pretty not convincing. the least professional piece of history study I've seen. Assumptions based on very vague evidence. Like names that were so common at that time. And the way they go and dig in the tomb - no surprise the authorities weren't happy and had the tomb resealed. Stuff that is irreplaceable like that should not be messed with like that. It's so easy to ruin, contaminate and lose evidence that can not be brought back later if you go about it haphazardly.
all this evidence based on inscriptions of names could be the work of the Romans or the Jews just to disprove that Jesus is the messiah. if you think he just like any human,then why cant any one preach like he did. everything is totally bullish.
It would have been foolish for Jesus to stay anywhere within the Roman Empire. The Romans were hellbent on suppressing any anti-Roman agitation as much executing anyone who was regarded as a messiah or prophet by the Jews.
I think didn't died on the cross but went on a state of suspense(or resuscitation) considering that he spent only 6 hours on the cross. In those times many herbs have been known in the East that can induce a man to a catatonic state. It is mentioned that the apostles saw Jesus in flesh and bones(not a ghost like figure) as the New Testament says.
Sounds far more believable than the story we have been fed for the last two thousand years... Also bearing in mind the missing years of Jesus. Wopuld it not be quite likely he would have started a family during those years? We are talking about a time when marriage was expected of people and especially the religious leaders.Jesus could have hardly escaped it..Of course the traditional translation is that Jesus was talking about his other, most likely it was about his son.....
What this evidence does is disprove the divinity of Jesus based on archaeological evidence as well as rational thinking. Religion has always been used as a tool, from Judaism to Hinduism. My tip is to simply take in what is good about the teachings of Jesus, but don't glorify him to be some godly being. He was a man, with a penis, who led a revolt against the Romans to become the king of the Jews. When he was killed for insurgence, divinity was incorporated to gain fellowship. Open your eyes!
the findings could be true and they could have proven it with all the evidence they want but that doesn't make me an unbeliever to what Jesus Christ said............
Personally, jews are satanists that will do anything to avoid admitting they have actually crucified the nazareen son of god, however 27 holy books were disregarded from the trente concile in the early 1400's regarding these said books are heretic . . . The acts of Philip being one of them, but in all, it is speculated that in the vatican, many more truths are hidden to the followers deemed as either heretic or unimportant by that same said concile of trente . . . Thank you.
@aniket413413 no dude Jesus was first born and i'm pretty sure it would be impossible for mary to have a child before cause she was like 13 when she had Jesus so yah
lol. Love it that it turns out they didn't have all the permissions they needed to do this. Somehow the documentary gave the appearance they waded in like elephants into a fruit shop.
The beloved disciple is JOHN. The one and only one to whom Jesus also revealed things that was not revealed to anyone! The book of Revelation! JOHN 21: 20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” John is being humble not to mention his name & wants the readers to discern for themselves
@GoodyearBandit I agree and I believe in Jesus as the son of God but it is hard to understand the bible and I think everyone's opinion of it is interesting. There are a lot of contradictions so it is all about opinion to this point. The most important things are to follow the commandments and believe in Jesus so that doesnt mean we all kind speculate.
@GoodyearBandit I agree and I believe in Jesus as the son of God but it is hard to understand the bible and I think everyone's opinion of it is interesting. There are a lot of contradictions so it is all about opinion to this point. The most important things are to follow the commandments and believe in Jesus so that doesnt mean we all kind speculate.
what the fuck is this shit? were there bones inside the estuaries? did they test the samples they took? it would prove if and how the bodies were related...there's definitely information here they're not letting out...fuck the media fuck money fuck religion...all i want is the scientific truth of this matter and this hour long bullshit "documentary" didn't do that, how unsatisfying
@MrSkate4weed I won a copy of this, and this video was edited by the channel owner... they DID do genetic testing of mary, jesus, and judah. In isreal, it is illigal to burry a woman in a mans tomb unless she is family. They did genetic testing to see if mary and jesus were related, and they were not, so by isrealic law, she HAD to have been married to be put in there. Then, they tested the remains against Judah, their son... and the dna matched them both. Damn I'm mad thats not in here
is this real ? thease guys look like a coubel of actors and the part we he pulls out the skull has no description? is that another familt mumber? or is this the bull shit it most likely is?
I think Jesus was either not real or a retarded drag queen that made monkey sounds that modern retarded people of the modern era after his death (that is right he is dead and did return 2) if he came back again that would be three, why do they need spooky music or a gravely voiced narrator for something that isn't real???
Does Jesus have his own monster truck???NO...
Satan does...Grave Digger!!!Satan wins!!!
Yahweh and Iceman's is Big foot all others belong to the Chinese or Arabs.
Allah said in quran 1432 years ago in (surah 4.Women)(Verse 157/158) __157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
John 21:20 20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” 22 Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?
Does that sound like he is talking about his son??
@MsFenix7777777 i think you have a good point... it could have been clearer if the DNA of Jesus and his son were looked into... or if they did, why did they not include it in this video???
What I believe: Jesus and Mary Magdaleen were married and had a child. Mary Magdaleen and the child were diciples. Nobody ever got a tablet from God with commandments on it (where is the tablet?)
If any of the Stories of Jesus WERE based on a Real Person, then technically he was just a 30 year old Homeless Man trying to Teach people how to Share.
Now, to all the Christians: Feed & House the Homeless.
this is so gayyyyyyyyyy and fake this shit dnt egsist made up and judah was born of wedlock allah fuck dirty brown buthole of a 9 year old twat buda with a giant ball on his head and a baby in his belly solomon with dresses all gay and stewpid like this and sayen jesus married hs mother and she married joseph and had baby by god shareing 1 women between 3 men im back in horny hooter bootys 2 blah blah :/
And even to this day the Jewish authorities fear the divinity of Jesus of Nazereth. One can only ask why? I speak the truth when I say that as these mysteries are revealed, it as if the crops are ready for harvest. And the return of the Messiah is at the door.
This is The Jesus Family Tomb and Christians should encourage our friends the Israelis to Open the Tomb and properly respect Jesus, the Founder of Christianity.
