this is where size does matter, does not matter who has the right way , the smaller you are the quicker you will sink , the bigger you are the more you have the right way.
Apparently all through SE Asia, and China boats will suddenly cut across your bow to lose the bad luck that's following their boat and it is then supposed to follow yours. Then nothing else matters (days, names, renaming, women on board ) because all the bad luck gets transferred to the other vessel. I guess this guy had a bit too much bad luck...
@HaM3RTnl i think he might have thought that he could pass to starboard which he should so he crossed paths but probably went fuck this and went back across again
The sailboat was motoring so therefor had no right of way. The ferry was the stand on vessel based purely on the rules of the road and also limited in its ability to manuever. I suspect the person driving the sailboat was used to a tiller and not a wheel and made a very big mistake.
I sail a 26 ft. sloop, been sailing for 35 yrs. I often give up right of way when it is mine, in the interest of staying alive. This is usually to sportfishermen, who don't know the rules of navigation, and can't hear their radios over the 1000HP of engines they are running.
Comerical Ships or farrys ALWAY have right of weigh over small boats. ALWAYS, the only case that might find objection would be a boat that cannot move due to lack of wind or mechinical faliure
I would expect the autopilot was working fine and the captain was fixing a drink and then.....As they say, many a dead sailor was dead right about the right of way. Both motoring, and yes, both should move to starboard (subject to the vessel with constrained draft have the right of way).
What is alarming is that in such a situ both vessels should turn to starboard assuming the larger vessel is not constrained by the channel. The smaller vessel didnt even get that bit right and turned to port.doh.
However it happened to me once when I was stand on sailing on starboard tack that some mofo motored across my bow. On reflection I wished I had ploughed into him so i could have sued his arsehole but I had to lose face and tack. managed to scream a few obscenities at him though.
this is what happens when two stubborn idiots are at a standoff. The sailboat was under power so he did not have any right of way. he was just a dick.
No, a large vessel like a ferry under power has the right of way over any small vessel under power (if the sail boat was under sail or anchored, then he would have had the right of way).
Care to point to the USCG regs that say this? Hint, there's no such reg. In fact, it's a fairly complicated deal. For example, if the other vessel is to the right, then it is right, all other things being equal. If the "large" ferry is restricted in some way, then it would have standon status.
The sailboat doesn't have right away because it was under power and was therefore subject to the right-of-way rules of powerboats. He was approaching the port side of the ferry which means the ferry had right-of-way. Furthermore, neither of them took "evasive actions" as called for in COLLREG laws so they are both partly at fault.
Oh pu-leeeeze! "Throw it in reverse and stop"? The sailboat skipper apparently didn't know the rules of right of way, and half the dick wads posting comments don't know the laws of physics and hydro dynamics. Even in full reverse the sailboat would've taken several boat lenghts to stop, and the ferry would have taken about a quarter of a mile!
there is no way a boat that size can simply "throw it into reverse" and stop on a dime wont happen period only a complete idiot would believe it can stop in less than 5 seconds the sails were down he did NOT have the right of way the guy shoulda slowed down his outboard and waited for the ferry to pass the sailboat was totally at fault
see what you don't understand is the area in which this happens...i live where this incident took place and I know the skipper. The ferry could have and should have flipped it into reverse which he was supposed to because off the starboard side of the sailboat is a large shallow sandbar. Anyways I am not going to bitch about this with you because the sailboat won the court case anyways and this happened about 25 years ago anyways.
But how could the ferry stop in time anyways...even if he flipped it into reverse it would still take time for the motor to stop the boats forward momentum and then start reverse
jross31990: Please post some more information about this since you know the skipper and area. Where did it happen? Regardless of your perception of right-of-way, why did the skipper choose to destroy his boat with passengers aboard vs. run it aground into the sand bar you say is there.
The location of this incident happened in the channel heading out of inner Hyannis harbor in Cape Cod Massachusetts. The boat crash happened right by buoy 13 off of Kalmus beach in Hyannis. Prior to these 17seconds of amature video, there had be a minute or so of radio calls between the sail boat (under power) and the ferry boat.
The ferry boat would not give the sail boat enough room for the skipper to safely maneuver through the channel because of a sandbar and jetty off to the left side of the camera. As a last ditch effort, the skipper of the sail boat did try to maneuver towards the other side of the channel but as you can see, the ferry did not slow down, due to the fact they wanted to stay on schedual he said over the radio and therefore this collision did happen.
III. This case was brought to court and both parties were found to be at fault. In the end it came down to the fact that neither the skipper of the sail boat nor the steam ship authority captain wanted to yield to the other party and this is how it ended. There was much more that went on before and after this 17 second video was shot so one cannot assume that they know everything from this video.
