Father Zakaria answers questions Muslims about Trinity (1/3)

[Abusalameh316]

Name of the Father,Son and Holy Spirit one God Amen

Thank you father Zakaria you are the man of God~God bless you and your works the true teaching to us *

Bible Jesus said Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the

(name) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

I testify that there is no God but Jesus and I bear witness that the Messenger of Christ, Zakaria Botros*أشهد أن لا إله إلا الْمَسِيحُ و أشهد أن زَكَرِيَّا بُطْرُسُ رَسُولُ الْمَسيح

[Abusalameh316]

Bible De30:19 I have set before you life (Jesus) and death (Mohammad) blessings and curses, Now choose life (Jesus) so that you and your children may live

Jesus said John14:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life, No one can come to the Father except through me~ MO said QuranCh7:188And if I knew the unseenCH41:6 I am only a man like youCH3:55Allah said, O Jesus, indeed, I will take you and raise you to myself and purify you

Mohammad is died man by poison Islam bow down to idol stone (Mecca)

[jhnspooner4]

الحمد لله علي نعمة الاسلام انا اؤمن بمحمد و عيسي عليهم السلام

[pnai24qc]

JESUS OR MUHAMMAD

1.Jesus never killed anyone.Muhammad was a murderer.

2.Jesus performed miracles.Muhammad could not perform miracles.

3.Jesus is alive & in Heaven.Muhammad died & buried in Medina,

awaiting for his judgement.Muhammad do not know if he was going

to heaven himself:XD Hadith vol.5,no.266, Sura 46:9

every Muslim will go to Hell. Sura 19:71 & 72

[WaitingOnTheOne]

Another analogy of the trinity can be that, when I was carrying my child, not only was it part of me, it was part of my husband and then the soul of the child also, three in one.

[Ldybug376]

The trinity , Father , Son and Holy Spirit,  all God, all one.

An analogy might be water. Water can be liquid, ice, or steam. All are water, different forms.

[violinlover07]

@Spined1234 If you look at the Gospel of John 1:1-5. It says that the Word was God. The Word of course is Jesus Christ. This is one of the verses that indicates the inherent divinity of Christ.

[Spined1234]

He didn't even explain anything about the Trinity and how something so illogical makes sense. He just babbled on with his underwhelming analogy.

Apparently, God had sex with Mary who gave birth to another God which God decided to torture and kill for the sake of not punishing criminals.

[gerardk51]

@Spined1234

You are crude. The conception of Jesus was miraculous. Mary remained a Virgin.

[Spined1234]

@gerardk51 It was a miracle, but that doesn't mean that Jesus is God or that he is God's son. You even said it yourself that it was "conception" which means that God impregnated Mary to give birth.

What's funny is that your own Bible refutes this, since Jesus (pbuh) oredered his followers to worship one God.

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD." Deuteronomy 6:4

[gerardk51]

@Spined1234

Jesus did indeed order his followers to worship the one true God.

Something which you do not do since you do not woship the God of the Jews but some new fella called "Al"!

(Don't bother to tell me that 'allah' means 'god'. The phoney god of the koran is not the true God.)

Conception simply refers to the beginning of Jesus' human life.

He was already in existence for all eternity and became man, born of Mary.

[gerardk51]

@Spined1234

Jesus showed his divine nature through his word of command. No one else ever did what he did. Moses prayed to God and God worked miacles. Jesus simply commanded. "Get up and walk"! "Be healed of your disease"! Only God has direct control over nature.

[Spined1234]

@gerardk51 He performed miracles by the will of God. HE wasn't God himself as he clearly stated in your own Bible.

[McChirkeen]

Father Zakaria's point about the current state of Islam is correct that Muslims are to accept Islam without questioning. The problem lies in Muslims because they do not question their religion because that would expose the corruption of Hadith which is the power base for the Mullahs and Imams.

Ahmed Deedat had taken on the topic of Trinity and proved it to be a creation of the Church and not a divine concept so Father Zakaria is wasting his time and effort to explain the Trinity.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen can you explain the corruption in the hadiths or where they are in the hadith books. Muslims do questions the Quran and hadiths every day but the hadiths and Quran keep on winning

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - You can question Quran but there is no contradiction nor there is corruption of any sort in the Quran.

