Being gay is a gene, and I'm sure it is a gene in any kind of animal, insect or whatever, but I can't go along what the Bible says bc I know its not a sin, && I mean if it is and if their is a hell then I guess ill go there! But I can't believe anything that has been written in the Bible, bc just sit and think real long and hard how far that Bible has came thru and been rewritten all thru the years! Js, so anyway I just wanna say I think the Bible is nothing but a bunch of BS! Thanks.
Nate, I didn't understand your point so I'm unsure whether I agree or disagree with you. However, I will add the trueth to the misunderstood bible chapter, Romans 1:18-32 is a JUDGEMENT upon a people of nonbelievers that chose to ignore God and his law. The judgement to change them into savages. Not a judgement against individuals. Blessings are fruitfull, ie having kids, & participating in society. Gay is the judgement, ie suffering in drug abuse, isolation from family / society, and suicide.
this is just another kind of anti-semetism,,,hating the bible is just another way of hating jews,,,hating Jesus is another way of hating jews,,,,,christianity was created by jews,,,orthodox Jews believe the bible,,,,ITS ALL ANTI-SEMETISM
Arguing against Christian teachings is completely different than antisemitism. Reason: The Christian bible does contain the Old Testament (the Jewish doctrines). However, no laws and teachings are followed from the OT unless further stated in the NT. Christians believe that the OT is the laws of an incomplete covenant, laws fulfilled with Christ's sacrifice. The teachings are from the NEW Testament. Heck, the NT even has antisemitism in it. "Hating the bible" is not antisemitism.
This is probably the most ignorant video I've ever watched. By the way, homosexuality in animals does exist. And if they "strayed away from God's natural ways" then why did He let it happen. I thought He was supposed to be all powerful, why couldn't He "correct" it? And I do believe it is sin for a straight man to "lie with another man" but homosexuals have genetic differences that make them different (but not wrong) from other men. Therefore it is not sin.
@ETwoDTwo can anyone read the description? he says "as a form christian homophobe i decided to answer the question according to my old way of thinking."
Christian behavior corresponds to empirical fact, but "being" a christian doesn't. There are just persons who practice a christian lifestyle. Christian persons don't exist. One is only christian because one thinks it. That's why those addicted to christian thoughts & feelings make it a priority to recruit others into their lifestyle, especially children. Christianity is a choice & a behavior. Highly motivated people can give up the myth of christian identity & change their religious orientation.
Our sinful nature wants to twist the Truth just enough to justify what we want, which is always a self-centered focus. Even when we know we should be fleeing, our sinful nature wants to “flirt” with our desires.
There is plenty of scientific evidence for a sharp increase in homosexual behaviour in animals in the last few decades, as well as previously male/female only species born w/ features of both sexe. I was taught this and shown the studies in my bio classes run by my atheist and evolutionist biologist professor, who is well accepted and somewhat well known. Not a Christian. So if there is a sharp increase of this with animals, then why not humans if perchance similar causes affect us?
But this would lead to another problem. If somebody is homosexual because they are affected by environmental/biological factors before birth, then would God condemn them for something they absolutely could do nothing about to stop??
However no Christian can claim any right to condemn, discriminate, judge or whatever (not that they should in the first place without these considerations). What if some homosexuals are actually a different gender to God (if he exists) than we see?
@ernin0000 homosexual animals are apparently a result of overpopulation within the species. Humans are going to have this happen sooner or later since we are WAAAAY overpopulated. No animal should have this many numbers of species on this fucking planet... but anyways, theres so many reasons why homosexuality isn't that big of a deal and in most cases is IMPORTANT to our societies. Plus religion contradicts itself so much that its just so illogical to condemn homosexuality as an 'evil'.
That's what this world is. Poor little gay people, nobody undertands you, boohoohoo.
Bleah, starving children hooked on drugs and being sold on the street. That's the reality, that is all there is in this world, and nothing else any of us should be concerned with, but no...
you are to busy feeling like the world is against you.
You don't know, you pampered, spoiled monsters.
All you care about is your stinking stupid sex-fun. Petty, you know..
@cyberhobo813 shut ur hole ass wipe, like your opinion counts any more than my own. ...And don't twist people's words in to something you can argue against. It's people like you who make this world the fucked up place it is.
@showboyninner You seem like you have a pretty strong opinion yourself there. Like using those cuss words, throwing them around makes you feel strong? Think you are the agressive type hey?
Going to back everybody down with your attitude?
You push around those smaller than yourself is my take on you.
I've been dealing with your type as long as I've existed. Go on make another threat with your foul language, its all you have.
Repent or perish because the end is near, and that is the truth.
@cyberhobo813 yes i have a strong opinion. And so do u. And thats human. But I dont throw mine around at other people, insulting whats important to them. U can attempt to talk down to me from the very top of your holy cross, i know i'm not all the things that are 'your take on me' list, and so do all the people in my life who are important to me. And thats all that counts. Your just another brain washed, naive, hypocritical drone who needs to follow the beliefs of others to feel worthy. Wake up
We may have some misconceptions on each others life-lived based opinions.
I have come to my own understandings though. It is not tooken from the church, school, bullies, it is from what I have seen and lived through during the course of my life.
@cyberhobo813 and there were no threats in there either. A perfect example of what you drones have been wired to do, utterly contradict yourself! Now if you don't mind, I have a life of total freedom to enjoy, see u in hell ;)
You only want to enjoy your "life of total freedom", yeah I see that.
Oh how wonderful it must be. To not care the least about those you step on to attempt making some useless point, I guess you are offended by some of my ealier comments? Please, dwell on it a little longer with me.
Please, I am so easy to control, enlighten me to the error of my ways.
@cyberhobo813 Impossible that you are wrong? I don't care about those I step on to attempt making a useless point? ...Its clear you just want to argue and debate with me about the differences in our beliefs. Precisely the problem, you can't just have your own ways and allow others to have there's. I'm not interseted in changing your beliefs or re-considering my own. I just won't stand for people forcing there's on me. When we all reach the afterlife together, you'll see. And I'll laugh at you
@showboyninner You started this me by making a comment directed straight at me. You don't want to tell me what part of my comments you disagree with? I have my own conclusion to the real reason why.
You are now saying that implying opinion is wrong. That is a laughable irony?
You must not like anything then that you read, see on these sorts of chat boards?
I am not buying that.
You are trying to single out my comments, and now ducking the real issue why,
Nah, this is not the reason and you people know it. The real reason is, yeah I'll say it, is because the lives of children are being destroyed, you may no go back to stuffing your faces in a worldfilled with hunger.
Yeah, I know you don't care, all you care about is yourselves, and your money.
And your food and your lusts and your pride.
Liars, thieves, swindlers, murderers, perverts.
That's what this world is. Poor little gay people, nobody undertands, boohoohoo.
music in the video drowns u out in the video. i think it was a bad choice. it took away from what u were saying. i wanted to listen but it was too difficult.
@showboyninner God never said only good people will be in heaven. murderes, aduluterers, drug adtics u name it will be in heaven. what He did say is we all must be saved. we must accept Jesus Christ into our hearts as our Lord and Savior in order to go to heaven. anybody can go to heaven. Just accept repent and live a life for God :)
@rahh55571 grow a brain and learn to think for yourself rather than regurgitating the bullshit 'simple metaphoric stories' you people call the Bible! ....You religious folk are the root of all evil on this planet. U should all be wiped out.
@showboyninner i think with my heart not my brain. and i no what God tells me is the truth. you have your opinion and i have my truth. no need to get all offinsive about it
@rahh55571 So what gives u the right to call your beliefs truth and my beliefs just an opinion? That's the problem with you people, ...you believe you preach good when in fact all you do is encourage hate and discrimintion. The entire religion, like all, is based upon contradictiction and pregudice and the part that makes me laugh the most is that you are completely oblivious to this as you believe exactly what you have been told to believe by someone else. Pathetic.
@showboyninner God give you a free will. nobody is forcing you to believe anything. and you calling Christians ''you people'' is a stereotype. we're just like anybody else we sin and make mistakes and fail just like anybody else the only difference is we have Gods forginvness of past sins and sins we commit in the present and future. we arent preaching we're witnessing the love of Christ and im sorry i offended you i honestly wasnt trying to but im not going to apolojize for speaking truth
@rahh55571 Please don't apologize because you will make me feel guilty! I'm sure you're not a bad person, in fact you seem like a great person ......but I wish all religions were destroyed! The world would be a much better place.
@showboyninner christianity isnt really a religion cuz sense like u cant do any amount of good to like earn your way to heaven its a gift u no. but i wish all the false religion would be destroyed and people wouldnt not no what to believe. but God does love you.
@rahh55571 because many christians tell me they were never here, despite the fact that we have evidence to prove they were. And yet they believe at the same time that someone watches over us all from the clouds. Sums it up really!! Garbage
@showboyninner well i suppose they were here haha but i no God is real and i honestly would not be sitting here telling you that He is. Im gonna be praying for you though. you may not belive it now but hopefully someday you will :)
@showboyninner Heh... probably not, as everyone KNOWS that "carbon dating and dinosaur bones are tricks from God to send people to Hell", and we ALL know how much God just LOVES "sending people to Hell"... It's part of his innate goodness...
