capitalism and communism basically want the same thing. Freedom, they just have different interpretations of it. Capitalist freedom means, doing whatever the fuck you want, good or bad. Communist freedom means, not having to worry about money and doing what you do best/like to do. communism = collective freedom, capitalism = individual freedom.
@tourettetruthserum Don't know of any, but honestly i haven't seen any non-corrupt communist nation in history, or today. Just read the top rated comment.
@tourettetruthserum ''Collective freedom'' might not be the most accurate term for what I meant. I meant to illustrate the different definitions of freedom that exist in Capitalism and Communism. I'm assuming we all have an understanding of the Capitalist version. Communist freedom means not being bullied around by a guy who happens to have more money than you, or being denied treatment at the hospital. That in itself can be considered a form of freedom. Freedom from financial exploitation.
@evildeathmonkey1 So begins the slippery slope, where everything is a "right" and nothing is a "privilege" to be earned. That's when the national planning begins to truly exploit the resources of those who have elected to achieve something with their life.
Here comes the class warfare mumbo-jumbo. Can't accept different outcomes in life in a free society. No no. We need a plan. Oh no, the plan not working. We need an enforcer....
@evildeathmonkey1 No. Because socialism is failing hardcore in the US.
What? You think Barack Obama is a poster boy for capitalism? That he's attempting Reaganesqe policies over here? No. He's doing what you would think would be your magic cure. And its failing horrifically.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Who's talking about Obama's policies.. It is somehow his fault the banks failed? I think not. I think the man is doing the best he can, this whole crisis isn't going to go away in a year you know. I think you're the one expecting a magic cure.
@evildeathmonkey1 It most certainly is the fault of democrats in control of the Housing and Urban Development Department. They're the ones who irresponsibly lowered freddie and fannies standerds, creating the warped market incentive in the first place. Under laissez-faire, you don't see too many banks lending to people who can't afford a product. Precisely for what happened there.
And yeah, I can blame Obama for the bank bailouts. He voted for them after all.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness You know what else I can blame Obama for? The last 3 years. Crushing debt for future generations, and all we get for it is a measly 9+ unemployment, 18+ underemployment, doubled gas prices, and failed green jobs where there's no market demand. Not to mention a health care package that was rammed down everyone's throats on a perfectly partisan vote.
And the Obama Administration is a case study of how capitalism = failure? I think not.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Now now, predictibly, you are going to want to blame Bush (har). Go ahead. Cause policy wise, the guy turned out to be a RINO anyway. But at least he had created 5.3 million jobs on net at the end. But Bush also =/= Capitalism.
Want to know someone who was? Ronald Reagan. Lets go over some of his stats shall we?
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Between 1981 and 1989 there was a 31% real growth in GNP, 18.4 new jobs, 48% increase in manufacting output, 32% increase in gross private investment, 5.1% increase in charitable giving, 11% increase in median family income, 22.5% increase in tax revenues, and the poorest fifth rose by 5.6%. GDP grew at an average rate of 4.2% compared to Obama's barely 1% "recovery" which is only propped up by stimulus spending.
I offer the Scandinavian states as a counter-example to your supposed slippery slope. Relatively low unemployment, reasonable economic success, proportional representation, the absence of centralized economic planning and autocracy, they're actually doing pretty well.
It's too late to implement their models here, as we're neck-deep in debt and buried in wars. Still, cynicism toward Socialism isn't bullet-proof. At least not cynicism toward Social Democracy.
@SocialistCatgirl What do you mean by Scandinavia? You mean like Denmark? Where the top income tax is 51.5%? Where government spending equates to 51.8% of GDP? Where the debate for them raises on slashing unemployment benefits to a "mere" 2 years instead of 4? Not to mention all the other taxes like VAT and against automobiles.
Or perhaps you meant Finland, with its 8.4% unemployment rate? Either way, comparing these small states to the overall picture is disingenuous..
@SocialistCatgirl What do you mean by Scandinavia? You mean like Denmark? Where the top income tax is 51.5%? Where government spending equates to 51.8% of GDP? Where the debate for them raises on slashing unemployment benefits to a "mere" 2 years instead of 4? Not to mention all the other taxes like VAT and against automobiles.
Or perhaps you meant Finland, with its 8.4% unemployment rate? Either way, comparing these small states to the overall picture is disingenuous...
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Rather, you may want to compare them better still to those states within the United States whereas capatalism is the flavor of the day. States like Virginia, with its 130 billion dollar surplus and recession era unemployment of only 6.4% (republican governor). Or Texas, which has been growing jobs for itself at 3% a year not by government spending, but by letting the entrepreneur work.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Social democracy is not the solution to America's problems. The Constitution is. That's what this current crop of buffoons in Washington don't get. Come 2012, there will be a halt to the failed Euro ideas that are dragging down our system.
@TheTrueHolyDarkness You're wasting your time. Democrats are too brainwashed to understand reasoning and logic, or pretty much anything outside their left wing agenda. Well said, though.
@tourettetruthserum That does not mean however that I'm debating whether or not this kind of freedom has ever existed in the Communist world.(Or the Capitalist for that matter.) I was only trying to point out the different viewpoints, because I thought there might have been some confusion over it.
I know it's a lot to ask for on youtube, but I was hoping to start an honest discussion on the subject. ;)
ummm. you guys are aware that this is a dilbert cartoon clip right? lol. only on youtube could a clip like this turn into a political debate. silly americans.
Communism is better than capitalism. Capitalism = mixed wealth Socialism = same, poor wealth Communism= mixed wealth but the wealthy have a duty to spread the wealth onto other people. GO SOVIET UNION, GO COMMUNISM!
