Bless you for your frank, honest and truthful presentation of the facts of how the normal people in the Protestant Church view the Catholic church.
I was raised as a Protestant for my entire first 18 years. Many years later, at 30, I converted to the RCC, being convinced that what I found there was real and true. (con't)
My experiences there were right in line with what you say. They are fighting the good fight alongside us and they have better things to do with their time than invent conspiracy theories and use a Jerry Springer mentality to spread lies and misinformation.
But it's true... as he really believes the Jesuits (under orders from the Vatican) are responsible for all the evil in the world (and Satan pulls the Vatican's strings in preparation for the end times as he has presumably since the beginning) that streamlines Chick's propaganda process a lot
According to the stats I found there are a few more practicing SDA's than there are Mormons (and way more than there are JW's). I don't think he's ever done a track against a tiny (but visible) group like Scientology (guess he's directing his message at the "common man" and Scientology targets celebrities). he may have figured he has bigger fish to fry and anti-catholicism just won't go away
And of all the "expert witnesses" of Chick's that have been discredited (like Mr. Todd the "satanist/druid/witch" guy) Alberto Rivera is the one that Chick seems to be really hanging onto, insisting that the campaign to discredit him (conducted by mainline Protestants and Catholics alike) is part of a Jesuit conspiracy smear campaign. his "ministry" republishes a lot of conspiracy books, maybe even Riplinger's, but I can't be sure of that still today
If one needs further proof that Alberto Rivera was a fraud, there is a video on youtube of him telling his story and supporting the ideas of a Seventh Day Adventist. I don't know if Jack Chick has ever condemned the SDA's, but with his theology you'd think he'd consider them a false cult. If Rivera would support them, wouldn't that imply he wasn't working for the "right side," but was an opportunist looking for publicity and a little cash?
@XSC3 Chick can make more money with slander against the Church. Why deal with an organization that just has a false prophet and no sound Bible doctrines :)
Bingolly, you were Southern Baptist? I just always guessed that you converted from Seventh Day Adventism, based on the focus of many of your videos. Live and learn.
@BaronGrackle Yes I was Southern Baptist. I focus on the SDA because of their slander of the Catholic Church. Also others use their material and just adjust it to meet their needs. By debunking the SDA slander you debunk others as well. GBU
As Protestant and having been raised to believe Jack Chick's conspiracy-based religion it seems prudent to strongly encourage fellow Protestants to engage in actual research regarding the Catholic church.
As a starting point perhaps one might be interested in viewing "The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization." It is avilable at my channel.
Aside from my other endeavors, after 30 years as a professional Liturgical Musician I can concur with your perspective here as regards to the mainline Protestants at least.
5 years Presbyterian
1 year Methodist
5 years Episcopalian
5 years Congregational
20 years in Jewish synagogues, both of the "Reformed" and the "Conservative" traditions
20 years Catholic
Catholic, but blessed to have been exposed to these various worship traditions.
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Jesuit Oath:
''My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits.......''
@GaraGambini I see you are very ignorant and promote hatred among people. You are one of the idiots I am referring to in my video. There is stil hope for you though since Jesus has not yet returned.
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I see you are very ignorant and you refuse to believe the facts. I live in a country that thousands of people have died through IRA terrorism backed by the Roman Catholic Church.
Do you want me to post what those members of the IRA said themselves about the actions of their Church?
Again, you can't talk if you haven't experienced it, sorry.
If you're going to go that route, I guess we should blame the KKK on your Protestant brothers.
The Vatican has spoken out AGAINST violence for years and years. So if you're going to accuse them of being hypocritical and sending support to active terrorist organizations, PROVE IT please.
The irony is that extreme conspiracy theorists fundies such as Jack Chick actually accuse the Jesuits with having created the KKK. Of course, Mr. Chick also blames the creation of practically every evil political ideology or religious creed ever devised by man on the Catholic Church.
His accusations often do not appear to even pass the common sense test.
@Mechanized0, good point. Most of Chick's theories come from various "expert witnesses," people who have approached him to sell them their stories as "former insiders" of various groups who now have "seen the light" and embraced the true faith (ie: fundamentalist protestantism of the baptist variety). nearly all of them have been proven frauds (but he still believes what appeals to his prejudices). his "expert" for Catholicism was the alleged ex-Jesuit Alberto Rivera.
