Buddy, if you knew anything at all about the teachings of Islam you'd find out that when Islam takes over you'll be the first one they come after. You're so weak!
David Horowitz is a pathological liar. He's a wanna be David Brock, but not nearly as insightful. A zionist asshole, and he himself is nothing but a fascist. Makes me want to gag.
When the fuck are you libtards going to wake up, when a muslim is cutting your head off and maybe then you'll believe Islam is at war with us? 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Mumbai, honor killing, stonings, global jihad, rioting...
Fuck I wish liberals lived in another country so when muslims conquered you as they're doing to Europe, I'd laugh and say "you called us crazy and now look at you bowing down to their medieval god."
In the 30s your type laughed about Nazism and we got WW2 now its WW3-Islam.
Stoning is practiced in muslim states-its in the Hadiths-there's a video in my profile of a modern day stoning but keep spinning your lies and self-delusions Josh.
Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretend its not happening...its all just a big right wing conspiracy started by George Bush to demonize those innocent jihadists who are fighting for 'freedom'.
Easier to believe that than the truth that we're at war with Islam right? Horowitz was shut down by Islamists/leftist fascists.
You ever pick up a Quran Josh Marshall, or see any one of the 1000s of jihadists videos on YouTube...or do you plug your ears and close your eyes and start singing like a 2 year old anytime anyone suggests Islam is a credible threat and a fascist totalitarian ideology like Nazism bent on global conquest?
Seriously I wish you liberals lived in your own country because your type is destroying ours as we speak with that cowardly pro-muslim dumbass in power right now.
Sarah Palin is going to win it. Not all feminist are the stereotypical cookie cutter tree hugger type. we are the republican conservative type, much smarter than men, blacks, and democrats. nobama. Palin is the rock star now, no longer is obama. now even the incompetent macho redneck types will have to vote for a woman, they don't have a choice. YESSSS!!!
The flyer, while it had satirical elements, was not satire- it was a deliberate attempt to undermine the event by making it seem that the flyer was from the sponsors themselves.
teachmike, everyone on the right seems soooooooo agry all the time. Where does all that hate and anger come from? Really, have you considered a psychiatrist? I think what you need is pity, a straight jacket and HEAVY dose of thorazine. I feel sorry for your obvious MENTAL DISORDER which is indicative of the right wing.
Jeff Marshall, like all liberals,does not argue issues, he calls people names. Sneering is not a legitimate political stance. Just because the original poster of the woman being buried is from a movie, it does not mean such things do not happen. THEY DO! Marshall questions Horowitz's motives and methods, but never what he says. Horowitz is a brilliant and serious man. This man is unserious and his comments are useless for any sort of serious discussion.
Horowitz uses the term very precisely. "Facist", means those who seek to impose their views on others by any means, including physical, to support a view that they deem "correct." It is not a meaningless term, though the left has tried to make it one. "Fascism" is the opposite of free speech. The whole purpose of the flyer was to shut down free speech by subterfuge. It was dishonest in the extreme. You, like the person in the video do not argue ideas, you try to sneer. You are pathetic.
That's not the meaning of fascism. Horowitz is using it as a simple-minded derogatory term, just as many philosophers have warned would happen. It has a much more precise meaning, hammered out by historians like Stanley Payne. Basically, you've reduced this important concept to a playground insult. "You fascist!"
OK, what is the meaning of "Facism" according to Stanley Payne? Other than the state runs everything? You brook no disagreement. Horowitz is an extremely serious and thoughful man and to say that he uses the term flippantly is ridiculous. Besides, who in the last 50 or so years has used the term the most, conservatives or liberals? Bush is a Fascist! Cheney is a Facist! Reagan was a Facist! Conservatives are facists! Give me a break.
Fascism has a number of characteristics, including anti-unionism, disciplining capitalism, insistence on patriotism and loyalty, purging of minorities, charismatic leaders, fear-mongering, national chauvanism, suppression of organized religion, attacks on intellectuals and artists, etc. Horowitz is a dolt. I don't care who has been using it more, I only care who is using it correctly. Stop being a partisan idiot.
Your definition sounds exactly like what the Islamic radicals preach! (Though I have no idea what "disciplining capitalism" means, and they wish to purge every religion except their own.) Thanks for confirming Horowitz for me! By the way, have you actually read any of his books? I doubt it.
I read "Unholy Alliance" and "Indoctrination U". Both crap. The definition of fascism differs from radical Islamist movements in several key areas. Fascism does not privilege org relg (sometimes destroys it) and is "progressive," whereas these movements are conservative-reactionary. Islamist movements aim at a transnational caliphate, fascism is the nation-state uber alles. Islamist movements proselytize others, fascism only eradicates them. You're not looking at this clearly at all.
It is easy to mobilize people against muslims by using this term, because they are constantly portrayed as sub-human savages in the media, and people accept this without question, but most muslims aren't fascists or terrorists, and most dictators in arab countries are propped up by the US, and the militant islamists, bad as they may be, are not trying to take over the world (for the most part), they're trying to free their countries from outside influence.
Thats fine. Why don't we have a Zionist World Conspiracy awareness week? Or how about a Protocols of Zionism awareness weak? Or what about a Holohoax Awareness week?
God bless David Horowitz. Violent conversion and conquest is at the very heart of Islam's reason for being, just read the last 50 pages of the Koran. All religions that promote the conversions of others to their faith are problematic to humanity including Christianity. The arrogance of these cults to think that everyone should be converted to their faith or suffer the consequences.
"Violent conversion and conquest is at the very heart of Islam's reason for being, just read the last 50 pages of the Koran".
Well that's news for my mother A CHRISTIAN who marry my father who is a Muslim and my grandmother and MILLIONS of her fellow CHRISTIANS who live freely practicing their religion (In Indonesia which is a country of 80% Muslim).
Are you a shoe bombing kind of Muslim? You know, not your garden variety. If not, then you must be a nihilist, because Horowitz is battling the extremist Muslim that wants to kill you and me- conversion by the sword- and you childishly belittle Horowitz. Not to mention that his stuff is very FACTUAL. Also, you didn't read Radical Son. It's obvious so maybe you shouldn't label him ignorant of the Left. You might want to read up on things before you criticize them. Wake up, witty boy.
Islamofascism is real but not what it's trumped up to be by the right. Any violent theocracy is a religiofascist nation. Some US states lean towards Christofascism (where the police threaten violence against atheists and such).
Fascism is simply the imposition of an ideology or lifestyle through brute force if necessary, strict rules if possible. Fascism is not an evil in itself, but becomes a vehicle for evil in most cases in which it's used.
Of course, by that definition there is no question whatsoever that the Bush Administration is fascist. I'd prefer the world without fascist governments, no matter what ideological alignment they have. I'd love to see the day when both Islamo and Christo fascism are gone, which would probably require the disappearance of their parent religions, since faith breeds fundamentalism.
Actually, violent Theocracy can be as evil as fascism, but they are as different as Hydrochloric Acid is to Sulphuric Acid. Fascism, according to the guy who first created it, is the merger of the corporation with the state. Theocracy is the merger of religion with the state. Christofascism and Islamofascism are fake words meant to muddy up the REAL meaning of fascism, which has the side benefit of making fascism harder to recognize.
Israel would've been suicide-bombed into the Mediterranean without the US. Horowitz is a Jew defending Israel. Think about it. Bin Laden financed 9/11. No quotes needed. He did that over US troops in the Holy Land before 9/11? Find Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist terrorism that even rivals Muslim terrorism. Ahmadinejad: "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
Because Saddam was already tied in with the terrorists. He did unspeakable things to his own people but apparently you didn't want to do anything about that. He had terrorist training camps within his country and he paid money to the families of people who blew up Jews.
The commentator states that Horowitz picks silly opponents to argue with, but the only example of Horowitz arguing is with Alan Colmes. Horowitz is (quite correctly I think) objecting to the "Hate Muslims?" flyer that was circulated prior to the week's activities, in an effort to discredit the discussions before they started.
