the wikileaks heros said clearly that there was a massive "missinterpretation" of the mails in the mainstream media, abused by so called "sceptics" - (who are not a bit sceptic at all... its about confusing the public...3 days before copenhagen...)
I upload this statement soon.
Man made Climate change is fuckin real, and its threatening our planet.
Even if AGW were not real..but we know it is.., there is the dramatic(!) ocean acidification going on, caused by co2.
Svar på denne video ... It is a big deal the whole thing. Try to see this presentation by Peter Taylor who is a previous green peace activist. He is still an active environmental champion. We all want to better and preserve nature and a safe environment no matter what. search the title of the video: Peter Taylor presents Climate Change: The Alternative View
Looking at the 1st code shown makes me think the computer models' code should also be looked at - it likely has similar fudges, when the output wasn't acceptable. I'm only speculating, and I know CRU didn't do any model code, but the thinking at CRU is VERY likely to have been shared among the climate modelers, too. The models are where a HUGE amount of the money goes. The vested interest to show warming is strongest there.
The adjusted data is to do with tree ring divergence from other measurements and how the tree ring data has been phased out in a combined temperature reading.
The point being that everyone seems to think this has only come to light because of the hacked emails, but this fact was written about by these very scientists in their own paper. They point it out and say that it needs further investigating, so everyone who thinks the hacking has uncovered something are quite mistaken.
Think of all the brilliant scientists whos lives have been destroyed. Their excellent work was discredited by this corrupt system of science. They deserve their day in court plus financial restitution.
Hi Joe, you're right... Just like past history, they'll be used and then discarded like everyone else (they ARE expendable, but they should be more fearful because the elites don't want a paper trail).
Amazing thing information is. Glad to see the Plebs now can think for themselves. This will be the death of mainstream media and the beginning of the blogosphere. Unless the government bails them out.
Being just kind of curious - supposing in an economic downturn where all of science is being seen as an extravigance and your job is on the chopping block - you think "a scientist" would not understand the value of blackmail to save his grants? His share of "Government money" to, say, his kids education, dental bills and his standing at the country club. Get a grip or a life. Real scientists are people - just people. Foulable, and by definition capeable of mistakes for the sake of learning.
One of [the BBC's] reporters has revealed he was sent some of the leaked emails from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia more than a month ago but did nothing about them. It revealed apparent attempts by the CRUs head, Professor Phil Jones, to destroy global temperature data rather than give it to scientists with opposing views Paul Hudson failed to report the story.
The reason they are not published is because these people are actively working to prevent them being published. Evidence of that collusion abounds in the leaked emails. Sadly, it looks like this IS how science works at the CRU.
For some reason youtube isn't displaying my own comment to me. However, I remember that I had asked "why" scientists would want to fudge the data. I also pointed out that throughout history there has been struggles in the scientific community with new data, especially if a theory has been debunked. However, when a theory has been debunked, it is. Sometimes it takes a while for everyone to accept it, but there has never been a cover-up. Just look up the history of Aether in science.
I can't see your original comment either for some reason. In any case, the "why" here is politics and money. A lot of this research is funded by organizations which are expecting certain results. Essentially, if these researchers don't tell their sponsors what they want to hear, they lose their funding and their jobs. Science is itself a noble profession when approached objectively, but like anything else, it can be corrupted. The ones to look at are those who commissioned and funded the work.
There are many people with money who don't like these results as well. Unless it can be established that pretty much the entire scientific community that is involved in this matter has been paid off, then I don't see a reason to assume so. If I heard about a peer reviewed paper that questioned or refuted the claims about global warming, then I would consider it a credible complaint. There is a lot of money going into disproving them, so it's clearly not just an issue of what the money wants.
Read Chomsky. To manufacture consent doesn't need a backroom deal. Just an influential group of otherwise unrelated individuals with common interests, values, and assumptions. And, viola, biases get baked in the cake and pass as fact. One example: Do you think most climate scientists ever investigate the possible errors in individual bits of data that corresponded with their assumptions as closely as they do to explain away data that diverges? What happens when this is repeated X 1000 or so?
That is a problem, obvious. However, because of how peer review works, eventually the error would be pointed out. Until that happens, it's best to assume the theory currently considered the best is the best theory we have. When someone finds the error, and fixes the theory, we will use that new information as our basis of assumption and bias. No conspiracy here.
That's why data should be shared freely, with critics. When you assume your conclusions are correct, and this assumption is backed up by the fact that so many others assume the same, you can think you're justified in simply dismissing critics and even finding ways to shut out critical voices, rather than putting your ideas to the test by engaging with opposing viewpoints. Which brings us away from scientific knowledge and back to religious faith. Like I said, no conspiracy needed.
Pretty sure Stalin didn't have much libertarian in him... or much socialism for that matter.