The scientific evidence all points to this being the Jesus Family Tomb. The conspiracy of deniers inside and outside Israel cannot spin away the physical evidence of the Tomb.
Jesus Teaching is sorely needed in the World now: Love thy neighbor as thy self ,
Christians should challenge "Jesus deniers" keeping the tomb Closed!
This is The Jesus Family Tomb and Christians should encourage our friends the Israelis to Open the Tomb and properly respect Jesus, the Founder of Christianity.
The scientific evidence all points to this being the Jesus Family Tomb. The conspiracy of deniers inside and outside Israel cannot spin away the physical evidence of the Tomb.
Jesus Teaching is sorely needed in the World now: Love thy neighbor as thy self ,
Christians should challenge "Jesus deniers" keeping the tomb Closed!
They would have said look, in the first video you seen skull and bones. Where are the nail holes in the hands and feet of Jesus bones. Jesus lives son of God. Alpha and Omega.
people used to believe every single word of the bible but as time goes on we make more and more discoveries disprooving the bible. its just a matter of time before so little of the bible isnt disprooven that everyone stops believing in religion.
@rose27lindt well u just sounded like a very well rounded "educated moron". And I am just putting that nicely. Why don't you stick to your judgements and theories and I will stick to mine. Thanks very much and BTW you need to make up your test since you flunk the last one.
Everyone biblical follower no matter what your beliefs are in religion should know that Jesus was human, and the only thing that we've noticed or read or seen (from movies, etc.) is of his teachings, his love, his death and his resurrection. Most of the bible doesn't go into detail about every single moment of his life. So what he did on his spare time is an unknown so maybe he did have kids, he had siblings, and a wife. We really dnt knw. Most of the bible is not truth anyway.
hey, you watch too much movies! : ) your just full of maybes and if's. Stick to the not maybe's and if', "the truth" . Men will die and we will all face judgement.The question is are you saved?.Then you can tell it to God face to face that most of the bible is not true. Good luck:)
Jesus was born in 100 BC Not AD. The Jesus Tomb is 1st Century BC NOT AD. The scholars should check their assumptions, this is a Maccabean Tomb, with Maccabean Names. Christianity started with the Essenes of the Qumran Community, see the Dead Sea Scrolls.
We should not make the assumption that the tomb does not belong to the Bible's Jesus Christ just because of biblical scholar's criticism that Jesus did not have a wife, child and brother , ..
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.. because the bible stories itself are long suspected to be political fabrications based on some popular religious figures who died sometime ago (not god).
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I think the real Jesus is just another person who mistakenly think he is a god (in history many religious leaders tend to think that way)
and according to (now suppressed) discoveries of translations (the Huntington Library, Sierra Madre, Ca.) in the dead sea scrolls, the "ascension of Jesus" loosely translates to: lived his remaining days in a monastery.
His crucifixion death halted fore the holy day, his comatose body entombed, then freed by his followers.
This explains why he was sighted many times in the 3 years after his crucifixion.
IMO, this does not negate the wisdom and charity of Jesus' teachings.
I actually feel sorry for religious fanatics who are so closed minded that they could never entertain this being the true Jesus and his family's last resting place... Jesus was human, born of women but very highly spiritual, The church uses the bible to control by fear, always has done, and takes away the truth of Jesus and the most remarkable spiritually connected human soul that ever lived
@liquidchicken..There wasn't a sudden disclaimer that there was another jesus with the same family line living at the same time... Listen to that bit again from 3:25. It was talking about evidence of jesus having a son, and for that not to be true (as the narrator points out) you would have to believe that there was another jesus, not jesus of Nazareth with the same named father, the same named brothers, the same named mother, and the same named wife figure, Mary Madeleine. Not likely is it
what a great documentary, definitely moving, but why the sudden disclaimer though that there could be a possibility of another Jesus living at the same time with the same family members' names? seems to me that they bring you up to this point that you're ready to say that "yes that's my Jesus!" and then suddenly pulls over and says that "hey maybe we're wrong and this is a different Jesus after all", but yes i give them the benefit of the doubt, they've done a terrific job and i salute them
one question though.. if they were all found in one tomb.. why do the inscriptions written in different languages... one in aramaic, some hebrew, and some in greek... interesting isnt it? given they all lived in the same time period and are relatives so to speak..
i really dont uderstand all this crap, can someone explain it to me?how tha fvck after they say oh this was jesus´ son, oh mary magdalen was called mariame, oh this was brother, after agreing it was jesus and comparing with bible, they say its not jesus of nazareth? i really dont get it x_x
@oibl88 lmao sorry but how can anyone get this? it doesn`t make sense at all. Joseph wasn`t Jesus father , maria magdala was not a part of that family. only god knows how many people had the names Jesus Josepf Mary and so in those days. It is a fantasy production for people that need some action in their life i guess. i just wonder that they didn`t found Judas in those graves yet...he will probably show up tomorrow too.....
i think They know something and get some clues inside it they don't even included in the film. they already take some pictures and some evidence inside soo.. that mean they also found something that can be a BOMB if they really found the family tomb of jesus
Newsweek reports that the archaeologist who personally numbered the ossuaries dismissed any potential connection: "Simcha has no credibility whatsoever," says Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem from 1972 to 1997 and personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. "He's pimping off the Bible He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that—what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist.
it would be nice if Joe Zias would comment on the issue/s presented on this documentary and not make a sweeping comment that discount the author or the film maker...
If I had the money, and expetise - I could make a documentary film (and write a book) that would convince most of you that the moon was made of cheese. Appropriate historical facts can be misconstrued deliberately to back it up. Our descendants well into the future will prove once and for all the real truth. Technology will be at such an advanced investigative level - there will be no doubt. Until then, we will have many amusing theories on the birth of Christianity.
hahahah he is another man named jusus. but jews want to wait more. maybe in year 3000 there man will come. lol . go play with other people . we all belong to jesus.
why the tomb's been discovered so late ? The Jews are that stupid ? They can't dig up a tomb ? Or they have to wait until 1980, almost 2000 years later as God KILLER ? Okay ! the first tomb they say it's Jesus, and second tomb they dig up, they say it's Jesus, his wife, and his son. OHH COME ON WHAT CAN OF BULLSHIT DISCOVER IS THIS ? DISCOVERY CHANNEL IS OWNED BY THE JEWS ? And PEDRO, Peter was also buried in Jerusalem? COME ON ! He's buried in Rome.