Here is hadith.

E.g. - Narrated by Gaber bin Abdullah:

We were with the messenger of Allah and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: "Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?" He said Yes. He came back with a cup of wine. The messenger asked:”Have you fermented it, even with one piece of ferment?” He (Gaber) said "yes" and he drank.

Sahih Muslim - Hadith #3753

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen if you have ever read the Quran; Allah(swa) says 26:7, 50:6, 59:18 etc..... Allah(swa) is saying look at His(swa) creation to ALL not just Muslims. So this Quran is letting anyone with knowledge to view it as well as the prophet saying (hadith) says look. Muslims do look but are not knowledgeable to understand at times. Their is no corruption in the Quran and hadith only in those who do not want to lean.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen .sahih bukhari book of .Obligatory Charity Tax (Zakat) [24:489] .....These people do not understand and collect worldly wealth. No, by Allah, Neither I ask them for worldly benefits nor am I in need of their religious advice till I meet Allah, The Honorable, The Majestic." '

sahih bukhari Knowledge [3:103] Narrated Ibn Abu Mulaika: Whenever 'Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) heard anything which she did not understand, she used to ask again till she understood it completely.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - what is your point? make sense will you. but i guess you can not because you think Sahih Hadith is actually the words of Prophet Muhammad. No wonder the civilized world considers Muslims as idiots. I hope you don't ever put yourself in front of learned people of this world, you will be laughed out of the room.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen Knowledge [3:95] Narrated Anas: Whenever the Prophet spoke a sentence (said a thing), he used to repeat it thrice so that the people could understand it properly from him and whenever he asked permission to enter, (he knocked the door) thrice with greeting. so who is to blame?

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - where do you get that stuff? were you there when Prophet did that. You are disturbed to say the least when you believe in the trash called Sahih Hadith as words of the Prophet. The only recorded words of the Prophet are in the Quran. The Prophet spoke the Quran to the people. Go look into the history of Sahih Hadith and see how you and the rest of Muslims have been duped into believing that Bukhari and his gang actually wrote the authentic words of Prophet. What a pity.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen the Prophet said, "Among the off-spring of this man will be some who will recite the Qur'an but the Qur'an will not reach beyond their throats (i.e. they will recite like parrots and will not understand it nor act on it), and they will renegade from the religion as an arrow goes through the game's body. They will kill the Muslims but will not disturb the idolaters. If I should live up to their time' I will kill them as the people of 'Ad were killed (i.e. I will kill all of them)."

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - Really he said that, and I suppose you were right there to hear him say that. Do you not realize that you have absolutely no proof of what you have just said. The books of Sahih Hadith have been proved to be total trash.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen Prophets [55:558]

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - You want to practice shirk by putting faith in garbage like the books written by Bukhari, Tirmidhi, Muslim (all of them were Persians not arabs - can you not figure out the implication of that) then by all means you continue to do so. If you want to see the position of the Quran on this topic refer to 31:6 and do read the actual text and not the translation. It is this garbage that has resulted in the belief that the Prophet married a 6 year old girl.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen i did not know you were a crazy person so i will not bother you.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - I guess what you are really saying is that you are hung up on this garbage of hadith but you don't have any way of putting forth a retort. Its muslims like you that have done their share of damage by not being able to see the truth that Quran is your only guidance. You disgust me.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - And what was it that wrote that makes me crazy you jackass.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - I am crazy? and you who believe in made up garbage considers himself to be sane. Wake up and get your head out of this trash called Sahih Hadith. And the examples you mentioned above made no sense.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - Your arguments show that you are confused as to what constitutes as logic. You are basing your argument on the disputed source i.e. the books of Bukhari etc. Do you have any idea that the enlightened muslims of the world are denouncing this crap. We are holding onto the one and only book that we are instructed to hold onto i.e. Quran. You want to invest in garbage then your return will be misguidance - which we see today because muslims are in the gutter.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - Muslims are hated the world over. Their behavior is illogical and violent. Their guidance is coming from the books of Hadith which tells them to kill if you commit adultery, or apostacy, cut off the hands of theives vs. cut the hands of theieves. There are interpretations that allow muslims in africa to circumcise the girls - a most heinous act. You believe that growing a beard is a religious act, you believe that you need to turn up your pant legs before making salat.

