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  • you guy how say forza ways crap now forza 4 is out ha ha

  • Good unbias comparison

  • finally a normal comparison

    

  • GT5... DRIVING SIMULATOR

    Forza... kiddy game

  • @bmxracer91 Now, now Gt5 has GoKarts for the kiddies :)

  • @Smithster82 Now, now FM3 has special game modes for the kiddies :)

  • @bmxracer91 FORZA DRIFTER GAME !! GT5 GAME FOR GAY PEOPLE

  • @bmxracer91 FORZA DRIFTER GAME !! GT5 GAME FOR GAY PEOPLE

  • @alex99751 pass english class then reply

  • @alex99751 yet your ganna play it right queer?

  • @alex99751 u quite obviously haven't played GT5.... forza is so far from the real motorsport world it may aswell be mario kart but with no element of fun

  • 6.000.000.000 people have GT5

  • Graphics: GT5>FM3

    Sounds: FM3>GT5

    Realism: GT5>FM3

    Customization:FM3>GT5

    Fun: ....you decide.

  • @URsuckishATlife Ahah, Lets compar forza 4 to gt5, from the vids I've seen,

    Graphics: FM4>GT5

    Sounds: FM4>GT5

    Realism: FM4=GT5 (Not exactly sure)

    Customization: FM4>GT5 (Most likely so)

    Fun: (Exactly what you said) ;3

  • gt5 tiene una mejor apariencia de la carrocería del auto, pero forza 3 tiene una mejor simulación. En gt5 la conducción y la forma en que los autos chocan sigue siendo igual al gt1, los autos chocan como si fueran cajas de carton... fijense. un saludo

  • FORZA IS A SIMULATOR GT5 IS ARCADE SO STFU

  • @johnmessi3 lol its the other way around, forza is as arcade as it gets, shift 2 is better..

  • @johnmessi3 Lol your joking right?

  • If you want a realistic simulator, buy GT5.

    If you want a funny game, buy Forza 3

    If you just love cars and dream about that, buy the two games ;)

  • @cfusionpm

    Good video! Seems unbaised even gets a thumbs up from me. Also I agree with the arguments made in the video 100%.

  • i agree with this review 100%. Even thre verdict. Sometimes games are supposed to be awesome, not just technically awesome.

  • Ok, so there is no denying that GT5 is much better than F3 in terms of graphics. :D

  • no, gt5 does is not have "much better" graphics than f3. they are both really good, and considering forza 3 came out a while before gt5, i think forza's graphics are actually better

  • @fenderstratjourney your one dumbass bitch if you think that

  • @josearias1991 coming from somebody that probably only has gt5

  • @fenderstratjourney yea you fucken gay lord thats why i know a shit about the game you idiot. go and play both game then get a girl and a life then come reply back puss ass nigga

  • @josearias1991 that makes sense considering i have both games and a girl

  • LETS JUST ALL AGREE THAT FORZA 4 WILL KICK EVERYONES ASS!! OK??

  • @xdlugia1 LETS JUST ALL AGREE THAT GT6 WILL KICK EVERYONES ASS!! OK?? AND THEN FORZA 5

    AND THEN GT7 AND SO ON.

  • When you View these Forza vs Gran Turismo videos, its not a Competition! its a comparison you morons. Theres no trophy for the Better game, thats what racing is For!

  • excellent review, best one yet, sure glad not done by another fanboy of either game. I own both games and both look good, except for gt5 and thestandard model crap they tried to pull.

  • at the end hes just being a dick

  • you can narrow the field of view in gt 5 just like forza

  • 29 people have need for speed shift

  • @classicgamerewiever Lol sad that they thumb you up, u saw Need for Speed shift 2 unleashed? go take a look and come back.

  • @Sk1ll3d1337 it still has the need for speed look, its not real at all

  • @classicgamerewiever It's good enough to kick Forza 3 and Gt5 their asses.

  • I find this review now outdated because i would like him to re-do this with the FULL game of Gran Turismo 5, not just a downloaded taste.