In McCarthy's time there was a GREAT danger of communist subversives, hundreds of them working for the government and many in high level positions. The Venona files released by the Russians proved this without a doubt. Maybe you should read some history.
Because the House UnAmerican Activities Committee was a completely separate entity from McCarthy. Name one person whose life McCarthy ruined. They were not working together. Do some history checking. And see how many people's lives were ruined when they were put in holding camps by FDR during WWII.
True, but that just makes the McCarthy comparison hold even better.
The more passionate/zealous someone is, the less likely they're using reason to guide them. It seems that Horowitz is moving further from rational thought than Josh of TPM Media. This is not a good time in history to stop thinking.
Interesting video-maybe a compelling discussion of Islamofascism Week. But this is just another diatribe lacking any intellectual seriousness. Daniel Pipes is wrong because he is an advisor to Giuliani? Wow what insight. Where is the discussion that Islam does not have a problem with radical Salafist philosophies? Have you never heard of the Moslem Brotherhood or the Baathist movement? Try studying the history of the modern Middle East- Bernard Lewis would be a good start
Since you are from Indonesia, the Bali bombings were committed by..... Further, Fascist movements in Croatia, Spain and Slovakia were identified as Catholic-Fascist. Do you think the Moslem Brotherhood is benign? Stick to the question
No, because they were completely going against Christian doctrine...terrorists aren't. I think you'd better read both the Koran and the New Testament before making further wrong statements.
Well as a matter of fact i have a Christian mother AND a Muslim father back in Indonesia so i know both books can be used to justify terrorism when taken out of context.
It didn't forbid homosexuality except among the brotherhood of believers. It states quite plainly that many members Paul was writing to used to be temple prostitutes, both men and women, and he doesn't call for violence against them. You have just presented a very week argument. The Koran goes into detail about how to wage violence, and demands you wage violence, against nonbelievers. And it was Jew who were the first Christians. C'mon..you can do better than that.
no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life over the last 4 years than the right wing hate group known as the republicans lead by its leader george w puss
If you wanna be honest with me and answer my questions, then ill give you respect, and ill answer any question you want, but if your not gonna respect me enough to answer my questions, and be honest with me, the we have nothing to discuss.
I appreciate your honesty, you are a very nice, articulate, intectually honest person. I shall enjoy chatting with you sir.
I must admit, im torn between jihadists, and islamo facism because both want to kill all jews, but perhaps jihadists, because jihadists want to kill all not just jews.
Some whacked out people all over yes, i dont want people to hate muslims, but i dont want to have to say not all muslims every time i say islamic terror either
over the last 4 years no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life than the rihgt wing hate group called republicans. led by its nazi leader george w puss
And important, to see if your a fair minded person, or just another left wing zealot, who cannot be reasoned with.
over the last 4 years no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life than the rihgt wing hate group called republicans. led by its nazi leader george w puss
Now please explain to me how Islamic terrorism become Islamofascism while Christian terrorism (abortion center bomb, Atlanta bomb) doesn't become Christiofascism hmm?
First of all, thank you for being honest. we can now discuss any topic you like.
Now please explain to me how Islamic terrorism become Islamofascism while Christian terrorism (abortion center bomb, Atlanta bomb) doesn't become Christiofascism hmm?
How many invectives are contained in this video? I lost count - and it's the typical lefty approach - denigrate your opponent rather than argue the facts. Do you portend that Islamo-Fascism doesn't exist?
David Horowitz is great at making himself look like a clown. There is no such thing as Islamo-fascism nor is there such a thing as a War on Terror. We have troops in Iraq because we were sold a collection of falsities about WMD. However, since we also wrecked Iraq, many argue we need to stay and rebuild. This is the Pottery Barn rule, not a war.
You can describe them as jihadists, radical Muslim, fanatics etc. but there is no Islamo-fascist doctrine. This is just a made up term to try and equate our war against the Islamic world with WWII, same with the "axis of evil" comment.
Its pretty sad to see how the Jews like Horowitz and others on that list of speakers are doing the same thing to the muslims as Nazis did to the jews. History repeats itself, ex: 'Islamo facism week' = Nazi propaganda, 'Guantanamo' = Concentration camps, 911 = Nazi staging false flag operations in Berlin.
The newscast of this, bless the remark, "news program" has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. The allegation that Horowitz intentionally gets into fights with loons to later claim a victim status is simply beyond belief in its ridiculousness. Guess what? Just this week he was SHOUTED DOWN by a group of radical leftist loons while trying to deliver a scheduled speech. The left lies, as usual.
He was mocked out. He walked out and was not forced out. He feared. Left lies, but not as much as the right today. Shouting down is the 911-truthers and Cindy's followers job...
Right, a racist, sexist, state-rights conservative homophobe who wants the state to control the womb and believes state governments have the right to criminalize private sexual conduct between consenting adults is the answer to the neoconservatives. (Good grief)
It's liberals who are racist and sexist (Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum, quota systems). And if liberals are so supportive of gays, why do they defend people like Guevara, Khomiein, and Ahmadinejad?
"And if liberals are so supportive of gays, why do they defend people like Guevara, Khomiein, and Ahmadinejad?".
I don't know Guevara is against gays and as for Ahmadinejad do you missed the part where he was RIDICULED by the liberal college students when he spoke about there's no gay in Iran?
"the underlying principle remains the same: Muslims are intolerant and oppress women, homosexuals, Christians, Jews and anyone who's not Muslim and then hide behind the West's own laws of tolerance as if they're an oppressed minority." this is such a straw man!! If u knew ur history you would not say such things...
Is the left so irrational? One minute the commentator is condemning Mr. Horowitz and then he says, as if in total agreement, let us know what you're doing this week. Man, is he sly or stupid? Who knows or cares. Just hope he's not gay because the Islamofascists would hand him his ass.
Okay, that was blatantly sarcastic. Judging by your favorites, I'm going to say you're being serious.
All I can say is wow. Way to pick up sarcasm. You've got a real knack for picking up subtle expressions that underline what is sarcastic and what is serious.
Hey, BlindEyeJones, the guy wants to know what we're doing to make a *mockery* of the week, if we're doing anything at all. He's also given out his e-mail knowing that he's gonna hear from people who disagree with him, which shows more bravery than Pres. Bush, who historically has not allowed anybody who disagreed with him into his town hall meetings to ask him questions.
Hey Josh, you are a dishonest cock-sucker. You claim a poster of a woman being stoned to death is fake. But you say nothing about the photo of the woman about to get her head blown off. Is that fake too? Are you saying that women are not stoned and homos are not killed in sharia-law nations? Why do you defend people who want to cut your homo throat?
"Are you saying that women are not stoned and homos are not killed in sharia-law nations? Why do you defend people who want to cut your homo throat?".
Did Josh really say that or do you just like to insult with ad hominem based on strawmen?
I will explain my comments to you as if you were a 5-year old. Josh is trying to discredit Horowitz by claiming a poster used by him is not real. The real issue is that women and homos are killed. Josh does not address Horowitz's main point. Josh launches a personal attack on Horowitz but says absolutely nothing about the veracity of Horowitz's claims. Do you get it now?
The atrocities committed by islamo-fascits are not "irrelevant". Their long-term goal is world domination by islam and sharia law. They want to impose their barbarism throughout the globe. This is why OBL attacked America. Not because of military bases, the Palestinian problem, price of oil, etc. This is Horowitz's message. You fascist liberal idiots try to silence Horowitz because you cannot respond to his valid and accurate allegations. Do you get it now?
"They want to impose their barbarism throughout the globe. This is why OBL attacked America. Not because of military bases, the Palestinian problem, price of oil, etc".
Well then how come the very liberal countries like France, Netherlands, Sweden even Canada have never been attacked by OBL if he hates freedom so much hmm?
Oh i know it's because they don't have bases in middle east nor meddle with price of oil etc.