@cyberhobo813 Yes, I have heard that Hell is one's own creation, or KNOWING one is separated from God but not feeling sorry about it, which turns into a vicious circle...
*I* don't think God loves to send people t Hell, but there are a LOT of people who - rather smugly, in my opinion - ("*I'm not going to Hell, cause I'm saved") think that or say that, or both...
@shmuli9 Yeah, I guess sometimes we have to put up with a whole army of jerks. What seems to me to be so dangerous is how they think they are in "the right" even when their actions are so harmful to others.
people like showboyniner on this channel forexample, he doesn't seem to know how strong he can be in comparison to so many others.
There are people in this world who get stepped on no matter how careful we try to be, and if he simply will not believe that then lots will suffer. It's so sad.
Animals eat other animals because humans are so different than animals when they did something God didn't want, he made animals eat each other. Pray tell, since Veganism is a feasible means of living, and has been since that day, why then does man eat animals? Is that part of God being pissed off, like animals being gay? If so, shouldn't we all be Vegan?
Jesus broke bread and drank wine, there was no meat involved. Maybe everyone is meant to be straight and vegan? What a stupid religion. †
O.o i can't tell is he joking or something? i mean he has too be!!! cause other than the fact that everything he said was completaly illogical and made absalotely NO sence... but i mean i knew maybe in the 1800's and earliy 1900's and everthing beiond that point, people thought things like that. but i thought humans had opened there eye's and had started to work things out for themselfs.
Good info. I also am a former bible thumping homophobe who came to good sense. I've heard another answer that can be given by Christians. Homosexuality is a spirit to be passed from one to another and the animal kingdom is also subject to that type of demonic possession as examples of that are in the bible. I think it's amazing since all these things people come up with to hold true to their beliefs inspite of clear evidence is a testament to human ignorance and yet also our ability to reason
Good info. I also am a former bible thumping homophobe who came to good sense. I've heard another answer that can be given by Christians. Homosexuality is a spirit to be passed from one to another and the animal kingdom is also subject to that type of demonic possession as examples of that are in the bible. I think it's amazing since all these things people come up with to hold true to their beliefs inspite of clear evidence is a testament to human ignorance and yet also our ability to reason.
Oh give me a break. An ex Bible-loving homophobe??? With a name like "BiNate82", what we have here is a "bisexual" which is nothing more than a homosexual in training. You lying fags are pathetic. Animals are not homosexual. They respond blindly to instinct and hormones. I've seen horses in heat try to mount cows, for example. They don't understand what they are doing.
@MaryWaterton Wow you're such a role model for Christians everywhere with such hatred towards a minority group and your lovely language "lying fags". If you're gonna make an argument, please at least don't be so pathetic than to resort to bad language. I have a Bible quote for you Matthew 7:12 "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Practise what you preach, or do you turn the other cheek?
@MaryWaterton by ur comments i assume u r not gay, bi , & not quite sure u r human either, but what makes u know all abt homosexuality or bisexuality? r u either? no. i think someone who is gay or bi would have the patent on that over u. ur demeening attitude towards others who are not like you-thank GOD- shows a certain type of asshole. to hate or harrass another for no reason is simply an evil act. u definately dont have the patent on the human race or anything else. if u dont understand,ask.
You can say god is a racist sexist tyrant and that he doesn't exist all you want but think about this if the bible is right and you find out when you die then you have no-one to blame but yourself when end up in you know where. Yes gayness in animals does exist but do we eat our young do we carry them in pouches and hop around? Do we swing from trees and scratch our butts? Second thought don't answer that one. The point is just because animals do it dosn't justify us doing it.
If lions, tigers and sharks just to name three. If they didn't evolve I mean created to eat meat / kill then why then do they have a mouth full of teeth intended to rip flesh?
The fingers in their ears and shouting LALALALALA seems to be all I ever hear when faced with contradictions.
okay i dont believe in evolution because really...but the bible has been misinterpreted you know, which is very unfortunate. but yeah, it doesnt really condemn homosexuality.
ugh i dont c why everyone has to resort to the stupid bible for answer on the way ur ass shuld think, think for urselves, if u dont understand it who cares its not for u 2 understand it for u not to be involved in how others live. mind ur own fucken business u stuck up nothing to do ass faces who like to tell people how to love and who even though u shouldnt meddle in others affairs. like u have a say in someone elses lives. you dont
Religion not only gives people of profoundly flawed character an excuse for being the pathetically flawed human beings they are, but it enables them to call all of their thoughts and actions "sanctioned by God".
This is how slavery was embraced well into the industrial age, segregation and Apartheid were accepted up to a generation ago, and anti-gay crusading is celebrated as the Will of God.
Sorry, but bigotry, hate and other narcissistic traits are from flawed humans, as is God.
According to Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10, I'm sinned. How the hell am I supposed to repent on this?! D: Oh do I stop this habit; it's too good to stop???
@ABoredPerson70 First of all are you Jewish? In Lev 11:2 "speak unto the children of Israel" If not do not worry. Jesus said not that which goes in the mouth that defileth but that which comes out. Best of all. 1 Cor 10:25 "Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake;" and "For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:" 1 Tim 4:4 So enjoy.
@RepresentingTruth Wait, so Deuteronomy and Leviticus don't count in Chrstian teaching? This is too self-contradicting for me. Makes my brain go in circles, you know?
@ABoredPerson70 Oh I thought you would be excited to hear that you can keep eating the way you are. I see that you have not been able to connect things together well but do not fret my friend. Stick around and I will guide you through the process. BTW I had a BLT today.
Listen heretic. Animals are not humans. Praying mantis will eat their mate. The black widow kills its mate. That may be natural for them but not us. Jesus did not have to die on the cross for any animal but only mankind. You may choose to act like an animal but only humans will stand at the judgment seat of Christ. One last thing Sherlock, ANIMALS DO NOT GET MARRIED. Think it through before you answer next time.
@RepresentingTruth /but humans are animals. Unless you're a creationist. But let's not get started in a long conversation, I peronally don't feel like it. But biologically, yes, humans are in the animal category. :)
This video is not saying that it is OK for humans to have gay sex because animals have gay sex.
This video is a response to arguments made by "Christians" who claim that animals do not have gay sex, and therefore it is unnatural and humans should not have gay sex either. This argument is absurd for two reasons. One you have stated yourself, that animals do things that we (even gay people) find unethical. The other is that the assumption is false. Animals do have gay sex.
@GualtieroIestyn Animals do a lot of things. My point is not to compare our selfs with them since we are the only ones that get married. What might be natural for them(eating a mate alive and gay sex) is not natural for us. A dog screws as many other dogs as it can but it is not sinning. We however have a much higher standard to go by. That is my point.
Another homophobe wrote: "What would happen if the whole world was gay?" My response: What would happen if the whole world would stop harassing people for who and what they are?
What would happen if the whole world would get along instead of constantly finding flaws in OTHERS?
What would happen if nobody would give a damn about what consenting adult falls in love with another consenting adult?
What would happen if the world was free of bigots and homophobes?
God created man, not the sin. The behavior that man exercises is of his own temptation. We know that homosexuality is a sin because we see the consequences (drug use, AIDS, depression, suicide) that God punishes those who choose that sort of lifestyle. God created a perfect world until man started to become defiant.
"Homosexuals" didn't appear in the KJV. And it would not appear for MANY centuries until its printing in the "Revised Standard Verson" in 1946. A person of EITHER orientation or gender could be any of the things listed in 1 Cor. 6:9-10. Stating ALL homosexuals were neccessarily included in the passage might well be presuming too much.
@clay56 Yes: the term for homosexuality was not in the original scriptures, because they didn't even have a name for that type of behaviour. rather they had to explain it as...."nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind."
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
@TheBoogieman7 Because we live in a theocracy....of course.... and because the bible is not a bad source of info.... truly you are a paragon of wit and inteligence...
@DevastationNazo Thanks for the compliment. I hope all Christians reading my comments will realize that we are almost out of time to work out our salvation in the perfection of Holiness.
@1369Tara Hmmm? I do not remember complimenting you.... I remember sending a VERY sarcastic compliment to TheBoogieman7, which he seems to have ignored, but I do not remember complimenting anyone.
@DevastationNazo I was using my daughters PC to respond to you. She is a 26 year old beautiful woman. I gave her life by having sex with a woman. Something you queers won't ever be able to do.
@TheBoogieman7 Ah, so the fact that I am in favor of basic human rights makes me a, to quote, "queer". Here, let me point out the flaw in that logic: By your logic old people and sterile people, no matter which gender, cannot marry. Please tell me something that actualy makes sense next time.
@DevastationNazo Thank's for that compliment. I always love it when someone makes me get out my dictionary. Especially when I learn a word that is worth knowing. Sorry it took so long to reply. My PC crashed and burned right after I poted here. Any wisdom I have is from believing the Bible or from disbelieving it and learning from that mistake. Pain is a harsh way to learn. We can learn from our on pain or from the examples of other's mistakes and the pain it caused them.