I don't like strongmen, myself. Don't like government or military strongmen. Don't like corporate or business strongmen. Don't even like academic or scientific strongmen, as per the topic of this thread.
My brand of libertarian socialism?
"Warning to the self appointed dictators of knowledge, truth, and power: Don't tread on me. And don't tread on us, either."
A "libertarian socialist" when you go over their beliefs actually align with the democrat platform. Libertarianism and Socialism are polar opposites. As a member of the Libertarian Party I find the idea repugnant.
@purechaos2000 me too, and honestly i think indepedents might lack conviction if you want to get right down to it, i also heard the constitution party has a lot of greeny links on their pages, have you seen these, and are they front groups for one world gov? i'm gonna have to follow up myself i guess, see my top link today
Iam sick and tired of my tax dollars going to aholes like this to lie to me just so they can take more of my tax dollars!!! our goverment knows they have a bias peer review practice and still accepted their lies, this is america i shouldn't be like this!!.
The trees and plants of our Planet breath CO2 carbon dioxide. This is Biology 101. Didn't you take this class in high school? Plants give off oxygen which you and I breath. If CO2 is reduced, then LESS oxygen for you, me, and all the animals and butterflies on Earth. This is not complicated folks.
This video is on computer programing. Most excellent evaluation. If your not a professional in in the science, then emotional comments will not be considered valid. This is a very good video for people in the high tech industry. I also like the intro music too. It calls attention to the viewer to really listen to the information being provided.
One of the BEST videos I've seen! I'm a tech guy designing microchips at Intel. And yes, I like the intro music as well. Thanks again for the great video. Good science.
There are a lot, maybe billions, of Cave-Dwellers out there! Believe me, they are everywhere. They think their safe with their heads in the sand, but that leaves something else exposed! Please help these challenged beings they need a kick to free their heads.
In looking at my demographics for this video, it appears most are men over 40.
While I think this is great, since that is the most politically active demographic, I suppose they don't find the Blade Trinity sound track all that enjoyable haha.
Perhaps I'll change the track in my next video to elevator music or 1970s rock.
the numbing effect of this discovery is one to infuriate anyone who loves life and freedoms. I hope to see a worldwide civil unrest and incarsarate these evildoers.
Wjat about SABOTAGE? Yep, I think so! What am I talking about that make me think such a (gasp) conspiracy? This: Google these search terms 'Nasa launch Feb 2009 failed' And you get...
NASA - NASA's Launch Of Carbon-Seeking Satellite is Unsuccessful
Feb. 24, 2009. RELEASE : 09-039. NASA's Launch Of Carbon-Seeking Satellite is ... WASHINGTON -- NASA's Orbiting Carbon Observatory satellite failed to reach ...
LOL.. you can read the emails and download the attachments at multiple sites. The people in the emails admitted the emails are theirs and do not appear to be edited or changed at all. You don't need a "quotemine" all you need is the ability to read and use google. Or like a lot of us, you can go outside and tell the temps are cooling. Or pick up an almanac and see record temps and when they occurred. Sorry if you ever believed any of this global warming BS.
I want people who cmade the bold claims about fraud to properly base their accusations ins stead ogf making wild claims whilst referring to 'the mails'. It is not MY task to find the mail they base their slander on.
2. The earth is not cooling.
3. Almanac? In Holland almanacs PREDICTED weather for a year. Please elaborate.
Who is the denier now? LOL. You climate cultists make me laugh. Yes, the earth is getting cooler. Your priests Phil Jones and Michael Mann even discussed it in the emails if you ever go read them.
Go to any almanac and it tells you the previous 100 years of record temps high and low. It is all over the place. Know why? Because our climate has been changing since recorded history, on it's own. It has warmed before and it has cooled before. It always will.
If that clown we have in the White House was in any way honest and legitimate he would slam the brakes on treaties, spending, and bills pertaining to this huge climate FRAUD - but he will press on because this is a 'crisis' that serves his purpose - namely, redistributing American wealth and subordinating our nation to world authorities in the name of the environment. If Obama does not bail out immediately on taking action based on this proven FRAUD then he is equally guilty of this FRAUD.
Not a coder here,,Just wanted to ask,say these guys decide they need a climate model,would they outsource the job to a coder or create it themselves with a specialist climate coder? Im only thinking if it was just the guy who designed the model was just lazy or incompetent..or he was told to make the model do x y z ?
Based on my understanding and the comments in the code and statements in emails, the climate researchers themselves are versed in Fortran, AWK and other programming methods for data processing and modelling.
yeah this is alarming when you read comments like this in someone's code. but from one coder to another, if you're thoroughly objective and have worked with a lot of "raw" data before seeking to generate aggregates from the base soup of figures, there are known statistics/scientific methods of ignoring some of the extreme data that would throw aggregates off. alarming here, yes, I agree, but I think we need to understand their vocabulary before we draw conclusions, frankly.