IV. As for blowing of horns, this did happen before the amature camera person began to record, this is why you do not her it. As for the previous discussion on the use of slowing down and reverse to avoid this collision, I saw it happen this past summer (2007) with the same ferry company and the captain did slow down and go into reverse to avoid a collision with an oncoming sail boat.
As for this discussion though, I am going to end it here because this incident happened in the 1980s and it is now done and over. The boat has been restored and is now once again in Hyannis Harbor in Hyannis, Massachusetts on Cape Cod. Also, to the person who posted this video, the skipper of the sail boat did sue and won the lawsuit many years ago that this video is not to be used in any sort of public media so please be respectful of the video. As of now, the discussion ends here.
Nevermind what happens in court, a captain is responsible first to ensure the safety of his passengers. He put his boat in front of several hundred thousand pounds of ferry. I've stuck a keel in the mud in Cape Cod before, I'll take that over potential loss of life.
the way it went was that the sailboat was pinned between a large sandbar and the ferry you see there in the video. the sailboat drew about 6-7 feet soo it could not go off of his starbord side. the way the court ruled it was that neither of them had a real case because both of the boats could have stopped and threw it into reverse.
and although other people do not think that the ferry boat could have thrown it into reverse, you are wrong, I actually was out on this same channel last week and the gay head, which is the steam ship authority's freight carrying boat, ran into the same situation and did throw the boat into reverse which caused the accident to be avoided.
@jross31990 im a sailor and i no my rights of way if he was under sail then yes he would have had right of way depending on the ferry's size anyway if he was under power then he did not and would have to have passed to starboard
but to be fair that was moronically stupid thing to do
this is where size does matter, does not matter who has the right way , the smaller you are the quicker you will sink , the bigger you are the more you have the right way.
akaeldin 5 months ago
You can see the pilot of the sailboat jump at 0:09
kefaragon 11 months ago
Skipper did NOT have right of way as he was under power not sail, and even then larger ferry boats have right of way, bigger is better in this case.
mtman69 1 year ago
loooooooooooooooool!!!! this is some funny shit wot a spanner!!
chazall 1 year ago
Mr. Bonney was a very good sailor,
at least that's what he told all of you.
He claimed right of way with a large ferry boat
an became part of the oceanside view.
It was his right, that's what he claims,
written in the London review,
he was right, dead right,
so here lies one that didn't let through.
ChiefOren 1 year ago 2
didn't anyone ever tell them tiller towards trouble?
deegee55 2 years ago
This was an insurance scam that didn't fly because of this recording. The guy in the sailboat was looking for an payout...
nightshadedesign 2 years ago
Apparently all through SE Asia, and China boats will suddenly cut across your bow to lose the bad luck that's following their boat and it is then supposed to follow yours. Then nothing else matters (days, names, renaming, women on board ) because all the bad luck gets transferred to the other vessel. I guess this guy had a bit too much bad luck...
leecau 2 years ago
why did the sailboat first went to left and than to the right.
if he just staying went to the left it didn't happen?
the only reason i can think is it was not deep enough
how can he miss a ferry :-|
HaM3RTnl 2 years ago
@HaM3RTnl i think he might have thought that he could pass to starboard which he should so he crossed paths but probably went fuck this and went back across again
MrPetermackin 1 year ago
Dude, there was totally a solid yellow line there. You can't cross that shit.
danieldeibler 2 years ago
The sailboat was motoring so therefor had no right of way. The ferry was the stand on vessel based purely on the rules of the road and also limited in its ability to manuever. I suspect the person driving the sailboat was used to a tiller and not a wheel and made a very big mistake.
mobyware 2 years ago
@mobyware i think hes a complete tit
MrPetermackin 1 year ago
Here lies the body of Michael O'Day,
Who died maintaining the right of way,
He was right, dead right,
As he sailed along,
But he's just as dead,
As if he'd been wrong.
I sail a 26 ft. sloop, been sailing for 35 yrs. I often give up right of way when it is mine, in the interest of staying alive. This is usually to sportfishermen, who don't know the rules of navigation, and can't hear their radios over the 1000HP of engines they are running.
nezpercenathan 2 years ago 2
Wife: "Honey, we're going to crash into the huge boat."
Husband: "No we're not."
Wife: "Honey, I'm telling you, we're going to crash."
Husband: "I'm a man, I know what i'm doing."
CRASH!!!
99mees 2 years ago
Law of Tonnage
96driftwood 2 years ago
Comerical Ships or farrys ALWAY have right of weigh over small boats. ALWAYS, the only case that might find objection would be a boat that cannot move due to lack of wind or mechinical faliure
postpastx 3 years ago
SHIT is the guy ok??????????????????????
cheerfreakgeek 3 years ago
lol, looks like a suicide attempt. Larger boat has the right of way.