@mundotaku hey last week i said a guy in the street i was comunist(he were talking bad about comunism tho another guy)and he started tho shout at me saying i was a rapist and etc,i almost got taken by the police and got tho pay a fine for that,the worst is that the other guy only got a warning,is this a proof?
The comments here reveal the appalling ignorance of Communist theory (Marx called it scientific socialism). The Communist Party calls for the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and considers itself the "vanguard" of the working class struggle.
Socialism or "state capitalism" is the transitionary phase towards communism, Marx considered it a necessary stage. History proves that Communists in government have committed genocide, imperialism and developed it's own military industrial complex.
Capitalism&socialism r distinct phases. If u have "state capitalism" by definition u dont have socialism.
The Proletariat isnt some title for a dictator its a class(the working class). Marx also called capitalist countries the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. All dictatorship of the proletariat means is the working class is in charge.
"State capitalism" is used for socalled "socialist states" where in reality only an elite few were in control & so had become the new capitalists.
Lenin (Soviet Union) called for an alliance of Marxist socialists and Muslim radicals to "defeat the imperialist west". Today we have Barack Hussein Obama in the White House. Lenin also called liberals, "useful idiots."
No country in the world has ever become pure Communist. Pure Communism, is a classless, stateless, democratic, socioeconomic system, in which property is shared. The U.S.S.R. was Socialist. Just about all the terrible things that have happened in 'Communist' nations are because of dictators and totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is not Communism. Communism is meant to be democratic.
I'm a full on American, love capitalism and the free market and I believe the USA comes first since I am in fact from the USA. And you sir, are 100% correct. Thanks.
@iownage4youi Socialism is communism applied to an entire nation. The "Soviet" in Soviet Socialist Republic means "worker's council" where members of worker's unions would vote on how to run the economy. The only political party was the Communist Party.
Communists took factories from their owners & productivity dropped so yes, communism did fail. Communism will always fail b/c it abolishes the right of individuals to own property and control their economic destinies.
@mundotaku communism didn't fail,because it was never been archieved.,every intellegent person here knows that there was always socialism,and that it was going to be corrupt.Like Karl Marx writes in he's book 'The Communist Manifest'...There are 3 stadiums to archieve communism:
1.Capitalism
2.Socialism after capitalism was death
3.Communism,everyone is equal,free,rules and no private property.Everything is for everyone.No governement,only free to do what you want.
@iownage4youi What you want is called Anarchism, not communism. I have read the communism manifesto and there is not such thing as a state without a government in there. (stateless doesn't mean government-less).
@wertyty12 Well, just to begin with is that is a system is not equal for everyone. For example, a Cuban does not have the right to go to travel, nor to have a car, nor to own or create a company, nor the one to vote for something outside the communist party, they can't say anything against the government, they can't use the same beaches as the tourist, and that is just beginning. I know you will talk about the health system and "la libreta de racionamiento" myth sadly I cant use more characters
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio stupid American,you never read Das Kapital,did you?And if you say that you did read it,i'm sure you didn't understand a shit about it.
@iownage4youi You go school now, read book? You go read on grade one English, yes yes? Gurrr, iownage4youi MAD, ugh ugh. Go look up book on Wikipedia, say mean things to smarter man. Ugh ugh.
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio wikipedia?You get you're information from Wikipedia?No wonder your such a retard!!Texan dildo,get lay'd man and read Das Kapital for gods sake O_o
@iownage4youi GURRR, IOWNAGE MAAAAAAD! Gurrr, throw poo at smartur man, be ANG-URRR-EHHHHH. Mean man say smart things, ugh ugh, confuse him saying I go to wikipedia to him going to wikipedia. Ugh ugh, I no read book, I find it on Wikipedia. Ugh, I think communism good, although all countries that have it hit the shitter effective immediately.
UGH, UGH. GOOD ECONOMY BAD, BAD ECONOMY GOOD. FIRE BAD! FIRE BAD!
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio i also think communism is good,and what you are doing now is childish,okay?Not everybody haves perfect English grammar,realise that.
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio trolled by someone who isn't realistic about the fact that people from other countrie's where English is not spoken and have a bad English grammar by that and now doing childish.You're YouTube page alreadt says how childish you are!!
@brezhnevzhao In fact, it isn't even real. The entire plight of millions of people, the increasing of global populations because of the lack of war in the Cold War and the starvations that are incurring because of it? Entirely unreal. No one is suffering, no one is out of their jobs, no one is poor and hungry, it's all fake. So, don't mind those homeless on the streets, they're entirely unreal. Ignore those mass-graves in Ukraine, they're not real either.
@iownage4youi Uh, no, it doesn't work that way. You can't just have something fail and then say "Oh well, it doesn't count, because it isn't really that". That's bullshit. From now on every-time people say "This is why capitalism fails" I will say the same, that this isn't real capitalism so of course it's going to fail.
@Ayzahar and what with the different political streams in communism?They are all different,but they belong to one group.Its like art.We have Barok,Renaissance,Cubism,surrealism,... just like communism,you understand?
@iownage4youi I grew up in communistic country. Communism doesn't work, never have and never will. Give me ONE example of country where it did. ONE. It wasn't defeated by lazy people, as all naive idiots have been explaining since 1917. It has been defeated by laws of economy. Nothing else has to go into it, every single country infected by this disease rots and comes back to reality exactly the same way. How? Watch the movie Animal Farm.
@tourettetruthserum Nope, the USSR was a socialist aristocratic parliamentary-democracy with some communist aspects, but it was not a pure communist union.