The revenue governments,states ,corporations depend on by keeping us addicted to their lucrative fossil fuel products as filthy as they are will be the downfall of our beautiful
You may be interested in Googling "The HADCRU code as from the CRU leak" by L' Ombre de l'Olivier on the same subject suedeslounge. It looks likely that the real shit is in the code. Time will tell. Cheers.
The HOAX-KEEPERS are too far into this to back down. It will be interesting to watch in the days, weeks, months, and years ahead. These slimy criminals are going to squirm. Wiggle you worms!
Gavin Schmidt one of the plotters in his blog says ",, There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, .. no marching orders from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords..."
The emails do reveal that since 1990, Phil Jones has collected staggering 13.7 million British pounds ($22.6 million) in grants. Maybe he could loan George Soros a quid or two?
And how much has Gavin collected for his climate research I wonder?
alex jones must follow this through now, it is crucial, this is a significant victory and he must demand legal and public action and take this mainstream, along with his other evidence of illegal government activity.
he must do this RIGHT AWAY.
otherwise the government will quickly create a smokescreen and try to divert this through a false flag event or by some other means.
YOU!! Call your congressman and ask them to investigate or to get the GAO to see if their was any data used to argue the passage of Cap and Trade bill used from the CRU? If it was? DEMAND A RECALL OF CAP AND TRADE!!!!!
Great analysis, and yeah, its pretty clear from the code commenting that there are entire chunks of code designed to deliberately fudge the data expressed in the composite model.
This praxis is further validated by direct reference to associative methods in the emails, if that material is genuine, and it seems to be its damning stuff.
Why do i have a sinking suspicion that UN sources deliberately leaked this stuff though, so they could later say "look its all fake, and you were all excited."
Your gut seems to be working better than Dr Phil Jones' gut. He wrote (in one of the hacked/leaked emails):
Bottom line - their is no way the MWP (whenever it was) was as warm globally as the last 20 years. There is also no way a whole decade in the LIA period was more than 1 deg C on a global basis cooler than the 1961-90 mean. This is all gut feeling, no science, but years of experience of dealing with global scales and varaibility.
The carbon-trading schemes, and other emissions-based solutions presented by the ruling elites scientific doomsdayers, will not solve global warming. But, if they get their way, they will change the lives of people for the worse.
"I've just completed Mike's Nature [the science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
OH **** THIS. It's Sunday evening, I've worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I'm hitting yet another problem that's based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform data integrity, it's just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they're found.
From Phil Jones To: Michael Mann (Pennsylvania State University). July 8, 2004
"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
Well I've just spent 24 hours trying to get Great Circle Distance calculations working in Fortran, with precisely no success. I've tried the simple method (as used in Tim O's geodistpro, and the more complex and accurate method found elsewhere (wiki and other places). Neither give me results that are anything near reality. FFS.
Worked out an algorithm from scratch. It seems to give better answers than the others, so we'll go with that.
ARGH. Just went back to check on synthetic production. Apparently - I have no memory of this at all - we're not doing observed rain days! It's all synthetic from 1990 onwards. So I'm going to need conditionals in the update program to handle that. And separate gridding before 1989. And what TF happens to station counts?
The problem is that the synthetics are incorporated at 2.5-degrees, NO IDEA why, so saying they affect particular 0.5-degree cells is harder than it should be. So we'll just gloss over that entirely ;0)
THis underlines the peer review process not just in respect of climate change, but other pressing areas, especially those related to population reduction.
FOI2009.zip FTW
david52875 11 months ago
Bravo. The majority of gw-bots are too ignorant to understand this trail.
GoodTimeTraveler 1 year ago
the wikileaks heros said clearly that there was a massive "missinterpretation" of the mails in the mainstream media, abused by so called "sceptics" - (who are not a bit sceptic at all... its about confusing the public...3 days before copenhagen...)
I upload this statement soon.
Man made Climate change is fuckin real, and its threatening our planet.
Even if AGW were not real..but we know it is.., there is the dramatic(!) ocean acidification going on, caused by co2.
watch?v=ok_Wm3nN54w
aerobique 1 year ago
@aerobique don't be an idiot.
suedeslounge 1 year ago
@suedeslounge
i try..i try..
aerobique 1 year ago
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Floxflow 4 months ago
Svar på denne video ... It is a big deal the whole thing. Try to see this presentation by Peter Taylor who is a previous green peace activist. He is still an active environmental champion. We all want to better and preserve nature and a safe environment no matter what. search the title of the video: Peter Taylor presents Climate Change: The Alternative View
Floxflow 4 months ago
i recon u got a hangover.
