..Horowitz admitted later he was terrified of his father in law, Toscanini...and that he thought the performances of this and his Brahms with Toscanini were too muscular, too fast--but this is how he had to play them under Toscanini.....he was forced to perform in a way he did not think appropriate. Course, if he didn't, Toscanini would have ordered another pianist.....I'll take anything under Toscanini, anytime, after his interpretations, you do not need any others, and others seem weak
has horowitz created anything original or does he just bang out classics? i really don't know. i searched youtube for original bits but it always comes up with his covers.
@theBubbadukes Horowitz did compose and arrange quite a lot of music....but I do not believe he tried to push his own pieces on to others. Correct me, anyone!
wow this is so genius and complex it's kind of intimidating to try to comprehend and understand, i guess u should jus listen and don't think to much, good music
The recording quality is bad, but consider that its from the 40's .. his playing is Fabulous consider that it's live first of all. His tempo is quick and light the difficult passages are well executed. Yes there occasional note glitches, but again it's actually LIVE and not prerecorded and Horowitz takes risks in his playing to pull of the interpretation he wants, it's what makes him the artist that he is
The finest performance of this work I have ever heard. How unfortunate that no film was taken of this magnificent collaboration of the two titans of their fields. The sparkling precision of Horowitz coupled with the driven fury of Toscanini; virtuosity the likes of which we shall never know again.
morgan< I agree. I grew up with a fsather who was a concert pianist in Baltimore and he told me from an early age that there would never be another Horowitz. Rubenstein was remarkable but no match for the master. Although I do prefer others for certain works like Watts 3rd movement of the beethoven Moonlight available on youtube, Horowitz still outshines them all for technique, mastery of emotion and musicality in every respect. His name should be synonymous with the Rach, concertos.
@bonnmystic No, it wouldn't have. Competitions do not reward originality and personality. Competitions are all about the notes. Fast and loud notes. Many fast and loud notes.
I respect Horowitz as a pianist, less so as an artist, finding his intrepations to be affected and artificial. But not this one, perhaps the best rendition of this concerto of them all.
5:03-5:04 - RIGHT THERE. That's the "take-a-split-second-to-recharge" spot that every pianist is subject to. Every pianist save for Horowitz. Unstoppable.
Those octaves at 4:59 and at the end are truly amazing. YouTube is the place for a lively exchange of views but I do regret the less than courteous ones. This is a greatr concerto, open to all sorts of interpretations and this one is dazzling. I don't much care for Toscanini in Tchaikovsky (and to be fair, neither did Toscanini) but Vlad is as impish, delicately and outrageously bombastic as ever. Brilliant stuff.
The greatest Pianist and his father in law the great Italian Toscanini, the greatest cond. both together here! Wanda Toscanini as a young woman heard Horowitz play at a concert and she fell in love with him and of course she married him.
let's not overlook the fabulous playing of the NBC Orchestra under the baton of Toscanini, who did not admire much of Tchaikovsky's music. You would never know it from this performance--the delicacy and grace of the second theme, the thrilling crescendo from about 4:00, the explosion at 5:12, the many details of the trumpets that are usually lost in an orchestral soup. A fantastic collaboration.
I completely love this Piano Concerto. It has a mix of so many qualities, just unbelievable. If you would like to listen to another great composer YouTube the Great Great Grandfather in Composition of Peter I. Tchaikovsky:
Truly played Con Fuoco, with passion, and at a thrilling tempo. As one critic wrote of this performance, "Here Horowitz unleashes his demonic powers!!"
The word is clear or should i say clarity.Horowitz had much clarity in his playing. It shows. All opinions taken into consideration. I would say Horowitz was a master.He possessed much determination and desire and passion to give much pleasure to those who would listen to his playing.I am thrilled with youtube in giving folk the rare opportunity to listen to such fine music.Listen to Horowitz playing "Shubert's impromptu in G major" For the heart and soul and lovers of all that is good enjoy.
ummm no sentimentalization? how can you say that when you listen to this? how is it that there's no sentimentalization when it's right there behind each score, each rhythm?
don't give people wrong impression and let them go babble that this interpretation lacks philosophic contemplation. this is even better than kissin and karajan's more recent performance. this is legendary.
First of all how much philosophical contemplation do you need for Thcaikovskys Concerto? This isn't the Diabelli Variations, it's a great romantic 19'th Century piece, played in the great 19'th century style, by a Great Pianist Born 3 years after the end of the 19'th century, Influenced by 19'th century artists.
this interpetation is a window to how classical music was approached at those times... accurate, no nonsense, no sentimentalization, to the point and lacking philosophic or poetic contemplation... beautiful as it is
ELECTRIFYING Finale...Horowitz...to me that name means the ULTIMATE in virtuosity. I was so lucky to meet him backstage in the 70s after a recital. He was exhausted but still permitted a handful of fans to come into his dressing room. His face was white, lightly powdered and had obviously just taken a shower. His gentle hands signed my program. Few times in my life, have I felt so awed in someone's presence. I don't think I slept much that night.
Thanks ULTRA! Man...it was a moment where it seemed as if the stars aligned in the heavens for me...I still feel humbled by it. The way I got to see him was a total fluke. After the performance I just sat in awe transfixed by the moment until EVERY SINGLE person had left the auditorium. No one seemed notice me sitting there still. The stage background had been removed. I heard some noises of people near the stage door at the side of the auditorium.