An example? Cuba
The economy collapsed due to the capitalist elements that were put in after the death of Stalin, or in other words, the destalinisation.
I have seen Animal Farm, but it is about the RUSSIAN REVOLUTION, not the whole idea behind communism
@iownage4youi Cuba, ok; so that's why Fidel's motto was Socialism or Death - because he wanted to put "capitalist elements" ... Yeah that makes sense... Because the lack of diversity in their economy (the only thing profitable there for 30 years was growing sugar cane, that USSR had been buying from them). When that stopped Cuba stopped. Go there, see for yourself how 40 years of communism worked out for their country and their mentality. I've been there.
@tourettetruthserum Yeah no shit sherlock!! How would America respond if the whole market has stopped trading? Its a damn good job of Fidel that the communism there still isn't collapsed.
@iownage4youi Read an interview with this "visionary" made by Jeff Goldberg, where Castro actually admits that he let the cuban state have too much influence on the economy, and that "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore". So much for Cuba... And you are wright, Animal Farm is not the whole idea behind the communism, it is communism in action, in real life - from the revolution and all the way to the collapse of this farce - hence the pigs doing business with people.
True communism, as Marx envisioned, has never and can never exist. Too bad, it's Utopian. What happened in Russia and elsewhere, that's just totalitarianism stamped with the name Communism sad to say. Junk.
sorry to say it but communism is another thing that marx invented. what marx invented was socialismen stalin and lenin and those other bastards just made their own changes to it so it was communism
@nesyl1 You shouldn't post drunk, or while ignorant of the facts. Your best bet is to shut up and stop clouding the reality of things. Just try it, no really, you'll be one of the few You Tube illiterate retards to do so if you can pull it off.
I would hardly call it a "sound" idea. It's a wildy optimistic and seriously classist theory. If by "sound idea", you mean that if people were perfect, then theoretically there wouldn't need to be private property, a government, or anything, then yes.
But as it is, Communism, whether pure Marxist or a modern Stalinism/Maoism, can never and will never work.
damn, i know people from the south are stupid, but do people really slur what they say that bad? even without teeth and a lower jaw, I'm fairly certain you can speak clearer than that.
I guess there is a prejudices against communists in the U.S. But don't take it political. The clip just wants to point out, that when people don't understand what you're saying, and someone accuses you with something, people get carried away and misjudge you. It could have been the Pope, and dogbert could say "i don't know if the rest of you heard it, but he just confessed he's an atheist" . Get my point? :)
During the Cold War, the United States government, wanting to ensure support for anti-Soviet efforts, launched a massive propaganda campaign to smear Communism and communists. These effects still last today, with communist now considered a word meaning "ultimate evil," or at the very least, "terrible scum." In fact, whenever someone in the country suggests government programs, such as universal healthcare, they are often labelled "communist" or "socialist," another leftist group.
Yes, it is, but as long as right wing politicians (even tho they're often only industries lobbies' puppets) rule the economy, and so the medias, and so the public opinion, don't expect it to change that much...
But seriously, communism is bad! Is there any good example of a communist country? The USSR ran out of food from their communistic farms failing and they had to ration food. And the worst part about communism: Cubans, Chinese, and Russians(durring USSR) had no rights. The government did whatever the heck they wanted.
Well yes but you can't blame the idea for it failing can you? People who support communism are people who believe that everyone is equal. Nothing evil about that is there?
In the People's Republic of China the farms failed as well. Forced collectivism in the Great Leap Forward of China resulted in a great famine. The same thing happened with iron and steel production, the products they created were of such poor quality, that the system collapsed upon itself.
The problem with communism, is that it seems to reduce incentives for workers to apply themselves. It isn't necessarily a bad thing in theory... but it doesn't seem to work well in reality.
I totally agree that communism is wonderful in theory - everyone gets treated equally, everyone gets their basic needs met, etc. The real flaw that I see is that it tends to put too much power in the hands of the leaders, and leaders are often corrupt and don't have the best interests in the people at heart. So in a perfect world, communism would be great, but in a flawed world like ours a republic or a democracy is better because you can eventually get rid of leaders that make everyone angry.
and if it had been implemented in the USSR in the completely equal way it was meant to, it could've worked. it was partly due to corruption that communism in the USSR failed.
now don't get me wrong, i'm completely for the free market. but i admit that communism is a sound idea.
well... not the theory behind communism - not as it was originally thought up and intended to be, at least.... but yea - communist leaders to date have not really stuck with the basic ideas behind communism and, as such, it has failed...
Communist leaders have stuck to collectivism and central government, basic ideas of communism which allow for all the atrocities committed by its supporters.
Liberal democracy is a success because it places limits on government power. Communism is a failure because the government assumes control of everything, it's actually more restrictive than fascism which is saying a lot.
@mtanti87 historical allusion to the red scare in the 1950's where Americans were seized by the federal government for being suspected Communists. Most of the time there was no evidence and was spearheaded by Republican senator Joseph McCarthy from Wisconsin
@mtanti87 How can you ask that? Seriously? What ISN'T wrong with being communist?It's already been proven that communism DOES NOT work,so anyone who is communist is either blind to history(doomed to repeat it) or are only in it for their own selfish gains.The only people that benefit from Communism is the people in power,and the only people in power is the government.Case closed.
only dilbert could get away with something like that.... or freakazoid!.... or animaniacs, but only dilbert would do something like that XD you should get the Judge Stone cold Steve Austin moment next XD
i think he says: " Thank you. Now, Mr. Dogbert, what i hear is, you are in association with beer drinking dynamite users. Now is that exactly correct " :)
guys its all about anarchy why stop at capitalism
Sexywalle 1 month ago
Confess? that is a great thing. I guess this show explains how there is no political freedom in the US.