51b4 1 year ago
the corruption is coming out dudes!
look at the stuff going on theres more to learn about other corruption on my
page dude but this was good watch im subbing you man
beingPOISONED 1 year ago
the corruption is coming out dudes!
look at the stuff going on theres more to learn about other corruption on my
page dude but this was good watch im subbing you man
beingPOISONED 1 year ago
Looking at the 1st code shown makes me think the computer models' code should also be looked at - it likely has similar fudges, when the output wasn't acceptable. I'm only speculating, and I know CRU didn't do any model code, but the thinking at CRU is VERY likely to have been shared among the climate modelers, too. The models are where a HUGE amount of the money goes. The vested interest to show warming is strongest there.
TravelerDiogenes 1 year ago
You only read the hacked emails or did you read the report too?
cypress1337 2 years ago
The adjusted data is to do with tree ring divergence from other measurements and how the tree ring data has been phased out in a combined temperature reading.
The point being that everyone seems to think this has only come to light because of the hacked emails, but this fact was written about by these very scientists in their own paper. They point it out and say that it needs further investigating, so everyone who thinks the hacking has uncovered something are quite mistaken.
LukeWhitehorn 2 years ago
Nice Analysis!!
CammieSpectrum 2 years ago
Think of all the brilliant scientists whos lives have been destroyed. Their excellent work was discredited by this corrupt system of science. They deserve their day in court plus financial restitution.
weslingm 2 years ago
Great Work. Nice to know we have people in numerous fields to analyse this data
dvalentino007 2 years ago 2
"Artificially adjusted". Wait until the global government "artificially adjusts" your freedoms, and expropriates your property.
joe80dman 2 years ago 8
Hi Joe, you're right... Just like past history, they'll be used and then discarded like everyone else (they ARE expendable, but they should be more fearful because the elites don't want a paper trail).
praeeo 2 years ago 2
@praeeo: I don't think the Elite care about a paper trail, do they? Who will indict them? They own the courts.
joe80dman 2 years ago
Amazing thing information is. Glad to see the Plebs now can think for themselves. This will be the death of mainstream media and the beginning of the blogosphere. Unless the government bails them out.
sundancekid122 2 years ago 3
I love how the source code has that segment that is commented out that would fudge the data, but as its commented out, it doesnt actually run :)
Neeboopsh 2 years ago
yeah, it actually does run, that's the whole point.
the removal of the proxy data post 1960 is the fudge.
suedeslounge 2 years ago
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@suedeslounge your nonsense has been debunked.
Aanthanur 9 months ago
I'm pretty sure real scientists don't "artificially adjust" their data to please their political masters: Democrats.
o88ooo88o 2 years ago
Being just kind of curious - supposing in an economic downturn where all of science is being seen as an extravigance and your job is on the chopping block - you think "a scientist" would not understand the value of blackmail to save his grants? His share of "Government money" to, say, his kids education, dental bills and his standing at the country club. Get a grip or a life. Real scientists are people - just people. Foulable, and by definition capeable of mistakes for the sake of learning.
Snowflake70 2 years ago 2
One of [the BBC's] reporters has revealed he was sent some of the leaked emails from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia more than a month ago but did nothing about them. It revealed apparent attempts by the CRUs head, Professor Phil Jones, to destroy global temperature data rather than give it to scientists with opposing views Paul Hudson failed to report the story.
TheTempestSpark 2 years ago
that's BS. Hudson only recieved a copy of an email concerning his article. Ie he was involved in the email chain at the time.
Way to go stiring up BS though
cthulhu11111111 2 years ago
LOL. sory I forgot to Leave my source. for this quote.
By Mail On Sunday Reporter
28th November 2009
SEARCH: "BBC weatherman ignored leaked climate row emails"
it's on the dailymails site.
TheTempestSpark 2 years ago
it's wrong, shoddy journalism. Hudson was forwarded an email from the scientists at the time, he wasn't given any emails by the hacker.
cthulhu11111111 2 years ago
I see, Thanks for putting me right on that. did you manage to find the article allright?
TheTempestSpark 2 years ago
The reason they are not published is because these people are actively working to prevent them being published. Evidence of that collusion abounds in the leaked emails. Sadly, it looks like this IS how science works at the CRU.
FreemanicParacusia 2 years ago
For some reason youtube isn't displaying my own comment to me. However, I remember that I had asked "why" scientists would want to fudge the data. I also pointed out that throughout history there has been struggles in the scientific community with new data, especially if a theory has been debunked. However, when a theory has been debunked, it is. Sometimes it takes a while for everyone to accept it, but there has never been a cover-up. Just look up the history of Aether in science.