@aarancel There are some who build their Theology or study of God around conspiracy such as the movie 2012. Here one has a conspiracy of some kind and fits their theology into their conspiracy. Others see the Catholic Church as evil and build their beliefs on conspiracy concerning the Church. It filters over into their theology or thinking about God. Tanks
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What truth do you believe? Do you believe in: Worship of images, relics and cross? Prayers to the Virgin, Queen of Heaven? The doctrine of purgatory? Temporal power of the Pope? Celibacy of the priesthood and nuns? Selling indulgences? Confession of sins to human priest? Seven sacraments? Tradition established as infallible authority? Infallibility of the Popes? Do you believe these corruptions of God to be the truth? If you don't you should oppose those errors of Rome.
@GaraGambini Thanks for proving my points in the video. Your hatred is just what I refer o when I talk about conspiracy theology. Repent while it is not to late. I forgive you of your hatred.
Catholics don't "worship" images, relics or the cross, Gambini. What "Temporal Power" does the Pope have these days anyway? The selling of indulgences is forbidden. "Tradition established as infallible authority" is misleading (implying ALL tradition is somehow infallible).
Calling the other things "corruptions of God" and "errors" remains to be proved. Can you do it, or just spew out the usual objections?
@Mechanized0 I believe Labarum312 has ripped Riplinger apart and the other two are sources no honest person would used since they have been debunked so many times. Thanks
Ironically, I completed viewing Larbrum312 videos on the subject of G. A. Riplinger's book just last night. The purpose of my post was simply to list the most popular works that have been utilized, erroneous or otherwise, as a basis for their arguments.
Larbrum312 did provide some excellent rebuttals to Riplinger's thesis. The videos are highly recommended.
yeah, all Alberto River did is take the information one could get from those three books and claimed that he was an "insider" ("I used to be one") and therefore can confirm the rumors are true (but only based on his "eyewitness testimony") not on any verifiable evidence, because it's all "secret," wink, wink.
Another is "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" by Charles Chinquay (also wrote "The Woman and the Confesional") and "the Awful Discourses of Maria Monk" (most now realize this is a fraud)
Speaking of conspiracy theories there's some really far out theories about the Jesuits. It's logical why they would demonize the Jesuits since they were the strongest threat against protestantism during the times of the reformation.
''My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits.......''
Just google "jesuit oath debunked". There is a site called "evangelizationstation(dot)com that deals with this fraud. Conspiracy theorists are so gullible.
Indeed Bingolly. Further, conspiracy theologists (an excellent term if I may say so) such as Jack Chick believe that the Jesuits and RCC created the following religions & political ideologies:
*Fascism
*Communism
*Masonry
*Islam
*Mormonism
Another erroneous claim includes the idea that the Inquisition[s] were responsible for the extermination of some 68 million people. The entire population of Europe during the High Middle Ages never exceeded 20-30 million, thus the charge is absurd.
I had gone to various sources to add up the numbers once. I arrived at a similar number as you did. The number, as you pointed out, exceeded the number of people in Europe at the time. Thanks. I might do a video on this soon.
Yeah, and back in the early 2000's I remember hearing a very specific claim of "68 million baptists killed by the Church in the dark ages," after which the baptists were forced to live in caves.
I was about to comment that Chick was an equal opportunity libelist against groups he considers false (ie: non-KJV only, non-fundamentalists), but although he has tracts attacking Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, witches/pagans, homosexuals, masons, new age, hippies/drug culture/free love, hindus, muslims, etc. he has more single tracts (and comics) directly attacking the Catholic Church, more books on that topic, and then there are various scattered potshots against the CC in his other works.
What a great testimony. I, likewise, have never heard anything negative about non-catholic churches within the Catholic Church. Your words are very revealing and edifying...the entire Youtube community can and should learn from you. Well said and well done.
Bing, your story would be great to hear on EWTN's The Journey Home. The Journey Home is a show in which former protestants (and others) tell thier story of conversion to the Roman Catholic Church.
