Guitar wankers. Self indulgent. It's all been done before. Give me Sonny Sharrock anyday of the week or Peter Brotzmann. I here nothing here that sends goosebumps up and down my spine
@mohomoho1 Whoops, likes like you missed out on the fact that this is an up-tempo, busy tune to begin with. You can find videos of him doing ballads and nice solo guitar stuff. this is a swinging ass Joe Henderson tune- this is perfectly in tune with it.
Someone at my school told me if you don't swing your eighth notes, you get haunted by the ghosts of Charles Mingus and Miles Davis. They show up Round Midnight.
This is the REAL Inner Urge!! This is what Jazz is all about. Kurt is at the most creative edge of Jazz where music is what counts most. He's incredible!! Sure wished he played here (in the US) more.
What is all this jazz discussion about tradition and "swinging" and bullshit. You think kurt's thinking about any of those rules? Fuck that shit! He's going for and making amazing music.
The tradition IS the basis. Bet your last dollar that Rosenwinkel knows his Tal Farlow, Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian, Bird, Lennie Tristano, John Coltrane, Joe Pass, Bill Evans...
These guys are sponges and you can progress intelligently once the tradition is ingrained into your bones.
Find me a guy who made up slang without knowing the plain language first :D :D The reason why we dig Kurt is because he's coming from somewhere!
This is swinging. Eight note lines will flatten out at a faster tempo.
Jengelbach, Irving Mills was a dodgy agent, not a jazz musician. When Ellington and his contemparies were composing and performing their music, they were expanding on what we now know as 'traditional jazz'. There was no pre-existing tradition. Jazz is a creative art form and always will be. Fun times!
Irving Mills was not a "dodgy agent," but a supremely creative man who, among his other accomplishments, wrote or collaborated on lyrics for quite a few great songs. Ellington and many other musicians liked him and valued his contributions both to the jazz canon and to the business of producing and recording jazz. He was also a pioneer at recording black and white musicians together.
it doesnt swing?! open ur ears dude. we were dancing crazy when we actually read ur comment, this is a kick ass -swing to hell- way to groove. once you got to know the tempo and feel u cant stop dancing... try it1
Agree to disagree then. They may have set the tradition for jazz but that doesn't mean you can't expand on it. Check out kurts standards albums. He still kills but the drums are much more restrained. Calvaire is more all over the place than normal.
these guys are playing and innovating with the exact spirit of ellington, monk, miles, and all the so called traditionalists of jazz if that term holds any meaning at all ( roy eldridge, count basie, louis armstrong = traditionalists? not to me), this is where jazz is at this point and as long as people try outrageous stuff with the talent and dedication to pull it off it wont ever die. as soon as everyone shapes up and does one thing, jazz will be very dead
If you get a chance, check out Kurt's record's East Coast Love Affair and Intuit. He plays standards and swings quite nicely in a very traditional style. His playing here definitely has a more "straight 8th" feel but it's certainly intentional on his part.
Thanks. Rosenwinkel is an undoubted master of his instrument and I respect and enjoy much of his music. This clip's main problem is bad audio. Online worshippers apparently don't differentiate between good sound and bad. I also don't care much for undifferentiated drumming: this tune deserves, and has had, better.
Because people like to define (as close as is gets, or just like to try to define) because its intresting. By talking and discusing art, things wont change. Things still "are" even if one discuses it. Best regards, Sandemose
Thanks for posting! Love it!
samdunnguitar 1 month ago
what a drummer, who´s this guy????
juangsierrag 3 months ago
no hat ?! wow
innhat11 6 months ago
amazing! obed is such a great great musician!
matsdrums 9 months ago
Guitar wankers. Self indulgent. It's all been done before. Give me Sonny Sharrock anyday of the week or Peter Brotzmann. I here nothing here that sends goosebumps up and down my spine
mohomoho1 10 months ago
@mohomoho1 Whoops, likes like you missed out on the fact that this is an up-tempo, busy tune to begin with. You can find videos of him doing ballads and nice solo guitar stuff. this is a swinging ass Joe Henderson tune- this is perfectly in tune with it.