ScissorHand26 2 years ago
I can't see your original comment either for some reason. In any case, the "why" here is politics and money. A lot of this research is funded by organizations which are expecting certain results. Essentially, if these researchers don't tell their sponsors what they want to hear, they lose their funding and their jobs. Science is itself a noble profession when approached objectively, but like anything else, it can be corrupted. The ones to look at are those who commissioned and funded the work.
FreemanicParacusia 2 years ago
There are many people with money who don't like these results as well. Unless it can be established that pretty much the entire scientific community that is involved in this matter has been paid off, then I don't see a reason to assume so. If I heard about a peer reviewed paper that questioned or refuted the claims about global warming, then I would consider it a credible complaint. There is a lot of money going into disproving them, so it's clearly not just an issue of what the money wants.
ScissorHand26 2 years ago
Read Chomsky. To manufacture consent doesn't need a backroom deal. Just an influential group of otherwise unrelated individuals with common interests, values, and assumptions. And, viola, biases get baked in the cake and pass as fact. One example: Do you think most climate scientists ever investigate the possible errors in individual bits of data that corresponded with their assumptions as closely as they do to explain away data that diverges? What happens when this is repeated X 1000 or so?
jeremyemilio 2 years ago
That is a problem, obvious. However, because of how peer review works, eventually the error would be pointed out. Until that happens, it's best to assume the theory currently considered the best is the best theory we have. When someone finds the error, and fixes the theory, we will use that new information as our basis of assumption and bias. No conspiracy here.
ScissorHand26 2 years ago
That's why data should be shared freely, with critics. When you assume your conclusions are correct, and this assumption is backed up by the fact that so many others assume the same, you can think you're justified in simply dismissing critics and even finding ways to shut out critical voices, rather than putting your ideas to the test by engaging with opposing viewpoints. Which brings us away from scientific knowledge and back to religious faith. Like I said, no conspiracy needed.
jeremyemilio 2 years ago
Scissorhand
What peer review, they only read the report and have no access to the data or code.
MichaelMann007 2 years ago
my dear chomsky is a libertarian SOCIALIST, sad, isn't it
justanothersheeple 2 years ago
Ummm... why's that sad? I'm a libertarian socialist, myself. Intellectual consistency throws you for a loop, does it?
jeremyemilio 2 years ago
yeah, you and stalin are about the same on the political scale, disgusting
justanothersheeple 2 years ago
Pretty sure Stalin didn't have much libertarian in him... or much socialism for that matter.
I don't like strongmen, myself. Don't like government or military strongmen. Don't like corporate or business strongmen. Don't even like academic or scientific strongmen, as per the topic of this thread.
My brand of libertarian socialism?
"Warning to the self appointed dictators of knowledge, truth, and power: Don't tread on me. And don't tread on us, either."
jeremyemilio 2 years ago
A "libertarian socialist" when you go over their beliefs actually align with the democrat platform. Libertarianism and Socialism are polar opposites. As a member of the Libertarian Party I find the idea repugnant.
purechaos2000 2 years ago 3
@purechaos2000 me too, and honestly i think indepedents might lack conviction if you want to get right down to it, i also heard the constitution party has a lot of greeny links on their pages, have you seen these, and are they front groups for one world gov? i'm gonna have to follow up myself i guess, see my top link today
justanothersheeple 2 years ago
The Wikipedia article on this subject is almost laughably demonstrative of the panic that alarmists have fallen into trying to bury this.
This is the single biggest scam ever perpetrated on mankind.
FreemanicParacusia 2 years ago
Iam sick and tired of my tax dollars going to aholes like this to lie to me just so they can take more of my tax dollars!!! our goverment knows they have a bias peer review practice and still accepted their lies, this is america i shouldn't be like this!!.
cupster07 2 years ago
well done....its a bitch being had....and we've all been had big time. these guys need to be sued and RUINED.
also: Keep your kid out of Penn State. One of the big three in this farce is a paid professor there. No F-in way my kid goes to this phony school
s6u6r6f6 2 years ago
The trees and plants of our Planet breath CO2 carbon dioxide. This is Biology 101. Didn't you take this class in high school? Plants give off oxygen which you and I breath. If CO2 is reduced, then LESS oxygen for you, me, and all the animals and butterflies on Earth. This is not complicated folks.
SirMacDee 2 years ago
Climategate = more CO2 is ok or CO2 does not have a greenhouse effect? Not.
Comments in the hacked e-mails won't change the fact that we are harming the planet wtih rampant burning of fossil fuels.
orionds09 2 years ago
good job dude! :D
atwali 2 years ago
Nicely said.
Well done!
NonInflatable 2 years ago
This video is on computer programing. Most excellent evaluation. If your not a professional in in the science, then emotional comments will not be considered valid. This is a very good video for people in the high tech industry. I also like the intro music too. It calls attention to the viewer to really listen to the information being provided.