Fact is talking to anyone who is religious is like trying to lick your elbow. Scientists and theologists have constantly questioned many religions. Much more focus however appears to be placed on Christianity because most nations that have these brilliant networking sites are predominately christian. Religious freaks will always question, mock, or try to find loop holes in any scientific evidence that's discovered, and they will continue to do this without ever presenting any of their own.
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no its not real Jesus had no son this is media propaganda. Trust in the BIble. Does it make sense that Jesus would be on the cross dying for the world's sin yet he had a child had a wife and was having sex? Jesus is pure never sined so for "scholars" to say he got married and had a kid is a pure lie. Don;t believe this lie Jesus is God and God does not have children with humans nor does he get married.
Prove it! Jesus spoke about a loved one int eh bible, but never mention a name to this person in the gospels. You have to understand the Roman Empire before you can understand the new test. Educate yourself a bit more, don't back up your opinion on faith rather then facts. These facts and the Joshau battles and so on are being encoded thorugh out the years. The gospels and myths about the bible are being proven fact or fiction. We are lucky to be living this day in age.
Rockfellor is a free mason. Which is a Satan worshiper i don't believe any of this bull. Satan can go to hell he wants you to go with him to so if you want to believe this then you will join him.
the logical fact is: Jesus really existed, cos science can prove this! but religion is a falsity to humanity! from Christianity alone there's 34.000 derived beliefs!
so humanity is using Jesus as a FaceBook account, every one can join for free with whatever information!
shame cos the majority of the world dnt know jack about the truth. i hope truth will surface to humanity one day and we'll realize we been fooled by our church, vatican, politicians & the Elite ppl above us who use us as sheeps.
Yea Your Right, But At The Same Time It Cant Make Front Page Headlines Because People Would Go Sinning All Over The Place. People Wouldnt Go To Church, People Would Commit Sucide
If any of the Stories of Jesus WERE based on a Real Person, then technically he was just a 30 year old Homeless Man trying to Teach people how to Share.
Now, to all the Christians: Feed & House the Homeless.
OK. Here are a few questions. Why is science trying to disprove Jesus? Have they ever tried to disprove Muhammad ? Why do some people feel so threatened by Jesus? If there is no Jesus, it would make them happy to feel they they were right. If you try to discredit Muhammad you would be in a WORLD of trouble from all over. Just look at the flack the cartoon artist got from Denmark(or somewhere) for that cartoon he did of Muhammad.
your gonna tell me that they sealed it? wtttthh?? dont people wanna know about jesus and if he even existed? its like helllo the answers to all your wuestions are right here and u wanna close it? i think it's ridiculous you dont see anyone saying to seal up the tombs in egypt however they wanna seal this one up. this really pisses me off, fuck the IAA or w.e
People r afraid to know the truth my friand. They say this is fake . If it is , do you think these people would have gone through so much trouble to organize all of this. For what. You can realize that they believe in Jesus , they even spoke of bible verses. The fact that Jesus Christ had a mortal body, that he could be buried like everyone, have a son and a wife scares people. Who knows. What every1 needs to do is ask themselves why the church has been hiding things from us, but all brainwashed
what the eff? they Find Jesus' Tomb, basically all his family, and they just dump the bones in a unmarked ditch, WITHOUT resealing his tomb with all those papers and possibly his "son" in there too without even studying it? holy shit! does nobody even care? GRAB A SHOVEL
Just by reopening that tomb, they could recover Jesus "Son", and all those papers, study them, and actually come to a conclusion. Or look for jesus' family bones they dumped somewhere and compare bone DNA to the bones sealed in the chamber and see if it really was his son. Goddamn
for me, i think we should know the truth to find out the truth about our biblical people by finding any artifacts lies beneath the ground of israel. if this really the lost tomb of jesus in talpiot, why they not study more the bones of yesuah son of yosef? if that the real jesus?
never trust stuff that involves jews thats what i learned in life, and besides they never believed thats jesus was the messiah they are waiting for.they call him the imposter and they want to proove it thats a nice motive.
We should not rush to dismiss all the evidence but rather analyze the evidence slowly and cautiously because if the evidence offered on this documentary was to prove this is Jesus family tomb and one of the ossuaries is that of Jesus Crests this would be the single greatest discovery in the history of mankind. It would also strengthen the beliefs of Christianity as well as give credit to those who help start the movement
on this documentary they state that the'ir is a possibility that the words brother of jesus was added after by the private owner, but their is scientific evidence that the ossury's that were compared one form the private collecter and the one from the tomb had come from the same tomb.
Ok so in other words they haven't found the body of Jesus Christ ? So since his body wasn't discovered that means that he has resurrected and went to Heaven If I'm correct
They should compare the DNA with the bones in the Kashmir Tomb, also with the blood on the Shoud of Turin and the blood Ron Wyatt found on the Ark of the Covenant.
WTF WTF WTF!!! so freaken close to the answer and they stopped them from discoverying the answer. The one that stop are they christian too or believe in jesus too? what the heck... some one go and dig that place up again and reveal the answer. I'm kinda lost don't really get the story.
Well to all of you who would bicker about your own authenticity... its just a Cameron special... never authentic and this time lacking in any entertainment.
To all the self righteous, you dont hold to your faith, you only give it lip service. There are motes in thine eyes.
The hard part about sin is the ridiculous way of defining it.
Apart from the most astounding gaff (twice) i found this un-enriching. The gaff just indicated ignorance.
pretty not convincing. the least professional piece of history study I've seen. Assumptions based on very vague evidence. Like names that were so common at that time. And the way they go and dig in the tomb - no surprise the authorities weren't happy and had the tomb resealed. Stuff that is irreplaceable like that should not be messed with like that. It's so easy to ruin, contaminate and lose evidence that can not be brought back later if you go about it haphazardly.