Theo Van Gogh was killed by a crazy individual. Scandinavia, there was relative calm despite protests. Riots happened in France, but it was a racial issue not a religious one. They violently demanded for better rights and less discrimination not an Islamic state. Those guys think they are 50 Cent like gangstas not OBL's Mujheideen. Islamo - facism is a right wing dream, terrorism is a reality. Those idiots are NOT facists. They are scum.
When a group tries to muzzle speech that they do not agree with, that is fascism. The term "liberal fascist" is an accurate description of Josh and his ilk.
You have convinced yourself that it is only a co-incidence that the vast majority of terrorist acts are committed by moslems. You will not convince me.
Liberal Facist? BS. Josh is a damn good journalist and he exposes people with facts and not bullshit. You are influenced by rightwing stupidity. Facism is totally different.
Censorship is an essential component of fascism. Josh does not even attempt to contradict Horowitz. He only wants to take away his constitutional right of free speech. And that is why your "damn good journalist" is a fascist cock-sucker.
He is practicing Free Speech and so are you and me. Duh! Learn English! This guy is a damn good journalist as I said he challenges Horowitz with facts, and not just emotion! This guy is not making things up. You are by saying that he is a fascist. He is LEFT-wing. A complete difference from Fascist. Extreme RIGHT WING = Fascist; Extreme LEFT WING = Socialist.... Come on, get a brain.
Josh says "write us and tell us what you're going to do to honor islamo-fascist week" (wink wink). Well what they did at Emery University was disrupt the event to such a degree that Horowitz was unable to speak and the event was cancelled. You object to the term "left wing fascist"? Fine. How would you describe these fine people who deny others free speach?
You think he would stop you from writing what you think about it. Go and see it for yourself at this website. Horowitz was ridiculed to such an extent he feared being like Ahemnijabad at Columbia University. He was not forced out. That is not denying free speech!
The esteemed president of Iran was allowed to speak. Horowitz was not. I saw the video. But I have a question for you and all the other lefties reading this. I believe I have a the right to say, "fuck the prophet mohammed".
1. Do you agree?
2. Should I be censored?
3. Would you support the views of the vast majority of moslems who would say I should be killed.
You do have a right to say that. Not that you should. No one should criticize a religion. Again Horowitz walked out and was not forced out. Just like the way BillO waked out of Lettermen the first time. Say what you want they did it out of their judgment and choice, and were not forced. Lastly I am center/independent, not left.
According to islam any one who insults mohammed should be killed. Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others have a death sentence over their heads. But you think such a religion should not be critisized? And dont tell me that the mullahs who issued the fatwahs have misinterpreted their religion. They know their religion a lot better than you do.
"According to islam any one who insults mohammed should be killed. Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others have a death sentence over their heads".
No it's not according to Islam but according to a few fanatical Muslim cleric.
Just like Tinky Winky and Sponge Bob are not condemned by Christianity as gay icons but they were condemned by far right Christian fanatics like Falwell and Dobson.
I knew some one would say the religion was hijacked or some such nonsense. Bullshit, thats what the hadith says and the mullahs have interpreted it correctly. And yes Falwell was an idiot and Dobson continues to be an idiot. But I am talking about real people whose lives are in constant danger. Dont talk to me about fucking cartoon characters.
"I knew some one would say the religion was hijacked or some such nonsense. Bullshit, thats what the hadith says and the mullahs have interpreted it correctly".
Well then please cite me this "hadith" that justifies the fanatical cleric POV.
"But I am talking about real people whose lives are in constant danger. Dont talk to me about fucking cartoon characters".
All right how's this for real people:
Mordechai Vanunu, James Yee, That dutch guy who got renditioned and turned out to be INNOCENT.
The Quran copied that out of the Torah. You hear any Jew saying that? No. Why? It is because of they are better informed people. They know infidel is a person who is not in the way of Jewish morals and values; not like many imams who think it is not being Muslims. Iran and many Shi'ite put the fatwa on Salman Rushdie, plus he did not insult the Prophet. He questioned the authenticity of the Quran. I read his book, Satanic Verses.
So many Mullahs and so many views, bound to have misinterpretation. I interpret the Quran differently than another person would. Islam is not the enemy, misinformation is.
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Following elements are integral parts : nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to economic and political liberalism.[1][2][3][4][5][6] -- Wikipedia
What has OBL and his fellow butchers got to do with nationalism, statism, militarism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism? Muzzling of speech is called censorship, not facism. Most terrorists are muslim for a completely different reason....
Laleelo, they would if they could... They would do anything for the message and publicity. It has nothing to do with oil price or bases. They wanted to blow up an American naval base here and our airport communication tower. Why? We did nothing. But they want a reaction. They want fear instilled to get support from Muslim which means $ coming into thier coffers to do something even larger...
Both you and Laleeloolelo are taking this way out of proportion... Facist liberal? Girl, extreme left is called socialism. Extreme right is called facism. That is why Soviets never got along with Nazi or Pol Pot. People silence Horowitz because he is WRONG. Osama attacked USA becoz :1) He could not get to Israel. They are too good for him + he cannot control or influence Hamas like he does for virtually every other 80+ Sunni Islamic terror organisations.
2) Bill Clintion went after him, shot a missle, missed, hit his family, so things got personal. Bush is his wet-dream where he gets attention to his cause. 3) To be the figurehead of Islamic resistance after the passing away of Arafat. In that way, he can draw out the donations from Madrasah easier and can keep more in his pocket and army. 4) To test America's willingness to deal with him or his arch-enemy organisations like Iran and Hizbollah. Those are the most important reasons.
No. He still attacked Turkey, Jordan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Oman, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and most recently Qatar. He is at war with Iran over Waziristan. All these are Muslim states but he will find an excuse to attack anyone if he can. Want any more evidence?
1. Waziristan is a section of Pakistan and has nothing to do with Iran.
2. Thank you for making my point. Islamic extremists want to bring down all moderate governments that do not govern according to a strict interpretation of islam. You are in complete agreement with Horowitz and myself.
Waziristan is a part of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.... Turkey, Indonesia, Qartar and to a certain extent Pakistan and Iran are moderate. Saudi Arabia? Oman? Yemen? Think again. Walking around unveiled in Saudi Arabia can get you in prison. Sharia is the law there.
No you think again. Saudi Arabia has close ties to the U.S. and Bin Laden thinks they are selling oil to infidels at too low a price. That is why they are attacked. They are not crazy enough for the ISLAMO-FASCISTS.
No you think again. Saudi Arabia has close ties to the U.S. and Bin Laden thinks they are selling oil to infidels at too low a price. That is why they are attacked".
That's funny because SA also sells oil that way to other liberal countries and yet those countries haven't been attacked by OBL.
maybe the fact those countries don't have military base in Islamic countries or meddle in middle east affair has something to do with it.
You are at the other end man! They would attack any county that they can. It is all for their own agenda. It is not anything to do with a military base. Why do you thing that they want to attack my country that did no wrong to them or have no base anywhere in the world. Their ans: We trade with US and recognize Israel? How true do you think that is?
As I said, OBL would just find any excuse to attack. Why do you think majority of the 911 attackers are Saudis? Because their state is run by imams and madrasahs, many of them loathing America and Israel. 2ndly as I said, Islamo-Fascism is a right-wing BS and propaganda!
Very interesting viewpoint. I presume that if you had been alive during the bombing of Pearl Harbor you would have been pissed off at the British and blamed them for being the biggest danger to world peace instead of the axis powers.
"presume that if you had been alive during the bombing of Pearl Harbor you would have been pissed off at the British and blamed them for being the biggest danger to world peace instead of the axis powers".
If the Brit attack Spain for the retaliation instead of Germany then..Yeah.
By the way WW2 was won under Democratic President AND Congress.
Gee those liberals sure are unpatriotic cowards aren't they? Hyuk hyuk.
Oh Christ...they're irrelevant because they usually don't present a threat. The Bush administration was careless enough to give them an opening that they exploited in 2001 (if it's really all Clinton's fault instead of Bush's, why was there no attack *on U.S. soil*--not counting embassies, obviously--during the Clinton years?). There is no way this relatively small group of extremists is going to conquer the whole friggin' world, so calm down.
Oh, that's mature. "You're wrong and...you're gay! And now I'll call you gay again!" The very fact that in this day and age you're using "cocksucker" and "homo" as slurs exposes you as prejudiced (not the same as racism--look it up--but just as bad) against gay people. So you've forfeited any credibility you might've had. Now that I know you're prejudiced, I can't help but wonder if your warnings about the Muslim Menace are based in fact, or just small-mindedness.
Most liberals fear the likes of David Horowitz and Christoper Hitchens because they know this might be them when they actually grow up and abandon Marxism as a failed political theory.
Did you just really use the terms "ad hominem" and "strawman" in the same sentence? You should have went for the liberal trifecta, and flopped out Halliburton.
Since when are liberals so peaceful? They're the ones who advocate violence. Ever see a conservative rally result in a riot or a bombing? Ever see a conservative rally for a gangbanger, terrorist, or copkiller?
I don't think liberals are upset at anyone who denounces radical Islamists, but not all Muslims are radical. Leftist groups do not make excuses for terrorism. There is no excuse for terrorism. Righties think Islam = terrorism.
Buddy, if you knew anything at all about the teachings of Islam you'd find out that when Islam takes over you'll be the first one they come after. You're so weak!
mikaylaboo1 1 year ago
David Horowitz is a pathological liar. He's a wanna be David Brock, but not nearly as insightful. A zionist asshole, and he himself is nothing but a fascist. Makes me want to gag.
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
When the fuck are you libtards going to wake up, when a muslim is cutting your head off and maybe then you'll believe Islam is at war with us? 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Mumbai, honor killing, stonings, global jihad, rioting...
Fuck I wish liberals lived in another country so when muslims conquered you as they're doing to Europe, I'd laugh and say "you called us crazy and now look at you bowing down to their medieval god."
In the 30s your type laughed about Nazism and we got WW2 now its WW3-Islam.
l1011l 2 years ago
Stoning is practiced in muslim states-its in the Hadiths-there's a video in my profile of a modern day stoning but keep spinning your lies and self-delusions Josh.
Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretend its not happening...its all just a big right wing conspiracy started by George Bush to demonize those innocent jihadists who are fighting for 'freedom'.
Easier to believe that than the truth that we're at war with Islam right? Horowitz was shut down by Islamists/leftist fascists.
l1011l 2 years ago
You ever pick up a Quran Josh Marshall, or see any one of the 1000s of jihadists videos on YouTube...or do you plug your ears and close your eyes and start singing like a 2 year old anytime anyone suggests Islam is a credible threat and a fascist totalitarian ideology like Nazism bent on global conquest?
Seriously I wish you liberals lived in your own country because your type is destroying ours as we speak with that cowardly pro-muslim dumbass in power right now.
l1011l 2 years ago
yes off course over 1billion people are all the same
so i suppose all christians don't believe in birth control
when will you right wing nuts stop generalizing
rexzre 2 years ago
David is right. You libs will find out you are wrong on almost everything. Long live you little commies!!!
Zresponder 2 years ago
LOL You couldn't tell us exactly what David is right about if your life depended on it. Go take your meds and lie down, balloon head.
LuvChaos 2 years ago
To bad Delhi didn't have an Islamo-fascism Awareness Week.
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feministLeader 3 years ago
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adammach10 3 years ago
The flyer, while it had satirical elements, was not satire- it was a deliberate attempt to undermine the event by making it seem that the flyer was from the sponsors themselves.
teachmike2000 3 years ago
teachmike, everyone on the right seems soooooooo agry all the time. Where does all that hate and anger come from? Really, have you considered a psychiatrist? I think what you need is pity, a straight jacket and HEAVY dose of thorazine. I feel sorry for your obvious MENTAL DISORDER which is indicative of the right wing.
fringefries 3 years ago
Jeff Marshall, like all liberals,does not argue issues, he calls people names. Sneering is not a legitimate political stance. Just because the original poster of the woman being buried is from a movie, it does not mean such things do not happen. THEY DO! Marshall questions Horowitz's motives and methods, but never what he says. Horowitz is a brilliant and serious man. This man is unserious and his comments are useless for any sort of serious discussion.
teachmike2000 3 years ago
... you mean like calling people "fascists", without any sense of what that term means?
zombiesoiree 3 years ago
Horowitz uses the term very precisely. "Facist", means those who seek to impose their views on others by any means, including physical, to support a view that they deem "correct." It is not a meaningless term, though the left has tried to make it one. "Fascism" is the opposite of free speech. The whole purpose of the flyer was to shut down free speech by subterfuge. It was dishonest in the extreme. You, like the person in the video do not argue ideas, you try to sneer. You are pathetic.
teachmike2000 3 years ago
That's not the meaning of fascism. Horowitz is using it as a simple-minded derogatory term, just as many philosophers have warned would happen. It has a much more precise meaning, hammered out by historians like Stanley Payne. Basically, you've reduced this important concept to a playground insult. "You fascist!"
zombiesoiree 3 years ago
OK, what is the meaning of "Facism" according to Stanley Payne? Other than the state runs everything? You brook no disagreement. Horowitz is an extremely serious and thoughful man and to say that he uses the term flippantly is ridiculous. Besides, who in the last 50 or so years has used the term the most, conservatives or liberals? Bush is a Fascist! Cheney is a Facist! Reagan was a Facist! Conservatives are facists! Give me a break.
teachmike2000 3 years ago
Fascism has a number of characteristics, including anti-unionism, disciplining capitalism, insistence on patriotism and loyalty, purging of minorities, charismatic leaders, fear-mongering, national chauvanism, suppression of organized religion, attacks on intellectuals and artists, etc. Horowitz is a dolt. I don't care who has been using it more, I only care who is using it correctly. Stop being a partisan idiot.
zombiesoiree 3 years ago
Your definition sounds exactly like what the Islamic radicals preach! (Though I have no idea what "disciplining capitalism" means, and they wish to purge every religion except their own.) Thanks for confirming Horowitz for me! By the way, have you actually read any of his books? I doubt it.
teachmike2000 3 years ago
I read "Unholy Alliance" and "Indoctrination U". Both crap. The definition of fascism differs from radical Islamist movements in several key areas. Fascism does not privilege org relg (sometimes destroys it) and is "progressive," whereas these movements are conservative-reactionary. Islamist movements aim at a transnational caliphate, fascism is the nation-state uber alles. Islamist movements proselytize others, fascism only eradicates them. You're not looking at this clearly at all.
zombiesoiree 3 years ago
It is easy to mobilize people against muslims by using this term, because they are constantly portrayed as sub-human savages in the media, and people accept this without question, but most muslims aren't fascists or terrorists, and most dictators in arab countries are propped up by the US, and the militant islamists, bad as they may be, are not trying to take over the world (for the most part), they're trying to free their countries from outside influence.
n8glenn 3 years ago
What, I never heard of it 8S Was Islamofacism day just past this April 19th??? :C Not a good campaign, he deserves to get satirized xDD
to the left to the left
lol
Th3ba1r0n 3 years ago
Your satire is weak at best and youre a tool. When your masters no longer need you, you will be discarded. Better learn to think for yourself bud.
LittleBigBadDaddy 3 years ago
Terrific video, veracifier. This is actually my first introduction to your channel. If Horowitz were given an enema you could bury him in a matchbox.
0letdown0 3 years ago
Horowitz is just a damn zionist. So is Pipes.
beckyfromkentucky 4 years ago
From your buddies in Islam:
1/3/2008 (India) Mujahideen abduct & execute a civilian.
1/3 (Pakistan) 6 people killed in violence between Sunni & Shia.
1/3 (Thailand) 44 yr old Buddhist is murdered by Muslim extremists.
1/3 (Thailand) local soldier dies from inuries suffered in a roadside bombing by militant Muslims.
1/3 (Thailand) Islamists gun down a 57-year-old civilian in the street.