@TheBoogieman7 Its.... How.... I was being sarcastic. It was not a compliment! I commented on the fact that your only evidence was from the bible, which is so open to interpretation, you only make youself worse! Here, let me copy-paste it: Because we live in a theocracy... of course... and because the bible is not a bad source of info... truly you are a paragon of wit and inteligence... Just take out the 'nots' and you will get what I was saying.
@DevastationNazo OK so you were being a jerk? Sarcasm is the lowest form of humore. I never respond to Jerks. I thought you were a Christain. My mistake Have a nice life, and may you get where you are going !00 Billion years before Satan knows his date is there for his pleasure.
@TheBoogieman7 Um... what were you saying there? I couldn't understand, what with you somhow saying ! in place of 1. Not that any of that made sense. I mean, so I'm not christian, does that make me a jerk? Also: Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet pot. You were kinda being a homophobe there. And your only evidence is from the bible, which is open to interpretation. And what was that last sentance supposed to mean, might I ask?
@DevastationNazo Basically it means; You are letting the God of this world Satan, Lucifer, The Devil, screw you out of your chance for eternal life. And an eternity in hell will be your fate if you don't change (repent). The Bible is not open for interpretation! It say's "the word of GOD is of no private interpretation." I am not homophobe my friend. You are a jerk because when people reject the Bible as the source of true widom, they become of a debased mentality (a Jerk)
@TheBoogieman7 Yes! Yes you idiot, the bible IS open to interpretation! I asume you don't think slavery is right? I'm also asumeing you prefer not to practice an eye for an eye? I'm sure you don't think that the bible justifies rasism? 'Cause its been used to justify all of those. And thank you for bringing up hell! I hoped you were one of the nice ones, the ones who don't actualy believe that god locks his children in the basement and tortures them for not loving him.
@DevastationNazo We live in a Republic, not a Theocracy. Remember what you were brainwashed to do in (government) public schools? (Worship the State instead of God.) The pleage of Allegence to "the Republic for which it Stands" Wake up my friend. It's a fine thing to have Brotherly Love. but it's not true brotherly love when men are having sex with eachother. Ask God to put a right Spirit in you and He will show you how detestable it is to Him.
@TheBoogieman7 And no. EVERY GOD DAMNED THING YOU HAVE SAID THUS FAR, HAS INVOLVED THE DAMNED BIBLE! You cannot use the bible as evidence. It. Is. Not. Evidence! Many, many people do not believe it! Just because you do does not make you right! The burden of truth is on you, to prove through non-biblical means that homosexuality is wrong, and that they do not deserve basic human rights.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
Mature Christians know the Bible is the infallible word of God; inspired by the Holy Spirit and has not one letter or punctuation mark in it that was not specifically ordained by God. So, in other words If it's written in the Bible, it don't matter who penned the epistle. It was God Talking through that person. A mature Christian knows you take it all as Gospel. You can't dismiss the parts your uncomfortable with.
Christians, Romans 3:19 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law" Unless you are addressing Bronze Age, Hebrew gays there is no reason for them to listen to you or to obey your archaic, irrelevant Law. 1Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?" Unless you have authority that Paul lacked, you have no business judging anyone outside your archaic, irrelevant religion.
This homosexual activity of animals that occurs is about instinctively showing dominance and not about a sexual feeling towards that same sex animal. Although humans are mammals, unlike animals we are not slaves to our instincts and we have the power to understand and choose freewill.
Well, there are penguins that stay with their same sex partner their whole lives, they show all the same types of affections that the heterosexual penguins do. And it's not a dominance thing.
@funk7000 Well Said but, your wasting your breath The queers have been given over to a debased mentality. (the Demons) They can never admit their behavior is wrong because the Holy Spirit is the source of a conscience. When the Holy Spirit is grieved by the unrepentant , repeated sins it will eventually leave that person and they will become host to 7more unclean Spirits much worse then the demon that is causing them to be queer. Demons operate in Gangs of 8. They get in when we let them in.
- "Homosexuality is a choice. Where does that happen in nature?"
- (Present tons of studies and evidence.)
- "So we're supposed to act like animals do? Is that what you're saying?"
- (Sigh...)
Also, just to respond to some of the older comments on here. Before you start spouting off what you think God did or didn't forbid, you might want to think about where he put the male prostate (essentially the male g-spot). I'm just sayin...
How can anyone beleive in one single religion I dont know. there are muslims, budhists, Christians, Jews each litle group beleivng their view is true infact not beleiveng but knowing their own religions beleifs are true. step out your religion and see the truth you are merely beloing to a religious beleif group altho to u its true and nothing else is
binate 82, if what you say is true and this is how religious types think. then it's scary, very scary, that 'intelligent' people can believe that. and more scary that some of them are in government.
God doesn't hate , his very existence is to love us ALL. And if you are a true child of God you too will love our fellow brothers and sisters and spread love, not hate, no matter what sin our brothers and sisters commit we cannot judge, but instead we must love them unconditionally.
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment ?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.
I am a homosexual man..I do not know why, it's all I am since I remember, before I was faced with the evils of society and religion that made my existence a terrible one, but now I am over it, I was born a nice and good human being and that's what I am...I am a homosexual good human being..FUCK HOMOPHOBIA....FUCK RELIGIONS THAT DISCRIMINATE...many teens comit suicide because of that..be a good human being respect nature.
@isabelino16 It's not that Christians are concerned with what you are doing with your genitalia; They are concerned with your immortal soul. God can change a homosexual from within, by the transformation effected by the Holy Spirit received when you lay down your rebellion and admit what your doing is wrong. (repentance).
We are creatures of habit. behavior is a learned process. If you want to change God will always provide a way out for you so you are not tempted in your moment of weakness.
@isabelino16 I am not a homosexual, but I have friends and family who are... I love them very much. Gay equality is the modern day civil rights movement. Peace friend.
@isabelino16 True Christians don't hate gay people. I'm an example of a Christian that doesn't hate gays. Check out the GayChristianNetwork's YouTube channel for more information on this
All religions have two sides and types of people in it.One side of each religion is judgmental,hateful,argumentati ve, non-understanding,impatient,qu ick tempered,and unexciting of others differences and ready to kill and send people to hell. The other is loving,understanding,slow to anger, patient, and they let their religion be the source of understanding of the differences and imperfection of others. As God intended religion to serve as a source of unity, not discord!
Christianity is against nature, It is a superstitious belief. Christians are mentally sick, believing in an imaginary god, treating a fairy tales and myths as history. Christians pedophize their children mentally. How one believe in a mountain god raping a 13-year-old virgn, a sadistic volcano deity who demanded human sacrifice, wiped out all humans including babies with a great flood? Sick people have sick beliefs.
@FyFhFr25 yes, Christianity is against "nature" It is "natural" to lie, to steal, to harm your fellow man, to do drugs, to drink, to cheat on your spouse, and to hate, yet in all of these things, Jesus offers complete victory. You are mixing pagan nonsense with the one true and living God. Get a Bible, and be a little more humble.
Well the opposites of all the bad things you mention are natural too. And these ethical guidlines are so much older than christianity, they did absolutely not START with christianity or biblical history. Christianity is against nature in the sense that it closes the mind to the obvious truths revealed in modern times while rewarding those who follow 2000 year old reciepies for how to live life without asking any questions or caring if it's actually really true. Faith.
How does pointing out what Christians claim in their ignorance make someone bad?
Is it bad to show how sick and evil Christianity is and has been?
Is it sick and evil to say the inquisitions which lasted over 700 YEARS. Will NEVER be permitted to happen again!
Seems to me a lot of Christians would like to be able to torture those who do not bow to their sadistic bible based mental illness. Yet they want to profess to be a religion of love.
@PastorIblis believe me deep down, in most Christians hearts, if they had a chance to force and torture all who do not bow down to their almighty book to do so... they gladly would.
@stephjh2006 the church? as in MOST pastors,priests, the majority of Christianity? forgive me if im wrongly viewing this observation but the majority of people who call themselves Christians are some of th vilest people ever. the church has started some pretty horrible things, and after being proven wrong they always step away and say it wasnt them.Christianity as in the majority of Christians would be the church. REAL Christians follow Christ and believe in love not hate.
@magyksthelimit No the Church is those who have faith and trust in Jesus Christ and follow his teachings. As He himself said "you are my disciples if you obey my commands" What was His commands? Love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour also to name a couple. To say that the institutional church and those who pay lip service to Christianity is the Church is to miss the true point in the Bible and Christ. The greatest deception is the counterfeit.
@PastorIblis Remember though that the inquisition also tortured the Christians and burned those who were in the Church at the stake. Infact the greatest persecutors of Christians have been the power hungry "church".
So the true church has never looked to torture anyone. do all Americans want to kill Iraqis because they want money? Similar to George Bush killing people for money but saying it was for defending a nation is the same as the "church" killing people for money but saying for God
You would have a point except so many Christians have the inquisition mindset. That being if you do not believe and think Exactly as they say then they are saying about someone going to Hell Forever.