I walked over there and saw the many people and the impregnable door which did not permit anyone to enter. It seemed as if no one got to go insidel. There was no guard at the door but it was locked. You could see inside. But there was no one there. I decided to return to the reverie of the quiet auditorium. I saw that not even stage hands were there anymore. I dared what i had never dared. I found my way onto the stage
nd crept ever so quietly through to where the dressing rooms were. The impressario, Judy Drucker, was there with only a handful of people she had picked to go backstage. I had stolen a spot and entered a world closed to me otherwise. And I stood behind everyone. Judy seemed to accept my prescence there. And that is how I got to go inside of that hallowed room...and meet Horowitz, who signed the program which now hangs in a special frame on my study wall.
Thanks, ULTRA-H! I have thought about that night quite a lot and have managed to keep most of those memories intact by remembering. And not elaborating the story at all. ANYONE could add, as a big fib, that they talked to him. But I know I know that I said something to him...but he was so tired that I did not even expect him to look up at me, but at least he did that when he took my program into his freshly washed hands... :)
Thank you,ELZBIETA! I am glad you enjoyed that...every moment is engraved in my memory. His majestic, exhausted, lightly powdered face, the dutiful way that he, without a negative feeling on his face, would grab the programs given to him and sign them...I dared not speak a word, whatever I would think of saying sounded inane and unnecessary. So I just kept quiet and giggled inside. :)
@otherjoe1234 ...If you MUST KNOW - People write to me and then I comment. Were it not for YOUR letter I would have gone on with the rest of my life but NOW I must return AGAIN to this G-dforsaken place to comment to your INANE comment. And so WHO are YOU? A YouTube watchdog in disguise as a mediocre musician from Ithaca? Like WHATEVER, JOE!!!!!!! sheesh
whoa now, i only meant my comment in good humor. i wasn't really trying to be harsh, just pointing out something i thought was a tad interesting as i looked at the comments.
@nmitchell076 do you have to LIKE people you don't even know and might live somewhere across the ocean on youtube? oh you said it in a mean tone, so i don't like you? strikes me as quite stupid. this is meant to critisize (or praise) the music, not to express our anger towards someone who simply posted... right?
for example: in my opinion horowitz is master, tchaikovsky is great, this music is absolutely beautiful.
My only concern was that the person I was commenting about seemed to be attacking someone for expressing his utter enjoyment of the music. I did not say anything about my personal feelings towards that person, all I said was that if he meant his original comment in good humor, it did not come off as such in his tone.
I posted in order to help the general conversation taking place in the comments section
And besides, YouTube is more then just a place to comment upon the videos themselves, it is a forum to discuss topics, be they related or unrelated to the topic of the video. Our comments do not necessarily take away from or add to the experience of viewing the video (though insightful comments can be eye-opening), since you can easily avoid looking at the comments should you chose to do so
I just happened to glance through the comments and saw what I took to be a negative tone from one comment, so, since said commenter didn't seem to recognize that his tone was negative, I attempted to point it out with the simple intent of improving the tone of the general discussion here.
Comments do not necessarily have to be directly related to the video, and I don't quite understand why so many think they should.
@cubanbach I envy your moments in the presence of the Master. My Mother grew up in Riverdale next to the Toscaninis. She recalls sledding as a child with Walfredo. Arturo would have his limo driver pick them up at the bottom of the hill and take them back to the top. A simpler time in the age of the titans.
@lolitaeviston There were so many emotions, not the least of which was that I was THERE backstage as an illegal guest! hehehehe. I was lucky the impressaria, Judy Drucker did not notice! :)
@cubanbach No, seriously you have no idea. He was dead before I was even born. He just seemed (I know this sounds creepy) angelic in a way. Not a mean terrible bone in his body. I heard people did crazy things just to meet Horowitz. God that is amazing. Who is like him that I could meet now?!?! Nobody. I suppose I will have to force myself into "his league".
@lolitaeviston Woah, not creepy at all...I feel the same thing about Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Mahler...I mean...they were way dead before I was born...so I can relate. And really there is no one at all, in THAT league anyway, at this time. Sure there are great performers now...the only one that I think could be close to that is LEONTYNE PRICE...to me she is someone that IF I ever met her, my words would get stuck in my throat and I might faint. I met Jessye Norman and I couldn't speak!
@cubanbach I am 60 years old. my parents found it cheaper to buy me a ticket for a concert than pay a baby sitter. This is in 1952 in Kansas City. they took me to a Horowitz concert. My mother was a beauty and a dresser. I had golden ringlets. they let us backstage afterwards. I still recall it so clearly. I was 3. It was like meeting Jesus. I had been so moved by the music. It was perfect. I felt this at 3. the dressing room was tiny but his personality made it huge. i was shy and this pleased
dude, you must include Liszt, Rachmaninov, Hoffman, and of course Vladimir Horowitz as well as many more... fuck dude, you don't know about pianists :(
strepitoso!horowitz é sicuramente il pianista più musicale che sia mai eseistito !il suo suono é elettrizzante, ti commuove, ti fa sorridere: ti trascina in un modo che nessuno ha mai saputo fare meglio di lui!..