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Karma & Rebirth means We are ACCOUNTABLE for our actions. We take Responsibility.
Karma & Rebirth means that we enjoy the Gift of Life, over & over again!
Karma & Rebirth means there is no place for a Hell, no sadistic God running a torture chamber
Karma & Rebirth means that We EARN everything. A Hindu must never beg nor take anything that is unearned
Karma & Rebirth means we Hindus earn Praise FROM God! Anyone fool can praise God, but Blessed are the Hindus that aim to earn Praise FROM God!
ramaraksha01 6 days ago
i dont really believe this.... need more evidence!!!!
pinkrachc 1 week ago
pretty convincing, but still... I opt for my faith :)
elrober15 1 week ago
Could be true. There is a strange coincidence that all of jesus family were burried in the same tomb as him...
PoloTwin2 1 week ago
this is bullshit
jestian346 2 weeks ago
all this evidence based on inscriptions of names could be the work of the Romans or the Jews just to disprove that Jesus is the messiah. if you think he just like any human,then why cant any one preach like he did. everything is totally bullish.
heartrobish 3 weeks ago
It would have been foolish for Jesus to stay anywhere within the Roman Empire. The Romans were hellbent on suppressing any anti-Roman agitation as much executing anyone who was regarded as a messiah or prophet by the Jews.
blackarawak83 1 month ago
I think didn't died on the cross but went on a state of suspense(or resuscitation) considering that he spent only 6 hours on the cross. In those times many herbs have been known in the East that can induce a man to a catatonic state. It is mentioned that the apostles saw Jesus in flesh and bones(not a ghost like figure) as the New Testament says.
blackarawak83 1 month ago
will i can say it! rest in peace yeshua
lukeous69 1 month ago
Sounds far more believable than the story we have been fed for the last two thousand years... Also bearing in mind the missing years of Jesus. Wopuld it not be quite likely he would have started a family during those years? We are talking about a time when marriage was expected of people and especially the religious leaders.Jesus could have hardly escaped it..Of course the traditional translation is that Jesus was talking about his other, most likely it was about his son.....
philster611 2 months ago
rest in peace jesus. can you say that?
The9220 2 months ago
What this evidence does is disprove the divinity of Jesus based on archaeological evidence as well as rational thinking. Religion has always been used as a tool, from Judaism to Hinduism. My tip is to simply take in what is good about the teachings of Jesus, but don't glorify him to be some godly being. He was a man, with a penis, who led a revolt against the Romans to become the king of the Jews. When he was killed for insurgence, divinity was incorporated to gain fellowship. Open your eyes!
MitsuoTaniGucci 3 months ago
the findings could be true and they could have proven it with all the evidence they want but that doesn't make me an unbeliever to what Jesus Christ said............
racrafter 3 months ago
Is it just me or the vid stops at 2:59?
sicsicksix 3 months ago
Personally, jews are satanists that will do anything to avoid admitting they have actually crucified the nazareen son of god, however 27 holy books were disregarded from the trente concile in the early 1400's regarding these said books are heretic . . . The acts of Philip being one of them, but in all, it is speculated that in the vatican, many more truths are hidden to the followers deemed as either heretic or unimportant by that same said concile of trente . . . Thank you.
TheAschtung 3 months ago
B U L L S ........ Period.
ndzoko 4 months ago
Thise is the james cameron documentary? Or is other?
JonasVanRetro 4 months ago
did jesus have an elder brother?
aniket413413 6 months ago
@aniket413413 no dude Jesus was first born and i'm pretty sure it would be impossible for mary to have a child before cause she was like 13 when she had Jesus so yah
TheFryingPan16 5 months ago
lol. Love it that it turns out they didn't have all the permissions they needed to do this. Somehow the documentary gave the appearance they waded in like elephants into a fruit shop.
czeshirecat 6 months ago
thanks so much for posting this :)
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The beloved disciple is JOHN. The one and only one to whom Jesus also revealed things that was not revealed to anyone! The book of Revelation! JOHN 21: 20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” John is being humble not to mention his name & wants the readers to discern for themselves
DeborahFaith78 7 months ago
anti-Christ........ but the Christ will come again and the truth will be seen.....
arfanaugustine 7 months ago
It's a cult.
ndrthrdr1 7 months ago
wow this was very well done... bravo... and you guys better search Simcha Jacobovici, a filmwriter and not an archaeologist!
kirbypkawaii 7 months ago
what a shame, SHAME SHAME! SHAME!! Son of god the only person who defeated the sin, now these idots! saying he had a son,
1! jesus had no brother
marry always a virgin
jesus had no sun he does not need the need of life
You guys are in a big hole............
you guys can watch an epic voice telling a story and believe!!! BUT YOU READ THE BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD AND DO NOT BELIVE!!! SHAME SHAME
Forgive them god....
GoodyearBandit 7 months ago
@GoodyearBandit I agree and I believe in Jesus as the son of God but it is hard to understand the bible and I think everyone's opinion of it is interesting. There are a lot of contradictions so it is all about opinion to this point. The most important things are to follow the commandments and believe in Jesus so that doesnt mean we all kind speculate.
nbnf21 5 months ago
@GoodyearBandit I agree and I believe in Jesus as the son of God but it is hard to understand the bible and I think everyone's opinion of it is interesting. There are a lot of contradictions so it is all about opinion to this point. The most important things are to follow the commandments and believe in Jesus so that doesnt mean we all kind speculate.
nbnf21 5 months ago
@nbnf21 God bless you brother,
GoodyearBandit 5 months ago
real interesting documentary.
npaujbais 7 months ago
what the fuck is this shit? were there bones inside the estuaries? did they test the samples they took? it would prove if and how the bodies were related...there's definitely information here they're not letting out...fuck the media fuck money fuck religion...all i want is the scientific truth of this matter and this hour long bullshit "documentary" didn't do that, how unsatisfying
MrSkate4weed 8 months ago
@MrSkate4weed I won a copy of this, and this video was edited by the channel owner... they DID do genetic testing of mary, jesus, and judah. In isreal, it is illigal to burry a woman in a mans tomb unless she is family. They did genetic testing to see if mary and jesus were related, and they were not, so by isrealic law, she HAD to have been married to be put in there. Then, they tested the remains against Judah, their son... and the dna matched them both. Damn I'm mad thats not in here
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*Own, not won
LoneEmpress 8 months ago
@MrSkate4weed lol
khightshospitaller 8 months ago
is this real ? thease guys look like a coubel of actors and the part we he pulls out the skull has no description? is that another familt mumber? or is this the bull shit it most likely is?
simonrcz 8 months ago
I think Jesus was either not real or a retarded drag queen that made monkey sounds that modern retarded people of the modern era after his death (that is right he is dead and did return 2) if he came back again that would be three, why do they need spooky music or a gravely voiced narrator for something that isn't real???