The idea that you can just believe something because someone threatens you with torture means you think you could believe in invisible flying pink monkey's if it was believe this or be burned alive forever.
Threats of torture are not an effective way to get someone's love!
@PastorIblis for the most part the human mind works in a way that you can receive a specific amount of torture. then the mind 'breaks' and your subconscious takes over and then it grasps at any given 'branch' to save itself, ie you.
Exactly which means a person will tell the one torturing them anything they want to hear to end the torture. It doesn't matter if what the person wants to hear is total bullshit and the one being tortured will never really believe it.
Which means it is totally unreliable to use this to try and get information.
The idea of endless torture means there would come a point where the person would go completely crazy and could even start to enjoy the pain.
@PastorIblis It's not the lack of belief that means God sends people to hell. That would be unjust. Every human being at judgement will not feel unfairly punished. It is not a lack of faith that sends people to hell but sin that sends them there, as how can God possibly allow sin into heaven? I know this might not be much of a clarification to you but it's an important distinction. Faith(trust) is saying I will allow God to fix the problem and not try to fix it myself, because you can't
@stephjh2006 Sin is bullshit and i will prove it! Exodus 20:17 is a commandment about coveting PROPERTY! In that Commandment a WIFE and Male and Female SLAVES are listed as a man's PROPERTY! DO YOU THINK WOMEN ARE PROPERTY? Should we remove all womens rights because they are nothing but PROPERTY? Not killing, Lying and Stealing pertain to life in OUR SOCIETY! Not to an afterlife! MORON! Not one of the ten commandments pertain to an Afterlife! NOT ONE!
@PastorIblis "Threats of torture are not an effective way to get someone's love!"
God isn't threatening. This is a simple miss reading. If I had cancer and the doctor told me I had it and will die, he is not threatening me now is he. If he offers me treatment he is not using torture to convince me of the treatment. I would take the treatment because of the realisation of my situation, the doctor is independent of my predicament. People seem to blame God for our predicament???
This God said let my people go. When he didn't get his way TORTURE was his answer!
Over and OVER this God used the same tactic. Make demands then when he doesn't get his way TORTURE! And his grand finale was the DEATH'S of all first born CHILDREN!
CHILDREN!
Not the ones that wouldn't bow to his sadistic will but FUCKING CHILDREN!
@stephjh2006 I agree with you. Many accuse God of being a 'bully', but the last time I checked, God is the Supreme Being and the one who makes the rules and knowledge, not us. That means, its His rules, His powers, His way. God warned the Egyptians plenty of times, and note, the ancient Egyptians denied God's existence and worshipped their own false deities. After the first nine plagues, he was being fair in trying to show the Pharaoh that the Pharaoh can stop this if he just let the Jews go.
@PastorIblis sorry I know this was 2 months ago, but I wanted to reply. The world looks at those who profess Christ, but live counter to Him.
With regard to saying those who don't believe will go to hell and comparing this to inquisition is unfair. 1st the Christian is not condemning to hell. Rather warning of hell.
2nd Hell is not just because you don't believe, "even demons believe"
3rd Hell is a MUST if there is anything after death, I can explain why if you ask me
It is not an unfair comparason given that was the belief which was held during the Inquisitions and for over 700 Years Christians would brutally torture those that were accused of being a witch or heretic. A heretic btw is someone with ideas or views contrary to the Church!
In short Thought Crime! Oh you don't Think as we say well then we get to brutally torture you!
Your idea of a God is no different then you.
In fact your God behaves Worse then any human ever has!
@PastorIblis The Bible does not excuse people to brutally torture people for not believing. The Christian message is one of salvation from not condemnation to. Christians were also tortured as heretics during the inquisition remember. The inquisition shows the dangers of man using religion to oppress another, it was the same with atheism in Stalin’s Russia, Mao's China and Pot's Cambodia.
It's man's brutality that looks to torture to obtain power.
Exactly, the church has a bad history of using that which it wanted to justify its own means. This is mankind's brutality.
No fair trial, just accusation. Not very fair.
They still do in many cases. But what has the church been instructed to do? We know that mercy was always important. I for one would not want to see a single hair harmed on another. A Christian should look to Christ as an example and live as he lived.
It is a well known fact that a child will behave in ways reflective of how their parent behaves. Given that fact this belief in a Hell being necessary means you seriously think that if someone has different thoughts then you that it is necessary to torture them simply because they reject your fantasies!
Yet you want to claim to be a religion of Love or Mercy.
Hell is Scientificly impossible as well as morally and ethicly brankrupt!
Being gay is a gene, and I'm sure it is a gene in any kind of animal, insect or whatever, but I can't go along what the Bible says bc I know its not a sin, && I mean if it is and if their is a hell then I guess ill go there! But I can't believe anything that has been written in the Bible, bc just sit and think real long and hard how far that Bible has came thru and been rewritten all thru the years! Js, so anyway I just wanna say I think the Bible is nothing but a bunch of BS! Thanks.
ligee1993 5 days ago
Nate, I didn't understand your point so I'm unsure whether I agree or disagree with you. However, I will add the trueth to the misunderstood bible chapter, Romans 1:18-32 is a JUDGEMENT upon a people of nonbelievers that chose to ignore God and his law. The judgement to change them into savages. Not a judgement against individuals. Blessings are fruitfull, ie having kids, & participating in society. Gay is the judgement, ie suffering in drug abuse, isolation from family / society, and suicide.
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MARCH 2010 UPDATE: "GAY" GENE FOUND!
Here's a video you should watch here on you tube:
The 'Gay Brain' Explained - Louann Brizendine
Also just google:
GAY BRAIN
And you're going to see all the recent discovery that gay man's brain is like a females and lesbians brains are like males.
Scientifictly proven, that is NOT A CHOICE NOR A SIN, you are who you are since the night your parents... well... you know... and here we are!
NuLaifMusic 2 months ago
But evolution was never proven. It was an accepted theory. Now adaptation is real.
murakislaveholder 7 months ago
this is just another kind of anti-semetism,,,hating the bible is just another way of hating jews,,,hating Jesus is another way of hating jews,,,,,christianity was created by jews,,,orthodox Jews believe the bible,,,,ITS ALL ANTI-SEMETISM
candiceevans1 7 months ago
@candiceevans1
Arguing against Christian teachings is completely different than antisemitism. Reason: The Christian bible does contain the Old Testament (the Jewish doctrines). However, no laws and teachings are followed from the OT unless further stated in the NT. Christians believe that the OT is the laws of an incomplete covenant, laws fulfilled with Christ's sacrifice. The teachings are from the NEW Testament. Heck, the NT even has antisemitism in it. "Hating the bible" is not antisemitism.
709lulio907 6 months ago
Animals don't read the Bible! They are not meant to be moral creatures! If you can read this then you know what I mean!
hudna1 7 months ago
God never wanted to force us to love him, but God is always waiting with open arms when many decide to change with his help.
isabelle2436 7 months ago
Well im usually on youtube late at night, i did read the description, i guess i just didnt catc that. im sorry.
ETwoDTwo 8 months ago
This is probably the most ignorant video I've ever watched. By the way, homosexuality in animals does exist. And if they "strayed away from God's natural ways" then why did He let it happen. I thought He was supposed to be all powerful, why couldn't He "correct" it? And I do believe it is sin for a straight man to "lie with another man" but homosexuals have genetic differences that make them different (but not wrong) from other men. Therefore it is not sin.
ETwoDTwo 8 months ago
@ETwoDTwo can anyone read the description? he says "as a form christian homophobe i decided to answer the question according to my old way of thinking."
WowUrFcknHxC 8 months ago
You are a fail sir!
metatropolis 8 months ago 2
Christian behavior corresponds to empirical fact, but "being" a christian doesn't. There are just persons who practice a christian lifestyle. Christian persons don't exist. One is only christian because one thinks it. That's why those addicted to christian thoughts & feelings make it a priority to recruit others into their lifestyle, especially children. Christianity is a choice & a behavior. Highly motivated people can give up the myth of christian identity & change their religious orientation.
MySocksSmell2 9 months ago
Yeppers - then when I tell them I am bisexual and Christian - their head explodes...
AxeMoose 9 months ago
Our sinful nature wants to twist the Truth just enough to justify what we want, which is always a self-centered focus. Even when we know we should be fleeing, our sinful nature wants to “flirt” with our desires.
exbf22 10 months ago
There is plenty of scientific evidence for a sharp increase in homosexual behaviour in animals in the last few decades, as well as previously male/female only species born w/ features of both sexe. I was taught this and shown the studies in my bio classes run by my atheist and evolutionist biologist professor, who is well accepted and somewhat well known. Not a Christian. So if there is a sharp increase of this with animals, then why not humans if perchance similar causes affect us?
ernin0000 10 months ago
@ernin0000
But this would lead to another problem. If somebody is homosexual because they are affected by environmental/biological factors before birth, then would God condemn them for something they absolutely could do nothing about to stop??