Jazzguitar00 6 months ago
@mohomoho1 Bye! Have fun!
lorenzini 1 month ago
I am unfamiliar with Calvaire. He reminds me of Hamid Drake. Beautiful!
PaulTraps 10 months ago
Someone at my school told me if you don't swing your eighth notes, you get haunted by the ghosts of Charles Mingus and Miles Davis. They show up Round Midnight.
Can't say for sure. I've never taken that chance.
Podestacide 11 months ago
This is the REAL Inner Urge!! This is what Jazz is all about. Kurt is at the most creative edge of Jazz where music is what counts most. He's incredible!! Sure wished he played here (in the US) more.
mikisjazz 1 year ago
@mikisjazz you see, and I'm grateful that he plays the more here (europe) :D
jazztom86 1 year ago
Goddamn he's shaking things up a bit. We need that!
4578a 1 year ago
great jazz music :) amazing musicians !! rhsc nyc
redhairedstepchild 1 year ago
guau
fellinilynch 1 year ago
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maximillianayer 1 year ago
damn, Ben Street is ripping it up
tubeiroe 2 years ago
burnin' fast!
shrd11 2 years ago
what a hell is his guitar?gibson?
aFightingChristian 2 years ago
its a Sadowsky Semi Hollow, I have one :-)
benevolentcats 2 years ago 2
i ordered one should be coming soon...ive only heard amazing things about the guitar
so excited lol
trauma15 2 years ago
Tell us how it is!
NJlo 1 year ago
this bitch swings like a mofo, you'd have to be tripping to say otherwise.
eyebonez13 2 years ago 5
hahaha well put
matthewhenson1 2 years ago
Ben Street can dig.
franzjoseph88 2 years ago 6
What is all this jazz discussion about tradition and "swinging" and bullshit. You think kurt's thinking about any of those rules? Fuck that shit! He's going for and making amazing music.
steveey251 2 years ago 23
the tradition is the basis
SonofHelge 2 years ago
Exactly right!
The tradition IS the basis. Bet your last dollar that Rosenwinkel knows his Tal Farlow, Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian, Bird, Lennie Tristano, John Coltrane, Joe Pass, Bill Evans...
These guys are sponges and you can progress intelligently once the tradition is ingrained into your bones.
Find me a guy who made up slang without knowing the plain language first :D :D The reason why we dig Kurt is because he's coming from somewhere!
And leading us to so many places to go.
rubberbandsax 2 years ago 5
@steveey251 Well said.
kabustard 1 year ago
This is swinging. Eight note lines will flatten out at a faster tempo.
Jengelbach, Irving Mills was a dodgy agent, not a jazz musician. When Ellington and his contemparies were composing and performing their music, they were expanding on what we now know as 'traditional jazz'. There was no pre-existing tradition. Jazz is a creative art form and always will be. Fun times!
SPNev 2 years ago 19
Irving Mills was not a "dodgy agent," but a supremely creative man who, among his other accomplishments, wrote or collaborated on lyrics for quite a few great songs. Ellington and many other musicians liked him and valued his contributions both to the jazz canon and to the business of producing and recording jazz. He was also a pioneer at recording black and white musicians together.
jengelbach 2 years ago
limado del orto! buenisimo
musicadelmundo 2 years ago
a nice way of playing jazz that sounds unique and not rehashed. very very good kurt my friend!
azharkamal 2 years ago
this is some of kurt's sickest playing!
save the hate for your own self esteem and practice harder!
cheers!
ejmcclel 2 years ago 3
Great playing obscured by ugly sound. It doesn't swing. Comes across as a lumbering elephant. Rosenwinkel is better than this.
jengelbach 2 years ago
it doesnt swing?! open ur ears dude. we were dancing crazy when we actually read ur comment, this is a kick ass -swing to hell- way to groove. once you got to know the tempo and feel u cant stop dancing... try it1
Nu9v9 2 years ago 3
The audio quality is terrible. You can't hear the groove. I doubt if any of the musicians — especially the bass player — is happy with the sound.