MaoistLeninistMarx 2 months ago
Oh Dogbert you were too smart for your own time...!
METALMAN4Wii 2 months ago
Tr00 capitalist warriors are lulzy as fuck. Keep changing the world via Dilbert Videos "~TheHolyDarkness Out~" #LameSignaturesNobodyGivesAFuckAbout
KirbiesandYoshies 3 months ago
i'm a communist come take me away i will die fighting for communism!
ziggyzap1 4 months ago 7
It must be scary that I almost understood that. Texas forever.
WritingFighter 4 months ago 2
Ah hah! I suggested this clip BOW DOWN TO MY MIGHT.
crazymcfobo 5 months ago in playlist crazymcfobo's Favorited Videos
I think Texas just had a stroke
kenson51 7 months ago 29
Press 9 if you deny it.
Captwally100 7 months ago
Press 8 if you are a communist!
Captwally100 7 months ago
capitalism and communism basically want the same thing. Freedom, they just have different interpretations of it. Capitalist freedom means, doing whatever the fuck you want, good or bad. Communist freedom means, not having to worry about money and doing what you do best/like to do. communism = collective freedom, capitalism = individual freedom.
evildeathmonkey1 11 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 Best comment I've ever read! Thumb this shit up.
FMLitsLeo 10 months ago
@FMLitsLeo Explain it to me.. Tell me how any communist country has ever achieved personal freedom. Just ONE example. ONE.
tourettetruthserum 7 months ago
@tourettetruthserum Don't know of any, but honestly i haven't seen any non-corrupt communist nation in history, or today. Just read the top rated comment.
FMLitsLeo 7 months ago
@FMLitsLeo Thanks man, all the best from a Polish guy, who remembers the 80's in communism and wishes You something better.
tourettetruthserum 7 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 Define collective freedom. Cause to me it sounds like a profesional drift car with health and safety approved traction control.
tourettetruthserum 7 months ago
@tourettetruthserum ''Collective freedom'' might not be the most accurate term for what I meant. I meant to illustrate the different definitions of freedom that exist in Capitalism and Communism. I'm assuming we all have an understanding of the Capitalist version. Communist freedom means not being bullied around by a guy who happens to have more money than you, or being denied treatment at the hospital. That in itself can be considered a form of freedom. Freedom from financial exploitation.
evildeathmonkey1 7 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 So begins the slippery slope, where everything is a "right" and nothing is a "privilege" to be earned. That's when the national planning begins to truly exploit the resources of those who have elected to achieve something with their life.
Here comes the class warfare mumbo-jumbo. Can't accept different outcomes in life in a free society. No no. We need a plan. Oh no, the plan not working. We need an enforcer....
...game over.
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Yes, because capitalism is doing such a wonderful job in the US?
evildeathmonkey1 5 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 No. Because socialism is failing hardcore in the US.
What? You think Barack Obama is a poster boy for capitalism? That he's attempting Reaganesqe policies over here? No. He's doing what you would think would be your magic cure. And its failing horrifically.
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Who's talking about Obama's policies.. It is somehow his fault the banks failed? I think not. I think the man is doing the best he can, this whole crisis isn't going to go away in a year you know. I think you're the one expecting a magic cure.
evildeathmonkey1 5 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 It most certainly is the fault of democrats in control of the Housing and Urban Development Department. They're the ones who irresponsibly lowered freddie and fannies standerds, creating the warped market incentive in the first place. Under laissez-faire, you don't see too many banks lending to people who can't afford a product. Precisely for what happened there.
And yeah, I can blame Obama for the bank bailouts. He voted for them after all.
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
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TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness You know what else I can blame Obama for? The last 3 years. Crushing debt for future generations, and all we get for it is a measly 9+ unemployment, 18+ underemployment, doubled gas prices, and failed green jobs where there's no market demand. Not to mention a health care package that was rammed down everyone's throats on a perfectly partisan vote.
And the Obama Administration is a case study of how capitalism = failure? I think not.
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Now now, predictibly, you are going to want to blame Bush (har). Go ahead. Cause policy wise, the guy turned out to be a RINO anyway. But at least he had created 5.3 million jobs on net at the end. But Bush also =/= Capitalism.
Want to know someone who was? Ronald Reagan. Lets go over some of his stats shall we?
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Between 1981 and 1989 there was a 31% real growth in GNP, 18.4 new jobs, 48% increase in manufacting output, 32% increase in gross private investment, 5.1% increase in charitable giving, 11% increase in median family income, 22.5% increase in tax revenues, and the poorest fifth rose by 5.6%. GDP grew at an average rate of 4.2% compared to Obama's barely 1% "recovery" which is only propped up by stimulus spending.
That's capitalism.
~TheHolyDarkness Out~
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness
I offer the Scandinavian states as a counter-example to your supposed slippery slope. Relatively low unemployment, reasonable economic success, proportional representation, the absence of centralized economic planning and autocracy, they're actually doing pretty well.
It's too late to implement their models here, as we're neck-deep in debt and buried in wars. Still, cynicism toward Socialism isn't bullet-proof. At least not cynicism toward Social Democracy.
SocialistCatgirl 5 months ago
@SocialistCatgirl What do you mean by Scandinavia? You mean like Denmark? Where the top income tax is 51.5%? Where government spending equates to 51.8% of GDP? Where the debate for them raises on slashing unemployment benefits to a "mere" 2 years instead of 4? Not to mention all the other taxes like VAT and against automobiles.
Or perhaps you meant Finland, with its 8.4% unemployment rate? Either way, comparing these small states to the overall picture is disingenuous..
