The USA are a fascist military empire which massacres and exploits the poor and helpless of this world in order to expand to cover the planet with their bases (the US equivalent of imperialism).
The population is brainwashed into radical nationalists who worship the military as a godlike entity and oppose any questioners.
They install and back dictators until the time is right to "harvest" the land, then they bomb, invade and occupy it.
The solder at 1:01 summed up the futility of a war that should have never been fought, and was conceived of by men who knew they themselves or their children would not have go fight in it.
@CHRISTYMOR1 Surrrrre Christy, sure. You keep believing that shit and make sure to say Hi to Aunty Em and Kiss Toto for me. Oh to be back in Kansas!!!!!
This film reminds me of a joke being told around that time. The Americans and North Vietnam were in a race and the US won. It was reported as the North Vietnamese coming in second while the US was next to last.
Same thing in this "documentary". Should be called for what it is, a anti vietnam war film for those who ran and need an excuse to feel better about themselves.
@gerry301 Surrrrrre gerry, sure it is. You keep believing in that shit and make sure to say Hi to Aunty Em and kiss Toto for me. Oh to be back in Kansas!!!!!
Today, 35 years after the peace has been declared, Vietnam civilians are still being slaughtered by our leftover bombs on a weekly basis. In the central provinces it's estimated that 30% of the land is still contaminated.
Opium production is up 90 percent in Afghanistan; Evergreen Air is hauling our soldiers flag draped coffins back to Dover same as Vietnam. Bush said no pictures may be taken, this is a rehash of what the Boodle Boys have always done.
What a great documentary, and yes it is a shame, if Americans do not know, or do not care to know about their real history, I recommend this documentary to anyone who wishes to get a balanced view of what went on back then. Maybe if enough American people had known about this, they might not have been bamboozled into repeating the same crap all over again.
You mean bamboozled into hating their country, supporting politicians and elites who slander the soldiers for their own edification, abandon a people under attack for political reasons and guilt and accept anything told to them that casts America as the villain because they grew up sucking on P.C?
@bloodrunsclear Excellent bloodrunsclear... you managed to get it COMPLETELY WRONG! America went to Vietnam to make money for the armaments industry - PERIOD and murdered over 3 Million SE Asians FOR NOTHING.
Did you second grade teacher tell you to say that? Good boy.
Go watch the Vietcong officer shooting he man in the man. Go read about what happened after we left because geniuses like you demanded we exit the country so they could sleep better at night.
3 million were murdered for nothing by communists. But at least the hippies won.
For another viewpoint, try reading Michael Lind's book, Vietnam: A Necessary War. While this film was a great achievement to bring the horrors of war to light, it's important to remember that North Vietnam was a fairly repressive totalitarian dictatorship. So it was probably a war worth fighting but in a different way. Also note that the no major war before or since has had that level of press freedom. Perhaps all wars are cruel and savage, but most remains hidden.
@mercury11043 hilarious you are a political representative of the North Vietnamese people? NO, they, in an anormous majority wanted the communist govt there and american elites were against the people running a govt because a the idea of a people's govt, bottom-up democracy, might spread blocking US elites from stealing Vietnamese resources, americans like you have no morality
Not to mention the North Vietnamese invaded Laos aswell and stripped its assets - it took China invading the North to force them to leave Laos and Cambodia - The US couldn't win because foreign policy stopped them carrying out a land attack on the North - But the North were allowed to invade the South. Hitler would still be in Berlin if WWII had been fought by those rules! And it the same reason Afghan is taking so long.
@sasmog No. You are stupid and wrong. If the North was invaded the Chinese would have intervened, causing WWIII, you stool pigeon. As for China and Vietnam, Vietnam beat the Chinese. The VNamese left Cambodia victorious.
@newmanfrigan, History shows that the Vietnamese left Laos and Cambodia only after the Chinese threatened to take their incursion further. Your points are also conflicting - If the Viets beat the Chinese, why would anyone worry about the Chins getting involved & If the Chinese getting involved in a war would cause WWIII why did Korea not turn into WWIII? Point of fact VNamese is not really an abbreviation, VN means Vietnam so what you wrote was Vietnamamese? Epic fail......truly epic
"Germany's unforgivable crime before the second world war," Churchill said," was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world's trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit." (Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in the Foreword, 2nd Ed. Sydney Rogerson, 'Propaganda in the Next War' 2001, orig. 1938.)