[Kusunoky]

@McChirkeen i see how well you are informated lol from Internet and youtube wow. First point the circumcises is not Islamic and growing beard is not obligatory even is optional and there is many people non Muslim have it like this father and so on. If for you the catholic religion is the truth well so nice then but you should respect other religion specially if you are christian and remember what Jesus say.Inthe end if some one will kill your family and sodler enter in yourhomewhat you will do ?

[McChirkeen]

@Kusunoky - sorry dude, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. send me a personal message and try it again.

[Kusunoky]

@McChirkeen Ok, I think i was clear but the point in here is that according to the bible there is " Kill if you commit adultery and so many other things. about the circumcise the girls is a tradition in the country not in the religion and i mean not in all the religion if i can say like that. So i think if you are good Catholic or Cristian you need fallow Jesus and stop say if the other religion is wrong or not. Thanks my friend Mc

[McChirkeen]

@Kusunoky - Yes, you are right, killing for adultery and circumcision of boys are jewish traditions. Circumcision of girls is heinous african tradition. The Quran does not mention this sort of treatment for anyone. We are not here to opine on the traditions of other religions because Muslims have their hands full with the corruption in brought into Islam by "Hadith". As you can see the comments here show you the level of corruption in the minds of Muslims. They have the Quran but follow hadith.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - You consider hadith to be an eye witness account which was recorded with 100% accuracy at the vary time when it happened. You have no idea when, why and how hadith was manufactured. You can not see the similarities between the hadith and the Bible because you have not read the Bible. You put faith in mullahs who love having sex with boys. The biggest proof of the evil of Hadith is the current state of Muslims i.e. in the gutter.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - so I hope you take some time and go on internet and research the corruption of hadith. You will find excellent information on you tube about it as well as other sources.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen crazy mc chicken nugget lol you have written false things what will you day in front of GOD the ALL MIGHTY as he questions you about your comments?

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - I am absolutely ready to answer to Allah about my belief because they conform to the mandate set by the Quran. I don't take any guidance from a source other than the Quran. I accept all Prophets of Allah and do not make distinction among them (as per 2:285). I believe in Allah's angels, the books, the day of judgement, taking care of needy, establishing salat and zakat, fulfill contracts have made, be firm and patient, in pain and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic.

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - Now that you know what are my beliefs, what are you beliefs. Oh and I must congratulate you on Mc Chicken Nugget - did you think of that all by yourself, wow, you are so cool.

[javidakbar]

@McChirkeen do you believe Isa (as) son of Mary is a man and not a god. He is a prophet of ALLAH(swa). do you believe that Mohammad (saw) is the last and final prophet and messenger of ALLAH(swa).

[McChirkeen]

@javidakbar - Prophet Isa is the son of Mary and he is NOT a God. He is a Prophet of Allah. Prophet Muhammad similarly was a Prophet and Allah made him the seal of Prophets i.e. no more Prophets will come after him. What is your point? do you want to test my knowledge of Quran and Islam? I have stated it before that Quran is the only guidance and I reject Sahih Hadith as I reject Satan because Sahih Hadith is satanic concoction.

[MegaFraudbuster]

@McChirkeen - Jesus is God . Muhammad was a false prophet . Amen.

[McChirkeen]

@MegaFraudbuster - Bring proof that Jesus is God and Muhammad is a false Prophet. If you can not bring proof then according to the standards set in the world, you make up stuff as you please which I believe makes you a total looser.

[MegaFraudbuster]

@McChirkeen - how many eye-witness are there who saw Muhammad speak to angel ? How many prophesis did Muhammad fulfill? Who prophesied his comming ? NIL >>NIL>>>NIL...

About Jesus being God - Jesus said , " I am the begining and the end " , Jesus said , "I am the ressurrection". Jesus said He will be the judge on the last day . Jesus said ," I am the truth ". ALL these are the 99 names of ALLAH ! There is plenty more - read the bible.

Jesus said , ask me and I will give you (pray to me ).