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  • My friend Duncan tried that once, he just spun back up.

  • @spikedpsycho I see what you did there...

  • So what...I've bungee jumped before! The only difference, I read the manual and tied the end to my feet and not my neck.

  • Not dark enough. It should have been run at normal speed, with the sound of the neck being snapped clearly audible, and the body briefly bouncing back up in the air.

    Conan did a better job with the suicidal cows. ;)

  • That's nowhere near the darkest moment. The darkest one was where you find out Garak had blown up the Romulan senator's ship.

  • @AndHaunted You're close, but no cigar - The darkest was when Captain Sisko decides he can live with it. You expect the sneaky underhanded deviousness from Garak. You don't expect the moral Federation captain to go along with it and cover it up.

  • @dgcatanisiri Agreed. That was one of the best (and most morally ambiguous) moments in Trek.

  • With their advanced medical tech couldn't they have saved her life?

  • @tommyjimster "♫♪ ... and that laugh ... ♫ that wrinkles your nose ♪ ... it touches my foolish heart♫!"

  • I admit that I had a serious crush on Nana Visitor in those days. What a cutie!

  • @selatik1 So did I...I still go back and watch the show thinking 'Damn, I wish I could have!'

  • This is what made DS9 great they could explore the darker elements make it more real

  • @Mandar28887 I hear ya, DS9 is one of my favorites. Since they were mostly centered on a space station, meant the writers could better focus on characters and story, instead of coming up with new alien race in almost every single episode.

  • This was a dark moment in Trek history. I remember being shocked the first time I saw this.

  • @robbiewwebster

    Dark moment was in TNG "Most Toys" when at the end, just before transporting began, Data fired phaser in anger and later refused to admit it... it was far, FAR more tense.

  • @AnteyPL it wasnt in anger...he isnt capable of it. It was for the sheer necessity as he saw it for cold blooded murder to prevent the death of more people as threatened by the scum in question. Data denied it because he has no moral quandry with denying it since he knew full well that Riker could tell what had happened...he isnt an idiot.

  • @OkamsRazer

    You see, phrase "fire in anger" doesn't mean that one pulling the trigger was "angry". It simply means that weapons is fired not as warning shot, or disabling shot, but as aimed and ment to hit selected target with full force and damage potential. Check meaning on Wiki.

  • @AnteyPL well aware...just pointing out the irony due to it being Data.

  • 2 people didn't opesed evil.

  • I dunno why people use the word 'dark' with DS9 all the time.. I mean I know it is more so than the other Treks, but there is darker in the realm of TV. I really liked this scene, I think it was effective, I even felt a bit pensive after this episode (it was my favorite in like... 2 seasons. my last favorite was Hippocratic Oath, which had the same effect), but no chills..

    I think people just use that word because that's how the producers described it like once & now everyone's like "oooh dark"

  • That young man is rather dark, indeed.

  • Why did they hold her back?

  • Will anyone hate me if I make a joke about a 'pope on a rope' ????

  • @ThatBritishVlogger Nah mate, love ya for it lol.

  • @ThatBritishVlogger Do you want to see the pope on the end of a rope, do you think he's a fool?

  • @ThatBritishVlogger No, no one will.

  • i think i did see this scene as reflecting the utter and total hell bajor went through during the occupation... it was as though that woman was still carrying it inside her and it was from it that she acted (and it was like it still lived and breathed even though it was over... and the mere shadow of it happening again became real all too quickly... just a hint of it and it's happening all over again).

  • would have been funny if the rope was about 3 feet longer .she jumps. everybody gasps .she lands on her feet with rope to spare. everybody goes back to what they where doing.jack says your right no story here

  • whoa...

  • It sure don't beat real life Buddhist self immolation.

  • HOLY SHIT

  • Hence the reason I love DS9 above all other trek.

    The 24th century isnt all peaches and roses. Earth was made out to be the paradise, an aspirational goal, yet there still is the ever present suffering, oppression, and despotism just beyond the next horizon.