1/3 (Iraq) - A woman is shot to death by fundamentalists for unIslamic activities.
sig0 4 years ago
brilliant! Hope you go further mate. Hilarious.
Focoist911 4 years ago
Thats fine. Why don't we have a Zionist World Conspiracy awareness week? Or how about a Protocols of Zionism awareness weak? Or what about a Holohoax Awareness week?
Focoist911 4 years ago
LOL!!!!!
AntiZionist1983 4 years ago
*standing ovation*
This video was on point and hilarious!
JDHURF 4 years ago 2
yo bro you ain't ever going to get into the news.
abutalaat 4 years ago
you are so gay
Campbell7204 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
If you do not copy and paste this onto 10 videos your mom will die in 4 hours
crimsonknight007 4 years ago
What? You never heard of the shining path before?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
God bless David Horowitz. Violent conversion and conquest is at the very heart of Islam's reason for being, just read the last 50 pages of the Koran. All religions that promote the conversions of others to their faith are problematic to humanity including Christianity. The arrogance of these cults to think that everyone should be converted to their faith or suffer the consequences.
stevespelling 4 years ago
"Violent conversion and conquest is at the very heart of Islam's reason for being, just read the last 50 pages of the Koran".
Well that's news for my mother A CHRISTIAN who marry my father who is a Muslim and my grandmother and MILLIONS of her fellow CHRISTIANS who live freely practicing their religion (In Indonesia which is a country of 80% Muslim).
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
There is violence wherever muslims border non muslims. LEFTIST IDIOTS!!!
jy768 4 years ago
"There is violence wherever muslims border non muslims".
Really? I don't know that there's violence between Malaysia or Indonesia or Brunei with the Philippines.
Who's the idiot now?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Are you a shoe bombing kind of Muslim? You know, not your garden variety. If not, then you must be a nihilist, because Horowitz is battling the extremist Muslim that wants to kill you and me- conversion by the sword- and you childishly belittle Horowitz. Not to mention that his stuff is very FACTUAL. Also, you didn't read Radical Son. It's obvious so maybe you shouldn't label him ignorant of the Left. You might want to read up on things before you criticize them. Wake up, witty boy.
mattlriddle 4 years ago
So you believe Horowitz claim that there's such a thing as Islamo Fascism eh?
May i ask you this, when in any speech, interview etc does Osama or even Ahmadinejad ever state that they want to kill us unless we convert?
Because from what i read the reason Osama wants to kill American is a) Military base in Saudi Arabia and b) US support for Israel.
Nothing about conversion there.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Islamofascism is real but not what it's trumped up to be by the right. Any violent theocracy is a religiofascist nation. Some US states lean towards Christofascism (where the police threaten violence against atheists and such).
Fascism is simply the imposition of an ideology or lifestyle through brute force if necessary, strict rules if possible. Fascism is not an evil in itself, but becomes a vehicle for evil in most cases in which it's used.
knowyourunknowns 4 years ago
Of course, by that definition there is no question whatsoever that the Bush Administration is fascist. I'd prefer the world without fascist governments, no matter what ideological alignment they have. I'd love to see the day when both Islamo and Christo fascism are gone, which would probably require the disappearance of their parent religions, since faith breeds fundamentalism.
knowyourunknowns 4 years ago
Actually, violent Theocracy can be as evil as fascism, but they are as different as Hydrochloric Acid is to Sulphuric Acid. Fascism, according to the guy who first created it, is the merger of the corporation with the state. Theocracy is the merger of religion with the state. Christofascism and Islamofascism are fake words meant to muddy up the REAL meaning of fascism, which has the side benefit of making fascism harder to recognize.
wschuber 4 years ago
Israel would've been suicide-bombed into the Mediterranean without the US. Horowitz is a Jew defending Israel. Think about it. Bin Laden financed 9/11. No quotes needed. He did that over US troops in the Holy Land before 9/11? Find Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist terrorism that even rivals Muslim terrorism. Ahmadinejad: "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
mattlriddle 4 years ago
"Find Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist terrorism that even rivals Muslim terrorism".
Er the Tamil Tiger? Shining Path?
"Ahmadinejad: "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
Which confirms my no 2 reason which has nothing to do with conversion.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Those are what we call "excuses". And for you to take Osama at his word shows your incredible naivity.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Well then if conversion is what Osama wants then why did he cooperate with CIA during Rusia-Afghanistan war eh?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
To get rid of the Russians. The enemy of my enemy is my friend...for now..heh heh.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend...for now..heh heh".
Well then why didn't Bush used that approach and allied with Saddam to fight AQ and Osama?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Because Saddam was already tied in with the terrorists. He did unspeakable things to his own people but apparently you didn't want to do anything about that. He had terrorist training camps within his country and he paid money to the families of people who blew up Jews.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
"He had terrorist training camps within his country and he paid money to the families of people who blew up Jews".
If that's true then why do we ally with Syria or the Saudis?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
The commentator states that Horowitz picks silly opponents to argue with, but the only example of Horowitz arguing is with Alan Colmes. Horowitz is (quite correctly I think) objecting to the "Hate Muslims?" flyer that was circulated prior to the week's activities, in an effort to discredit the discussions before they started.
chatillon52 4 years ago 2
David Horowitz has more intellectual integrity and courage in his little pinky then the blind weasel who made this video.
LennyWonder 4 years ago
People like Aayan Hirsi Ali have courage.
They are like Russian defectors warning America the danger of Communism.
Whereas people like Horowitz have hate and fear.
They are like McCarthy who uses the danger of communism to justify their hatred of people who believe differently than they are.
Understand the difference now?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
In McCarthy's time there was a GREAT danger of communist subversives, hundreds of them working for the government and many in high level positions. The Venona files released by the Russians proved this without a doubt. Maybe you should read some history.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Yes the dangers of communism was real during McCarthy's time but that isn't an excuse for his witch hunt which ruined many innocent people's life's.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
The witch hunt came from the House UnAmerican
Activities act passed by the congress. It was the congress, not McCarthy who ruined peoples lives.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
"It was the congress, not McCarthy who ruined peoples lives".
That's like saying it was the law not the crooked cops who put innocent people in jail who ruined people's lives.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
If you took the time to study your history you would see what a stupid statement you just made.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Well Cash why don't YOU explained why you think my statement is stupid.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Because the House UnAmerican Activities Committee was a completely separate entity from McCarthy. Name one person whose life McCarthy ruined. They were not working together. Do some history checking. And see how many people's lives were ruined when they were put in holding camps by FDR during WWII.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
"Name one person whose life McCarthy ruined".
Irving Peress, New York dentist, member of American Labor Party.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Incorrect, he is a huckster, and fraud, and a profoundly bigotted hate monger. He is human detritus, vile filth of the highest order.
andysnadden 4 years ago
True, but that just makes the McCarthy comparison hold even better.
The more passionate/zealous someone is, the less likely they're using reason to guide them. It seems that Horowitz is moving further from rational thought than Josh of TPM Media. This is not a good time in history to stop thinking.
knowyourunknowns 4 years ago
Have you ever heard of projection? YOu are practicing it big time here.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Interesting video-maybe a compelling discussion of Islamofascism Week. But this is just another diatribe lacking any intellectual seriousness. Daniel Pipes is wrong because he is an advisor to Giuliani? Wow what insight. Where is the discussion that Islam does not have a problem with radical Salafist philosophies? Have you never heard of the Moslem Brotherhood or the Baathist movement? Try studying the history of the modern Middle East- Bernard Lewis would be a good start
cheerfulcynic 4 years ago
"Have you never heard of the Moslem Brotherhood or the Baathist movement?".
Ever heard of Army of God? Christian Identity movement?
If the term Islamo Fascism is justified because of some fringe group then why isn't there a term like Christo Fascism because of their fringe group?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Since you are from Indonesia, the Bali bombings were committed by..... Further, Fascist movements in Croatia, Spain and Slovakia were identified as Catholic-Fascist. Do you think the Moslem Brotherhood is benign? Stick to the question
cheerfulcynic 4 years ago
"Do you think the Moslem Brotherhood is benign?".