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
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@SocialistCatgirl What do you mean by Scandinavia? You mean like Denmark? Where the top income tax is 51.5%? Where government spending equates to 51.8% of GDP? Where the debate for them raises on slashing unemployment benefits to a "mere" 2 years instead of 4? Not to mention all the other taxes like VAT and against automobiles.
Or perhaps you meant Finland, with its 8.4% unemployment rate? Either way, comparing these small states to the overall picture is disingenuous...
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Rather, you may want to compare them better still to those states within the United States whereas capatalism is the flavor of the day. States like Virginia, with its 130 billion dollar surplus and recession era unemployment of only 6.4% (republican governor). Or Texas, which has been growing jobs for itself at 3% a year not by government spending, but by letting the entrepreneur work.
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness Social democracy is not the solution to America's problems. The Constitution is. That's what this current crop of buffoons in Washington don't get. Come 2012, there will be a halt to the failed Euro ideas that are dragging down our system.
~TheHolyDarkness Out~
TheTrueHolyDarkness 5 months ago
@TheTrueHolyDarkness You're wasting your time. Democrats are too brainwashed to understand reasoning and logic, or pretty much anything outside their left wing agenda. Well said, though.
gamefreak1000000 3 months ago
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@TheTrueHolyDarkness why are you talking to yourself?
MagicalPyro 2 months ago
@tourettetruthserum That does not mean however that I'm debating whether or not this kind of freedom has ever existed in the Communist world.(Or the Capitalist for that matter.) I was only trying to point out the different viewpoints, because I thought there might have been some confusion over it.
I know it's a lot to ask for on youtube, but I was hoping to start an honest discussion on the subject. ;)
evildeathmonkey1 7 months ago
ummm. you guys are aware that this is a dilbert cartoon clip right? lol. only on youtube could a clip like this turn into a political debate. silly americans.
danhabsfan9 11 months ago
Why does the Rep from Texas sound like a drunk from Georgia?
bigeffendeal 11 months ago
It's a damn joke people. Chill.
It's making more fun of America than Russia, you know.
17589 1 year ago
oh ya i saw that episode
superbob620 1 year ago
The joke is that the anxiety of the McCarthy era never really went away.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
I like the Texan guy, he speaks proper 'MURRICAN.
Fawp 1 year ago 59
@Fawp BLAIM OUT A MOMMUNISS
translation im not a communist
yup thats american alright cant even speak an actual language
jonlscott 1 year ago 2
Incorrect. Texan Communists were all executed back in 1954, along with everyone left of "Corporate Fascism".
Spiderzumbie 1 year ago
If u watch this alot u can start to understand the govoner
smilly456 1 year ago
Dasvidania, comrade congressman...
mikiroony 1 year ago
Lol, it's ironic that the guy from Texas is accused of being communist.
WinstonFisher 1 year ago
Communism is better than capitalism. Capitalism = mixed wealth Socialism = same, poor wealth Communism= mixed wealth but the wealthy have a duty to spread the wealth onto other people. GO SOVIET UNION, GO COMMUNISM!
scarface980 1 year ago
That was freaking hilarious.
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
and the american say the have the liberty of speech?this prove they are wrong
wertyty12 1 year ago
@wertyty12 Yes. This DILBERT CARTOON proves it.
Dooendhaif 1 year ago
@wertyty12 This is a cartoon, not real life.
mundotaku 1 year ago
@mundotaku hey last week i said a guy in the street i was comunist(he were talking bad about comunism tho another guy)and he started tho shout at me saying i was a rapist and etc,i almost got taken by the police and got tho pay a fine for that,the worst is that the other guy only got a warning,is this a proof?
wertyty12 1 year ago
The comments here reveal the appalling ignorance of Communist theory (Marx called it scientific socialism). The Communist Party calls for the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and considers itself the "vanguard" of the working class struggle.
Socialism or "state capitalism" is the transitionary phase towards communism, Marx considered it a necessary stage. History proves that Communists in government have committed genocide, imperialism and developed it's own military industrial complex.
AcePilot101 1 year ago
@AcePilot101
Capitalism&socialism r distinct phases. If u have "state capitalism" by definition u dont have socialism.
The Proletariat isnt some title for a dictator its a class(the working class). Marx also called capitalist countries the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. All dictatorship of the proletariat means is the working class is in charge.
"State capitalism" is used for socalled "socialist states" where in reality only an elite few were in control & so had become the new capitalists.
sicktoaster 1 year ago
Lenin (Soviet Union) called for an alliance of Marxist socialists and Muslim radicals to "defeat the imperialist west". Today we have Barack Hussein Obama in the White House. Lenin also called liberals, "useful idiots."
AcePilot101 1 year ago
All lawly colyness.
glare1319 1 year ago
communism is bad and no one can understand that guy.
glare1319 1 year ago
I'm nawt a collyness!
glare1319 1 year ago
I'm nawt a camunist!
glare1319 1 year ago
also where da devil what i hear is yall fund astosiation of bad things and dynamite ex jury, is that estanshilly correct? I'm nata communist.
glare1319 1 year ago
Wy is it okay to stereotype some groups of people, but not others?
HankMeyer 1 year ago
the whole concept of an economy is flawed. It maintains a separation between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'.