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yeah, But I perfer Argerich in 3d movenend because I like the tempo she plays. Lang Lang, plays it with feelings too, but not too much. But he's tempo is just right for me.
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I to prefer Argerich in third movement to the third movement of Horowitz.But Cliburn to Argerich.The second subjetc is played as no one has played,no rush,calmly.
Lang Lang isnt't bad but I dislike his acccents at the start. Richter is my favorite 3rd, though on the octaves he takes it literally like a charging locomotive.
In this recording I like Horowitz's little tricks and the finale. He's very good at those jumpy phrases. And the orchestra is of course top of the line, Toscanini afterall.
I like a lot of recordings of this, it's a very easy concerto to like.
After listening to this one for several times today, I'm now officially undecided as to which one is better, Rubinstein's or Horowitz's playing of this third part of the concerto. Both are simply amazing, amazing, amazing, lifting up our soul to heaven, simply put.
Phenomenal. This piece is meant to be a fantastic show of virtuosity...and I love it when a performer can actually go all out with it, instead of holding back sensitively in the name of musicianship; Horowitz tends to go completely over the top, yet he really does have the technique to get away with it. Some pieces I think he ruins in this way, but not this piece. Others may have a more poetic or sensitive style, but when it comes to a piece like this, poetic sensitivity can be boring.
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horowitz is revered in these comments mostly by Americans one assumes, simply because he ' became one of them'. Whilst not quite a circus clown on the lang lang scale, he is good in a few light , technically demanding lollipops, but give him something where intellectual thought comes in and well , what can one say?.
Compared to Russian giants like Gilels, Richter and Sofronitsky, what indeed can one say? an early triumph of marketing over talent, a modern day Lang lang in other words.....sorry.
Also, when did Tchaikovsky become 'intellectual.' The marking for this movement is Allegro con Fuoco: Fast and with FIRE. It's not fast and with taste and class.
Horowitz's near-perfect phrasing makes the movement so accessible to the listener, both intellectually and emotionally. A colorful, sparkling, and high-voltage performance. Bravissimo!
Horowitz was absolutely unique. This was terrible recording quality from a live performance in 1940. The true genius of horowitz at his best shines through. Famous pianists used to go to his concerts to see how he did it.There have always been other fantastic pianists.Horowitz was totally unique worldwide.
Martha's all right but I like Mrs Mills so much. She has a flawless technique that matches her handbag, and draws such lyricism and strength from the piano, all unaided, and she can be heard right at the back of the room if she remembers to put the loud pedal on - and I've never seen or heard anything like her Rach 3.
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I think that martha is the best, I love Horowitz but he has not the seepd nor the fluency of martha, nobody can beat martha, I was told the other day that she can play scarlatti sonata with the pinky only a such speed amaizyn!!!!
Eh? You were told the other day? Why don't you listen by yourself...
Horowitz studied sistematically 500 scarlatti sonatas and played most of them in public MASTERLY. Archerich is a great pianist but nothing to do with horowitz's charming, technic, touch, tone, clearness, liricysm, power, tremendous personality, among other qualities. She isn't even ranked in the top 20pianists of last century, perhaps in this one she will because of lack of masters like Howoritz, Richter, Kappell, Zcifrra..
Horowitz was terrified by his father in law, Toscanini. In fact, years later, he said he did not like the way Toscanini forced him to play this, and the Brahms as well...too fast.
as i expected, the best performance of this piece ever. the colours, the imagination,all combined whit the greatest virtuosity of the XXth century make this version the greatest of all
..Horowitz admitted later he was terrified of his father in law, Toscanini...and that he thought the performances of this and his Brahms with Toscanini were too muscular, too fast--but this is how he had to play them under Toscanini.....he was forced to perform in a way he did not think appropriate. Course, if he didn't, Toscanini would have ordered another pianist.....I'll take anything under Toscanini, anytime, after his interpretations, you do not need any others, and others seem weak
valdengo1 1 month ago
toscanini delated one bar??horowitz played one more octvues at last???
henrykmusic 3 months ago
A friend of mine just gave me this album....
jtjjbannie 4 months ago
What I would give to be able to see this concert live...
samtheman264 4 months ago
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All good, baby.
johnnyblues56 6 months ago
Can there be better. Bravo. TY for posting.
paulostroff99 7 months ago
has horowitz created anything original or does he just bang out classics? i really don't know. i searched youtube for original bits but it always comes up with his covers.
theBubbadukes 8 months ago
@theBubbadukes
So what, hes a genius anyway
Anton77bln 8 months ago
@Anton77bln seriously... he's freaking awesome who cares? He was so nice too. He was the cutest old man.
lolitaeviston 5 months ago
@theBubbadukes Horowitz did compose and arrange quite a lot of music....but I do not believe he tried to push his own pieces on to others. Correct me, anyone!
cubanbach 6 months ago
ultimate art...
jbcranberry 8 months ago
5:11 die süßeste Versuchung seitdem es Schokolade gibt.
pringao1985 8 months ago
Cliburn's better at this one.
newsofthenorth1 8 months ago
was this played in Orphan?
knarrenKspirit 9 months ago
OCTAVE BUTTON 4:55
enriquem90 9 months ago 2
@enriquem90 I think the button read, " make octaves go fast and loud now!"
davids2000 9 months ago
wow this is so genius and complex it's kind of intimidating to try to comprehend and understand, i guess u should jus listen and don't think to much, good music
pathorne2 9 months ago
The recording quality is bad, but consider that its from the 40's .. his playing is Fabulous consider that it's live first of all. His tempo is quick and light the difficult passages are well executed. Yes there occasional note glitches, but again it's actually LIVE and not prerecorded and Horowitz takes risks in his playing to pull of the interpretation he wants, it's what makes him the artist that he is
ocsound1 10 months ago
The recording quality is bad, but consider that its from the 40's .. his playing is Fabulous
ocsound1 10 months ago
The finest performance of this work I have ever heard. How unfortunate that no film was taken of this magnificent collaboration of the two titans of their fields. The sparkling precision of Horowitz coupled with the driven fury of Toscanini; virtuosity the likes of which we shall never know again.
dishington 11 months ago
is it my imagination or does horowitz take the final scale on to an octave higher than is actually written? perhaps the adrenalin rush took over.
titup2 11 months ago
Very nice! :)
MonaneverforgetDaddy 11 months ago
like we dont have another bach or bethoven unfurtunetly we have no another HOROWITZ or TOSCANINI. its just BREATH TAKING thanks
moshiko7701 11 months ago
morgan< I agree. I grew up with a fsather who was a concert pianist in Baltimore and he told me from an early age that there would never be another Horowitz. Rubenstein was remarkable but no match for the master. Although I do prefer others for certain works like Watts 3rd movement of the beethoven Moonlight available on youtube, Horowitz still outshines them all for technique, mastery of emotion and musicality in every respect. His name should be synonymous with the Rach, concertos.
cakeman1955 11 months ago
Horowitz is really a complex pianist, unlike the others.
that's what makes him stand out.
Very complex and playful on the piano and i love it
danielsolfas 1 year ago
A great performance. This performance would have won the Tchaikovsky competition in any year, in my opinion.
bonnmystic 1 year ago
@bonnmystic No, it wouldn't have. Competitions do not reward originality and personality. Competitions are all about the notes. Fast and loud notes. Many fast and loud notes.
Caocao8888 1 year ago
I respect Horowitz as a pianist, less so as an artist, finding his intrepations to be affected and artificial. But not this one, perhaps the best rendition of this concerto of them all.
sailorsteve53 1 year ago
5:03-5:04 - RIGHT THERE. That's the "take-a-split-second-to-recharge" spot that every pianist is subject to. Every pianist save for Horowitz. Unstoppable.
demosj 1 year ago
Those octaves at 4:59 and at the end are truly amazing. YouTube is the place for a lively exchange of views but I do regret the less than courteous ones. This is a greatr concerto, open to all sorts of interpretations and this one is dazzling. I don't much care for Toscanini in Tchaikovsky (and to be fair, neither did Toscanini) but Vlad is as impish, delicately and outrageously bombastic as ever. Brilliant stuff.
ComposerInUK 1 year ago
any ideas on copyright laws if i wanted to use this music?
primativemodelling 1 year ago
The greatest Pianist and his father in law the great Italian Toscanini, the greatest cond. both together here! Wanda Toscanini as a young woman heard Horowitz play at a concert and she fell in love with him and of course she married him.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Rachmaninoff
Rubinstein
Horowitz
pepys1633 1 year ago
@pepys1633 and Kissin?
Onsacredground 11 months ago
Wonderful music wonderful performers, Horowitz and Toscanini.
1AdrianR 1 year ago
let's not overlook the fabulous playing of the NBC Orchestra under the baton of Toscanini, who did not admire much of Tchaikovsky's music. You would never know it from this performance--the delicacy and grace of the second theme, the thrilling crescendo from about 4:00, the explosion at 5:12, the many details of the trumpets that are usually lost in an orchestral soup. A fantastic collaboration.
Raggedy9 1 year ago 2
I completely love this Piano Concerto. It has a mix of so many qualities, just unbelievable. If you would like to listen to another great composer YouTube the Great Great Grandfather in Composition of Peter I. Tchaikovsky:
Iosif Andriasov
You will not be disappointed
immapubrec 1 year ago
who is your fav pianist for tchai 1st?
charmingemily 1 year ago
@charmingemily : N°1 Byron Janis - N°5000 Bang Bang.
totalannihilator99 1 year ago
Thanks Horowitz. I was crying at 5:12 by his emotion. The 'box' music quality from 1943 cannot hide the feelings on me.
His great performance !
TommyLeungCW 1 year ago
This is the most exciting Con Fuoco I have ever heard played!
waistoi 1 year ago
Truly played Con Fuoco, with passion, and at a thrilling tempo. As one critic wrote of this performance, "Here Horowitz unleashes his demonic powers!!"
bigmouthfrog2009 1 year ago
The word is clear or should i say clarity.Horowitz had much clarity in his playing. It shows. All opinions taken into consideration. I would say Horowitz was a master.He possessed much determination and desire and passion to give much pleasure to those who would listen to his playing.I am thrilled with youtube in giving folk the rare opportunity to listen to such fine music.Listen to Horowitz playing "Shubert's impromptu in G major" For the heart and soul and lovers of all that is good enjoy.
happytalk94 1 year ago 2
his octaves are also very fast (just like Argerich's)
jjg7 1 year ago
ummm no sentimentalization? how can you say that when you listen to this? how is it that there's no sentimentalization when it's right there behind each score, each rhythm?
don't give people wrong impression and let them go babble that this interpretation lacks philosophic contemplation. this is even better than kissin and karajan's more recent performance. this is legendary.
dhonguelee 2 years ago
First of all how much philosophical contemplation do you need for Thcaikovskys Concerto? This isn't the Diabelli Variations, it's a great romantic 19'th Century piece, played in the great 19'th century style, by a Great Pianist Born 3 years after the end of the 19'th century, Influenced by 19'th century artists.