However no Christian can claim any right to condemn, discriminate, judge or whatever (not that they should in the first place without these considerations). What if some homosexuals are actually a different gender to God (if he exists) than we see?
ernin0000 10 months ago
@ernin0000 homosexual animals are apparently a result of overpopulation within the species. Humans are going to have this happen sooner or later since we are WAAAAY overpopulated. No animal should have this many numbers of species on this fucking planet... but anyways, theres so many reasons why homosexuality isn't that big of a deal and in most cases is IMPORTANT to our societies. Plus religion contradicts itself so much that its just so illogical to condemn homosexuality as an 'evil'.
Takiado 10 months ago
@Takiado
There are other causes as well, various chemicals acting as hormone disruptors, for one, I believe;
Anyway. Interesting stuff.
ernin0000 10 months ago
Liars, thieves, swindlers, murderers, perverts.
That's what this world is. Poor little gay people, nobody undertands you, boohoohoo.
Bleah, starving children hooked on drugs and being sold on the street. That's the reality, that is all there is in this world, and nothing else any of us should be concerned with, but no...
you are to busy feeling like the world is against you.
You don't know, you pampered, spoiled monsters.
All you care about is your stinking stupid sex-fun. Petty, you know..
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
@cyberhobo813 shut ur hole ass wipe, like your opinion counts any more than my own. ...And don't twist people's words in to something you can argue against. It's people like you who make this world the fucked up place it is.
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner You seem like you have a pretty strong opinion yourself there. Like using those cuss words, throwing them around makes you feel strong? Think you are the agressive type hey?
Going to back everybody down with your attitude?
You push around those smaller than yourself is my take on you.
I've been dealing with your type as long as I've existed. Go on make another threat with your foul language, its all you have.
Repent or perish because the end is near, and that is the truth.
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
@cyberhobo813 yes i have a strong opinion. And so do u. And thats human. But I dont throw mine around at other people, insulting whats important to them. U can attempt to talk down to me from the very top of your holy cross, i know i'm not all the things that are 'your take on me' list, and so do all the people in my life who are important to me. And thats all that counts. Your just another brain washed, naive, hypocritical drone who needs to follow the beliefs of others to feel worthy. Wake up
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner Okay, I hear you.
We may have some misconceptions on each others life-lived based opinions.
I have come to my own understandings though. It is not tooken from the church, school, bullies, it is from what I have seen and lived through during the course of my life.
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
@cyberhobo813 and there were no threats in there either. A perfect example of what you drones have been wired to do, utterly contradict yourself! Now if you don't mind, I have a life of total freedom to enjoy, see u in hell ;)
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner Why that last comment?
You think I am wrong for something I said?
Impossible.
A drone you called me? A mindless drone...
You only want to enjoy your "life of total freedom", yeah I see that.
Oh how wonderful it must be. To not care the least about those you step on to attempt making some useless point, I guess you are offended by some of my ealier comments? Please, dwell on it a little longer with me.
Please, I am so easy to control, enlighten me to the error of my ways.
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
@cyberhobo813 Impossible that you are wrong? I don't care about those I step on to attempt making a useless point? ...Its clear you just want to argue and debate with me about the differences in our beliefs. Precisely the problem, you can't just have your own ways and allow others to have there's. I'm not interseted in changing your beliefs or re-considering my own. I just won't stand for people forcing there's on me. When we all reach the afterlife together, you'll see. And I'll laugh at you
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner You started this me by making a comment directed straight at me. You don't want to tell me what part of my comments you disagree with? I have my own conclusion to the real reason why.
You are now saying that implying opinion is wrong. That is a laughable irony?
You must not like anything then that you read, see on these sorts of chat boards?
I am not buying that.
You are trying to single out my comments, and now ducking the real issue why,
Are you even able to face the truth?
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
Nah, this is not the reason and you people know it. The real reason is, yeah I'll say it, is because the lives of children are being destroyed, you may no go back to stuffing your faces in a worldfilled with hunger.
Yeah, I know you don't care, all you care about is yourselves, and your money.
And your food and your lusts and your pride.
Liars, thieves, swindlers, murderers, perverts.
That's what this world is. Poor little gay people, nobody undertands, boohoohoo.
Bleah, starving children h
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
music in the video drowns u out in the video. i think it was a bad choice. it took away from what u were saying. i wanted to listen but it was too difficult.
dorianstark 1 year ago
Heaven will be a place without Christians. Crazy, fucked up, evil people!
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner God never said only good people will be in heaven. murderes, aduluterers, drug adtics u name it will be in heaven. what He did say is we all must be saved. we must accept Jesus Christ into our hearts as our Lord and Savior in order to go to heaven. anybody can go to heaven. Just accept repent and live a life for God :)
rahh55571 1 year ago
@rahh55571 grow a brain and learn to think for yourself rather than regurgitating the bullshit 'simple metaphoric stories' you people call the Bible! ....You religious folk are the root of all evil on this planet. U should all be wiped out.
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner i think with my heart not my brain. and i no what God tells me is the truth. you have your opinion and i have my truth. no need to get all offinsive about it
rahh55571 1 year ago
@rahh55571 So what gives u the right to call your beliefs truth and my beliefs just an opinion? That's the problem with you people, ...you believe you preach good when in fact all you do is encourage hate and discrimintion. The entire religion, like all, is based upon contradictiction and pregudice and the part that makes me laugh the most is that you are completely oblivious to this as you believe exactly what you have been told to believe by someone else. Pathetic.
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner God give you a free will. nobody is forcing you to believe anything. and you calling Christians ''you people'' is a stereotype. we're just like anybody else we sin and make mistakes and fail just like anybody else the only difference is we have Gods forginvness of past sins and sins we commit in the present and future. we arent preaching we're witnessing the love of Christ and im sorry i offended you i honestly wasnt trying to but im not going to apolojize for speaking truth
rahh55571 1 year ago
@rahh55571 Please don't apologize because you will make me feel guilty! I'm sure you're not a bad person, in fact you seem like a great person ......but I wish all religions were destroyed! The world would be a much better place.
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner christianity isnt really a religion cuz sense like u cant do any amount of good to like earn your way to heaven its a gift u no. but i wish all the false religion would be destroyed and people wouldnt not no what to believe. but God does love you.
rahh55571 1 year ago
@rahh55571 Do you believe dinosaurs ruled the world 65 million years ago?
showboyninner 1 year ago
@showboyninner i guess well sense there is fossils and stuff it is something to think about though. why?
rahh55571 1 year ago
@rahh55571 because many christians tell me they were never here, despite the fact that we have evidence to prove they were. And yet they believe at the same time that someone watches over us all from the clouds. Sums it up really!! Garbage
showboyninner 1 year ago 2
@showboyninner well i suppose they were here haha but i no God is real and i honestly would not be sitting here telling you that He is. Im gonna be praying for you though. you may not belive it now but hopefully someday you will :)
rahh55571 1 year ago
@showboyninner Heh... probably not, as everyone KNOWS that "carbon dating and dinosaur bones are tricks from God to send people to Hell", and we ALL know how much God just LOVES "sending people to Hell"... It's part of his innate goodness...
shmuli9 1 year ago
@shmuli9 God does not just LOVE "sending people to Hell", he doesn't know you exist. Hell is your own creation.
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
@cyberhobo813 Yes, I have heard that Hell is one's own creation, or KNOWING one is separated from God but not feeling sorry about it, which turns into a vicious circle...
*I* don't think God loves to send people t Hell, but there are a LOT of people who - rather smugly, in my opinion - ("*I'm not going to Hell, cause I'm saved") think that or say that, or both...
shmuli9 1 year ago
@shmuli9 Yeah, I guess sometimes we have to put up with a whole army of jerks. What seems to me to be so dangerous is how they think they are in "the right" even when their actions are so harmful to others.
people like showboyniner on this channel forexample, he doesn't seem to know how strong he can be in comparison to so many others.
There are people in this world who get stepped on no matter how careful we try to be, and if he simply will not believe that then lots will suffer. It's so sad.
cyberhobo813 1 year ago
Animals eat other animals because humans are so different than animals when they did something God didn't want, he made animals eat each other. Pray tell, since Veganism is a feasible means of living, and has been since that day, why then does man eat animals? Is that part of God being pissed off, like animals being gay? If so, shouldn't we all be Vegan?
Jesus broke bread and drank wine, there was no meat involved. Maybe everyone is meant to be straight and vegan? What a stupid religion. †
pismodude2 1 year ago
O.o i can't tell is he joking or something? i mean he has too be!!! cause other than the fact that everything he said was completaly illogical and made absalotely NO sence... but i mean i knew maybe in the 1800's and earliy 1900's and everthing beiond that point, people thought things like that. but i thought humans had opened there eye's and had started to work things out for themselfs.
And this comes from a 14 year old british girl~
nooosheee 1 year ago
I like the second answers.