Weather catholic or protestant, there is no need to fight because we both worship the same God.
knuckleheadh2o 3 days ago
Thanks,makes me feel much better as a catholic.
shaioliver 9 months ago
This is a funny video! Nothing in it to talk about, a real sleeper, good night!
daniele6850 1 year ago
Protestants don't believe in demon possession/ exorcism?
seasonedsevencolors 1 year ago
Excellent video and very informative! Thanks for posting :-)
TVCatholic 1 year ago
as a Catholic i enjoyed listening to such a sincere man,btw i also really enjoyed your rev. video,ty for sharing your faithfullness gbu
joetookmyvideo 1 year ago
@joetookmyvideo Your comment is greatly appreciated. GBU
Bingolly1 1 year ago
hey Bingolly1:
Bless you for your frank, honest and truthful presentation of the facts of how the normal people in the Protestant Church view the Catholic church.
I was raised as a Protestant for my entire first 18 years. Many years later, at 30, I converted to the RCC, being convinced that what I found there was real and true. (con't)
hiswife2002 2 years ago
(con't)
My experiences there were right in line with what you say. They are fighting the good fight alongside us and they have better things to do with their time than invent conspiracy theories and use a Jerry Springer mentality to spread lies and misinformation.
Again, bless you......and welcome home :)
hiswife2002 2 years ago
What a great testimony. Thank you very much. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
But it's true... as he really believes the Jesuits (under orders from the Vatican) are responsible for all the evil in the world (and Satan pulls the Vatican's strings in preparation for the end times as he has presumably since the beginning) that streamlines Chick's propaganda process a lot
XSC3 2 years ago
According to the stats I found there are a few more practicing SDA's than there are Mormons (and way more than there are JW's). I don't think he's ever done a track against a tiny (but visible) group like Scientology (guess he's directing his message at the "common man" and Scientology targets celebrities). he may have figured he has bigger fish to fry and anti-catholicism just won't go away
XSC3 2 years ago
And of all the "expert witnesses" of Chick's that have been discredited (like Mr. Todd the "satanist/druid/witch" guy) Alberto Rivera is the one that Chick seems to be really hanging onto, insisting that the campaign to discredit him (conducted by mainline Protestants and Catholics alike) is part of a Jesuit conspiracy smear campaign. his "ministry" republishes a lot of conspiracy books, maybe even Riplinger's, but I can't be sure of that still today
XSC3 2 years ago
If one needs further proof that Alberto Rivera was a fraud, there is a video on youtube of him telling his story and supporting the ideas of a Seventh Day Adventist. I don't know if Jack Chick has ever condemned the SDA's, but with his theology you'd think he'd consider them a false cult. If Rivera would support them, wouldn't that imply he wasn't working for the "right side," but was an opportunist looking for publicity and a little cash?
XSC3 2 years ago
@XSC3 Chick can make more money with slander against the Church. Why deal with an organization that just has a false prophet and no sound Bible doctrines :)
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Bingolly, you were Southern Baptist? I just always guessed that you converted from Seventh Day Adventism, based on the focus of many of your videos. Live and learn.
BaronGrackle 2 years ago
@BaronGrackle Yes I was Southern Baptist. I focus on the SDA because of their slander of the Catholic Church. Also others use their material and just adjust it to meet their needs. By debunking the SDA slander you debunk others as well. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
As Protestant and having been raised to believe Jack Chick's conspiracy-based religion it seems prudent to strongly encourage fellow Protestants to engage in actual research regarding the Catholic church.
As a starting point perhaps one might be interested in viewing "The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization." It is avilable at my channel.
Mechanized0 2 years ago 2
Good Job...Rich...thank you for sharing the Vid...GBU
TheVeiledCatholic 2 years ago
well said!
Protestantism is a religion of man. Many people take things seriously within protestantism, yet they are not in Christ's Church
TheEcumenator 2 years ago
Bingolly1,
What a great posting. Thank you for your work.
Aside from my other endeavors, after 30 years as a professional Liturgical Musician I can concur with your perspective here as regards to the mainline Protestants at least.
5 years Presbyterian
1 year Methodist
5 years Episcopalian
5 years Congregational
20 years in Jewish synagogues, both of the "Reformed" and the "Conservative" traditions
20 years Catholic
Catholic, but blessed to have been exposed to these various worship traditions.
