Why aren't penalized sites notified in Webmaster Tools?

[agapitoflores001]

Good question! It applies to me.

[SandySEOss]

All good websites gone out from your search engine,and I am getting only torrent results on google search..your recent panda update is worst,(9th sept)

Google panda is crappy and spoiling google's quality

[gazzerman]

Matt your failing on an epic level! In a bad economy, leaving honest businesses to fail is just plain wrong. At the very LEAST educate people in Google forums as they are like headless chickens. You need to tak a long hard look at this again and if you still think your doing all you can you should be ashamed of yourself.

[tagSeoBlog]

so the question is: when does Google think that my site is a good one? By Algo or manually? I think its a too simple explanation...

[fgults]

This message for Matt Cutts. In past other sites could not do any harm to your site by FFA or Link Farms or links from porn sites. But now anybody can make any harm to any site. Now inbound / paid links are causing Penalty. So I can harm your site. Now penalty became a business for some self claimed seo guys having tie up with Google. Google's new Penalty Policy is a mess and I think in future in next 3-5 years Google will loose its Search engine ranking reputation for this. Time will tell us.

[ROCKNTV1]

Why aren't penalized sites notified in Webmaster Tools?

[swtsinamon66]

matt my site doesnt use blackhat tactics... my site is the good guys. We did buy links back in 2008 I dont deny that. But honestly we didn't know. Every seo we delt with said we needed more links. Once we realized we weren't suppose to get paid links we got rid of all of them. We want our site to be in good standings with google. Why can't we given another chance? The last thing we want is to have a problem with indexing. Matt if you would review my site you would see we have made lots of change

[calculatorti]

@swtsinamon66

Submit a site reconsideration through google webmaster tools. State your reasoning for reconsideration. Google will review your site.

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[TheDrunkProducer]

That is total crap google you don't contact anybody you couldn't give a monkey's about anybody's website thousands or even millions of sites have probably gone bust because they have received a goolge penalty without any warning and explanation and of course no support to help them. Nobody goes out to get their website penalised on a purpose people make mistakes that's human nature but google doesn't see it that way you're a big bad evil monster to them.

[calculatorti]

@TheDrunkProducer

In my experience it isn't that difficult to stay way from things that get penalized. If you have been penalized you probably did something to deserve it. If you do everything above board there is no reason for a penalty. You can even submit a reconsideration request through webmaster tools if you feel your penalty was unfair. Google isn't perfect but rarely do they penalize sites who haven't tried to do something shady.

[xspazio]

Hello,

Do you know like this google "penalize" the good webmaster (i mean the clan one)?

To me took 7-8 days to find out the reason for my ban and just "for luck", if i don't had a friend who find out the problem, maybe my site was still banned.

A spammer know exactly why is banned and will made immediate a "reconsideration request"...

[ShaneSelby]

Does google also try to email you at postmaster@ or info@ to warn you if you've been hacked as well?

[manfmnantucket]

we're not talking about checking your rankings, but about what happens after you notice they got zapped. Lack of disclosure imposes a disproportionate diagnostic cost on smaller companies - ie it's not 'neutrality'.

[manfmnantucket]

agreed- if goog traffic suddenly halts one must decide: invest in finding out how goog changed, or spend to correct for a penalty? With no alert, how do you spend?

For small/livelihood sites, this is a do-or-die choice, thus Goog's lack of transparency biases it against smaller sites.

In a competitive search ecosystem, the $ impact of one engine's penalty would be survivable - but goog's monopoly raises issues analagous Net Neutrality for ISPs.

Should search ops be regulated?

[todnyc]

If you don't have the time to check your keywords with "live" searches in Google every day, then you can certainly EXPECT to decline in the rankings; the competition is extreme, and literally on a global scale. You should also be increasing the number of links to your site by contacting webmasters of similar sites to help promote yours.

[oseymour]

You are free to go and use any other search engine you please. Its not a monopoly if the users choose to use your product.

[mattsoreco]

Sorry Matt, you don't. It happened to me without a warning. My site's is as far from black hat as possible.

[chordtune]

I'd like to believe this but in my personal experience this is just not true :-(. I am not a black hat bad guy but my rankings dropped for unknown reason(s) for several weeks then returned.

I had no feedback from Google at all. None. This despite multiple appeals from me - I don't want a recurrence of a penalty.

Google should act more responsibly and could so easily do so.

Grahame

[todnyc]

The reason for that would be that a number of sites have been making homepages or internal pages that have been better optimized for Google's index. The same way that you had climbed as high as YOU did, surpassing perhaps 1000's of others, is what the ones who have now surpassed YOU have done--only better. Take a look at the meta-data and the page design of the ones who are ahead of you, compare it with your own, and then go about making changes! I myself manage 3 sites & make changes regularly.

[todnyc]

And also, those sites may have just gotten more links recently!

[manfmnantucket]

okay I really dont understand the rationale here? if I dont' get notified but think I do have a penalty, does that mean I'm considered a 'bad guy'?

I did get warnings that someone had injected bad script into some pages a year ago, that was a great heads-up, I was able to find/delete the SQL injection.

If that's what it is THIS time I'd love to know which pages! It's been 3 months now waah.

[nyfalcon1]

Ty Matt

I got a message yesterday and someone hacked into my site and placed some bad urls and keywords. Without this message I would have had no idea why my site was taken out of the search results.

[aguf2001]

it´s looks like JP from Los Angeles is one of the bad gays... he didn´t get the warning. lol

[Rahulixigo]

Most of the time google never send any warning. Even Matt already accepted in video.

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