"God can't have made anything 'wrong', so it must be the fault of humans"
and
"Humans can't be gay, but animals can because humans are totally better than animals"
They really put the SPECIAL in Special Pleading.
dmgirl3000 1 year ago
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Good info. I also am a former bible thumping homophobe who came to good sense. I've heard another answer that can be given by Christians. Homosexuality is a spirit to be passed from one to another and the animal kingdom is also subject to that type of demonic possession as examples of that are in the bible. I think it's amazing since all these things people come up with to hold true to their beliefs inspite of clear evidence is a testament to human ignorance and yet also our ability to reason
jrr577 1 year ago
Good info. I also am a former bible thumping homophobe who came to good sense. I've heard another answer that can be given by Christians. Homosexuality is a spirit to be passed from one to another and the animal kingdom is also subject to that type of demonic possession as examples of that are in the bible. I think it's amazing since all these things people come up with to hold true to their beliefs inspite of clear evidence is a testament to human ignorance and yet also our ability to reason.
jrr577 1 year ago
Rid of the music please, it's too hard to hear what you're saying.
FighterForPaula1 1 year ago
Oh give me a break. An ex Bible-loving homophobe??? With a name like "BiNate82", what we have here is a "bisexual" which is nothing more than a homosexual in training. You lying fags are pathetic. Animals are not homosexual. They respond blindly to instinct and hormones. I've seen horses in heat try to mount cows, for example. They don't understand what they are doing.
MaryWaterton 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton Wow you're such a role model for Christians everywhere with such hatred towards a minority group and your lovely language "lying fags". If you're gonna make an argument, please at least don't be so pathetic than to resort to bad language. I have a Bible quote for you Matthew 7:12 "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Practise what you preach, or do you turn the other cheek?
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton by ur comments i assume u r not gay, bi , & not quite sure u r human either, but what makes u know all abt homosexuality or bisexuality? r u either? no. i think someone who is gay or bi would have the patent on that over u. ur demeening attitude towards others who are not like you-thank GOD- shows a certain type of asshole. to hate or harrass another for no reason is simply an evil act. u definately dont have the patent on the human race or anything else. if u dont understand,ask.
dorianstark 1 year ago
You can say god is a racist sexist tyrant and that he doesn't exist all you want but think about this if the bible is right and you find out when you die then you have no-one to blame but yourself when end up in you know where. Yes gayness in animals does exist but do we eat our young do we carry them in pouches and hop around? Do we swing from trees and scratch our butts? Second thought don't answer that one. The point is just because animals do it dosn't justify us doing it.
slade017 1 year ago
The Bible is just a load of homophobic horseshit and laughable fairytales.
Poochalot 1 year ago
I wish you hadn't put the song on, I could barely concentrate on what you were saying
angeltears87 1 year ago
If lions, tigers and sharks just to name three. If they didn't evolve I mean created to eat meat / kill then why then do they have a mouth full of teeth intended to rip flesh?
The fingers in their ears and shouting LALALALALA seems to be all I ever hear when faced with contradictions.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
okay i dont believe in evolution because really...but the bible has been misinterpreted you know, which is very unfortunate. but yeah, it doesnt really condemn homosexuality.
explodingmoons 1 year ago
Video feedback: Lose the background music/song; it is distracting
1huzfreeatlast 1 year ago
LOL.... "wrong dolphins" LOL
TVWriterGuy 1 year ago
LMFAO AHAHAAHAHA WHAT DUMB ASS RESPONSES XD
CarlosWolfVillage 1 year ago
ugh i dont c why everyone has to resort to the stupid bible for answer on the way ur ass shuld think, think for urselves, if u dont understand it who cares its not for u 2 understand it for u not to be involved in how others live. mind ur own fucken business u stuck up nothing to do ass faces who like to tell people how to love and who even though u shouldnt meddle in others affairs. like u have a say in someone elses lives. you dont
vidfan30 1 year ago
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Religion not only gives people of profoundly flawed character an excuse for being the pathetically flawed human beings they are, but it enables them to call all of their thoughts and actions "sanctioned by God".
This is how slavery was embraced well into the industrial age, segregation and Apartheid were accepted up to a generation ago, and anti-gay crusading is celebrated as the Will of God.
Sorry, but bigotry, hate and other narcissistic traits are from flawed humans, as is God.
thursdaysrecords 1 year ago
According to Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10, I'm sinned. How the hell am I supposed to repent on this?! D: Oh do I stop this habit; it's too good to stop???
ABoredPerson70 1 year ago
@ABoredPerson70 First of all are you Jewish? In Lev 11:2 "speak unto the children of Israel" If not do not worry. Jesus said not that which goes in the mouth that defileth but that which comes out. Best of all. 1 Cor 10:25 "Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake;" and "For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:" 1 Tim 4:4 So enjoy.
RepresentingTruth 1 year ago
@RepresentingTruth Wait, so Deuteronomy and Leviticus don't count in Chrstian teaching? This is too self-contradicting for me. Makes my brain go in circles, you know?
ABoredPerson70 1 year ago
@ABoredPerson70 Oh I thought you would be excited to hear that you can keep eating the way you are. I see that you have not been able to connect things together well but do not fret my friend. Stick around and I will guide you through the process. BTW I had a BLT today.
RepresentingTruth 1 year ago
@RepresentingTruth Oh, I'm soooo excited... about your BLT? Mmm...bacon...
Lost topic, oh well, too tired to care. :D
ABoredPerson70 1 year ago
Listen heretic. Animals are not humans. Praying mantis will eat their mate. The black widow kills its mate. That may be natural for them but not us. Jesus did not have to die on the cross for any animal but only mankind. You may choose to act like an animal but only humans will stand at the judgment seat of Christ. One last thing Sherlock, ANIMALS DO NOT GET MARRIED. Think it through before you answer next time.
RepresentingTruth 1 year ago
@RepresentingTruth /but humans are animals. Unless you're a creationist. But let's not get started in a long conversation, I peronally don't feel like it. But biologically, yes, humans are in the animal category. :)
ABoredPerson70 1 year ago
@ABoredPerson70 Yes I believe that God created us and we do not need to get into a debate on evolution since that is not the topic.
RepresentingTruth 1 year ago
@RepresentingTruth I'm just saying, in a biological viewpoint. :) Nothing more.
ABoredPerson70 1 year ago
@RepresentingTruth
This video is not saying that it is OK for humans to have gay sex because animals have gay sex.
This video is a response to arguments made by "Christians" who claim that animals do not have gay sex, and therefore it is unnatural and humans should not have gay sex either. This argument is absurd for two reasons. One you have stated yourself, that animals do things that we (even gay people) find unethical. The other is that the assumption is false. Animals do have gay sex.
GualtieroIestyn 1 year ago
@GualtieroIestyn Animals do a lot of things. My point is not to compare our selfs with them since we are the only ones that get married. What might be natural for them(eating a mate alive and gay sex) is not natural for us. A dog screws as many other dogs as it can but it is not sinning. We however have a much higher standard to go by. That is my point.
RepresentingTruth 1 year ago
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Another homophobe wrote: "What would happen if the whole world was gay?" My response: What would happen if the whole world would stop harassing people for who and what they are?
What would happen if the whole world would get along instead of constantly finding flaws in OTHERS?
What would happen if nobody would give a damn about what consenting adult falls in love with another consenting adult?
What would happen if the world was free of bigots and homophobes?
schlummieleinchen 1 year ago
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God created man, not the sin. The behavior that man exercises is of his own temptation. We know that homosexuality is a sin because we see the consequences (drug use, AIDS, depression, suicide) that God punishes those who choose that sort of lifestyle. God created a perfect world until man started to become defiant.
Woting14 1 year ago
"Homosexuals" didn't appear in the KJV. And it would not appear for MANY centuries until its printing in the "Revised Standard Verson" in 1946. A person of EITHER orientation or gender could be any of the things listed in 1 Cor. 6:9-10. Stating ALL homosexuals were neccessarily included in the passage might well be presuming too much.
clay56 1 year ago
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@clay56 Yes: the term for homosexuality was not in the original scriptures, because they didn't even have a name for that type of behaviour. rather they had to explain it as...."nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind."
1369Tara 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Because we live in a theocracy....of course.... and because the bible is not a bad source of info.... truly you are a paragon of wit and inteligence...
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo Thanks for the compliment. I hope all Christians reading my comments will realize that we are almost out of time to work out our salvation in the perfection of Holiness.
1369Tara 1 year ago
@1369Tara Hmmm? I do not remember complimenting you.... I remember sending a VERY sarcastic compliment to TheBoogieman7, which he seems to have ignored, but I do not remember complimenting anyone.
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo I was using my daughters PC to respond to you. She is a 26 year old beautiful woman. I gave her life by having sex with a woman. Something you queers won't ever be able to do.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Ah, so the fact that I am in favor of basic human rights makes me a, to quote, "queer". Here, let me point out the flaw in that logic: By your logic old people and sterile people, no matter which gender, cannot marry. Please tell me something that actualy makes sense next time.