SirMacDee 2 years ago
One of the BEST videos I've seen! I'm a tech guy designing microchips at Intel. And yes, I like the intro music as well. Thanks again for the great video. Good science.
SirMacDee 2 years ago 4
There are a lot, maybe billions, of Cave-Dwellers out there! Believe me, they are everywhere. They think their safe with their heads in the sand, but that leaves something else exposed! Please help these challenged beings they need a kick to free their heads.
1islandcowboy 2 years ago
Your videos would be more convincing without the awful musical/title intro
Porkularpie 2 years ago 2
In looking at my demographics for this video, it appears most are men over 40.
While I think this is great, since that is the most politically active demographic, I suppose they don't find the Blade Trinity sound track all that enjoyable haha.
Perhaps I'll change the track in my next video to elevator music or 1970s rock.
suedeslounge 2 years ago
hey! im 40 and i love the soundtrack! ;D
atwali 2 years ago
That's because you are cool and have good taste.
suedeslounge 2 years ago
We just had one of the coldest summers since the 1800's.
jonvssocrates 2 years ago
the message from al gore, the government and the climategate scientists: Fraud and lying is ok.
All of those messages we try to teach our children - lying is wrong, cheating on tests is wrong... out the window.
All the messages we tell college students and grad students - honor, integrity, the purity of science - out the window.
Our government and their marxist lapdog scientists are guilty of the world's biggest fraud..
BeyondNeptoon 2 years ago
Awesome video. =o)
Thanks for the info.
noladol 2 years ago 2
fabulous.
very articulate.
i like this guy a lot.
& im not even gay.
gudster 2 years ago 2
the numbing effect of this discovery is one to infuriate anyone who loves life and freedoms. I hope to see a worldwide civil unrest and incarsarate these evildoers.
robwiley01 2 years ago 2
The AP assigned 11 reporters to 'fact check' sarah palin's book, how many will they assign to 'fact check' the greatest hoax in scientific history?
jfs5555 2 years ago 12
Not only AP, none of the other media lapdogs will put it up either.
Would like to eat my words but I don't think I will.
search4truth1 2 years ago
"use"
DarkwingScooter 2 years ago
The of modelling should be banned from all science.
DarkwingScooter 2 years ago
Let's crank it up a notch...
Wjat about SABOTAGE? Yep, I think so! What am I talking about that make me think such a (gasp) conspiracy? This: Google these search terms 'Nasa launch Feb 2009 failed' And you get...
NASA - NASA's Launch Of Carbon-Seeking Satellite is Unsuccessful
Feb. 24, 2009. RELEASE : 09-039. NASA's Launch Of Carbon-Seeking Satellite is ... WASHINGTON -- NASA's Orbiting Carbon Observatory satellite failed to reach ...
patp2 2 years ago
I actually wrote about that on my science blog when it happened - and I fully agree.
The destruction of that satellite reeks of sabotage to me.
suedeslounge 2 years ago
On the programming: you are just following your gut feeling as you have no clue what data this is about.
MrFacet 2 years ago
Hey MrFacet you are just following your intestinal denial like a good little conformist leftwingnut.
patp2 2 years ago
Could you link to a complete mail in which is said what you say they say or are you just copying the anonymous sources quotemines?
MrFacet 2 years ago
LOL.. you can read the emails and download the attachments at multiple sites. The people in the emails admitted the emails are theirs and do not appear to be edited or changed at all. You don't need a "quotemine" all you need is the ability to read and use google. Or like a lot of us, you can go outside and tell the temps are cooling. Or pick up an almanac and see record temps and when they occurred. Sorry if you ever believed any of this global warming BS.
purechaos2000 2 years ago
I want people who cmade the bold claims about fraud to properly base their accusations ins stead ogf making wild claims whilst referring to 'the mails'. It is not MY task to find the mail they base their slander on.
2. The earth is not cooling.
3. Almanac? In Holland almanacs PREDICTED weather for a year. Please elaborate.
MrFacet 2 years ago
Who is the denier now? LOL. You climate cultists make me laugh. Yes, the earth is getting cooler. Your priests Phil Jones and Michael Mann even discussed it in the emails if you ever go read them.
Go to any almanac and it tells you the previous 100 years of record temps high and low. It is all over the place. Know why? Because our climate has been changing since recorded history, on it's own. It has warmed before and it has cooled before. It always will.
Have fun denier.
purechaos2000 2 years ago
If that clown we have in the White House was in any way honest and legitimate he would slam the brakes on treaties, spending, and bills pertaining to this huge climate FRAUD - but he will press on because this is a 'crisis' that serves his purpose - namely, redistributing American wealth and subordinating our nation to world authorities in the name of the environment. If Obama does not bail out immediately on taking action based on this proven FRAUD then he is equally guilty of this FRAUD.
townhall05446 2 years ago 2
Excellent presentation, well done!
order9066 2 years ago
Amen Brother!