ProdigalSonship 2 years ago 2
@ProdigalSonship Thanks very much for posting that information. I feel it will be helpful for others to see. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Wow! You should share your story on YouTube. Maybe it will help some people.
heroeswillneverdie 2 years ago
@heroeswillneverdie I hope it does and tanks for comment.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
@heroeswillneverdie ... I agree with you...
TheVeiledCatholic 2 years ago
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Did you know that the user Mapollo personally attecked me using dementia and alzhiemers as a tool to do so?
Even after I told him a family member of mine suffered from dementia he continued to do so.
Hardly the actions of a Christian.
GaraGambini 2 years ago
@GaraGambini I would have to see it to believe it. I know mapollo and do not believe he would do such a thing.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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Why don't you go and have a good reada throught the comments on 'why you should be a catholic' then you will see the TRUTH for yourself.
Do you think I just decided to come on here and make that up for a laugh?
GaraGambini 2 years ago
Yes
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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Jesuit Oath:
''My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits.......''
Disgusting!
GaraGambini 2 years ago
@GaraGambini I see you are very ignorant and promote hatred among people. You are one of the idiots I am referring to in my video. There is stil hope for you though since Jesus has not yet returned.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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I see you are very ignorant and you refuse to believe the facts. I live in a country that thousands of people have died through IRA terrorism backed by the Roman Catholic Church.
Do you want me to post what those members of the IRA said themselves about the actions of their Church?
Again, you can't talk if you haven't experienced it, sorry.
GaraGambini 2 years ago
@GaraGambini Take your hatred other places. Your hatred shows in every comment you make. I have seen your kind many times.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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Sadly for Protestantism lilly livered slack jawed people like you will be taken in and fooled by Rome.
It seems to me that you are almost there. Why don't you go that little bit further and have two Holy Fathers?
GaraGambini 2 years ago
The IRA is funded and backed by the Vatican?
If you're going to go that route, I guess we should blame the KKK on your Protestant brothers.
The Vatican has spoken out AGAINST violence for years and years. So if you're going to accuse them of being hypocritical and sending support to active terrorist organizations, PROVE IT please.
XSC3 2 years ago
The irony is that extreme conspiracy theorists fundies such as Jack Chick actually accuse the Jesuits with having created the KKK. Of course, Mr. Chick also blames the creation of practically every evil political ideology or religious creed ever devised by man on the Catholic Church.
His accusations often do not appear to even pass the common sense test.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
@Mechanized0 But when his accusations are geared toward people who do not have common sense they need not pass the test. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
@Mechanized0, good point. Most of Chick's theories come from various "expert witnesses," people who have approached him to sell them their stories as "former insiders" of various groups who now have "seen the light" and embraced the true faith (ie: fundamentalist protestantism of the baptist variety). nearly all of them have been proven frauds (but he still believes what appeals to his prejudices). his "expert" for Catholicism was the alleged ex-Jesuit Alberto Rivera.
XSC3 2 years ago
Hi Bingolly, what do you mean by 'conspiracy theology" as Theology is literally "the Study of God"..? (theologia)
aarancel 2 years ago
@aarancel There are some who build their Theology or study of God around conspiracy such as the movie 2012. Here one has a conspiracy of some kind and fits their theology into their conspiracy. Others see the Catholic Church as evil and build their beliefs on conspiracy concerning the Church. It filters over into their theology or thinking about God. Tanks
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Thanks for clarifying that, have a good day
aarancel 2 years ago
If you had lived in a country that witnessed the evils of the Roman Catholic Church and its polices first hand.
Its involvment in supporting terrorism, sex abuse and treason etc.
Then perhaps you would be in a better position to talk on the matter.
GaraGambini 2 years ago
@GaraGambini If you had any grey matter between your ears you might actually learn the truth.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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GaraGambini 2 years ago
@GaraGambini Thanks for proving my points in the video. Your hatred is just what I refer o when I talk about conspiracy theology. Repent while it is not to late. I forgive you of your hatred.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Catholics don't "worship" images, relics or the cross, Gambini. What "Temporal Power" does the Pope have these days anyway? The selling of indulgences is forbidden. "Tradition established as infallible authority" is misleading (implying ALL tradition is somehow infallible).
Calling the other things "corruptions of God" and "errors" remains to be proved. Can you do it, or just spew out the usual objections?