    My conclusion is after watching many, many HD forza 3 (which i do like but i like gt5 more) clips, forza is less realistic, just for fun game while GT5 is more of a simulator, only thing that made me a bit :\ when gt5 came out and played it was the damage that you had to level up to make it realisticer and the overall cleanliness of the car. 10 laps and shines

  • @izabelini MORE REALISTIC* im sorry i didn't know what i was typing all that time...

  • My high quality forza 3 clip ... GT5 is stupid i have both games and forza is much more realistic  watch?v=E7OlQzHVBDw

  • i hjave to say too:ITS A FUCKING GAME.only nerds say something like: forza is for people who licks arses.some of you should grow up...

  • it aint really cool to say that forza 3 sucks. some people like forza others like Gt. but honestly said graphic in gt5 is better bur forza got better driving physics. some races in gt5 are really dumb. in gt4 was a 24 h race. only a freak can play a game 24h along. i like gt too i dont say that gt sucks or that forza sucks.if ya got x-box ya like forza iof ya got ps3 you like gt. whats the problem?one more question did anyone of you little pieces of shit play forza?

  • @SRBmadafaker I have completed all the Forza games so far and I can tell that it isnt even close to real driving with its superior physics since every time you add 4wd on a car, it will become ultimate winner of its class, every dang car has too much grip, AI is crap and races gets boring just like in GT, tho GT has some challenge in some races, which Forza dont have a clue about. I do like BOTH series but this comparing makes me, old guy, only laugh.

  • @SRBmadafaker erm it has a 24 hour race and thats a bad thing driving sims are suppose to be realistic and that race isnt optional you just do it if you want the game technically ends at extreme series also i have xbox and ps3 i chose gt5 so i guess its a fact that gt5 must be better

  • @SRBmadafaker also are you sure about the second point the guys in gt5 actually drive these cars not sugar coat it obviously forza doesnt do that as it took 2 years to make a new game they put no work

  • @SRBmadafaker i would get forza 3 but i dont know you tell me

  • @hfxgtxgtdfhtxzh

    hahaha

    what a joke

    you got to grow up and face the truth man...

    Forza 3 sucks

    You guys are too afraid to compare forza with premium model of gt5

  • ES MEJOR EL GRAN TURISMO 4 DE PS2 QUE EL FORZA 3 DE MICROSOFT QUE PORQUERIA.

  • seems unfair to compare a demo with a full dvd gae blu ray is not in effect in a demo

  • when gt5 gets rid of the premium non premium cars bullshit, then Gran Turismo can be considered better than Forza 3 in graphics.

  • @LifeLongRacer Even the standard cars in GT5 look better than the modeling in Forza.

  •  Did the dude that did this even play gt5? There are 3 selectable in car camera zoom levels. wide, zoom and extra zoom (with zoom being very similar to forza).. Meaning his "better field of view" argument is invalid And he prefers the bright, colorful and cartoony look for his sims... Right... Clearly a bias fanboi

  • @Gawdl3y HAHAHAHA!

    oh snap...

    LOL!

    You my friend, must be more blind than a bat. Not even, cause even they can see how false that statement was.

    Those "normal" cars look like GT3 blocks of clay.

  • @LifeLongRacer if by gt3s blocks of clay you mean better then forza 3s blocks of wood then yes i agree better visuals with caly and no blandness

  • @sonicadx Yea your right. Considering clay looks like shit and wood has great detail, then yes.

    Just wait till forza 4 comes out. Thats gonna bury GT5 and don't even bother talking about GT6, cause GT5 was not even finished, causing them to make "Regular" and "Premium". By the time GT6 comes out, I might not even be alive. Gran Turismo 5 is failure, my friend.

  • @LifeLongRacer wooden block has great visual ? no colors if its a faliure why do i play it faggotry motorsport is so fucking gey the tracks look like green hill zone and the colors look like gt pro series on wii ya faggot forza is a fail my friend wow 10 million sales for all forzas gt has 55 million for all gts gt shits on faggotry motorsport note: idgf if thats a word

  • @LifeLongRacer i dont even recall them actually drving the cars before they put em ingame are you kidding me bury it ? gran turismo 5 has a freaking gt tv mode and they patch the fucking game as well and there gonna bury it ?