Does Jesus have his own monster truck???NO...
Satan does...Grave Digger!!!Satan wins!!!
Yahweh and Iceman's is Big foot all others belong to the Chinese or Arabs.
JonesArmandoHoward 8 months ago
what happen to the bones,,to test for dna..they said christians afraid to face the truth,,what truth,,
arraceline 10 months ago
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Allah said in quran 1432 years ago in (surah 4.Women)(Verse 157/158) __157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
emadsoker 10 months ago
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emadsoker 10 months ago
The beloved disciple is Jesus Son?
John 21:20 20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” 22 Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?
Does that sound like he is talking about his son??
Jonathan2342 10 months ago
Its bull shit.
This shows the faith u carry.
Shame if u call urslf as Christians.
"We r blessed if we trust HIM even not able to see Him"
evrythng is reveled in The Holy Bible..so if Jesus got married also wud hv been thr..its nt a big deal..
thngs whch r no thr tends to get MORE attntion from FOOLS n less faith ppl..
MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU GUYS WHO DOUBT JESUS n BIBLE.
TheAshleydom 11 months ago
@TheAshleydom
You know, it's hard to take a person seriously when his literacy is on the level of a preschooler.
Thomaspain85 10 months ago
BULLSHIT FRAUD.
CubsBears1984 11 months ago
@MsFenix7777777 i think you have a good point... it could have been clearer if the DNA of Jesus and his son were looked into... or if they did, why did they not include it in this video???
aprasmo1 11 months ago
another bullshit from jews theyy really hate him so much,they are worse than muslims
shy52002 1 year ago
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@shy52002
"another bullshit from jews theyy really hate him so much,they are worse than muslims"
Careful, you don't want to be late to your next klan meeting.
Thomaspain85 10 months ago
life is confusing.
12345soccerguy 1 year ago
What I believe: Jesus and Mary Magdaleen were married and had a child. Mary Magdaleen and the child were diciples. Nobody ever got a tablet from God with commandments on it (where is the tablet?)
illustrate100 1 year ago
@illustrate100
ffs lol,never laughed so much
shy52002 1 year ago
You mean Jesus did it with a lady?!
Oh no!!!
IslamicFarming 1 year ago
@IslamicFarming lol
jrmixtapes 1 year ago
Great show and incredible facts
Alhambrattp 1 year ago
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If any of the Stories of Jesus WERE based on a Real Person, then technically he was just a 30 year old Homeless Man trying to Teach people how to Share.
Now, to all the Christians: Feed & House the Homeless.
YourGodsAreImaginary 1 year ago
omg thanks for this knowledge.....
TryYourLuck009 1 year ago
erm so maybe the most important find in human history a woman has a moan and they close it up again???????????
MrCjafc 1 year ago
you use plain hands to dig through a tomb, hold up a 2000 year old skull, and to shift a whole tombstone to brush off the dust? yeah right....
kueymo 1 year ago
this is so gayyyyyyyyyy and fake this shit dnt egsist made up and judah was born of wedlock allah fuck dirty brown buthole of a 9 year old twat buda with a giant ball on his head and a baby in his belly solomon with dresses all gay and stewpid like this and sayen jesus married hs mother and she married joseph and had baby by god shareing 1 women between 3 men im back in horny hooter bootys 2 blah blah :/
alphamalemindreaper 1 year ago
And even to this day the Jewish authorities fear the divinity of Jesus of Nazereth. One can only ask why? I speak the truth when I say that as these mysteries are revealed, it as if the crops are ready for harvest. And the return of the Messiah is at the door.
oldproji 1 year ago
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@oldproji They are trying to destroy Christianity.
warhawk40 10 months ago
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Sorry guys but this is a Hoax. LOL
Check out /watch?v=1d78xdHLR3Y&feature=recentu
KBrimstone 1 year ago
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This is The Jesus Family Tomb and Christians should encourage our friends the Israelis to Open the Tomb and properly respect Jesus, the Founder of Christianity.
The scientific evidence all points to this being the Jesus Family Tomb. The conspiracy of deniers inside and outside Israel cannot spin away the physical evidence of the Tomb.
Jesus Teaching is sorely needed in the World now: Love thy neighbor as thy self ,
Christians should challenge "Jesus deniers" keeping the tomb Closed!
yawasar 1 year ago
This is The Jesus Family Tomb and Christians should encourage our friends the Israelis to Open the Tomb and properly respect Jesus, the Founder of Christianity.
The scientific evidence all points to this being the Jesus Family Tomb. The conspiracy of deniers inside and outside Israel cannot spin away the physical evidence of the Tomb.
Jesus Teaching is sorely needed in the World now: Love thy neighbor as thy self ,
Christians should challenge "Jesus deniers" keeping the tomb Closed!
yawasar 1 year ago
I'm with you @rose. They'll all see on judgement day.
apparatus39 1 year ago
They would have said look, in the first video you seen skull and bones. Where are the nail holes in the hands and feet of Jesus bones. Jesus lives son of God. Alpha and Omega.