    Mankind must explore. We cant assume we will find life nobler than us.

  • I'd have to say the darkest scene from DS9 would have to be when Garak tortured Odo in The Die is Cast. No one dies, but for me, there's a much greater emotional impact.

  • I know the Vedyk was trying to change Kira's stubborn mind, but she should not have done it this way.

  • Of course...someone wanting us to impose the North American concept of sexual preference on not only the past butt he future as well. Arrogant humans.

  • So just rope. Not space rope, with lights.

  • Hmm... Even in the 24th Century, people commit suicide with good old-fashioned rope.

  • They have this but never once had a proper gay character, crazy!

  • Brilliant.

  • Looks like she forgot her rope upstairs.

  • Not a very observant security team or gathering of people, for that matter; despite the amount of time Kira spent right up at the area where the vedik appeared, the number of people standing there waiting for her, & presumably people she would have encountered on her way there the vedik managed to arrive, tie the rope off, put it around her neck, climb over the railing & NO ONE sees her until the instant before she jumps? Geordi without his visor would have done a better job of spotting her...

  • @HayBea oops..typo...meant to say "Kira spent *looking* right up...sorry 'bout that.

  • @HayBea So out of all the inconsistencies in any one episode of ANY Star Trek - you make note of such a small detail?? Don't get me wrong, I think like that all the time but you gotta admit, for a science fiction TV show - it's pretty much a moot point. A good point in any of the other tele-drama schlock that's all over TV nowadays. I don't mean disrespect just thought you might see the lack of making the point.

  • @oyster43 I don't make note of *all* the inconsistencies in any one episode, was merely commenting on the one inconsistency in that one scene since that's the scene presented here, & it seemed a pretty big part of the scene: they're all watching for & anticipating the arrival of this vedik but she apparently borrowed Harry Potter's cloak or something. It isn't something that even registered with me during the original broadcast. Wasn't making a point, merely an observation...

  • LOVE, LOVE, LOVE STAR TREK DS9 and VOYAGER!!! Some really amazing SCI-FI!! It would be awesome if they ever came back to that kind of Star Trek universe; darker, deeper, mysterious, far, far away :)

  • my god

  • Um, good security work, Odo. I guess the grandma tying a rope around her neck and then to the balcony wasn't any reason for you to take notice or be concerned :P

  • I guess they didnt think it was any time to be Hanging around the promenade!

  • I always found this to be BS.

    Hanging is blunt trauma, with the technology of the Star Trek universe, damage like that should be easily reversible.

  • @Archedgar Well, it also can kill you instantly in a lot of cases. Star Trek technology is good, but the only occasions where death is reversed in the Star Trek Universe are matters of luck, not of technology.

  • @Archedgar It looks like Vedic Yasim died of the induction of carotid reflex, which reduces heartbeat when the pressure in the carotid arteries is high, causing cardiac arrest; Closure of carotid arteries would have also caused cerebral ischemia (brain damage due to lack of oxygen). In addition, her spinal cord would most certainly have been severed at 2nd and 3rd or 4th and 5th cervical vertebrae. Had they saved her she would be a human vegetable.

  • @ZedemMonk A Bajoran vegetable, you mean.

  • @ZedemMonk Actually, given the distance she fell and assuming her anatomy is basically human (like half the aliens in the show), then her momentum would have pulled her head completely off.

  • @megadeathx pulled it off? She wasn't obese. Her neck snapped I assume.

  • @ZedemMonk I love Trek people. They're so f'ing smart! But that's gross. Only slightly less gross than the person who said her head would have been pulled off. Yeuck!

  • @littlehouse15 smart? or just have too much free time and a penchant for reading Wikipedia articles?

  • @Archedgar they can fix a snapped neck in time? She was dead when the rope went taut.

  • @Proletariat12 They possibly could, but they would respect her right to die, ethics haven't changed.

  • @UTubeTulip If they haven't changed, they would revive her. Suicide is not exactly allowed now.