  • @LifeLongRacer it took gt5 five years why cause they worked hard every single car has a bio telling how they came about there position in races and wether they won or not not just a short bio either about 4 paragraphs each

  • @LifeLongRacer you really should gt 3 versus forza 1 but gt3 would still win you mean import models dont you look at this video all the cars around him are standard i know that for a fact watch?v=BTrl8fc3jlg&feature=re­­lated

    ok tell me now they dont look good if they dont then either your butthurt, blind, or being too hardheaded to see

  • @LifeLongRacer well you should change the words hopefully if you have common sense you still may love forza (thats ineveitable) but you'll see that your wrong and gt3s models of clay are statues of architectual beauty when next to forzas block of wood see the actual gt3 in gameplay or atleast the intro which is pretty much gameplay mostly

  • @sonicadx GT3 looks better than Forza 3??!!!?!?!??!

    BWAHAHAHAAAHHHAHAHHAAHA

    You must be fucking BLIND. Even Stevie Wonder can see that Forza 3 looks better than GT3. Gt3 does not compare to Forza in any aspect. Please don't respond anymore. You're retarded.

  • @LifeLongRacer gt3 does look better who the fuck is retarded im not the one saying a wooden block which has no colors is better

  • @LifeLongRacer i said forza 1 anyway then talked about the import models from gt4 which came around the time of forza 1

  • @LifeLongRacer what kinda laugh is bwahahaha ? do you have throat cancer ?

  • @LifeLongRacer anyways speaking of which since you bring it up gt3 is actually close im not at fault for your misreading you are blind therefore

  • @sonicadx oh my god kid please stop flooding this video with your stupid fucking comments. You reply with a thousand comments; get your shit straight and reply with a single comment at a time. Everything you say is so stupid its making me sleepy. Throat Cancer? Is that even relevant to this argument? That just goes to show that you have nothing logical to bring up. LOL throat cancer. We got ourselves a comedian. Go play NFS since all you care about is graphics.

  • @LifeLongRacer lmao i do play nfs... i guess you cant support your argument since you seem to say you cant understand me basically... way to evade xD even i have the balls to keep on going

  • @LifeLongRacer you must be obsessed with forza i mean defends your game but also take a good look at other games aswell instead of being a whiny little bitch who sounds like hes on crack when he laughs "bwahahahaha" XD

  • @sonicadx I'm a whiny bitch? For every one comment I leave, you leave six fucking comments, dumbass. Now your saying I'm obsessed with Forza? Again, your the one leaving 20 comments cause you can't get everything you want to say in one comment cause your a pathetic retard trying SO hard to defend GT5. It is obvious that your giving up on defending GT5, so I won this argument. Oh, and you keep making fun of how I laugh "virtually"? I feel bad for you kid. Don't reply anymore I'm done with you.

  • @LifeLongRacer ah now i see yes i like gt which is my point dumbass you obviously like forza dipshit so why the fuck are you arguing for... also this is an argument yeah but honestly no on wins in life idiot im just getting my point that you cant seem to understand cause you are an ignorant jackass who trolls on gt5 here and there

  • @LifeLongRacer lmao thats really fucking ironic you stupid moron your the one who apparently won this argument yet your trying to pussy out im replying no matter what faggot speaking of which why are you playing your faggotry motorsport right now ? funny thing is theirs no funny name to come up for gran turismo... granny boreismo sucks ass as a name

  • @LifeLongRacer i see... so im giving up yet im not trying to bitch my way out of this and am still replying very intelligent comeback

  • @LifeLongRacer also if i make more posts that means im pussying out ? are you that much of a dumbshit ?

  • @LifeLongRacer and you feel bad for me yet im kicking your ass what an ignorant asshole...