7mentalz 1 year ago
the truth is coming the antichrists are there for all to see they show themselves when confronted with truth!!!
kiaganga 1 year ago
people used to believe every single word of the bible but as time goes on we make more and more discoveries disprooving the bible. its just a matter of time before so little of the bible isnt disprooven that everyone stops believing in religion.
mattxXx13 1 year ago
@mattxXx13 My thoughts also! Science all the way!
maltonbranch 1 year ago
@rose27lindt well u just sounded like a very well rounded "educated moron". And I am just putting that nicely. Why don't you stick to your judgements and theories and I will stick to mine. Thanks very much and BTW you need to make up your test since you flunk the last one.
Scene68 1 year ago
could it be just not some one named Jesus.... it does not say CHRIST
r8drfan76 1 year ago
thank's for posting this kind of documentary.
drachir198647 1 year ago
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the Rockefeller museum? isn't he in on the NWO and the elite? his crew is trying to twist the bible out of context
ok that's more like it at the end ( the last 3-2 mins,)
kimura2Loc 1 year ago
the Rockefeller museum? isn't he in on the NWO and the elite? his crew is trying to twist the bible out of context
ok that's more like it at the end ( the last 3 mins,)
kimura2Loc 1 year ago
the Rockefeller museum? isn't he in on the NWO and the elite? his crew is trying to twist the bible out of context
kimura2Loc 1 year ago
The ending is always about it being fake.
jalopotan 1 year ago
Everyone biblical follower no matter what your beliefs are in religion should know that Jesus was human, and the only thing that we've noticed or read or seen (from movies, etc.) is of his teachings, his love, his death and his resurrection. Most of the bible doesn't go into detail about every single moment of his life. So what he did on his spare time is an unknown so maybe he did have kids, he had siblings, and a wife. We really dnt knw. Most of the bible is not truth anyway.
Scene68 1 year ago
hey, you watch too much movies! : ) your just full of maybes and if's. Stick to the not maybe's and if', "the truth" . Men will die and we will all face judgement.The question is are you saved?.Then you can tell it to God face to face that most of the bible is not true. Good luck:)
rose27lindt 1 year ago
@rose27lindt HAHAHAHA this post made me laugh! A religious Nutter on the loose!
maltonbranch 1 year ago
Yahshuas name was a common name in his time.
yackyick 1 year ago
Jesus was born in 100 BC Not AD. The Jesus Tomb is 1st Century BC NOT AD. The scholars should check their assumptions, this is a Maccabean Tomb, with Maccabean Names. Christianity started with the Essenes of the Qumran Community, see the Dead Sea Scrolls.
yawasar 1 year ago
@yawasar
what?
WraithWanderer 1 year ago
shockin
tonsyidibe 1 year ago
We should not make the assumption that the tomb does not belong to the Bible's Jesus Christ just because of biblical scholar's criticism that Jesus did not have a wife, child and brother , ..
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.. because the bible stories itself are long suspected to be political fabrications based on some popular religious figures who died sometime ago (not god).
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I think the real Jesus is just another person who mistakenly think he is a god (in history many religious leaders tend to think that way)
uuduu7 1 year ago
I believe it's so.
and according to (now suppressed) discoveries of translations (the Huntington Library, Sierra Madre, Ca.) in the dead sea scrolls, the "ascension of Jesus" loosely translates to: lived his remaining days in a monastery.
His crucifixion death halted fore the holy day, his comatose body entombed, then freed by his followers.
This explains why he was sighted many times in the 3 years after his crucifixion.
IMO, this does not negate the wisdom and charity of Jesus' teachings.
michaelwho 1 year ago
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michaelwho 1 year ago
I actually feel sorry for religious fanatics who are so closed minded that they could never entertain this being the true Jesus and his family's last resting place... Jesus was human, born of women but very highly spiritual, The church uses the bible to control by fear, always has done, and takes away the truth of Jesus and the most remarkable spiritually connected human soul that ever lived
strich23 1 year ago 2
@liquidchicken..There wasn't a sudden disclaimer that there was another jesus with the same family line living at the same time... Listen to that bit again from 3:25. It was talking about evidence of jesus having a son, and for that not to be true (as the narrator points out) you would have to believe that there was another jesus, not jesus of Nazareth with the same named father, the same named brothers, the same named mother, and the same named wife figure, Mary Madeleine. Not likely is it
strich23 1 year ago
James and Peter were killed along with most of Jesus other disciples were killed because they claimed to see the risen Christ.
samtorrance5590 1 year ago
what a great documentary, definitely moving, but why the sudden disclaimer though that there could be a possibility of another Jesus living at the same time with the same family members' names? seems to me that they bring you up to this point that you're ready to say that "yes that's my Jesus!" and then suddenly pulls over and says that "hey maybe we're wrong and this is a different Jesus after all", but yes i give them the benefit of the doubt, they've done a terrific job and i salute them
liquidchicken23 1 year ago
@liquidchicken23 Have you seen the response to this DVD "The Jesus Tomb Unmasked" youtube(dot)com/watch?v=h61XOQWKK6o
samtorrance5590 1 year ago
oh man after 8th part been watched i noticed that the symbol in the tomb entrance is the symbol called all seeing eye which the freemasons are using
TheHobieBoy 1 year ago
@TheHobieBoy right?
pcosfight 1 year ago
one question though.. if they were all found in one tomb.. why do the inscriptions written in different languages... one in aramaic, some hebrew, and some in greek... interesting isnt it? given they all lived in the same time period and are relatives so to speak..
otanonline 1 year ago
sealing that tomb closed the chance of getting to know more about something we belived in. the truth remains a question!
lskargu 1 year ago
i really dont uderstand all this crap, can someone explain it to me?how tha fvck after they say oh this was jesus´ son, oh mary magdalen was called mariame, oh this was brother, after agreing it was jesus and comparing with bible, they say its not jesus of nazareth? i really dont get it x_x
oibl88 1 year ago
@oibl88 lmao sorry but how can anyone get this? it doesn`t make sense at all. Joseph wasn`t Jesus father , maria magdala was not a part of that family. only god knows how many people had the names Jesus Josepf Mary and so in those days. It is a fantasy production for people that need some action in their life i guess. i just wonder that they didn`t found Judas in those graves yet...he will probably show up tomorrow too.....