  • @Proletariat12 Yes it is, doctors are not allowed resuscitate a patient if it's against the wish of the patient, just like they can not treat a patient for any treatment if they believe it is against the wish of the patient.

  • @UTubeTulip Could you point me to where you got that information? Everything I've found shows doctors and paramedics always try to save victims of suicide. It's quite a bit different than a patient refusing medication since suicide is a very complex disorder. People are only allowed to kill themselves if abiding by very strict guidelines with the consultation of physicians.

  • I like the look on Odo's face. I think he was impressed.

  • "Turns Kira against the Cardassians" ? I know they occupied the station, and she was a senior officer aboard it, but she was never "with" the cardassians to begin with. This was a pointless death and possibly even humorous when viewed out of context like this.

  • @MasterFhyl I think the point of the Vedek's death was to get Kira to stop being neutral and take covert action against the Dominion and Cardassian forces occupying DS9. Of course, the Vedek pissed me off earlier in the episode when she implied that Kira was a collaborator for following Sisko's instructions to keep Bajor out of the Dominion War.

  • @girlgarde I just dont feel that the "resistance" accomplished all that much.. Quark being completely out of the resistance did more than they did (in finding out that Damar was about to take down the mine field) and yet he wanted no part in the resistance.. (Yet probably would have told the goody goods about it anyways.. which would have almost certainly made them act) I just think it put bajor in danger for very little reasonl. (I admit its bee a while so i could be remembering it incorrectly)

  • @MasterFhyl In the episode where the station was liberated, the Resistance took out the station's weapons so Dukat couldn't destroy the Defiant before it got into the wormhole where Sisko came into contact with the Prophets (though Sisko hadn't intended on talking to them). While I see what you mean, Kira felt like she had to do something for the cause of freedom no matter what risks were involved, it's her nature.

  • I remember being really shocked by this the first time I saw it. It was quite unTreklike.

  • @JonathanBones The whole series was "unTreklike."  And as much as I love Star Trek, I have to say, it was that quality that make DS9 so damn good.

  • She should of used a Bungee cord:p

  • Like how they just stand around not helping. It is not 100% gauranteed her neck snapped when she fell.

  • @SweetZombiJesus Given the distance she fell, her neck would have certainly been broken, in fact there was a good chance that the 'long drop' would have 'popped' her head right off.

  • @ZedemMonk Maybe if she kept her neck relaxed. It looked like a 10 foot drop from the camera angle.

  • Nice homage to the Vietnamese monk who set himself on fire in protest of the war...

  • WTF?! What the heck is that episode about?

  • @TheVoiceOfReason93 It's part of a six-part arc about the Dominion (allied with Cardassia) taking temporary control of DS9.

  • Love this episode.

  • What ep was this?

  • @ZukosHotLikeLightnin If you have a look at Uploader's comments you would see.

  • I remember when Kira got seriously pissed off at Odo when he told her that he linked with that lead Dominion chick.

  • Ein Geländer, ein Strick, ein bajoranisches Genick. Mich wundert nur, wie die gute Frau das in Ruhe dort anbringen konnte. Is ja nicht gerade leer aufm P-Deck.

  • Chilling indeed...

  • lol ya killing yourself is a great way to oppose evil. Dummy.

  • @CommitToFocus Some call it martyrdom; dying for what you believe in.

  • DAMN....

  • wow, I don't remember that particular moment, but it is very dark, even for DS9.

  • @thewyj - I've seen every episode of DS9 and don't recall this scene either. I wonder if it got removed from being shown on TV.

  • Fake. She would have shit herself. ;-)

  • @st8pl8guy not if she'd voided her bowels beforehand. Remember kids when choosing a way to go, try not to leave mess behind for someone else to clean up; or if you must, do it in a easily cleanable location (bathtub = good, living room sofa = bad)

  • Yeah RIP

    What A Shame

  • @jmm1233 Its just television. She doesn´t die for real. Hmm... She never live for real either...