jengelbach 2 years ago
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Jazz doesn't have to swing anymore. This is awesome.
bluesguy33 2 years ago
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jengelbach 2 years ago
Agree to disagree then. They may have set the tradition for jazz but that doesn't mean you can't expand on it. Check out kurts standards albums. He still kills but the drums are much more restrained. Calvaire is more all over the place than normal.
bluesguy33 2 years ago
The point about this clip is not whether they're playing well, but the sound quality, which sucks and makes it all but impossible to hear the groove.
jengelbach 2 years ago
That's because its a video taken from a camera or something else not meant to take high quality footage or sound.
bluesguy33 2 years ago
I'm aware of the reason for the poor sound, which is unfortunately the same on many live YouTube clips.
jengelbach 2 years ago
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cspringr 2 years ago
these guys are playing and innovating with the exact spirit of ellington, monk, miles, and all the so called traditionalists of jazz if that term holds any meaning at all ( roy eldridge, count basie, louis armstrong = traditionalists? not to me), this is where jazz is at this point and as long as people try outrageous stuff with the talent and dedication to pull it off it wont ever die. as soon as everyone shapes up and does one thing, jazz will be very dead
guitardrew05 2 years ago 6
If you get a chance, check out Kurt's record's East Coast Love Affair and Intuit. He plays standards and swings quite nicely in a very traditional style. His playing here definitely has a more "straight 8th" feel but it's certainly intentional on his part.
allegedartistlessons 2 years ago
Thanks. Rosenwinkel is an undoubted master of his instrument and I respect and enjoy much of his music. This clip's main problem is bad audio. Online worshippers apparently don't differentiate between good sound and bad. I also don't care much for undifferentiated drumming: this tune deserves, and has had, better.
jengelbach 2 years ago
hah
jalofnotrade 2 years ago
dang!.
AllthatIamisLove 2 years ago
does anybody know what kind of distortion or overdrive he uses?
thanks
jrob521 3 years ago
proco Rat
denjz 3 years ago
intense shit! check out Kurt playing live on NPR radio at the Vanguard tomorrow night. you can downlaod it too, which is really sick.
jazzcombo251 3 years ago
what..the..fuck
this is insane!
jalofnotrade 3 years ago
who's the drummer?
jjjjaaaaccccoooobbbb 3 years ago
Looks like Obed Calvaire
denjz 3 years ago
A monster
Sandemose 2 years ago 3
he is amazing. he actually did a master class at my school today. he is not only extremely talented but very nice.
wholelottaled231 3 years ago
Why did you take this down?
atavismnocturn 3 years ago
YEAH THIS GUY IS ON FIREEEE!!!
raikonomicron 3 years ago 3
listen to that tone.
atavismnocturn 3 years ago
Yeah, how do you define it? Modern and complex, at the same time ancient and mysterius? Warm and evil at the same time? :)
Best, Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago 4
You don't define it. Why does everything need a definition? why can't some things just be?
Saxyman14 3 years ago
Because people like to define (as close as is gets, or just like to try to define) because its intresting. By talking and discusing art, things wont change. Things still "are" even if one discuses it. Best regards, Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
Fine, then I would define it as "His."
Saxyman14 3 years ago
I couldnt have put it better my self :)
Best regards, Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
You have to give things names in order to communicate an idea.
futboler454 3 years ago
Very true! Best,
Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
Not necessarily true. Kurt isn't playing words. He's communicating something that cant be given a name.
Saxyman14 2 years ago
Sandemose said: "Modern and complex, at the same time ancient and mysterius? Warm and evil at the same time?"
You nailed it!
mdudekm 3 years ago 2
This is tribute for this nice musicians, this moment is the concert was very good. Enjoy with this music!
fraubaixo 3 years ago 2
Man, youtube explodes with Kurt clips right now! Thanks alot! Best regards, Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago