Mavea Purity C Filter Installation Overview

[0Necrosis]

You're saying you cant descale a plumb in machine? All you do is put the descale solution into a bucket and run the hose from the machine to the bucket. The pump will suck in the solution. Some machines may need SOME amount of pressure, such as raising the bucket above the unit and using gravity, but I've never heard of a machine that cannot be descaled.

[0Necrosis]

Oh, I should add, the only thing I can think of about not being able to descale, is a unit that doesn't have a hot water tap from the steam boiler, unless there is a way to drain the boiler, it would be hard to get the solution in and even harder to get out.

[SeattleCoffeeGear]

@0Necrosis We're saying that a lot of setups don't allow for this and so water filtration is a good idea. - Kat

[craigdamico1]

what are your thoughts about the "FloJet External Water Pump System" (BW1000) ?

..and theoretically, could it be possible to put "Descaling Solution" in the 5-gallon Jug and descale the Espresso machine that way ?

..or would the "solution" ruin both the Rotary & Flojet pumps ?

..if so, why doesn't that "solution" ruin the Vibratory Pumps in the Non-Plumbed machines ?

(sorry for all the questions, i just made myself 6 shots of Espresso :-)

[SeattleCoffeeGear]

@craigdamico1 We used a FloJet for our Epoca in the store for awhile, it worked well -- not sure of the specific model and that's the only one we've had experience with. You could descale via the solution in a bucket, yes, it wouldn't hurt the pumps. - Kat

[pmjyt]

So RO filtered water that is close to 0 ppm is probably not the best choice for espresso machines.

[SeattleCoffeeGear]

@pmjyt Drinking straight up distilled water doesn't taste great, so some RO systems will put minerals back in. Using water without any hardness is hard on the machines, as well. - Kat

[pmjyt]

I seem to remember one of you commenting on the ideal characteristics/purity-level of water. What I took away was that absolutely pure water might not actually be the best input.

Am I remembering this correctly?

[SeattleCoffeeGear]

@pmjyt There is an ideal of 150ppm water hardness for coffee; filtration solutions such as this, which are designed for espresso machines in commercial applications, etc., also soften and allow for that same level of particle density without allowing the minerals to adhere to the inside of the boiler -- hence, you don't get over/underextracted coffee, because the right amount of space is still taken up by encapsulated (softened) minerals. - Kat