DrTTube 3 years ago
wrong!
pushingoffthefence 3 years ago
What?? Of course the larger boat had right of way. If yiu think the farry should have moved then you should stay off the water!
postpastx 3 years ago
your comment said "larger boat has right of way" which does not always hold true
pushingoffthefence 3 years ago
It may not hold true in every situation but it's a general rule. It certainly holds true in this case so I don't get your objection.
DrTTube 2 years ago
Skipper of this sailboad is a fucking idiot!
heavyPelc 3 years ago
the ferry captain should drop the bow anchor too ahahahahaha
Karletto555 3 years ago
small sailboat? that's rather big..
TheLizard17 3 years ago
I would expect the autopilot was working fine and the captain was fixing a drink and then.....As they say, many a dead sailor was dead right about the right of way. Both motoring, and yes, both should move to starboard (subject to the vessel with constrained draft have the right of way).
kdscott10 3 years ago
What is alarming is that in such a situ both vessels should turn to starboard assuming the larger vessel is not constrained by the channel. The smaller vessel didnt even get that bit right and turned to port.doh.
However it happened to me once when I was stand on sailing on starboard tack that some mofo motored across my bow. On reflection I wished I had ploughed into him so i could have sued his arsehole but I had to lose face and tack. managed to scream a few obscenities at him though.
sharegod 3 years ago
If you could have avoided a collision and didn't then you violated the rules.
mobyware 2 years ago
this is what happens when two stubborn idiots are at a standoff. The sailboat was under power so he did not have any right of way. he was just a dick.
01DINGUS10 4 years ago 2
Actually, that's not true. My understanding is that the sailboat won the case. When two boats are motoring, the boat on the right is right.
However, I agree, that the SB was dumber than dirt. Why take a chance? It was pretty clear that something bad was going to happen.
jgsailor 3 years ago
No, a large vessel like a ferry under power has the right of way over any small vessel under power (if the sail boat was under sail or anchored, then he would have had the right of way).
Cedrusdeodara 3 years ago
Care to point to the USCG regs that say this? Hint, there's no such reg. In fact, it's a fairly complicated deal. For example, if the other vessel is to the right, then it is right, all other things being equal. If the "large" ferry is restricted in some way, then it would have standon status.
jgsailor 3 years ago 3
Idiots
svegh123 4 years ago 2
what an idoit, just another example of o rich guy buying a large but and not taking the proper sailing classes needed to sail skipper his boat.
rigger5150 4 years ago
The sailboat doesn't have right away because it was under power and was therefore subject to the right-of-way rules of powerboats. He was approaching the port side of the ferry which means the ferry had right-of-way. Furthermore, neither of them took "evasive actions" as called for in COLLREG laws so they are both partly at fault.
exon112 4 years ago
Did really any of you think that the sailor could want to kill hiself? It's a very probable choice, isn't it?
minitin 4 years ago
maybe, but that would be a pretty shitty way to die
MidnightFondler 4 years ago
Oh pu-leeeeze! "Throw it in reverse and stop"? The sailboat skipper apparently didn't know the rules of right of way, and half the dick wads posting comments don't know the laws of physics and hydro dynamics. Even in full reverse the sailboat would've taken several boat lenghts to stop, and the ferry would have taken about a quarter of a mile!
monstercatambush 4 years ago
I was thinking pretty much the same thing....
OMM06 4 years ago
there is no way a boat that size can simply "throw it into reverse" and stop on a dime wont happen period only a complete idiot would believe it can stop in less than 5 seconds the sails were down he did NOT have the right of way the guy shoulda slowed down his outboard and waited for the ferry to pass the sailboat was totally at fault
Nmemonicus 4 years ago
tbh i didnt hear either boat signaling by blowing the horn, which is very strange to me,..
roccoiiooii 4 years ago
Did the people live?
dustbunnieboo 4 years ago
to bad you guys are all retarded because he had the right of way and this is no insurance fraud
jross31990 4 years ago
How could you possibly claim he has the right of way?
He has no sails up and is therefore considered a motorboat.
He deliberately places his starboard side in the way of the ferry.
Motorboats give way to the right.
He could hardly be more at fault.
And you might learn how to spell "Too"...
elektrikerphil 4 years ago 4
see what you don't understand is the area in which this happens...i live where this incident took place and I know the skipper. The ferry could have and should have flipped it into reverse which he was supposed to because off the starboard side of the sailboat is a large shallow sandbar. Anyways I am not going to bitch about this with you because the sailboat won the court case anyways and this happened about 25 years ago anyways.
jross31990 4 years ago
But how could the ferry stop in time anyways...even if he flipped it into reverse it would still take time for the motor to stop the boats forward momentum and then start reverse
snowwisher 4 years ago
jross31990: Please post some more information about this since you know the skipper and area. Where did it happen? Regardless of your perception of right-of-way, why did the skipper choose to destroy his boat with passengers aboard vs. run it aground into the sand bar you say is there.
THESPOCK 4 years ago
I.
The location of this incident happened in the channel heading out of inner Hyannis harbor in Cape Cod Massachusetts. The boat crash happened right by buoy 13 off of Kalmus beach in Hyannis. Prior to these 17seconds of amature video, there had be a minute or so of radio calls between the sail boat (under power) and the ferry boat.
jross31990 4 years ago
II.
The ferry boat would not give the sail boat enough room for the skipper to safely maneuver through the channel because of a sandbar and jetty off to the left side of the camera. As a last ditch effort, the skipper of the sail boat did try to maneuver towards the other side of the channel but as you can see, the ferry did not slow down, due to the fact they wanted to stay on schedual he said over the radio and therefore this collision did happen.
jross31990 4 years ago
III. This case was brought to court and both parties were found to be at fault. In the end it came down to the fact that neither the skipper of the sail boat nor the steam ship authority captain wanted to yield to the other party and this is how it ended. There was much more that went on before and after this 17 second video was shot so one cannot assume that they know everything from this video.
jross31990 4 years ago
IV. As for blowing of horns, this did happen before the amature camera person began to record, this is why you do not her it. As for the previous discussion on the use of slowing down and reverse to avoid this collision, I saw it happen this past summer (2007) with the same ferry company and the captain did slow down and go into reverse to avoid a collision with an oncoming sail boat.
jross31990 4 years ago 2
As for this discussion though, I am going to end it here because this incident happened in the 1980s and it is now done and over. The boat has been restored and is now once again in Hyannis Harbor in Hyannis, Massachusetts on Cape Cod. Also, to the person who posted this video, the skipper of the sail boat did sue and won the lawsuit many years ago that this video is not to be used in any sort of public media so please be respectful of the video. As of now, the discussion ends here.
jross31990 4 years ago
Nevermind what happens in court, a captain is responsible first to ensure the safety of his passengers. He put his boat in front of several hundred thousand pounds of ferry. I've stuck a keel in the mud in Cape Cod before, I'll take that over potential loss of life.
THESPOCK 4 years ago
You're a fuckin lame whiner.
" WAHHHH PLZ DON'T USE THIS VIDEO FOR IT WILL TAKE MY VIRGINITY"
Mr. boat collision information officer douchebag
niginit 2 years ago
@elektrikerphil There is a big difference to having the right of way, and being in the right mind!
ChiefOren 1 year ago
jross31990
Why did he have right of way?? its Port to Port mate and his sail wasn't up so he was under power. How can that be the fault of the ferry?
jme1976 4 years ago 2
the way it went was that the sailboat was pinned between a large sandbar and the ferry you see there in the video. the sailboat drew about 6-7 feet soo it could not go off of his starbord side. the way the court ruled it was that neither of them had a real case because both of the boats could have stopped and threw it into reverse.
jross31990 4 years ago
and although other people do not think that the ferry boat could have thrown it into reverse, you are wrong, I actually was out on this same channel last week and the gay head, which is the steam ship authority's freight carrying boat, ran into the same situation and did throw the boat into reverse which caused the accident to be avoided.
I hope this explains all of your questions.
jross31990 4 years ago
jross31990
I would NEVER step onto a boat that you were skippering!!!
jme1976 4 years ago
that was just stupid
go chug a cock
jross31990 4 years ago
@jross31990 im a sailor and i no my rights of way if he was under sail then yes he would have had right of way depending on the ferry's size anyway if he was under power then he did not and would have to have passed to starboard
but to be fair that was moronically stupid thing to do
MrPetermackin 1 year ago
I hope to god you're talking about the farry having the right of way.
xXwhygodwhyXx 1 year ago
Darwinism at work.
WindowOpportunity 4 years ago
That has got to be the worst pilot I have ever seen.
vudukungfu 4 years ago
I believe it was an attempt at insurance fraud but somebody had a camera running!
elektrikerphil 4 years ago
@elektrikerphil if it was a insurance scam would he dive into a farry with crew on the bow or would the boat just be scuttled at sea in deap watter
ruddorthner1 1 year ago
@ruddorthner1 You are right. I guess we'll never know. Perhaps he was trying to give his crew a thrill and it backfired.
elektrikerphil 1 year ago