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
sounds like slavonic dance, not like 3rd part of b flat minor piano concerto of čajkovskyj, huh?
Johnny03021976 2 years ago
this interpetation is a window to how classical music was approached at those times... accurate, no nonsense, no sentimentalization, to the point and lacking philosophic or poetic contemplation... beautiful as it is
PrestoPossibile 2 years ago
ELECTRIFYING Finale...Horowitz...to me that name means the ULTIMATE in virtuosity. I was so lucky to meet him backstage in the 70s after a recital. He was exhausted but still permitted a handful of fans to come into his dressing room. His face was white, lightly powdered and had obviously just taken a shower. His gentle hands signed my program. Few times in my life, have I felt so awed in someone's presence. I don't think I slept much that night.
cubanbach 2 years ago 18
Imagine how you would have felt had you met Lipatti.
FlashyCat2008 2 years ago
hehe...I don't know! I cannot even imagine! :) ehehe
cubanbach 2 years ago
@cubanbach Wow lucky man.
ultracoolhomies 1 year ago 3
Thanks ULTRA! Man...it was a moment where it seemed as if the stars aligned in the heavens for me...I still feel humbled by it. The way I got to see him was a total fluke. After the performance I just sat in awe transfixed by the moment until EVERY SINGLE person had left the auditorium. No one seemed notice me sitting there still. The stage background had been removed. I heard some noises of people near the stage door at the side of the auditorium.
cubanbach 1 year ago
I walked over there and saw the many people and the impregnable door which did not permit anyone to enter. It seemed as if no one got to go insidel. There was no guard at the door but it was locked. You could see inside. But there was no one there. I decided to return to the reverie of the quiet auditorium. I saw that not even stage hands were there anymore. I dared what i had never dared. I found my way onto the stage
cubanbach 1 year ago
nd crept ever so quietly through to where the dressing rooms were. The impressario, Judy Drucker, was there with only a handful of people she had picked to go backstage. I had stolen a spot and entered a world closed to me otherwise. And I stood behind everyone. Judy seemed to accept my prescence there. And that is how I got to go inside of that hallowed room...and meet Horowitz, who signed the program which now hangs in a special frame on my study wall.
cubanbach 1 year ago 2
@cubanbach That is awesome. You even wrote the comment as if it were to be published in the book. But that is awesome.
ultracoolhomies 1 year ago 4
Thanks, ULTRA-H! I have thought about that night quite a lot and have managed to keep most of those memories intact by remembering. And not elaborating the story at all. ANYONE could add, as a big fib, that they talked to him. But I know I know that I said something to him...but he was so tired that I did not even expect him to look up at me, but at least he did that when he took my program into his freshly washed hands... :)
cubanbach 1 year ago
Wow. What a great story!
elzbieta52 1 year ago 2
Thank you,ELZBIETA! I am glad you enjoyed that...every moment is engraved in my memory. His majestic, exhausted, lightly powdered face, the dutiful way that he, without a negative feeling on his face, would grab the programs given to him and sign them...I dared not speak a word, whatever I would think of saying sounded inane and unnecessary. So I just kept quiet and giggled inside. :)
cubanbach 1 year ago
@cubanbach
wow, why do you feel the need to re-comment like every month? i can understand your appreciation for the music, but @__@
otherjoe1234 1 year ago
@otherjoe1234 ...If you MUST KNOW - People write to me and then I comment. Were it not for YOUR letter I would have gone on with the rest of my life but NOW I must return AGAIN to this G-dforsaken place to comment to your INANE comment. And so WHO are YOU? A YouTube watchdog in disguise as a mediocre musician from Ithaca? Like WHATEVER, JOE!!!!!!! sheesh
cubanbach 1 year ago
@cubanbach
whoa now, i only meant my comment in good humor. i wasn't really trying to be harsh, just pointing out something i thought was a tad interesting as i looked at the comments.
otherjoe1234 1 year ago
@otherjoe1234
you did say it with kind of a mean tone.
nmitchell076 1 year ago
@nmitchell076 do you have to LIKE people you don't even know and might live somewhere across the ocean on youtube? oh you said it in a mean tone, so i don't like you? strikes me as quite stupid. this is meant to critisize (or praise) the music, not to express our anger towards someone who simply posted... right?
for example: in my opinion horowitz is master, tchaikovsky is great, this music is absolutely beautiful.
genevieverosejasmine 1 year ago
@genevieverosejasmine
My only concern was that the person I was commenting about seemed to be attacking someone for expressing his utter enjoyment of the music. I did not say anything about my personal feelings towards that person, all I said was that if he meant his original comment in good humor, it did not come off as such in his tone.