Winterfairy777 1 year ago
wow! thanks for posting this documentary!
19mars82 1 year ago 16
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emadsoker 10 months ago
@MsFenix7777777 if you find out will you shoot me a link. those are great questions!
carllagerfeld15 1 year ago
What did the inscription on the wall of the tomb read?Anyone know?
potophan2006 1 year ago
party pooper
gothicgarden2006 1 year ago
what a coincidence this woman appears at this peticular moment!!!!!....LOLLL...
Nightwithe 1 year ago
Jesus was dogging everything in sight, figures.
aarongohn 1 year ago
Money is the key to the whole business. Christianity is a gold mine for certain type of film makers and journalists.
They wouldn't dare making such documentaries about Islam. They wouldn't have much time to enjoy the profits if they did.
aldsza 1 year ago
this is bullshit. these people think they are indiana jones
dannybrigg 2 years ago
lol,,please stay in canada.
byramtax 2 years ago
all i want to know if these is the real jesus family!!!!!
djtequila06 2 years ago
i think They know something and get some clues inside it they don't even included in the film. they already take some pictures and some evidence inside soo.. that mean they also found something that can be a BOMB if they really found the family tomb of jesus
paulderick16 2 years ago
Newsweek reports that the archaeologist who personally numbered the ossuaries dismissed any potential connection: "Simcha has no credibility whatsoever," says Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem from 1972 to 1997 and personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. "He's pimping off the Bible He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that—what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist.
pixelmixtures 2 years ago
it would be nice if Joe Zias would comment on the issue/s presented on this documentary and not make a sweeping comment that discount the author or the film maker...
mikonido 2 years ago
actually making documentaries is also making big money... the more interesting topic you have, the more the money...
pixelmixtures 2 years ago
@pixelmixtures You are a MAN. An egocentric man at that.
mrtruthify 2 years ago
the hole thing was staged, dont get your hopes up fools
bhamberkiran 2 years ago
So, from 4:00-4:20 would that be a coincidence that their was a different man also named Jesus with a family with the same names as well?
68corvette08 2 years ago 2
I want an Israel where men can say "silence woman!"
just like in ancient times.
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago
facial reconstruction please, facial reconstruction please, if ashkenazi Jews are the "true hebrews" then what is the fucking problem?
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago
right; lets see the facial reconstruction please.
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago
Jesus & Mary were married, check the lost books of the Bible. Jesus was just a man with energy to share.
Sylvia441 2 years ago
What you say is probable.
After all, canonised texts were selected, by group of men who had different ideas, who wanted religious power.
eiizumi 2 years ago 2
nice scripted drama
roninjener 2 years ago 2
LOL. Jesus was a fraud.
JohnWoo 2 years ago
I do believe, this is the truth, that's JESUS THE ANOINTED ONE, JESUS OF NAZARETH.
Why people is afraid of truth.
Religion was the key to set the rules and the Laws, to make sense in life or understand each other.
Today Religion is separating and dividing nations and races.
JESUS die well. Thank to his acts or whatever we're able to see the world with other eyes.
Technology and science is the future of humanity, is a race against time. Don't wait JESUS is not coming back
agubaia 2 years ago
@agubaia Very well said.
shasha1873 2 years ago
If I had the money, and expetise - I could make a documentary film (and write a book) that would convince most of you that the moon was made of cheese. Appropriate historical facts can be misconstrued deliberately to back it up. Our descendants well into the future will prove once and for all the real truth. Technology will be at such an advanced investigative level - there will be no doubt. Until then, we will have many amusing theories on the birth of Christianity.
Tokai951 2 years ago
hahahah he is another man named jusus. but jews want to wait more. maybe in year 3000 there man will come. lol . go play with other people . we all belong to jesus.
ramzi from lebanon
ramzihayek 2 years ago
why the tomb's been discovered so late ? The Jews are that stupid ? They can't dig up a tomb ? Or they have to wait until 1980, almost 2000 years later as God KILLER ? Okay ! the first tomb they say it's Jesus, and second tomb they dig up, they say it's Jesus, his wife, and his son. OHH COME ON WHAT CAN OF BULLSHIT DISCOVER IS THIS ? DISCOVERY CHANNEL IS OWNED BY THE JEWS ? And PEDRO, Peter was also buried in Jerusalem? COME ON ! He's buried in Rome.
Tibly 2 years ago
Fact is talking to anyone who is religious is like trying to lick your elbow. Scientists and theologists have constantly questioned many religions. Much more focus however appears to be placed on Christianity because most nations that have these brilliant networking sites are predominately christian. Religious freaks will always question, mock, or try to find loop holes in any scientific evidence that's discovered, and they will continue to do this without ever presenting any of their own.
youthinasiajarv 2 years ago
I agree
italcop64 2 years ago
the Son of Jesus??? holy s**t is this for real????
Spiden21 2 years ago 2
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no its not real Jesus had no son this is media propaganda. Trust in the BIble. Does it make sense that Jesus would be on the cross dying for the world's sin yet he had a child had a wife and was having sex? Jesus is pure never sined so for "scholars" to say he got married and had a kid is a pure lie. Don;t believe this lie Jesus is God and God does not have children with humans nor does he get married.
Jerseygirl8999 2 years ago
Prove it! Jesus spoke about a loved one int eh bible, but never mention a name to this person in the gospels. You have to understand the Roman Empire before you can understand the new test. Educate yourself a bit more, don't back up your opinion on faith rather then facts. These facts and the Joshau battles and so on are being encoded thorugh out the years. The gospels and myths about the bible are being proven fact or fiction. We are lucky to be living this day in age.
hushg2000 2 years ago
Rockfellor is a free mason. Which is a Satan worshiper i don't believe any of this bull. Satan can go to hell he wants you to go with him to so if you want to believe this then you will join him.
everettham 2 years ago
rather odd the iaa is covering up a random grave of unimprotance isnt it? think they dont want us to know somthing>
littlebull101 2 years ago
the logical fact is: Jesus really existed, cos science can prove this! but religion is a falsity to humanity! from Christianity alone there's 34.000 derived beliefs!
so humanity is using Jesus as a FaceBook account, every one can join for free with whatever information!
shame cos the majority of the world dnt know jack about the truth. i hope truth will surface to humanity one day and we'll realize we been fooled by our church, vatican, politicians & the Elite ppl above us who use us as sheeps.
chessplayer100 2 years ago
Infairness to these film-makers, they have presented a very logical, unbiased, and scientific discussion of this volatile topic.