No, but i don't think it's part of a larger "Islamo Fascism" scheme.
If it is then my mother AND her family WHO ARE CHRISTIANS would have been wiped out long ago.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Where are Christians blowing people up in order to convert the world,by force to Christianity?
jcashtbo 4 years ago
What?
Isn't Eric Rudolph or McVeigh or IRA Christians?
Sure they're not meant to convert but so does AQ.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
No, because they were completely going against Christian doctrine...terrorists aren't. I think you'd better read both the Koran and the New Testament before making further wrong statements.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Well as a matter of fact i have a Christian mother AND a Muslim father back in Indonesia so i know both books can be used to justify terrorism when taken out of context.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Explain to me how the NEW Testament can be "taken out of context" to torture and kill people.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
The part that forbid homosexuality (or sodomite) can be used as justification for violents against gays.
The part where the Jew crucify Jesus can be used to foment hatred against Jew and antisemitism.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
It didn't forbid homosexuality except among the brotherhood of believers. It states quite plainly that many members Paul was writing to used to be temple prostitutes, both men and women, and he doesn't call for violence against them. You have just presented a very week argument. The Koran goes into detail about how to wage violence, and demands you wage violence, against nonbelievers. And it was Jew who were the first Christians. C'mon..you can do better than that.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
Hey i said both books can be used violence IF TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life over the last 4 years than the right wing hate group known as the republicans lead by its leader george w puss
liberalk78 4 years ago
did you get that from move on dot schmuck or biased dot org?
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
"move on dot schmuck or biased dot org?".
Har har with a sense of humor like that you should be a writer for half hour news hour.
Oh yeah the show got canceled boo hoo.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
You wanna go on a really cool political message board,i belong to two you might like
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
If they are Free Republic and Red State then sorry but no thanks.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Look, i dont represent anyone.
If you wanna be honest with me and answer my questions, then ill give you respect, and ill answer any question you want, but if your not gonna respect me enough to answer my questions, and be honest with me, the we have nothing to discuss.
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
With all due respect, i didnt ask you about free republic or red state, or what they think.
im asking you, do you believe their are people in the islamic faith, who want to kill you and me because were not muslims.
Im down to discuss whatever, but if you wont even give me the courtesy, to tell me where you stand.
Why should i talk to you?
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
"im asking you, do you believe their are people in the islamic faith, who want to kill you and me because were not muslims".
Sure, but i don't think they are part of "Islamo fascism".
I think they are just more hardcore Muslim version of Westboro Baptist Church (so to speak).
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I appreciate your honesty, you are a very nice, articulate, intectually honest person. I shall enjoy chatting with you sir.
I must admit, im torn between jihadists, and islamo facism because both want to kill all jews, but perhaps jihadists, because jihadists want to kill all not just jews.
Some whacked out people all over yes, i dont want people to hate muslims, but i dont want to have to say not all muslims every time i say islamic terror either
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
That's a flat out fucking lie and you are a flat out fucking liar. Show the facts to prove that one and I will show you little green men from Mars.
jcashtbo 4 years ago
over the last 4 years no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life than the rihgt wing hate group called republicans. led by its nazi leader george w puss
liberalk78 4 years ago
Do you believe in islamic terrorism
Its a yes or no question.
And important, to see if your a fair minded person, or just another left wing zealot, who cannot be reasoned with.
over the last 4 years no one has caused more bloodshed and loss of innocent life than the rihgt wing hate group called republicans. led by its nazi leader george w puss
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
"Do you believe in islamic terrorism
Its a yes or no question".
Why yes yes i do.
Now please explain to me how Islamic terrorism become Islamofascism while Christian terrorism (abortion center bomb, Atlanta bomb) doesn't become Christiofascism hmm?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I did not see this...
"Do you believe in islamic terrorism
Its a yes or no question".
Why yes yes i do.
First of all, thank you for being honest. we can now discuss any topic you like.
Now please explain to me how Islamic terrorism become Islamofascism while Christian terrorism (abortion center bomb, Atlanta bomb) doesn't become Christiofascism hmm?
this is a good question.
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
I think the answer is in the numbers.
I do believe in all kinds of terrorism.
Jewish, christian, muslim, atheist.
The islamo facist term, i believe fair or unfair is used because of the number of acts and percentage of bad muslims committing the acts.
I know their are many good muslims, who deplore the acts of islamic terrorists.
Does my answer meet your satisfaction?, or should i say more?
do u want to ask another question?
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
How many invectives are contained in this video? I lost count - and it's the typical lefty approach - denigrate your opponent rather than argue the facts. Do you portend that Islamo-Fascism doesn't exist?
Makes me fear for the species.
CorkyMuldoon 4 years ago
"I lost count - and it's the typical lefty approach - denigrate your opponent rather than argue the facts".
Typical lefty approach?
May i remind you of Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
David Horowitz is great at making himself look like a clown. There is no such thing as Islamo-fascism nor is there such a thing as a War on Terror. We have troops in Iraq because we were sold a collection of falsities about WMD. However, since we also wrecked Iraq, many argue we need to stay and rebuild. This is the Pottery Barn rule, not a war.
Ewilds 4 years ago
Ewilds: are you serious?, what do you call bin laden, hamas, islamic jihad.
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
You can describe them as jihadists, radical Muslim, fanatics etc. but there is no Islamo-fascist doctrine. This is just a made up term to try and equate our war against the Islamic world with WWII, same with the "axis of evil" comment.
Ewilds 4 years ago
Ewilds, you are a very honest, nice, and intellectually honest person as well.
I shall enjoy debating you as well.
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago
Lol @ "Terrorism is a greater threat to the world than global climate change", those right wing nutjobs really give me a good laugh.
ididabarrelroll 4 years ago
Its pretty sad to see how the Jews like Horowitz and others on that list of speakers are doing the same thing to the muslims as Nazis did to the jews. History repeats itself, ex: 'Islamo facism week' = Nazi propaganda, 'Guantanamo' = Concentration camps, 911 = Nazi staging false flag operations in Berlin.
shaiharstine 4 years ago
shaiharstine = the dumbest mother fucker in the world.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
This time your ad hominem wasn't even based on strawmen.
Maybe you need to be "perfected".
That's an Ann Coulter inspired sarcasm in case you don't get the reference.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
shai: such idiots like you exist. but i dont see you rounded up yet.
Your so racist against jews.
he was speaking about bad muslims
maybe your too stupid to understand that?
actsnoblemartin 4 years ago 3
The newscast of this, bless the remark, "news program" has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. The allegation that Horowitz intentionally gets into fights with loons to later claim a victim status is simply beyond belief in its ridiculousness. Guess what? Just this week he was SHOUTED DOWN by a group of radical leftist loons while trying to deliver a scheduled speech. The left lies, as usual.
anbstudio 4 years ago
"Guess what? Just this week he was SHOUTED DOWN by a group of radical leftist loons while trying to deliver a scheduled speech".
What speech, where and shouted down by whom?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
He was mocked out. He walked out and was not forced out. He feared. Left lies, but not as much as the right today. Shouting down is the 911-truthers and Cindy's followers job...
PreetSG 4 years ago
Right, a racist, sexist, state-rights conservative homophobe who wants the state to control the womb and believes state governments have the right to criminalize private sexual conduct between consenting adults is the answer to the neoconservatives. (Good grief)
dissimulate666 4 years ago
It's liberals who are racist and sexist (Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum, quota systems). And if liberals are so supportive of gays, why do they defend people like Guevara, Khomiein, and Ahmadinejad?
StoogeWatcher 4 years ago
"And if liberals are so supportive of gays, why do they defend people like Guevara, Khomiein, and Ahmadinejad?".
I don't know Guevara is against gays and as for Ahmadinejad do you missed the part where he was RIDICULED by the liberal college students when he spoke about there's no gay in Iran?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
How many gay rights and feminist groups protested against Ahmadinejad? NONE!
StoogeWatcher 4 years ago
So? Unless Iran is America's 51st state why would they concern themselves?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
A seperation of church and state.
We'll never see it.
I have read this entire post, and have seen both sides throw words and phrases at each other defending their point fo view.
But do me a favor. Look at the root of all of this. The United States, has NO business, getting into the affairs of other nations.
Period.
Cut losses. Apologize. And take whats coming, cause in reality, we brought everything we are about to receive upon ourselves.
And folks, it's gonna hurt.
97Devils 4 years ago
"the underlying principle remains the same: Muslims are intolerant and oppress women, homosexuals, Christians, Jews and anyone who's not Muslim and then hide behind the West's own laws of tolerance as if they're an oppressed minority." this is such a straw man!! If u knew ur history you would not say such things...
obm1412 4 years ago
Is the left so irrational? One minute the commentator is condemning Mr. Horowitz and then he says, as if in total agreement, let us know what you're doing this week. Man, is he sly or stupid? Who knows or cares. Just hope he's not gay because the Islamofascists would hand him his ass.
BlindEyeJones 4 years ago
Okay, that was blatantly sarcastic. Judging by your favorites, I'm going to say you're being serious.
All I can say is wow. Way to pick up sarcasm. You've got a real knack for picking up subtle expressions that underline what is sarcastic and what is serious.
Kirelan 4 years ago
"One minute the commentator is condemning Mr. Horowitz and then he says, as if in total agreement, let us know what you're doing this week".
Are you really so stupid you don't know what sarcasm is or are you just being sarcastic yourself?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Hey, BlindEyeJones, the guy wants to know what we're doing to make a *mockery* of the week, if we're doing anything at all. He's also given out his e-mail knowing that he's gonna hear from people who disagree with him, which shows more bravery than Pres. Bush, who historically has not allowed anybody who disagreed with him into his town hall meetings to ask him questions.
Trustme77 4 years ago
Hey Josh, you are a dishonest cock-sucker. You claim a poster of a woman being stoned to death is fake. But you say nothing about the photo of the woman about to get her head blown off. Is that fake too? Are you saying that women are not stoned and homos are not killed in sharia-law nations? Why do you defend people who want to cut your homo throat?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"Are you saying that women are not stoned and homos are not killed in sharia-law nations? Why do you defend people who want to cut your homo throat?".
Did Josh really say that or do you just like to insult with ad hominem based on strawmen?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I will explain my comments to you as if you were a 5-year old. Josh is trying to discredit Horowitz by claiming a poster used by him is not real. The real issue is that women and homos are killed. Josh does not address Horowitz's main point. Josh launches a personal attack on Horowitz but says absolutely nothing about the veracity of Horowitz's claims. Do you get it now?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"The real issue is that women and homos are killed. Josh does not address Horowitz's main point".
That's because it's irrelevant.
OBL attack America because America build military base in Islamic countries not because of gay or abortion.
The "terrorist hates us for our freedom" is a lie to scare liberals to support the war.
Fortunately liberals are smarter than 5 year old so they can see through the ruse.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
The atrocities committed by islamo-fascits are not "irrelevant". Their long-term goal is world domination by islam and sharia law. They want to impose their barbarism throughout the globe. This is why OBL attacked America. Not because of military bases, the Palestinian problem, price of oil, etc. This is Horowitz's message. You fascist liberal idiots try to silence Horowitz because you cannot respond to his valid and accurate allegations. Do you get it now?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"They want to impose their barbarism throughout the globe. This is why OBL attacked America. Not because of military bases, the Palestinian problem, price of oil, etc".
Well then how come the very liberal countries like France, Netherlands, Sweden even Canada have never been attacked by OBL if he hates freedom so much hmm?
Oh i know it's because they don't have bases in middle east nor meddle with price of oil etc.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Canada recently arrested a terrorist cell that was plotting to blow up parliment and behead the prime minister.
Last year thousands of cars were torched by moslem youths in France.
Theo Van Gogh was murdered in the Netherlands by a moslem fanatic for insulting islam. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a member of parliment was forced to flee.
As for Scandinavia, remember the riots over the muhamed cartoons?
You don't consider these incidents attacks by islamo-fascists?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
Theo Van Gogh was killed by a crazy individual. Scandinavia, there was relative calm despite protests. Riots happened in France, but it was a racial issue not a religious one. They violently demanded for better rights and less discrimination not an Islamic state. Those guys think they are 50 Cent like gangstas not OBL's Mujheideen. Islamo - facism is a right wing dream, terrorism is a reality. Those idiots are NOT facists. They are scum.
PreetSG 4 years ago
When a group tries to muzzle speech that they do not agree with, that is fascism. The term "liberal fascist" is an accurate description of Josh and his ilk.
You have convinced yourself that it is only a co-incidence that the vast majority of terrorist acts are committed by moslems. You will not convince me.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
Liberal Facist? BS. Josh is a damn good journalist and he exposes people with facts and not bullshit. You are influenced by rightwing stupidity. Facism is totally different.
PreetSG 4 years ago
Censorship is an essential component of fascism. Josh does not even attempt to contradict Horowitz. He only wants to take away his constitutional right of free speech. And that is why your "damn good journalist" is a fascist cock-sucker.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"Josh does not even attempt to contradict Horowitz. He only wants to take away his constitutional right of free speech".
Really? Know any time and sentence he explicitly state this?
"And that is why your "damn good journalist" is a fascist cock-sucker".
That's funny i thought fascists are the people who support war and destruction based on narrow sense of nationalism.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
He is practicing Free Speech and so are you and me. Duh! Learn English! This guy is a damn good journalist as I said he challenges Horowitz with facts, and not just emotion! This guy is not making things up. You are by saying that he is a fascist. He is LEFT-wing. A complete difference from Fascist. Extreme RIGHT WING = Fascist; Extreme LEFT WING = Socialist.... Come on, get a brain.
PreetSG 4 years ago
Josh says "write us and tell us what you're going to do to honor islamo-fascist week" (wink wink). Well what they did at Emery University was disrupt the event to such a degree that Horowitz was unable to speak and the event was cancelled. You object to the term "left wing fascist"? Fine. How would you describe these fine people who deny others free speach?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
You think he would stop you from writing what you think about it. Go and see it for yourself at this website. Horowitz was ridiculed to such an extent he feared being like Ahemnijabad at Columbia University. He was not forced out. That is not denying free speech!
PreetSG 4 years ago
The esteemed president of Iran was allowed to speak. Horowitz was not. I saw the video. But I have a question for you and all the other lefties reading this. I believe I have a the right to say, "fuck the prophet mohammed".
1. Do you agree?
2. Should I be censored?
3. Would you support the views of the vast majority of moslems who would say I should be killed.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
You do have a right to say that. Not that you should. No one should criticize a religion. Again Horowitz walked out and was not forced out. Just like the way BillO waked out of Lettermen the first time. Say what you want they did it out of their judgment and choice, and were not forced. Lastly I am center/independent, not left.
PreetSG 4 years ago
According to islam any one who insults mohammed should be killed. Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others have a death sentence over their heads. But you think such a religion should not be critisized? And dont tell me that the mullahs who issued the fatwahs have misinterpreted their religion. They know their religion a lot better than you do.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"According to islam any one who insults mohammed should be killed. Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and others have a death sentence over their heads".
No it's not according to Islam but according to a few fanatical Muslim cleric.
Just like Tinky Winky and Sponge Bob are not condemned by Christianity as gay icons but they were condemned by far right Christian fanatics like Falwell and Dobson.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I knew some one would say the religion was hijacked or some such nonsense. Bullshit, thats what the hadith says and the mullahs have interpreted it correctly. And yes Falwell was an idiot and Dobson continues to be an idiot. But I am talking about real people whose lives are in constant danger. Dont talk to me about fucking cartoon characters.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"I knew some one would say the religion was hijacked or some such nonsense. Bullshit, thats what the hadith says and the mullahs have interpreted it correctly".
Well then please cite me this "hadith" that justifies the fanatical cleric POV.