I posted in order to help the general conversation taking place in the comments section
nmitchell076 1 year ago
@nmitchell076 You're are much appreciated.... thank you...and sorry for being so late in showing you that.
cubanbach 6 months ago
@genevieverosejasmine
And besides, YouTube is more then just a place to comment upon the videos themselves, it is a forum to discuss topics, be they related or unrelated to the topic of the video. Our comments do not necessarily take away from or add to the experience of viewing the video (though insightful comments can be eye-opening), since you can easily avoid looking at the comments should you chose to do so
nmitchell076 1 year ago
@genevieverosejasmine
I just happened to glance through the comments and saw what I took to be a negative tone from one comment, so, since said commenter didn't seem to recognize that his tone was negative, I attempted to point it out with the simple intent of improving the tone of the general discussion here.
Comments do not necessarily have to be directly related to the video, and I don't quite understand why so many think they should.
nmitchell076 1 year ago
@nmitchell076 Thanks... :)
cubanbach 6 months ago
@nmitchell076 Thanks... :)
cubanbach 6 months ago
@cubanbach I envy your moments in the presence of the Master. My Mother grew up in Riverdale next to the Toscaninis. She recalls sledding as a child with Walfredo. Arturo would have his limo driver pick them up at the bottom of the hill and take them back to the top. A simpler time in the age of the titans.
dishington 9 months ago
@dishington WOW! Now that's an experience to talk about!
cubanbach 6 months ago
@cubanbach I would have started crying...
lolitaeviston 6 months ago
@lolitaeviston There were so many emotions, not the least of which was that I was THERE backstage as an illegal guest! hehehehe. I was lucky the impressaria, Judy Drucker did not notice! :)
cubanbach 6 months ago
@cubanbach No, seriously you have no idea. He was dead before I was even born. He just seemed (I know this sounds creepy) angelic in a way. Not a mean terrible bone in his body. I heard people did crazy things just to meet Horowitz. God that is amazing. Who is like him that I could meet now?!?! Nobody. I suppose I will have to force myself into "his league".
lolitaeviston 6 months ago
@lolitaeviston Woah, not creepy at all...I feel the same thing about Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Mahler...I mean...they were way dead before I was born...so I can relate. And really there is no one at all, in THAT league anyway, at this time. Sure there are great performers now...the only one that I think could be close to that is LEONTYNE PRICE...to me she is someone that IF I ever met her, my words would get stuck in my throat and I might faint. I met Jessye Norman and I couldn't speak!
cubanbach 6 months ago
@lolitaeviston Justin Bieber )_)
crazystarf 5 months ago
@cubanbach I am 60 years old. my parents found it cheaper to buy me a ticket for a concert than pay a baby sitter. This is in 1952 in Kansas City. they took me to a Horowitz concert. My mother was a beauty and a dresser. I had golden ringlets. they let us backstage afterwards. I still recall it so clearly. I was 3. It was like meeting Jesus. I had been so moved by the music. It was perfect. I felt this at 3. the dressing room was tiny but his personality made it huge. i was shy and this pleased
oakdogfu 6 months ago 6
This is the same as DJ max in DJ max fever's Piano Concerto no.1
Madsalad123 2 years ago
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Man this guy's seriously good, he's like well up there with Lang Lang and ichard Kastle
davidgray2 2 years ago
haha up there with Lang Lang , wouldnt be to much to say he is the greatest pianist of the last 100 years.
mrmonkeybuns 2 years ago
no he is not
no 1 is wagner 2 beethoven 3 mozar , korsakov and tchaikovsky
drbeshoui 2 years ago
Wtf? Wagner wasn't a pianist
davidgray2 2 years ago 4
you compared Horowitz with lang lang, so shut up
eltachimetro 2 years ago 4
Horowitz was absolutely fantastic. In this recording he was unbelievable.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
lol, fantastic youtube commenter right here
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
dude, you must include Liszt, Rachmaninov, Hoffman, and of course Vladimir Horowitz as well as many more... fuck dude, you don't know about pianists :(
eltachimetro 2 years ago
Lang Lang ? hehehehehehe,
lovemetu 2 years ago
You never heard of Van Cliburn I suppose !!
lovemetu 2 years ago
of course i ve heard of him, why do you ask?
mrmonkeybuns 2 years ago
shut the fuck up die you are wrong and it is good :D
SuiChoy 2 years ago
its in b-flat not b.
andrew190495 2 years ago
In german, our b-flat is b. Our b is called h in german.
bmandown 2 years ago 2
PERFECTION.
piedijon 2 years ago 5
In addition to everything else, he was a storyteller.
artsylovelylady 2 years ago 6
Even with old sound wonderful! Greatest Conductor with his trademark fast tempo and the greatest Pianist, his son in law Horowitz.
halavey 2 years ago 2
That was really brillant. The end part is always exciting.