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo Thank's for that compliment. I always love it when someone makes me get out my dictionary. Especially when I learn a word that is worth knowing. Sorry it took so long to reply. My PC crashed and burned right after I poted here. Any wisdom I have is from believing the Bible or from disbelieving it and learning from that mistake. Pain is a harsh way to learn. We can learn from our on pain or from the examples of other's mistakes and the pain it caused them.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Its.... How.... I was being sarcastic. It was not a compliment! I commented on the fact that your only evidence was from the bible, which is so open to interpretation, you only make youself worse! Here, let me copy-paste it: Because we live in a theocracy... of course... and because the bible is not a bad source of info... truly you are a paragon of wit and inteligence... Just take out the 'nots' and you will get what I was saying.
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo OK so you were being a jerk? Sarcasm is the lowest form of humore. I never respond to Jerks. I thought you were a Christain. My mistake Have a nice life, and may you get where you are going !00 Billion years before Satan knows his date is there for his pleasure.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Um... what were you saying there? I couldn't understand, what with you somhow saying ! in place of 1. Not that any of that made sense. I mean, so I'm not christian, does that make me a jerk? Also: Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet pot. You were kinda being a homophobe there. And your only evidence is from the bible, which is open to interpretation. And what was that last sentance supposed to mean, might I ask?
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo Basically it means; You are letting the God of this world Satan, Lucifer, The Devil, screw you out of your chance for eternal life. And an eternity in hell will be your fate if you don't change (repent). The Bible is not open for interpretation! It say's "the word of GOD is of no private interpretation." I am not homophobe my friend. You are a jerk because when people reject the Bible as the source of true widom, they become of a debased mentality (a Jerk)
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Yes! Yes you idiot, the bible IS open to interpretation! I asume you don't think slavery is right? I'm also asumeing you prefer not to practice an eye for an eye? I'm sure you don't think that the bible justifies rasism? 'Cause its been used to justify all of those. And thank you for bringing up hell! I hoped you were one of the nice ones, the ones who don't actualy believe that god locks his children in the basement and tortures them for not loving him.
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
@DevastationNazo We live in a Republic, not a Theocracy. Remember what you were brainwashed to do in (government) public schools? (Worship the State instead of God.) The pleage of Allegence to "the Republic for which it Stands" Wake up my friend. It's a fine thing to have Brotherly Love. but it's not true brotherly love when men are having sex with eachother. Ask God to put a right Spirit in you and He will show you how detestable it is to Him.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 And no. EVERY GOD DAMNED THING YOU HAVE SAID THUS FAR, HAS INVOLVED THE DAMNED BIBLE! You cannot use the bible as evidence. It. Is. Not. Evidence! Many, many people do not believe it! Just because you do does not make you right! The burden of truth is on you, to prove through non-biblical means that homosexuality is wrong, and that they do not deserve basic human rights.
DevastationNazo 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smaller matters? 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge Angels? How much more things that pertain to this life? 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not deceived, Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.(homosexuals) 6:10 nor thieves, nor drunkards.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
Mature Christians know the Bible is the infallible word of God; inspired by the Holy Spirit and has not one letter or punctuation mark in it that was not specifically ordained by God. So, in other words If it's written in the Bible, it don't matter who penned the epistle. It was God Talking through that person. A mature Christian knows you take it all as Gospel. You can't dismiss the parts your uncomfortable with.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
This homosexual activity of animals that occurs is about instinctively showing dominance and not about a sexual feeling towards that same sex animal. Although humans are mammals, unlike animals we are not slaves to our instincts and we have the power to understand and choose freewill.
funk7000 1 year ago
Well, there are penguins that stay with their same sex partner their whole lives, they show all the same types of affections that the heterosexual penguins do. And it's not a dominance thing.
biohazard93808 1 year ago
@biohazard93808 Maybe your a penguin in a human body?
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@TheBoogieman7 Possibly ;D That would explain everything!
biohazard93808 1 year ago
@biohazard93808
I am not a machine, though I work with the precision of a machine and,
the intelligence of a person
You may run me for profit or run me for ruin,
it makes no difference to me
Take me, train me, and be firm with me, and I will place the world at your feet
Be easy with me and I will destroy you
You choose if I will be good for you or if I will be bad for you
I am your constant companion and, I inhabit everyone
Who am I?
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808
I am not a machine, though I work with the precision of a machine and,
the intelligence of a person
You may run me for profit or run me for ruin,
it makes no difference to me
Take me, train me, and be firm with me, and I will place the world at your feet
Be easy with me and I will destroy you
You choose if I will be good for you or if I will be bad for you
I am your constant companion and, I inhabit everyone
Who am I?
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@biohazard93808
I am not a machine, though I work with the precision of a machine and,
the intelligence of a person
You may run me for profit or run me for ruin,
it makes no difference to me
Take me, train me, and be firm with me, and I will place the world at your feet
Be easy with me and I will destroy you
You choose if I will be good for you or if I will be bad for you
I am your constant companion and, I inhabit everyone
Who am I?
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808
I am not a machine, though I work with the precision of a machine and,
the intelligence of a person
You may run me for profit or run me for ruin,
it makes no difference to me
Take me, train me, and be firm with me, and I will place the world at your feet
Be easy with me and I will destroy you
You choose if I will be good for you or if I will be bad for you
I am your constant companion and, I inhabit everyone
Who am I?
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
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@biohazard93808 I am your constant companion
I am your greatest helper or heaviest burden
I will push you onward or drag you down to failure
I am completely at your command
I am managed with care—you must be firm with me
Show me exactly how you want something done, and after enough lessons,
I will do it automatically
I am the servant of all great people, and alas, of all great failures
Those who are great, I have made great
Those who are failures, I have made failures
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@funk7000 Well Said but, your wasting your breath The queers have been given over to a debased mentality. (the Demons) They can never admit their behavior is wrong because the Holy Spirit is the source of a conscience. When the Holy Spirit is grieved by the unrepentant , repeated sins it will eventually leave that person and they will become host to 7more unclean Spirits much worse then the demon that is causing them to be queer. Demons operate in Gangs of 8. They get in when we let them in.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
Yeah, always loved that type of argument.
- "Homosexuality is a choice. Where does that happen in nature?"
- (Present tons of studies and evidence.)
- "So we're supposed to act like animals do? Is that what you're saying?"
- (Sigh...)
Also, just to respond to some of the older comments on here. Before you start spouting off what you think God did or didn't forbid, you might want to think about where he put the male prostate (essentially the male g-spot). I'm just sayin...
weeleigh83 1 year ago 2
You have an interesting viewpoint. Now, where is the evidence for all of this?
Oh, wait. There is none.
madderbass 1 year ago
"Because man sinned, it FUCKED-UP the entire world..." ROFFLMAO!!!!!
he0got0soul 1 year ago
How can anyone beleive in one single religion I dont know. there are muslims, budhists, Christians, Jews each litle group beleivng their view is true infact not beleiveng but knowing their own religions beleifs are true. step out your religion and see the truth you are merely beloing to a religious beleif group altho to u its true and nothing else is
ForHumanRights1 1 year ago
The USA people brainwashed by the christian religion. Just like people in Iran are brainwashed by the muslim religion.
DoomNoMore 2 years ago 4
binate 82, if what you say is true and this is how religious types think. then it's scary, very scary, that 'intelligent' people can believe that. and more scary that some of them are in government.
sgntelias 2 years ago
God doesn't hate , his very existence is to love us ALL. And if you are a true child of God you too will love our fellow brothers and sisters and spread love, not hate, no matter what sin our brothers and sisters commit we cannot judge, but instead we must love them unconditionally.
Matthew 22:34-40
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment ?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.
hellslayer86 2 years ago
@hellslayer86: "God doesn't hate , his very existence is to love us ALL"
Obviously you have never read the old testament. Ordering rape, genocide and the murder of infants is not what I would can an act of love.
moonlightdancer77 1 year ago 3
I am a homosexual man..I do not know why, it's all I am since I remember, before I was faced with the evils of society and religion that made my existence a terrible one, but now I am over it, I was born a nice and good human being and that's what I am...I am a homosexual good human being..FUCK HOMOPHOBIA....FUCK RELIGIONS THAT DISCRIMINATE...many teens comit suicide because of that..be a good human being respect nature.
isabelino16 2 years ago 14
@isabelino16 It's not that Christians are concerned with what you are doing with your genitalia; They are concerned with your immortal soul. God can change a homosexual from within, by the transformation effected by the Holy Spirit received when you lay down your rebellion and admit what your doing is wrong. (repentance).
We are creatures of habit. behavior is a learned process. If you want to change God will always provide a way out for you so you are not tempted in your moment of weakness.
TheBoogieman7 1 year ago
@isabelino16 I am not a homosexual, but I have friends and family who are... I love them very much. Gay equality is the modern day civil rights movement. Peace friend.
kailabreece 1 year ago
@isabelino16 True Christians don't hate gay people. I'm an example of a Christian that doesn't hate gays. Check out the GayChristianNetwork's YouTube channel for more information on this
YoungIvyScholar 1 year ago
All religions have two sides and types of people in it.One side of each religion is judgmental,hateful,argumentati ve, non-understanding,impatient,qu ick tempered,and unexciting of others differences and ready to kill and send people to hell. The other is loving,understanding,slow to anger, patient, and they let their religion be the source of understanding of the differences and imperfection of others. As God intended religion to serve as a source of unity, not discord!