"But I am talking about real people whose lives are in constant danger. Dont talk to me about fucking cartoon characters".
All right how's this for real people:
Mordechai Vanunu, James Yee, That dutch guy who got renditioned and turned out to be INNOCENT.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
The Quran copied that out of the Torah. You hear any Jew saying that? No. Why? It is because of they are better informed people. They know infidel is a person who is not in the way of Jewish morals and values; not like many imams who think it is not being Muslims. Iran and many Shi'ite put the fatwa on Salman Rushdie, plus he did not insult the Prophet. He questioned the authenticity of the Quran. I read his book, Satanic Verses.
PreetSG 4 years ago
So many Mullahs and so many views, bound to have misinterpretation. I interpret the Quran differently than another person would. Islam is not the enemy, misinformation is.
PreetSG 4 years ago 2
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Following elements are integral parts : nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to economic and political liberalism.[1][2][3][4][5][6] -- Wikipedia
PreetSG 4 years ago 2
What has OBL and his fellow butchers got to do with nationalism, statism, militarism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism? Muzzling of speech is called censorship, not facism. Most terrorists are muslim for a completely different reason....
PreetSG 4 years ago 2
"You don't consider these incidents attacks by islamo-fascists?".
I consider them attack by stupid people who are easily worked up over religion.
None of them are trained, funded or even received order from OBL.
They're just fanatical Muslim version of angry white trash (no offense to white trash who are non violent).
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Laleelo, they would if they could... They would do anything for the message and publicity. It has nothing to do with oil price or bases. They wanted to blow up an American naval base here and our airport communication tower. Why? We did nothing. But they want a reaction. They want fear instilled to get support from Muslim which means $ coming into thier coffers to do something even larger...
PreetSG 4 years ago
Both you and Laleeloolelo are taking this way out of proportion... Facist liberal? Girl, extreme left is called socialism. Extreme right is called facism. That is why Soviets never got along with Nazi or Pol Pot. People silence Horowitz because he is WRONG. Osama attacked USA becoz :1) He could not get to Israel. They are too good for him + he cannot control or influence Hamas like he does for virtually every other 80+ Sunni Islamic terror organisations.
PreetSG 4 years ago
2) Bill Clintion went after him, shot a missle, missed, hit his family, so things got personal. Bush is his wet-dream where he gets attention to his cause. 3) To be the figurehead of Islamic resistance after the passing away of Arafat. In that way, he can draw out the donations from Madrasah easier and can keep more in his pocket and army. 4) To test America's willingness to deal with him or his arch-enemy organisations like Iran and Hizbollah. Those are the most important reasons.
PreetSG 4 years ago
9/11 was to begin imposing a caliphate? Yea, right.
What evidence is there of that, other than the warped views of people like Mr. Horowitz?
JeremyBlueDuck79 4 years ago
In one of his video taped messages, Bin Laden himself stated that if Americans want the attacks to stop they should convert to islam.
Is that enough evidence for you?
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
No. He still attacked Turkey, Jordan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Oman, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and most recently Qatar. He is at war with Iran over Waziristan. All these are Muslim states but he will find an excuse to attack anyone if he can. Want any more evidence?
PreetSG 4 years ago
1. Waziristan is a section of Pakistan and has nothing to do with Iran.
2. Thank you for making my point. Islamic extremists want to bring down all moderate governments that do not govern according to a strict interpretation of islam. You are in complete agreement with Horowitz and myself.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
Waziristan is a part of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.... Turkey, Indonesia, Qartar and to a certain extent Pakistan and Iran are moderate. Saudi Arabia? Oman? Yemen? Think again. Walking around unveiled in Saudi Arabia can get you in prison. Sharia is the law there.
PreetSG 4 years ago 3
No you think again. Saudi Arabia has close ties to the U.S. and Bin Laden thinks they are selling oil to infidels at too low a price. That is why they are attacked. They are not crazy enough for the ISLAMO-FASCISTS.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
No you think again. Saudi Arabia has close ties to the U.S. and Bin Laden thinks they are selling oil to infidels at too low a price. That is why they are attacked".
That's funny because SA also sells oil that way to other liberal countries and yet those countries haven't been attacked by OBL.
maybe the fact those countries don't have military base in Islamic countries or meddle in middle east affair has something to do with it.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
You are at the other end man! They would attack any county that they can. It is all for their own agenda. It is not anything to do with a military base. Why do you thing that they want to attack my country that did no wrong to them or have no base anywhere in the world. Their ans: We trade with US and recognize Israel? How true do you think that is?
PreetSG 4 years ago
As I said, OBL would just find any excuse to attack. Why do you think majority of the 911 attackers are Saudis? Because their state is run by imams and madrasahs, many of them loathing America and Israel. 2ndly as I said, Islamo-Fascism is a right-wing BS and propaganda!
PreetSG 4 years ago
i say Fuck Israel. That little shit hole is the biggest danger to the world peace!
erikcartman1 4 years ago
Very interesting viewpoint. I presume that if you had been alive during the bombing of Pearl Harbor you would have been pissed off at the British and blamed them for being the biggest danger to world peace instead of the axis powers.
kellygirlxxx 4 years ago
"presume that if you had been alive during the bombing of Pearl Harbor you would have been pissed off at the British and blamed them for being the biggest danger to world peace instead of the axis powers".
If the Brit attack Spain for the retaliation instead of Germany then..Yeah.
By the way WW2 was won under Democratic President AND Congress.
Gee those liberals sure are unpatriotic cowards aren't they? Hyuk hyuk.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Come on. Do you really think that if Hamas takes over Israel, Osama would stop attacking? No he wont. He is doing it for his own selfish reasons...
PreetSG 4 years ago
"Come on. Do you really think that if Hamas takes over Israel, Osama would stop attacking?".
Maybe not, but he would sure lose a rallying point for recruitment.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Oh Christ...they're irrelevant because they usually don't present a threat. The Bush administration was careless enough to give them an opening that they exploited in 2001 (if it's really all Clinton's fault instead of Bush's, why was there no attack *on U.S. soil*--not counting embassies, obviously--during the Clinton years?). There is no way this relatively small group of extremists is going to conquer the whole friggin' world, so calm down.
Trustme77 4 years ago
I thought we'd settled that islamo-fascism is a contradiction in terms. Like saying 'boiling cold'.
ouilassie 4 years ago
Oh, that's mature. "You're wrong and...you're gay! And now I'll call you gay again!" The very fact that in this day and age you're using "cocksucker" and "homo" as slurs exposes you as prejudiced (not the same as racism--look it up--but just as bad) against gay people. So you've forfeited any credibility you might've had. Now that I know you're prejudiced, I can't help but wonder if your warnings about the Muslim Menace are based in fact, or just small-mindedness.
Trustme77 4 years ago
Most liberals fear the likes of David Horowitz and Christoper Hitchens because they know this might be them when they actually grow up and abandon Marxism as a failed political theory.
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
Really? So everyone who disagrees with Horowitz or Hitchens are actually marxist liberal?
Generalization is for fools you know.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Did you just really use the terms "ad hominem" and "strawman" in the same sentence? You should have went for the liberal trifecta, and flopped out Halliburton.
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
Thank you for the tip but Halliburton is so 2006.
Blackwater is the new Halliburton now.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Since when are liberals so peaceful? They're the ones who advocate violence. Ever see a conservative rally result in a riot or a bombing? Ever see a conservative rally for a gangbanger, terrorist, or copkiller?
StoogeWatcher 4 years ago
Why are liberals so upset at people who denounce radical Islam?
StoogeWatcher 4 years ago
I don't think liberals are upset at anyone who denounces radical Islamists, but not all Muslims are radical. Leftist groups do not make excuses for terrorism. There is no excuse for terrorism. Righties think Islam = terrorism.
ouilassie 4 years ago
Come on. I've seen liberals make excuses for Hezbollah and Al Qaeda.
StoogeWatcher 4 years ago
Does you seeing some = all liberals do the same?
ouilassie 4 years ago
So whens Moron-fascism Awareness week?