Communism would work except for one minor flaw, people are neither good nor evil but stupid.
bobobano 1 year ago
sooner or later communism will rule the world(if the world eccotame stays the some)
smilly456 1 year ago
No country in the world has ever become pure Communist. Pure Communism, is a classless, stateless, democratic, socioeconomic system, in which property is shared. The U.S.S.R. was Socialist. Just about all the terrible things that have happened in 'Communist' nations are because of dictators and totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is not Communism. Communism is meant to be democratic.
iownage4youi 2 years ago 2
Democracy is inheritantly Totalitarian. It is similar to two wolves and a sheep voting on what will be for dinner.
ipwnallnubscuzirock 1 year ago
USSR was socialistic not communistic
communism didn't fail,human did
communism is good if its brought well
iownage4youi 2 years ago
no it isnt communism is evil
san77vb 2 years ago
how you mean?Is communism led by Satan?NO!!Capitalism is evil my friend,look what it have done to Africa,Asia,...
iownage4youi 2 years ago
I'm a full on American, love capitalism and the free market and I believe the USA comes first since I am in fact from the USA. And you sir, are 100% correct. Thanks.
OmegaForceGaySoft 2 years ago 2
@iownage4youi Socialism is communism applied to an entire nation. The "Soviet" in Soviet Socialist Republic means "worker's council" where members of worker's unions would vote on how to run the economy. The only political party was the Communist Party.
Communists took factories from their owners & productivity dropped so yes, communism did fail. Communism will always fail b/c it abolishes the right of individuals to own property and control their economic destinies.
natdavi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi Yeah right. North Korea is not communist, nor it is Cuba. Communism=fail.
mundotaku 1 year ago
@mundotaku communism didn't fail,because it was never been archieved.,every intellegent person here knows that there was always socialism,and that it was going to be corrupt.Like Karl Marx writes in he's book 'The Communist Manifest'...There are 3 stadiums to archieve communism:
1.Capitalism
2.Socialism after capitalism was death
3.Communism,everyone is equal,free,rules and no private property.Everything is for everyone.No governement,only free to do what you want.
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi What you want is called Anarchism, not communism. I have read the communism manifesto and there is not such thing as a state without a government in there. (stateless doesn't mean government-less).
mundotaku 1 year ago
@mundotaku an american that reads about communism?Yeah right,and dogs fuck cats.
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@mundotaku whats wrong with cuba
wertyty12 1 year ago
@wertyty12 Everything.
mundotaku 1 year ago
@mundotaku more precise please
wertyty12 1 year ago
@wertyty12 Well, just to begin with is that is a system is not equal for everyone. For example, a Cuban does not have the right to go to travel, nor to have a car, nor to own or create a company, nor the one to vote for something outside the communist party, they can't say anything against the government, they can't use the same beaches as the tourist, and that is just beginning. I know you will talk about the health system and "la libreta de racionamiento" myth sadly I cant use more characters
mundotaku 1 year ago
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@mundotaku you dont even know what you say
wertyty12 1 year ago
everything
mundotaku 1 year ago
@iownage4youi English good if learn well. Go school, learn English. Learn socialism and Communism, same branch. Learn Communism used, failed.
Learn to write grammar good. Hurr, hurr, hurr.
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio stupid American,you never read Das Kapital,did you?And if you say that you did read it,i'm sure you didn't understand a shit about it.
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi You go school now, read book? You go read on grade one English, yes yes? Gurrr, iownage4youi MAD, ugh ugh. Go look up book on Wikipedia, say mean things to smarter man. Ugh ugh.
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio wikipedia?You get you're information from Wikipedia?No wonder your such a retard!!Texan dildo,get lay'd man and read Das Kapital for gods sake O_o
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi GURRR, IOWNAGE MAAAAAAD! Gurrr, throw poo at smartur man, be ANG-URRR-EHHHHH. Mean man say smart things, ugh ugh, confuse him saying I go to wikipedia to him going to wikipedia. Ugh ugh, I no read book, I find it on Wikipedia. Ugh, I think communism good, although all countries that have it hit the shitter effective immediately.
UGH, UGH. GOOD ECONOMY BAD, BAD ECONOMY GOOD. FIRE BAD! FIRE BAD!
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio i also think communism is good,and what you are doing now is childish,okay?Not everybody haves perfect English grammar,realise that.
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi Lol, you're such an imbecile.
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio grow up,fool
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi You got trolled, bro?
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio trolled by someone who isn't realistic about the fact that people from other countrie's where English is not spoken and have a bad English grammar by that and now doing childish.You're YouTube page alreadt says how childish you are!!
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi You mad, kid? Face it, you got trolled and communism is not a valid economic system. Deal with it, punk.
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
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@LeeroyJenkinsstudio i guess you are a communist?
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@LeeroyJenkinsstudio Communism is not a economic system that you understood in traditional way. Actually, it is not a economic system.
brezhnevzhao 1 year ago
@brezhnevzhao In fact, it isn't even real. The entire plight of millions of people, the increasing of global populations because of the lack of war in the Cold War and the starvations that are incurring because of it? Entirely unreal. No one is suffering, no one is out of their jobs, no one is poor and hungry, it's all fake. So, don't mind those homeless on the streets, they're entirely unreal. Ignore those mass-graves in Ukraine, they're not real either.
LeeroyJenkinsstudio 1 year ago
@iownage4youi Uh, no, it doesn't work that way. You can't just have something fail and then say "Oh well, it doesn't count, because it isn't really that". That's bullshit. From now on every-time people say "This is why capitalism fails" I will say the same, that this isn't real capitalism so of course it's going to fail.