@LibertaerUeberAlles Why does this affect what i wrote? Or are you implyig Britain became involved in WWII for that reason alone and not because the Germans were marching across Europe killing everyone that wasn't of their viewpoint or religion. Germany even tried to invade the UK but they were too egotistical and underestimated the British defence
Germany invaded Poland due to a land dispute. There was no "marching across Europe" until the British[banking]Empire initiated war on Germany. Also keep in mind that patriots from no less than 44-countries allied with Germany. See article:
"The European Volunteer Movement in World War II" - ihr
Even Slavs, Arabs and Black Africans allied w/Germany to free themselves from oppressive "British" colonial rule. See videos:
@LibertaerUeberAlles Oh right i take it you were having a border dispute with France? Austria? Norway? Czechs? Belgium? Don't be pathetic, try reading historical text not Right wing propaganda. Britain signed a treaty with Germany stating that if they stopped invading their neighbours there would be peace - but Hitler had to have Poland, then and only then did the BEF enter the war. The 44 countries you mention included many countries to small to fight Germany so it was join or die!
@sasmog Also the 44 partiotic countries included several Japanese puppet states in China and former French colonies that the Japanese occupied in Asia, i take it the British colonies you refer to are India, whose pro Axis group was effectively as powerful as the Vichy government in France - hence Indias actual forces fought for the UK. The African colonies that fought for Axis were German, Clearly they loved you so much they stayed part of Germany after the war? - No they didn't!
@sasmog Not quite sasmog... the US can't DO land invasions - send 100,000 of those handsome corn-fed boys back in bags and the chickens start clucking. America has no idea whatsoever what a modern war is actually like - lost 400,000 in WWII to Russia's 30 Plus Million! Hardly participated on the Major Eastern Front - fought the LATE REMNANTS of 25% of the Wermacht AND GOT PAID in bullion for it (like mercenaries) up until two years ago. Get over yourselves.
@ duggz we won the battles n v a took all the vc weapons away after the fall of saigon , when cambodia khemer rogoue killed over 3 millons of there own we didn't hear nothing from jane fonda tom hayden and there 4 runners liberal ..
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The real heroes of vietnam were the draft evaders.
I hope there's a war with Iran, started by Israel that the US has to finish. When they bring back the draft I'll bribe somebody and evade it. :)
This fucking country isn't worth fighting for.
FLICKtheUSA 1 week ago
It's Michael Moore's favorite documentary. See it anyway.
MrRazorblade999 1 month ago
Nothing new here.
The USA are a fascist military empire which massacres and exploits the poor and helpless of this world in order to expand to cover the planet with their bases (the US equivalent of imperialism).
The population is brainwashed into radical nationalists who worship the military as a godlike entity and oppose any questioners.
They install and back dictators until the time is right to "harvest" the land, then they bomb, invade and occupy it.
Americans = Disgusting pigs!
megatroll 3 months ago
Americans got murder in 'em, they always have. Yet they call it 'patriotism' and 'freedom'. Fucked up world, isn't it?
member5738 3 months ago
Orwell was right
zagat44 5 months ago
Hearts and the minds alright. They sure got their hearts and minds with those b52 bombers
Insurgent999 7 months ago
The solder at 1:01 summed up the futility of a war that should have never been fought, and was conceived of by men who knew they themselves or their children would not have go fight in it.
kevinusma 7 months ago
@kevinusma that was george pattons son
lettertee1 3 months ago
Nice to know Micheal Moore liked this movie.
A more level headed least partisan person you'll never find!
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
implying the north Vietnamese weren't responsible for the whole state of affairs.
cbob0080 10 months ago
@cbob0080 That's right... they weren't
CHRISTYMOR1 9 months ago
@CHRISTYMOR1 Surrrrre Christy, sure. You keep believing that shit and make sure to say Hi to Aunty Em and Kiss Toto for me. Oh to be back in Kansas!!!!!
gerry301 9 months ago
@CHRISTYMOR1
implying it wasn't soviet aggression.
cbob0080 7 months ago
This film reminds me of a joke being told around that time. The Americans and North Vietnam were in a race and the US won. It was reported as the North Vietnamese coming in second while the US was next to last.
Same thing in this "documentary". Should be called for what it is, a anti vietnam war film for those who ran and need an excuse to feel better about themselves.
gerry301 11 months ago
@gerry301 Surrrrrre gerry, sure it is. You keep believing in that shit and make sure to say Hi to Aunty Em and kiss Toto for me. Oh to be back in Kansas!!!!!
CHRISTYMOR1 9 months ago
Commie propaganda.
AdognamedOp 1 year ago
fuck the vc and nva can suck my american dick
usnavysss 1 year ago
well
iraq was a mess shit too type WIKILEAKS AND SEE THE VIDEO ...is much more violent and cruel then this one!
SRLula79 1 year ago
@SRLula79 you FAIL, kill yourself :)
kishaba1980 11 months ago
Today, 35 years after the peace has been declared, Vietnam civilians are still being slaughtered by our leftover bombs on a weekly basis. In the central provinces it's estimated that 30% of the land is still contaminated.
joanvn 1 year ago
You want to know why and how the US got into Vietnam? Type into google
"how the u.s. got involved in vietnam by jeff drake"
written by a vietnam vet.
BubbaGump332 1 year ago
LBJ: Seriously, would you buy a secondhand car from this guy?
Jackthesmilingblack 1 year ago
Opium production is up 90 percent in Afghanistan; Evergreen Air is hauling our soldiers flag draped coffins back to Dover same as Vietnam. Bush said no pictures may be taken, this is a rehash of what the Boodle Boys have always done.
badattitude77769 1 year ago
What a great documentary, and yes it is a shame, if Americans do not know, or do not care to know about their real history, I recommend this documentary to anyone who wishes to get a balanced view of what went on back then. Maybe if enough American people had known about this, they might not have been bamboozled into repeating the same crap all over again.
MadameDeJaVu 1 year ago 11
@MadameDeJaVu
You mean bamboozled into hating their country, supporting politicians and elites who slander the soldiers for their own edification, abandon a people under attack for political reasons and guilt and accept anything told to them that casts America as the villain because they grew up sucking on P.C?
I agree. If only you were so fortunate...
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear Excellent bloodrunsclear... you managed to get it COMPLETELY WRONG! America went to Vietnam to make money for the armaments industry - PERIOD and murdered over 3 Million SE Asians FOR NOTHING.
CHRISTYMOR1 9 months ago
@CHRISTYMOR1
Did you second grade teacher tell you to say that? Good boy.
Go watch the Vietcong officer shooting he man in the man. Go read about what happened after we left because geniuses like you demanded we exit the country so they could sleep better at night.
3 million were murdered for nothing by communists. But at least the hippies won.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@MadameDeJaVu Americans don;t care about the truth. Just flag waving bullshit and mom and apple pie.
xpat73 3 months ago
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1:12 nice ass! that's what i call vietmanese pusssy. get me some poon tang!
YouDickwod 1 year ago
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tiptopsound 1 year ago
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@YouDickwod you are a disgusting, disrespectful piece of shit.
tiptopsound 1 year ago
For another viewpoint, try reading Michael Lind's book, Vietnam: A Necessary War. While this film was a great achievement to bring the horrors of war to light, it's important to remember that North Vietnam was a fairly repressive totalitarian dictatorship. So it was probably a war worth fighting but in a different way. Also note that the no major war before or since has had that level of press freedom. Perhaps all wars are cruel and savage, but most remains hidden.
mercury11043 1 year ago
@mercury11043 hilarious you are a political representative of the North Vietnamese people? NO, they, in an anormous majority wanted the communist govt there and american elites were against the people running a govt because a the idea of a people's govt, bottom-up democracy, might spread blocking US elites from stealing Vietnamese resources, americans like you have no morality
Marly61 1 year ago
Not to mention the North Vietnamese invaded Laos aswell and stripped its assets - it took China invading the North to force them to leave Laos and Cambodia - The US couldn't win because foreign policy stopped them carrying out a land attack on the North - But the North were allowed to invade the South. Hitler would still be in Berlin if WWII had been fought by those rules! And it the same reason Afghan is taking so long.
sasmog 1 year ago
@sasmog No. You are stupid and wrong. If the North was invaded the Chinese would have intervened, causing WWIII, you stool pigeon. As for China and Vietnam, Vietnam beat the Chinese. The VNamese left Cambodia victorious.