When I saw them manipulating the function to achieve their "desired" results, I immediately figured out what they were doing as well.
To simply sum up the global warming farce, I say:
IT'S OVER! PERIOD!
tomjohnson2009 2 years ago
Living in a cave = Watching mainstream news media
Just saying, they don't report anything the government and big businesses don't want them reporting.
DaUndagroundRailroad 2 years ago
Gd Damn Outstanding result eh?
Great presentation too.
Typamango 2 years ago 2
Not a coder here,,Just wanted to ask,say these guys decide they need a climate model,would they outsource the job to a coder or create it themselves with a specialist climate coder? Im only thinking if it was just the guy who designed the model was just lazy or incompetent..or he was told to make the model do x y z ?
JONBOMBED 2 years ago
@JONBOMB
Based on my understanding and the comments in the code and statements in emails, the climate researchers themselves are versed in Fortran, AWK and other programming methods for data processing and modelling.
ShinyChuck 2 years ago
Hmmm. Intro Music strange...
richardrmartineau 2 years ago
Climate change believers need to find a new religion.
This is science fiction!
acdc1954 2 years ago 6
yeah this is alarming when you read comments like this in someone's code. but from one coder to another, if you're thoroughly objective and have worked with a lot of "raw" data before seeking to generate aggregates from the base soup of figures, there are known statistics/scientific methods of ignoring some of the extreme data that would throw aggregates off. alarming here, yes, I agree, but I think we need to understand their vocabulary before we draw conclusions, frankly.
vutEwa 2 years ago
Great job! Thank you for breaking it down for us. The old adage holds true: follow the money.
dabruin2 2 years ago 4
Hide The Decline
ahem....pass it on
AlexMadsen87 2 years ago 4
Hide the decline.
FreeAgain2 2 years ago 3
Thanks. This video is so important.
Add some text bubbles to ask folks to rate,comment and share so it can get more viewes.
You have done a great thing here.
Resistance is victory.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 2 years ago
Living in a cave or watching the mainstream media...both people have not heard about this scam.
amberpoovey 2 years ago 3
The revenue governments,states ,corporations depend on by keeping us addicted to their lucrative fossil fuel products as filthy as they are will be the downfall of our beautiful
environment as we've known it.
Phick you OPEC, Exon,BP....
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millersxtremedepot 2 years ago
manbearpig needs to be in jail
chemicalovercast 2 years ago
We must have a VIDEO of manbearpig being frog marched to prison.
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DAILEYericCaryUSA 2 years ago 2
Amazing Vid! Thanks for your hard work!
HKDapper 2 years ago 2
This is a reason that Rockefeller did not want there to be net access to people like you and me so they could hide truth.
booku4 2 years ago
I LOVE this video
soilworkr 2 years ago
Psychopathic Global Warming?
These scientists are deeply distrubed and mentally unstable people and look at the influence they have in the world.
I always knew that this Peer Review concept was just censorship and nothing else.
nonearthlychildren 2 years ago 4
You may be interested in Googling "The HADCRU code as from the CRU leak" by L' Ombre de l'Olivier on the same subject suedeslounge. It looks likely that the real shit is in the code. Time will tell. Cheers.
MaverickMediaUK 2 years ago 2
The HOAX-KEEPERS are too far into this to back down. It will be interesting to watch in the days, weeks, months, and years ahead. These slimy criminals are going to squirm. Wiggle you worms!
SilenceFriction 2 years ago 6
thanks for sharing your research with us, crazy days we are living in
evcrawfish 2 years ago
Gavin Schmidt one of the plotters in his blog says ",, There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, .. no marching orders from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords..."
The emails do reveal that since 1990, Phil Jones has collected staggering 13.7 million British pounds ($22.6 million) in grants. Maybe he could loan George Soros a quid or two?
And how much has Gavin collected for his climate research I wonder?
Richnz00 2 years ago 2
Well said!
contestshipper 2 years ago
Great Video
DavidAMonte 2 years ago
right on. the truth here is as obvious as the light in the day time.
MyCashDynasty 2 years ago
Nice job!
marksky57 2 years ago
"It's botch after botch after botch."
One of my favourite comments from the code.
73elephants 2 years ago
alex jones must follow this through now, it is crucial, this is a significant victory and he must demand legal and public action and take this mainstream, along with his other evidence of illegal government activity.
he must do this RIGHT AWAY.
otherwise the government will quickly create a smokescreen and try to divert this through a false flag event or by some other means.
cujo9 2 years ago
YOU!! Call your congressman and ask them to investigate or to get the GAO to see if their was any data used to argue the passage of Cap and Trade bill used from the CRU? If it was? DEMAND A RECALL OF CAP AND TRADE!!!!!
hazzzer 2 years ago
'thousands and thousands of email"? nope, 1037 to be exactly. did you even bother to download the zip?
gertomaniac 2 years ago
3485 documents, 1079 e-mails
I said emails AND documents.