  • This would certainly be up there. I was thinking the death of Maritza in "Duet," the damage done to Bashir and O'Brien's friendship in "Hippocratic Oath," or maybe Sisko going home in "Tears of the Prophets." But this certainly contends with any of them.

    The final scene in this episode is my favorite moment in the entire Trek canon: Sisko's anger and disgust on accepting Keevan's surrender, and his orders to form a burial detail for the Jem'Hadar unit he'd just been forced to massacre.

  • @aperson22222 Agreed. on all counts.

  • She's really good at judging rope length, her feet just barely didn't hit the ground floor

  • where do you get rope on a star ship?

  • @Madorem Replicator. And that answer is why I don't have a girlfriend.

  • ...All I can say is YIKES.

  • This is for you, Damien, ALL for YOU!

  • Really would have ruined the moment if the rope had snapped or it wasn't tied down good enough.

    "Uh... can I get a do over?"

  • @ShadowWolf3998

    Or worse.. if the rope was too long

  • What are you doing???

    "I'm just hanging around!"

  • @kdc43 Patrick: booooo!

  • There's your protest...

  • Finding the darkest moment in Deep Space Nine is like trying to find the darkest shade of black.

    I think DS9 breaks through the darkness eventually however you've got to go through some grim territory before you find the promise land.

  • yes that would have killed her instantly, a fall from that height with a rope around your neck would have decapitated her

  • She opposed the evil successfully!

  • Why didnt odo just turn into bird or whatever and save her, he still had time!

  • @jkarani You can stop many things when fighting rebels in an occupation, but its dammed hard to stop the inspiration and idea of a martyr.

  • and...........I escaped the rope!!!

    *dies*

  • ouch wtf

  • Emergency transport to the Infirmary.

    There.

    That's it - they could take care of her neck there, nearly instantly after jumping.

    The jump was not THAT high that she would die instantly.

    Still, a powerful moment.

  • Jake is holding a cheap-looking IPad.

  • what episode is this?

  • @NinjaSheik3ds It was 6x02 Rocks and Shoals.

  • huh?

  • I felt that Deep Space Nine was truly the strongest of all the Star Trek series. It really went deep into all the emotions and shows human nature, not just this "evolved humanity."

  • @estelgreenleaf

    Too bad, there was little Star Trek left in it after it got strong..

  • It was strong since season two and in part its strength came from it being so unlike the rest of Trek. That was a good thing.

  • @Hibbs4Prez

    I agree that it was necessary to show some Federation infrastructure, not only solitary starships moving from one star to another. But still - it was furthers departure from canon as longas we speak about series.

  • DAMN!

  • TADAAAAA.

  • @JohnyAngelo And now for my next trick...

  • This is perhaps the single most powerful moment in all of Star Trek in my opinion. DS9 with its war-time setting really pushed the characters as far as they could go, and it had some pretty magnificent acting.

  • @CParish24 I disagree. I thought it was the scene where Sisko's in his quarters saying, "...I can live with it. I CAN live with it..."

    Although Sisko's so hammy he's unkosher, but to great effect. This certainly gets huge marks for being straight forward and kicking you in the teeth emotionally.

  • @CParish24 the tearful breakdown scene in "Duet" was really powerful, i tear up every time Aamin Marritza's scene where he breaks down at the end about the Bajoran laborers screams. gets me every time.

  • @AgentExeider Yeah, it showed that the Cardassians weren't all a bunch of cold blooded killers and cardboard cutout villains but rather, a horribly misguided people with crappy leaders. It was also a turning point I think for how Kira regarded Cardassians, she saw that they weren't all evil......

  • @CParish24 I'm pretty sure that there are several Sisko moments more powerful than this, or hell, even Kira moments (see Duet. . .season 1).

  • @CParish24 I agree 100% but this scene was also shot beautifully as well. The way the camera zooms in on Kira's slow-motion reaction and how the hat falls to the ground is terrific. Even the music builds the drama. Fantastic.

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