88888888BBBBBBBB 2 years ago 3
horowitz,più toscanini,l'assoluto
sibillasiska 2 years ago
man, no one has ever duplicated the "explosion" that occurs when Horowitz hits those first octaves. Really exciting shit
Liebromeistal 2 years ago 12
Horowitz played those notes at 0:55 the way Yma Sumac used to sing.
artsylovelylady 2 years ago
This tempo is not too fast, its just right! plus if Toscanini approved of it that should be enough for us. :)
splico17 2 years ago 2
The craziest but also the greatest musician!!!!!!!
lisztbest 2 years ago
undescribable passionate and lively version
Mukkumukku 2 years ago 3
I am starting feel that way also, every thing he played in his younger years was very very fast .
mrmonkeybuns 3 years ago
Horowitz is the best.
Generalfieldmarshall 3 years ago 3
Simply put Horowitz is the master of all master....JMO
morgan4965 3 years ago 27
yes, it is so beautiful!..i have no words for such a beautiful tune! yay!!:-))ty!
Wigglerin7 3 years ago 5
i think everyone will agree that Horowitz was one of the best pianists who ever lived.
everythingistken1291 3 years ago 50
@everythingistken1291 somewhere between 1st and 2nd place
bojajchris 1 year ago
@everythingistken1291 In all humility I think he was terribly flawed.
mc0558 11 months ago
@mc0558 In what way? I think he has his strengths and weaknesses. I'm more of a Richter fan myself.
Nutterbutterz95 10 months ago
@Nutterbutterz95 Listen to the Kissin performance and see what can be done with this piece.
mc0558 10 months ago
hello?! 1943!? Why couldn't I have been there? That is so bad ASS!
piedijon 3 years ago 4
Toscanini?
oh papa lol
nikinikinikita 3 years ago
The cadenza is the best played part of this movement.Wonderful cadenza,really amazing,the rest is good but not at the amazing skill of cadenza.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
strepitoso!horowitz é sicuramente il pianista più musicale che sia mai eseistito !il suo suono é elettrizzante, ti commuove, ti fa sorridere: ti trascina in un modo che nessuno ha mai saputo fare meglio di lui!..
lisztbest 3 years ago
One of the best pianists I have heard.
Generalfieldmarshall 3 years ago 3
the best
d4d4n4d4ng 3 years ago
This is a best i ever heard.He was genial.
lzeile 3 years ago
the best performence ever!for me!
ostrun 3 years ago 3
no no no no no, you are wrong wrong wrong about horowitz playing!!! It is the best performence for everyone!!!!!
ClassicSteinwayJonas 3 years ago 10
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No,It's Van Cliburn(3rd movement).First movement I prefer Argerich and in second movement,Cliburn is great too.
Horowitz plays too fast! He losts the complete feelings of this movement.Cliburn in this movment is the best.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
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yeah, But I perfer Argerich in 3d movenend because I like the tempo she plays. Lang Lang, plays it with feelings too, but not too much. But he's tempo is just right for me.
ClassicSteinwayJonas 3 years ago
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I to prefer Argerich in third movement to the third movement of Horowitz.But Cliburn to Argerich.The second subjetc is played as no one has played,no rush,calmly.
I haven't heard Lang Lang yet
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
Lang Lang isnt't bad but I dislike his acccents at the start. Richter is my favorite 3rd, though on the octaves he takes it literally like a charging locomotive.
In this recording I like Horowitz's little tricks and the finale. He's very good at those jumpy phrases. And the orchestra is of course top of the line, Toscanini afterall.
I like a lot of recordings of this, it's a very easy concerto to like.
RabidCh 3 years ago
After listening to this one for several times today, I'm now officially undecided as to which one is better, Rubinstein's or Horowitz's playing of this third part of the concerto. Both are simply amazing, amazing, amazing, lifting up our soul to heaven, simply put.
yfswang 3 years ago
greatest recording of this piece because it has the most energy, everything else is not of any importancy!
katkula 3 years ago
Phenomenal. This piece is meant to be a fantastic show of virtuosity...and I love it when a performer can actually go all out with it, instead of holding back sensitively in the name of musicianship; Horowitz tends to go completely over the top, yet he really does have the technique to get away with it. Some pieces I think he ruins in this way, but not this piece. Others may have a more poetic or sensitive style, but when it comes to a piece like this, poetic sensitivity can be boring.
Vancouverite39 3 years ago 2
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horowitz is revered in these comments mostly by Americans one assumes, simply because he ' became one of them'. Whilst not quite a circus clown on the lang lang scale, he is good in a few light , technically demanding lollipops, but give him something where intellectual thought comes in and well , what can one say?.
Compared to Russian giants like Gilels, Richter and Sofronitsky, what indeed can one say? an early triumph of marketing over talent, a modern day Lang lang in other words.....sorry.
analxixen 3 years ago
Many many non Americans would disagree with you.
thatiswrong 3 years ago 2
What about his unbeatable Scriabin 9th and 10th sonatas?
nkwebmaster 3 years ago 2
Hello analxixen,
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
Comparing Horowitz with Sofronitsky is just a jok !!
abuhm 3 years ago
you are joking, right?
downtoearthwildguy 3 years ago
Karl Richter was German.
Also, when did Tchaikovsky become 'intellectual.' The marking for this movement is Allegro con Fuoco: Fast and with FIRE. It's not fast and with taste and class.
By the way, Lang isn't a very good pianist.
phantom4087 2 years ago 4
Horowitz has perfect technique! His phrasing is excellent, but sometimes I think he rushed TO much. Still, whats not to love about his playing?