XSC3 2 years ago
There are typically three books that Protestant Fundies utilize as evidence for their accusation. As follows:
*The Two Babylons
*New Age Bible Versions
*The Secret History of the Jesuits
The authors of the three books respectively are Alexander Hislop, Gail Riplinger, & Edmund Paris.
These are not the only ones but obviously among the most cited ones.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
@Mechanized0 I believe Labarum312 has ripped Riplinger apart and the other two are sources no honest person would used since they have been debunked so many times. Thanks
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Ironically, I completed viewing Larbrum312 videos on the subject of G. A. Riplinger's book just last night. The purpose of my post was simply to list the most popular works that have been utilized, erroneous or otherwise, as a basis for their arguments.
Larbrum312 did provide some excellent rebuttals to Riplinger's thesis. The videos are highly recommended.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
@Mechanized0 Thanks for the post and explanation. The sources you listed, as you well know, are used by many people. Thanks
Bingolly1 2 years ago
yeah, all Alberto River did is take the information one could get from those three books and claimed that he was an "insider" ("I used to be one") and therefore can confirm the rumors are true (but only based on his "eyewitness testimony") not on any verifiable evidence, because it's all "secret," wink, wink.
Another is "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" by Charles Chinquay (also wrote "The Woman and the Confesional") and "the Awful Discourses of Maria Monk" (most now realize this is a fraud)
XSC3 2 years ago
Yes indeed. "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" is one I had carelessly neglected to add.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
Speaking of conspiracy theories there's some really far out theories about the Jesuits. It's logical why they would demonize the Jesuits since they were the strongest threat against protestantism during the times of the reformation.
WintersAscension 2 years ago 2
@WintersAscension Some Protestant groups actually believe that Jesuits have entered their ranks to destroy them. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
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Jesuit Oath:
''My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits.......''
GaraGambini 2 years ago
GaraGambini the troll is cutting and pasting straight from Ian Paisley's site once again.
He thinks if it's on the internet, it's got to be true. What a naive, gullible fool.
182RG 2 years ago
Just google "jesuit oath debunked". There is a site called "evangelizationstation(dot)com that deals with this fraud. Conspiracy theorists are so gullible.
labarum312 2 years ago
Indeed Bingolly. Further, conspiracy theologists (an excellent term if I may say so) such as Jack Chick believe that the Jesuits and RCC created the following religions & political ideologies:
*Fascism
*Communism
*Masonry
*Islam
*Mormonism
Another erroneous claim includes the idea that the Inquisition[s] were responsible for the extermination of some 68 million people. The entire population of Europe during the High Middle Ages never exceeded 20-30 million, thus the charge is absurd.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
I had gone to various sources to add up the numbers once. I arrived at a similar number as you did. The number, as you pointed out, exceeded the number of people in Europe at the time. Thanks. I might do a video on this soon.
Bingolly1 2 years ago
One source, the name of which currently escapes me, places the number of Inquisition victims at 95 million; an obvious impossibility.
Mechanized0 2 years ago
Yeah, and back in the early 2000's I remember hearing a very specific claim of "68 million baptists killed by the Church in the dark ages," after which the baptists were forced to live in caves.
XSC3 2 years ago
I was about to comment that Chick was an equal opportunity libelist against groups he considers false (ie: non-KJV only, non-fundamentalists), but although he has tracts attacking Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, witches/pagans, homosexuals, masons, new age, hippies/drug culture/free love, hindus, muslims, etc. he has more single tracts (and comics) directly attacking the Catholic Church, more books on that topic, and then there are various scattered potshots against the CC in his other works.
XSC3 2 years ago
Bing...
What a great testimony. I, likewise, have never heard anything negative about non-catholic churches within the Catholic Church. Your words are very revealing and edifying...the entire Youtube community can and should learn from you. Well said and well done.
P+B
mapollo 2 years ago
@mapollo Thanks Mapollo. I thought it was time for me to do something like this. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago
Bing, your story would be great to hear on EWTN's The Journey Home. The Journey Home is a show in which former protestants (and others) tell thier story of conversion to the Roman Catholic Church.
Kelp25 2 years ago
@Kelp25 I would loved to be contacted by someone to do just that. It would be great. GBU
Bingolly1 2 years ago