newmanfrigan 1 year ago
@newmanfrigan, History shows that the Vietnamese left Laos and Cambodia only after the Chinese threatened to take their incursion further. Your points are also conflicting - If the Viets beat the Chinese, why would anyone worry about the Chins getting involved & If the Chinese getting involved in a war would cause WWIII why did Korea not turn into WWIII? Point of fact VNamese is not really an abbreviation, VN means Vietnam so what you wrote was Vietnamamese? Epic fail......truly epic
sasmog 1 year ago
@sasmog
WINSTON CHURCHILL
"Germany's unforgivable crime before the second world war," Churchill said," was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world's trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit." (Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in the Foreword, 2nd Ed. Sydney Rogerson, 'Propaganda in the Next War' 2001, orig. 1938.)
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 2
@LibertaerUeberAlles Why does this affect what i wrote? Or are you implyig Britain became involved in WWII for that reason alone and not because the Germans were marching across Europe killing everyone that wasn't of their viewpoint or religion. Germany even tried to invade the UK but they were too egotistical and underestimated the British defence
sasmog 1 year ago
@sasmog
Germany invaded Poland due to a land dispute. There was no "marching across Europe" until the British[banking]Empire initiated war on Germany. Also keep in mind that patriots from no less than 44-countries allied with Germany. See article:
"The European Volunteer Movement in World War II" - ihr
Even Slavs, Arabs and Black Africans allied w/Germany to free themselves from oppressive "British" colonial rule. See videos:
/watch?v=lsThalL0sKQ
/watch?v=zi5ogL_nl-g
/watch?v=0Qtqn_ZPuNE
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 2
@LibertaerUeberAlles Oh right i take it you were having a border dispute with France? Austria? Norway? Czechs? Belgium? Don't be pathetic, try reading historical text not Right wing propaganda. Britain signed a treaty with Germany stating that if they stopped invading their neighbours there would be peace - but Hitler had to have Poland, then and only then did the BEF enter the war. The 44 countries you mention included many countries to small to fight Germany so it was join or die!
sasmog 1 year ago
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@sasmog Also the 44 partiotic countries included several Japanese puppet states in China and former French colonies that the Japanese occupied in Asia, i take it the British colonies you refer to are India, whose pro Axis group was effectively as powerful as the Vichy government in France - hence Indias actual forces fought for the UK. The African colonies that fought for Axis were German, Clearly they loved you so much they stayed part of Germany after the war? - No they didn't!
sasmog 1 year ago
@sasmog you are lacking histroy knowledge.
ocallaghan1916 1 year ago
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sasmog 1 year ago
@sasmog Not quite sasmog... the US can't DO land invasions - send 100,000 of those handsome corn-fed boys back in bags and the chickens start clucking. America has no idea whatsoever what a modern war is actually like - lost 400,000 in WWII to Russia's 30 Plus Million! Hardly participated on the Major Eastern Front - fought the LATE REMNANTS of 25% of the Wermacht AND GOT PAID in bullion for it (like mercenaries) up until two years ago. Get over yourselves.
CHRISTYMOR1 9 months ago
@ duggz we won the battles n v a took all the vc weapons away after the fall of saigon , when cambodia khemer rogoue killed over 3 millons of there own we didn't hear nothing from jane fonda tom hayden and there 4 runners liberal ..
mryellowcrown 2 years ago
@mryellowcrown America supported the Khmer Rouge.
newmanfrigan 1 year ago
sad........ i cried through almost the whole movie
grimslider75 2 years ago
I wish more Americans knew of this movie.
kevinusma 2 years ago 24
2,772 views and only 2 comments?!
more ameriCANs better start talking more or they will be forever viewed as ameriCANTs.
its unfukinbelievable how much worse their gov't has been allowed to ... FUCK!
eLiMU6 2 years ago 2
@kevinusma
sorry if my comment/swearing offended
not aimed at you
the apathy is just too pathetic for rational words.
eLiMU6 2 years ago
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Very cool fuck communism and the gooks
zimpiko28 2 years ago
too bad the gooks won u prick.....
DuggzFrumDaDerg 2 years ago
Well those "communist and gooks" kicked our asses.
Coins4Cheese 2 years ago 3