Ayzahar 1 year ago
@Ayzahar and what with the different political streams in communism?They are all different,but they belong to one group.Its like art.We have Barok,Renaissance,Cubism,surrealism,... just like communism,you understand?
iownage4youi 1 year ago
@iownage4youi I grew up in communistic country. Communism doesn't work, never have and never will. Give me ONE example of country where it did. ONE. It wasn't defeated by lazy people, as all naive idiots have been explaining since 1917. It has been defeated by laws of economy. Nothing else has to go into it, every single country infected by this disease rots and comes back to reality exactly the same way. How? Watch the movie Animal Farm.
tourettetruthserum 10 months ago
@tourettetruthserum Nope, the USSR was a socialist aristocratic parliamentary-democracy with some communist aspects, but it was not a pure communist union.
An example? Cuba
The economy collapsed due to the capitalist elements that were put in after the death of Stalin, or in other words, the destalinisation.
I have seen Animal Farm, but it is about the RUSSIAN REVOLUTION, not the whole idea behind communism
Look up on YouTube: Marx on Communism
iownage4youi 10 months ago
@iownage4youi Cuba, ok; so that's why Fidel's motto was Socialism or Death - because he wanted to put "capitalist elements" ... Yeah that makes sense... Because the lack of diversity in their economy (the only thing profitable there for 30 years was growing sugar cane, that USSR had been buying from them). When that stopped Cuba stopped. Go there, see for yourself how 40 years of communism worked out for their country and their mentality. I've been there.
tourettetruthserum 10 months ago
@tourettetruthserum Yeah no shit sherlock!! How would America respond if the whole market has stopped trading? Its a damn good job of Fidel that the communism there still isn't collapsed.
iownage4youi 10 months ago
@iownage4youi Read an interview with this "visionary" made by Jeff Goldberg, where Castro actually admits that he let the cuban state have too much influence on the economy, and that "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore". So much for Cuba... And you are wright, Animal Farm is not the whole idea behind the communism, it is communism in action, in real life - from the revolution and all the way to the collapse of this farce - hence the pigs doing business with people.
tourettetruthserum 10 months ago
lol can you idiots stop talking about politics and just lol at the video instead?
brageyboy 2 years ago
"People who support communism are people who believe that everyone is equal"?
Like Stalin? Like Lenin? Like Mao? Like Pol Pot? Like all the members of Khmer Rouge? Like all the priveleged Party Members of the USSR?
I don't think they supported Communism out of a radiant love for all mankind.
PadraikKasier 2 years ago
True communism, as Marx envisioned, has never and can never exist. Too bad, it's Utopian. What happened in Russia and elsewhere, that's just totalitarianism stamped with the name Communism sad to say. Junk.
OmegaForceGaySoft 2 years ago 33
@OmegaForceGaySoft True dat
wowusvn 2 years ago
@OmegaForceGaySoft
sorry to say it but communism is another thing that marx invented. what marx invented was socialismen stalin and lenin and those other bastards just made their own changes to it so it was communism
nesyl1 9 months ago
@nesyl1 You shouldn't post drunk, or while ignorant of the facts. Your best bet is to shut up and stop clouding the reality of things. Just try it, no really, you'll be one of the few You Tube illiterate retards to do so if you can pull it off.
OmegaForceGaySoft 8 months ago
@OmegaForceGaySoft
BULLSHIT And your worshipping orwell
AtheismCentral 6 months ago
I would hardly call it a "sound" idea. It's a wildy optimistic and seriously classist theory. If by "sound idea", you mean that if people were perfect, then theoretically there wouldn't need to be private property, a government, or anything, then yes.
But as it is, Communism, whether pure Marxist or a modern Stalinism/Maoism, can never and will never work.
PadraikKasier 2 years ago
You are also correct. There can be no Utopia.
OmegaForceGaySoft 2 years ago
Ah ha ha, its still funny.
crazymcfobo 2 years ago
If human greed didn't exist, then communism could function. But as long as humans are imperfect, communism cannot benefit the common people.
uzisnoopy123 2 years ago 3
Just wondering, are there any texan communists?
ccfox9133 2 years ago
damn, i know people from the south are stupid, but do people really slur what they say that bad? even without teeth and a lower jaw, I'm fairly certain you can speak clearer than that.
Kakerot4141 3 years ago
What's wrong with being a communist?
mtanti87 3 years ago
no one said there's something wrong? The video makes another point..
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago
But why did the Texan get taken away?
mtanti87 3 years ago
I guess there is a prejudices against communists in the U.S. But don't take it political. The clip just wants to point out, that when people don't understand what you're saying, and someone accuses you with something, people get carried away and misjudge you. It could have been the Pope, and dogbert could say "i don't know if the rest of you heard it, but he just confessed he's an atheist" . Get my point? :)
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago 14
Well yes I do get the point but I didn't get why Communist... lol
mtanti87 3 years ago
hahaha. well this one is for Scott Adams.. ;)
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago 4
During the Cold War, the United States government, wanting to ensure support for anti-Soviet efforts, launched a massive propaganda campaign to smear Communism and communists. These effects still last today, with communist now considered a word meaning "ultimate evil," or at the very least, "terrible scum." In fact, whenever someone in the country suggests government programs, such as universal healthcare, they are often labelled "communist" or "socialist," another leftist group.
smg7320 3 years ago 12
Isn't that... a bad thing to do?
mtanti87 3 years ago
isn't what a bad thing?
smg7320 3 years ago
View left wing political supporters as scum for an out-dated reason.
mtanti87 3 years ago
Yes, it is, but as long as right wing politicians (even tho they're often only industries lobbies' puppets) rule the economy, and so the medias, and so the public opinion, don't expect it to change that much...
breyzh2jahkady 3 years ago
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That's right, you commie scum!!!!
MaskedMumblr 3 years ago
But seriously, communism is bad! Is there any good example of a communist country? The USSR ran out of food from their communistic farms failing and they had to ration food. And the worst part about communism: Cubans, Chinese, and Russians(durring USSR) had no rights. The government did whatever the heck they wanted.