Kyocera522 3 years ago
Horowitz's near-perfect phrasing makes the movement so accessible to the listener, both intellectually and emotionally. A colorful, sparkling, and high-voltage performance. Bravissimo!
KevinAtkis 3 years ago 6
wow all of you quarrel about preferences and technique
why dont just enjoy the music??
hollytrotter 3 years ago 5
Horowitz was absolutely unique. This was terrible recording quality from a live performance in 1940. The true genius of horowitz at his best shines through. Famous pianists used to go to his concerts to see how he did it.There have always been other fantastic pianists.Horowitz was totally unique worldwide.
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago
Martha's all right but I like Mrs Mills so much. She has a flawless technique that matches her handbag, and draws such lyricism and strength from the piano, all unaided, and she can be heard right at the back of the room if she remembers to put the loud pedal on - and I've never seen or heard anything like her Rach 3.
vladdegs 3 years ago
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you are gunny dude. I love horowitz but martha is grater!! she is unique, so him but she is just martha!!
charly025epy 3 years ago
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I think that martha is the best, I love Horowitz but he has not the seepd nor the fluency of martha, nobody can beat martha, I was told the other day that she can play scarlatti sonata with the pinky only a such speed amaizyn!!!!
DIHGOHERNAN 3 years ago
Eh? You were told the other day? Why don't you listen by yourself...
Horowitz studied sistematically 500 scarlatti sonatas and played most of them in public MASTERLY. Archerich is a great pianist but nothing to do with horowitz's charming, technic, touch, tone, clearness, liricysm, power, tremendous personality, among other qualities. She isn't even ranked in the top 20pianists of last century, perhaps in this one she will because of lack of masters like Howoritz, Richter, Kappell, Zcifrra..
nietzschemasterclass 3 years ago 6
i think, rubinstein is close of this, argerich is normal
miguellorenaylaura 4 years ago
i think that Rubinstein, in this piece, is quite far.
lhiram23 3 years ago 2
Its playing like this that made HOROWITZ THE LEGEND!!
NordicHealer 4 years ago
horowitz you are "THE BEST".
miguellorenaylaura 4 years ago 3
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argerich is better. and this is not too fast either.
jvmalfi 4 years ago
at this level no one can be 'better' - is condenses to a matter of taste
Poekiemolens 4 years ago 8
Another "Argerich is better" comment from jvmalfi. this guy is sick.
sergeholst 3 years ago 4
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Argerich , 1973 or '75, strikingly beautiful woman with hands like hummingbirds.
and "at this level no one can be 'better' - is condenses to a matter of taste ". So well put and a thumbs up.
ShotX2 2 years ago
you are crazy. Argerich is but a child compared to VH.
downtoearthwildguy 3 years ago 10
Horowitz was terrified by his father in law, Toscanini. In fact, years later, he said he did not like the way Toscanini forced him to play this, and the Brahms as well...too fast.
j72050 4 years ago
@j72050 An odd comment given that Horowitz has recorded this same piece at a far faster pace - with disappointing results.
dishington 9 months ago
There's only one person who gets close of this: Martha Argerich
mmargerich 4 years ago
...in your opinion...
Poekiemolens 4 years ago
Argercih's great but she just lack the power of Horowitz.
CoolWJL 4 years ago 3
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Horowitz is great, but lacks the melodic flow of Argerich
Nataliena 3 years ago
How can you tell? She plays everything so fast.
downtoearthwildguy 3 years ago
Argercih's great but she just lack the power of Horowitz
Sorry, can't agree except for the "great" part..
ShotX2 2 years ago
I suppose you think Argerich plays with Horowitz's clarity also...
CoolWJL 2 years ago
This has always been one of my favorite performances of his, such feeling and emotion.
If anyone wants to hear some recordings of his done in a studio and/or piano roll, check out my channel. :)
boomzxz 4 years ago
as i expected, the best performance of this piece ever. the colours, the imagination,all combined whit the greatest virtuosity of the XXth century make this version the greatest of all
juancillo 4 years ago
listen to the richness, thickness and the layers of emotions release through his finger tips.
it's amazing.
forvc 4 years ago
He is definetly human but russian though. :) russian people are good at music as I know
pontij 4 years ago
wow, that was a joy to listen to. an amazing performance...FANTASTIC
islandreamer51 4 years ago 2
The only performance of this piece that has made me want to play it. Simply flooring.
ProkofievRules 4 years ago 3
5:12 and on is one of the most amazing moments in musical history. Very good piece of work.
ixcuincle 4 years ago 4
yes. Horowitz was the master..the best performance of the best piece ever written for the piano.
jglsd1 2 years ago 2
Wow, listen to the portamento in the strings; that would be frowned upon today, but it sounds so right in this ultra-Romantic music.
billyguns2 4 years ago
Please check out Van Cliburn live from Moscow with Kondrashin, also wonderful.
billyguns2 4 years ago
But it is pity that it has only one mvt
Tiszt 4 years ago
Is he human?
Galilea13 4 years ago
His playing is incredible!
cattleman6420012000 4 years ago 4
Did Argerich's interpretation come even closer to Horowitz's? :-)
willistara 4 years ago 3
I really, really like Argerich's interpretation of this piece. I don't think it is any better or worse. They are both masterpieces.