From what I understand, more is yet to be released.
suedeslounge 2 years ago
Yes, you're right, I apologize.
"more is yet to be released." -> where do you have this info from?
are you sure you're a software develepor? what languages are codes in? one looked like fortran to me, but i didn't look at it closely yet.
nb: having the text prompter above the cam makes you look rather weird.
besides, i agree with you, that what has been exposed is outrageous, stunning and unexceptable.
gertomaniac 2 years ago
the climate hoax is so huge its just unbelievable
SPREAD THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW
ENJOYOURMATRIXX 2 years ago 2
Ha Ha! Good stuff dood.
Vinseneb 2 years ago
Great analysis, and yeah, its pretty clear from the code commenting that there are entire chunks of code designed to deliberately fudge the data expressed in the composite model.
This praxis is further validated by direct reference to associative methods in the emails, if that material is genuine, and it seems to be its damning stuff.
Why do i have a sinking suspicion that UN sources deliberately leaked this stuff though, so they could later say "look its all fake, and you were all excited."
diogeneslaertius666 2 years ago
@diogeneslaertius666
my gut says its authentic though.
diogeneslaertius666 2 years ago
Your gut seems to be working better than Dr Phil Jones' gut. He wrote (in one of the hacked/leaked emails):
Bottom line - their is no way the MWP (whenever it was) was as warm globally as the last 20 years. There is also no way a whole decade in the LIA period was more than 1 deg C on a global basis cooler than the 1961-90 mean. This is all gut feeling, no science, but years of experience of dealing with global scales and varaibility.
"No science", indeed!
73elephants 2 years ago
The carbon-trading schemes, and other emissions-based solutions presented by the ruling elites scientific doomsdayers, will not solve global warming. But, if they get their way, they will change the lives of people for the worse.
LoveAndLiberty1776 2 years ago 2
Gotta love ya kid your great , very nice info . thx
leskat69 2 years ago
From: Phil Jones. To: Many. Nov 16, 1999
"I've just completed Mike's Nature [the science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
PikeSdream 2 years ago
OH **** THIS. It's Sunday evening, I've worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I'm hitting yet another problem that's based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform data integrity, it's just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they're found.
From the CRU data set 'HARRY READ ME txt'
PikeSdream 2 years ago
From Phil Jones To: Michael Mann (Pennsylvania State University). July 8, 2004
"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
PikeSdream 2 years ago 4
From: Kevin Trenberth (US National Center for Atmospheric Research). To: Michael Mann. Oct 12, 2009
"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't... Our observing system is inadequate"
PikeSdream 2 years ago
Well I've just spent 24 hours trying to get Great Circle Distance calculations working in Fortran, with precisely no success. I've tried the simple method (as used in Tim O's geodistpro, and the more complex and accurate method found elsewhere (wiki and other places). Neither give me results that are anything near reality. FFS.
Worked out an algorithm from scratch. It seems to give better answers than the others, so we'll go with that.
From the CRU data set 'HARRY READ ME txt'
PikeSdream 2 years ago
ARGH. Just went back to check on synthetic production. Apparently - I have no memory of this at all - we're not doing observed rain days! It's all synthetic from 1990 onwards. So I'm going to need conditionals in the update program to handle that. And separate gridding before 1989. And what TF happens to station counts?
From the CRU data set 'HARRY READ ME txt'
PikeSdream 2 years ago
The problem is that the synthetics are incorporated at 2.5-degrees, NO IDEA why, so saying they affect particular 0.5-degree cells is harder than it should be. So we'll just gloss over that entirely ;0)
From the CRU data set 'HARRY READ ME txt'
PikeSdream 2 years ago
great vid man
SaveOurSovereignty3 2 years ago
does anyone notice how slow youtube is after 3pm?
SwerVQE 2 years ago 3
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tompscalif 2 years ago
all the sappers and good atgs are gone, the ETs are in the AB, but we can still win with just rifles, if we can just get people to WAKE UP!
mouser98k 2 years ago
Thank you for the video.
xo4ty 2 years ago
Thanks for your work, we don't need UN AGENDA 21 push by the elites created fears of global warming.
Robodoon 2 years ago 3
Nice greak down and analysis.
Thanks!
BoKnowsEntertainment 2 years ago
THis underlines the peer review process not just in respect of climate change, but other pressing areas, especially those related to population reduction.
Great post, thanks
pondman27 2 years ago
nice great video ty ty ty
malex0171 2 years ago 2