We just need to be opened about it and stick to what we believe!
sirMarlon81 2 years ago
Yea Your Right, But At The Same Time It Cant Make Front Page Headlines Because People Would Go Sinning All Over The Place. People Wouldnt Go To Church, People Would Commit Sucide
patriciatommy983 2 years ago
da vinci code all over again.... boo!
jamen10 2 years ago 10
@jamen10
the da vinci code was written AFTER this Find.
YourGodsAreImaginary 1 year ago
@jamen10
If any of the Stories of Jesus WERE based on a Real Person, then technically he was just a 30 year old Homeless Man trying to Teach people how to Share.
Now, to all the Christians: Feed & House the Homeless.
YourGodsAreImaginary 1 year ago
OK. Here are a few questions. Why is science trying to disprove Jesus? Have they ever tried to disprove Muhammad ? Why do some people feel so threatened by Jesus? If there is no Jesus, it would make them happy to feel they they were right. If you try to discredit Muhammad you would be in a WORLD of trouble from all over. Just look at the flack the cartoon artist got from Denmark(or somewhere) for that cartoon he did of Muhammad.
ShadowPaw100 2 years ago
your gonna tell me that they sealed it? wtttthh?? dont people wanna know about jesus and if he even existed? its like helllo the answers to all your wuestions are right here and u wanna close it? i think it's ridiculous you dont see anyone saying to seal up the tombs in egypt however they wanna seal this one up. this really pisses me off, fuck the IAA or w.e
BwahahaJen12 2 years ago
Lets buld a hotel on the Sphinx.LOL
123abc805 2 years ago
People r afraid to know the truth my friand. They say this is fake . If it is , do you think these people would have gone through so much trouble to organize all of this. For what. You can realize that they believe in Jesus , they even spoke of bible verses. The fact that Jesus Christ had a mortal body, that he could be buried like everyone, have a son and a wife scares people. Who knows. What every1 needs to do is ask themselves why the church has been hiding things from us, but all brainwashed
thandolakhe 2 years ago
These are lies it has nothing to do with the Chruch or Jesus Christ
Jerseygirl8999 2 years ago
hi look at the symbol it looks like the one on the back of the one dollar bill just look at it you will see it ...freemason..
loc645 2 years ago
what the eff? they Find Jesus' Tomb, basically all his family, and they just dump the bones in a unmarked ditch, WITHOUT resealing his tomb with all those papers and possibly his "son" in there too without even studying it? holy shit! does nobody even care? GRAB A SHOVEL
GrossOnToast 2 years ago
Just by reopening that tomb, they could recover Jesus "Son", and all those papers, study them, and actually come to a conclusion. Or look for jesus' family bones they dumped somewhere and compare bone DNA to the bones sealed in the chamber and see if it really was his son. Goddamn
GrossOnToast 2 years ago 2
jesus didnt have a son.
nkoliva95 2 years ago
how do you know he didnt have a son. god had one,,john 3/16 look it up...
loc645 2 years ago
Cameron did every single thing wrong.
noeleal 2 years ago
for me, i think we should know the truth to find out the truth about our biblical people by finding any artifacts lies beneath the ground of israel. if this really the lost tomb of jesus in talpiot, why they not study more the bones of yesuah son of yosef? if that the real jesus?
siaquaaypogi 2 years ago
they say the church money goes to god but in reality it instead pays the priests bishops and pope their pay of the day
wango911 2 years ago
never trust stuff that involves jews thats what i learned in life, and besides they never believed thats jesus was the messiah they are waiting for.they call him the imposter and they want to proove it thats a nice motive.
thegoldwhisper 2 years ago
greatest discovery in the history of mankind, people don´t want to believe, because they prefer to remain stucked and stupid !
gastaocoimbra 2 years ago
We should not rush to dismiss all the evidence but rather analyze the evidence slowly and cautiously because if the evidence offered on this documentary was to prove this is Jesus family tomb and one of the ossuaries is that of Jesus Crests this would be the single greatest discovery in the history of mankind. It would also strengthen the beliefs of Christianity as well as give credit to those who help start the movement
fuerte1100 2 years ago
on this documentary they state that the'ir is a possibility that the words brother of jesus was added after by the private owner, but their is scientific evidence that the ossury's that were compared one form the private collecter and the one from the tomb had come from the same tomb.
fuerte1100 2 years ago
Ok so in other words they haven't found the body of Jesus Christ ? So since his body wasn't discovered that means that he has resurrected and went to Heaven If I'm correct
JAYCZero 2 years ago
They should compare the DNA with the bones in the Kashmir Tomb, also with the blood on the Shoud of Turin and the blood Ron Wyatt found on the Ark of the Covenant.
sargoth37 2 years ago
WTF WTF WTF!!! so freaken close to the answer and they stopped them from discoverying the answer. The one that stop are they christian too or believe in jesus too? what the heck... some one go and dig that place up again and reveal the answer. I'm kinda lost don't really get the story.
hope2thelord 2 years ago
i am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.... - JESUS
aikko123 2 years ago
it makes sense that they would hide there son makes u think but i thinl this is bullshit ne way
lilrizz87 2 years ago
Bible story book is full of fake stories except some of history . All of wisdom are capable to find lots of error in BIBLE .
feiyu2008 2 years ago
Well to all of you who would bicker about your own authenticity... its just a Cameron special... never authentic and this time lacking in any entertainment.
To all the self righteous, you dont hold to your faith, you only give it lip service. There are motes in thine eyes.
The hard part about sin is the ridiculous way of defining it.
Apart from the most astounding gaff (twice) i found this un-enriching. The gaff just indicated ignorance.
foathkent 2 years ago