MaskedMumblr 3 years ago
Well yes but you can't blame the idea for it failing can you? People who support communism are people who believe that everyone is equal. Nothing evil about that is there?
Why did the farms fail anywayz?
mtanti87 3 years ago
They ran out of supplies because they were constantly attacked by the surrounding govenrments.
themanwhoisblack 3 years ago
In the People's Republic of China the farms failed as well. Forced collectivism in the Great Leap Forward of China resulted in a great famine. The same thing happened with iron and steel production, the products they created were of such poor quality, that the system collapsed upon itself.
The problem with communism, is that it seems to reduce incentives for workers to apply themselves. It isn't necessarily a bad thing in theory... but it doesn't seem to work well in reality.
Byrnzi360 3 years ago
I totally agree that communism is wonderful in theory - everyone gets treated equally, everyone gets their basic needs met, etc. The real flaw that I see is that it tends to put too much power in the hands of the leaders, and leaders are often corrupt and don't have the best interests in the people at heart. So in a perfect world, communism would be great, but in a flawed world like ours a republic or a democracy is better because you can eventually get rid of leaders that make everyone angry.
Avalikia 2 years ago
i agree with these responses.
the theory behind communism is pretty sound.
and if it had been implemented in the USSR in the completely equal way it was meant to, it could've worked. it was partly due to corruption that communism in the USSR failed.
now don't get me wrong, i'm completely for the free market. but i admit that communism is a sound idea.
her1freak 2 years ago
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in theory, communism advocates killing all those who are different.... Lenin and Stalin tried exactly that...
generalzetta 2 years ago
well... not the theory behind communism - not as it was originally thought up and intended to be, at least.... but yea - communist leaders to date have not really stuck with the basic ideas behind communism and, as such, it has failed...
her1freak 2 years ago
Communist leaders have stuck to collectivism and central government, basic ideas of communism which allow for all the atrocities committed by its supporters.
Liberal democracy is a success because it places limits on government power. Communism is a failure because the government assumes control of everything, it's actually more restrictive than fascism which is saying a lot.
Re5Publica 2 years ago
@mtanti87 historical allusion to the red scare in the 1950's where Americans were seized by the federal government for being suspected Communists. Most of the time there was no evidence and was spearheaded by Republican senator Joseph McCarthy from Wisconsin
michaelraspberry 1 year ago
@DilbertCartoonZ
All hail king Dogbert!
00bean00 1 year ago
@DilbertCartoonZ It sounds like he's saying "what's wrong with communism?"
PesiCool 1 year ago
Ever heard of the Cold War?
civver3 2 years ago
Yes but that's not a reason to hate communism today is it?
mtanti87 2 years ago
@mtanti87 nothing at all, but this clip pokes fun at americas fear of communists
nativepoint14 1 year ago
@mtanti87 How can you ask that? Seriously? What ISN'T wrong with being communist?It's already been proven that communism DOES NOT work,so anyone who is communist is either blind to history(doomed to repeat it) or are only in it for their own selfish gains.The only people that benefit from Communism is the people in power,and the only people in power is the government.Case closed.
johncisney15 1 year ago
@mtanti87 100 million people who are know dead as a result might have a few reasons.
mountainmanwv86 1 year ago
@mountainmanwv86 lol, you think capitalism never claimed any lives?
evildeathmonkey1 10 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 yea just not 100 million. lol
mountainmanwv86 10 months ago
@mountainmanwv86 yeah, probably more then 100 million...
evildeathmonkey1 10 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 any proof there mao?
mountainmanwv86 10 months ago
@mountainmanwv86 any proof there madorf?
evildeathmonkey1 10 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 yea I guess you dont have any! lol...
mountainmanwv86 10 months ago
@mountainmanwv86 Neither do you, that's the whole point I'm making.
evildeathmonkey1 10 months ago
@evildeathmonkey1 youtube won't let me post links so I can't give you one.
mountainmanwv86 10 months ago
Commie runt!
SpartanMan80 3 years ago
did he say you all are from the association of bear- strangeling dinamite distributers?
gelluper 3 years ago
read the rest of the comments :p
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago
lol bear strangling
crazymcfobo 3 years ago
rommm rot a rommunist!
freshpinesent 3 years ago 2
only dilbert could get away with something like that.... or freakazoid!.... or animaniacs, but only dilbert would do something like that XD you should get the Judge Stone cold Steve Austin moment next XD
deora2dude 3 years ago
sweeeeeeet. one of my favorite dilbert moments :D lol
Fabiomafia1298 3 years ago 2
are there any more episodes left?
amirghz2 3 years ago
Woot. Now I can put this on my HLSS and make people laff :DD
crazymcfobo 3 years ago
that was funny, i want a full episode!
mint301 3 years ago
Check my profile and you'll find all episodes. This one in Season 1 episode 12, named "holiday" ;)
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago
He really said: "Now, Mr. Dogbert. What I hear is, ya'll are in association with ________.
Is that all correct?"
wafercrisp 3 years ago
i think he says: " Thank you. Now, Mr. Dogbert, what i hear is, you are in association with beer drinking dynamite users. Now is that exactly correct " :)
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm watching the full episode now. That seems to fit. Thanks =D
wafercrisp 3 years ago
aha what did he really say
tomyo669 3 years ago
lol he got pwned
bashscrazy 3 years ago
WoW ! 4 views in 4 minues? O_o
DilbertCartoonZ 3 years ago
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2nd~!!
TotallyRandomForever 3 years ago