Qwayb 2 years ago
Christianity is against nature, It is a superstitious belief. Christians are mentally sick, believing in an imaginary god, treating a fairy tales and myths as history. Christians pedophize their children mentally. How one believe in a mountain god raping a 13-year-old virgn, a sadistic volcano deity who demanded human sacrifice, wiped out all humans including babies with a great flood? Sick people have sick beliefs.
FyFhFr25 2 years ago 12
@FyFhFr25 yes, Christianity is against "nature" It is "natural" to lie, to steal, to harm your fellow man, to do drugs, to drink, to cheat on your spouse, and to hate, yet in all of these things, Jesus offers complete victory. You are mixing pagan nonsense with the one true and living God. Get a Bible, and be a little more humble.
apologeticsman 2 years ago
@apologeticsman '
Well the opposites of all the bad things you mention are natural too. And these ethical guidlines are so much older than christianity, they did absolutely not START with christianity or biblical history. Christianity is against nature in the sense that it closes the mind to the obvious truths revealed in modern times while rewarding those who follow 2000 year old reciepies for how to live life without asking any questions or caring if it's actually really true. Faith.
superfatamusic 2 years ago 2
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@superfatamusic:"these ethical guidlines are so much older than christianity, they did absolutely not START with christianity or biblical history."
Read the Tao De Ching. It was written down 500 years BEFORE Christ, but its origins date back thousands of years earlier.
moonlightdancer77 1 year ago
@FyFhFr25 and saying these things make you just as bad as you think christians are.
explodingmoons 1 year ago
@explodingmoons
How does pointing out what Christians claim in their ignorance make someone bad?
Is it bad to show how sick and evil Christianity is and has been?
Is it sick and evil to say the inquisitions which lasted over 700 YEARS. Will NEVER be permitted to happen again!
Seems to me a lot of Christians would like to be able to torture those who do not bow to their sadistic bible based mental illness. Yet they want to profess to be a religion of love.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis believe me deep down, in most Christians hearts, if they had a chance to force and torture all who do not bow down to their almighty book to do so... they gladly would.
magyksthelimit 1 year ago
@magyksthelimit
I agree and that only goes to prove we do not get our morals from religion but inspite of it.
This is the reason I think Atheists are as vocal as they are against Christianity & Islam.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@magyksthelimit No they wouldn't... The Religious might, but not the church
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006 the church? as in MOST pastors,priests, the majority of Christianity? forgive me if im wrongly viewing this observation but the majority of people who call themselves Christians are some of th vilest people ever. the church has started some pretty horrible things, and after being proven wrong they always step away and say it wasnt them.Christianity as in the majority of Christians would be the church. REAL Christians follow Christ and believe in love not hate.
magyksthelimit 1 year ago
@magyksthelimit No the Church is those who have faith and trust in Jesus Christ and follow his teachings. As He himself said "you are my disciples if you obey my commands" What was His commands? Love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour also to name a couple. To say that the institutional church and those who pay lip service to Christianity is the Church is to miss the true point in the Bible and Christ. The greatest deception is the counterfeit.
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Remember though that the inquisition also tortured the Christians and burned those who were in the Church at the stake. Infact the greatest persecutors of Christians have been the power hungry "church".
So the true church has never looked to torture anyone. do all Americans want to kill Iraqis because they want money? Similar to George Bush killing people for money but saying it was for defending a nation is the same as the "church" killing people for money but saying for God
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
You would have a point except so many Christians have the inquisition mindset. That being if you do not believe and think Exactly as they say then they are saying about someone going to Hell Forever.
The idea that you can just believe something because someone threatens you with torture means you think you could believe in invisible flying pink monkey's if it was believe this or be burned alive forever.
Threats of torture are not an effective way to get someone's love!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis for the most part the human mind works in a way that you can receive a specific amount of torture. then the mind 'breaks' and your subconscious takes over and then it grasps at any given 'branch' to save itself, ie you.
magyksthelimit 1 year ago
@magyksthelimit
Exactly which means a person will tell the one torturing them anything they want to hear to end the torture. It doesn't matter if what the person wants to hear is total bullshit and the one being tortured will never really believe it.
Which means it is totally unreliable to use this to try and get information.
The idea of endless torture means there would come a point where the person would go completely crazy and could even start to enjoy the pain.
So hell is BS!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis It's not the lack of belief that means God sends people to hell. That would be unjust. Every human being at judgement will not feel unfairly punished. It is not a lack of faith that sends people to hell but sin that sends them there, as how can God possibly allow sin into heaven? I know this might not be much of a clarification to you but it's an important distinction. Faith(trust) is saying I will allow God to fix the problem and not try to fix it myself, because you can't
stephjh2006 1 year ago
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis "Threats of torture are not an effective way to get someone's love!"
God isn't threatening. This is a simple miss reading. If I had cancer and the doctor told me I had it and will die, he is not threatening me now is he. If he offers me treatment he is not using torture to convince me of the treatment. I would take the treatment because of the realisation of my situation, the doctor is independent of my predicament. People seem to blame God for our predicament???
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
Clearly you do not know your bible.
The Story of the Plagues in Egypt!
This God said let my people go. When he didn't get his way TORTURE was his answer!
Over and OVER this God used the same tactic. Make demands then when he doesn't get his way TORTURE! And his grand finale was the DEATH'S of all first born CHILDREN!
CHILDREN!
Not the ones that wouldn't bow to his sadistic will but FUCKING CHILDREN!
This God CAN NOT CHANGE!
Malachi 3:6 I am the LORD, I change not!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
I have NO DISEASE!
I do not need a HUMAN SACRIFICE to make me good!
A BLOOD HUMAN SACRIFICE doesn't make what you do to others alright!
You are attempting to whitewash the tyrantical nature of the bible God!
If this God made us then if we are not PERFECT it is the fault of the one that fucking made us!
You can not blame the pottery for being a piece of shit when the potter is a stupid ass!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
You know this attitude Christians give of, "you know it is your fault this is happening" is Exactly what those who abuse others do!
The husband that beats the shit out of his wife & or Children, "See what You Made Me do!"
Or the abusive parent to their child, "You are the entire problem without you we'd have no problems"
In BOTH cases the one made to feel like they are the reason things happen is the VICTIM of the ABUSER!
And here YOU ARE trying to excuse the ABUSER!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@stephjh2006 I agree with you. Many accuse God of being a 'bully', but the last time I checked, God is the Supreme Being and the one who makes the rules and knowledge, not us. That means, its His rules, His powers, His way. God warned the Egyptians plenty of times, and note, the ancient Egyptians denied God's existence and worshipped their own false deities. After the first nine plagues, he was being fair in trying to show the Pharaoh that the Pharaoh can stop this if he just let the Jews go.
TheAkatsuki10 1 year ago
@PastorIblis sorry I know this was 2 months ago, but I wanted to reply. The world looks at those who profess Christ, but live counter to Him.
With regard to saying those who don't believe will go to hell and comparing this to inquisition is unfair. 1st the Christian is not condemning to hell. Rather warning of hell.
2nd Hell is not just because you don't believe, "even demons believe"
3rd Hell is a MUST if there is anything after death, I can explain why if you ask me
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
It is not an unfair comparason given that was the belief which was held during the Inquisitions and for over 700 Years Christians would brutally torture those that were accused of being a witch or heretic. A heretic btw is someone with ideas or views contrary to the Church!
In short Thought Crime! Oh you don't Think as we say well then we get to brutally torture you!
Your idea of a God is no different then you.
In fact your God behaves Worse then any human ever has!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis The Bible does not excuse people to brutally torture people for not believing. The Christian message is one of salvation from not condemnation to. Christians were also tortured as heretics during the inquisition remember. The inquisition shows the dangers of man using religion to oppress another, it was the same with atheism in Stalin’s Russia, Mao's China and Pot's Cambodia.
It's man's brutality that looks to torture to obtain power.
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
You are one ignorant shitball!
EXODUS 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
WHICH WAS USED BY THE CHURCH FOR OVER 700 YEARS TO TORTURE AND MURDER UNKNOWN MILLIONS!
ALL BECAUSE THEY WERE ACCUSED OF BEING A WITCH!
NOT PROVEN JUST FUCKING ACCUSED ASSHOLE!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblisthere is no need to throw insults.
Exactly, the church has a bad history of using that which it wanted to justify its own means. This is mankind's brutality.
No fair trial, just accusation. Not very fair.
They still do in many cases. But what has the church been instructed to do? We know that mercy was always important. I for one would not want to see a single hair harmed on another. A Christian should look to Christ as an example and live as he lived.
stephjh2006 1 year ago
@stephjh2006
It is a well known fact that a child will behave in ways reflective of how their parent behaves. Given that fact this belief in a Hell being necessary means you seriously think that if someone has different thoughts then you that it is necessary to torture them simply because they reject your fantasies!
Yet you want to claim to be a religion of Love or Mercy.
Hell is Scientificly impossible as well as morally and ethicly brankrupt!
You are pro torture I am not!
Who's moral?
PastorIblis 1 year ago