  • @LifeLongRacer also think about it this way how are forza 3s car models so much better then gt5s standard models other then spamming bullfuck or cockpit view in which doesnt apply as the standard models have the gist of it in gt5 in which i mean that you can still see the driver turning the wheel if you look back on the rear view camra angle

  • @sonicadx also id still take clay wood has shit colors and its a block of clay as you said so im just following the rules

  • @LifeLongRacer why did you delete your comment yes you are one and your still bo=itching about it to ppl who dont care what you think

  • @Gawdl3y GT5 IS A GAME FOR GAY PEOPLE!

  • gt5 is overselled

  • GT5 has way better graphics than FM3...

  • finally an unbiased comparison :D

  • Forza 3 is customizable and fun. All the cars in FM3 are high quality. Standard cars are for n00bz.

  • GT5 is much better but GT5 is newer. U must compare it to F4. Ive got PS3 GT5 and Xbox F3 and graphics on GT5 is much better then F3. F3 graphics r same to GT4 on ps2

  • forza!!

  • racing games now have the capability to be made very realistic, so thats how they should be made, for realism. gt5 does this perfectly, needs a little polishing off, scratches removed and wheelnuts fully tightened (see what i done there!!), but it's much more realistic, especially the in car view. forza 3 doesn't seem finished off to me. it's car customisation is fantastic, especially if the person designing them has an artistic imagination, but lacks something big

  • PS3 and Xbox are different systems. While I am a PS3 and GT5 fan, I feel that you should compare them when the games are out for both systems, or the argument is irrelevant.

  • the head position on Gt5 can be adjusted in game. half the video is void

  • @ezarez54 really? i havent seen that bit yet, i know you can move it around when pitting but whered you change it?:)

  • GT5 is most realistic (Graphics) racing game- Physics isn't realistic

  • Has redrider123465 ever got laid? No.

  • I think all of you need to get laid.

  • FORZA SUX ARSE AND PEOPLE WHO LIKE IT LICK BALLS!!!

  • LOL...actually there's an option you can adjust how close you want the camera to the wheel on GT5. its easy, just pause the game and select the closer view in the options menu. it gives you the same up close veiw as Forza does and even a bit closer if need be. the only thing to note is, the closer you are to the wheel the slower the scenery flys by.

  • @019208237 main reason why comparing a demo to a full game is useless. Still gt5 full game is a much better looking game than forza.

  • @slyjc18 any demo or beta looks almost the same to the final game except for some details

  • @slyjc18 That's funny because the graphics in Prologue are actually better than the final game. Most of GT5's cars are recycled from GT4 and it shows. LMAO the standard cars look like absolute trash.

  • @redrider123463 lol.

  • i can tell your a forza fanboy.... "You can see better in forza" my ass you fucking fanboy go play forza GAYsport 3 dicks

  • Xbox peeps are trying really hard lolol. How do u compare hd vs 3d??? Xbox is for poor people....

  • This is well said. Amazing. Shut up fumb fucks. GT5 is awsome for people who have 3D Tv's and a ps3. Forza is a nice arcade racer for People who don't have alot of money.

  • @2supersjors8 Thank you. Some one here has some sense

  • Blu-Ray - 80gb

    DVD - 15gb

    More space = more room for better graphics

  • @ryleylongryley wooow ur a bit dumb can u read a what a dvd says on the front. DVD 4.7

    Bluray = 25gb

    80gb not possible mate

  • You can zoom your camera in on GT5 cockpit view.

  • @Guitarplayer219 really? ive been wondering about this because forza 3 has a goofy cockpit view for many cars

  • @eaglesdood16 Yeah, it's in the settings, it's normal, zoom, or extra zoom.

  • GT5 has realistic graphics i mean realistic color palette ! FORZA has cartoonich color ! technicaly GT5 > FORZA 3 ! see the technical test on Eurogamer

  • It's still not in 3D... A 3d tv cost $1500, to $3000 maybe even $4000, so explain to me how forza looks better on a $400-$600 tv? I'm done you people are just dumb.

  • Okay if GT5 came out on xbox it would look no fucking different, if Forza came out on the PS3 it wouldn't look different. Mainly my point is both consoles are great and both have great games, but the consoles don't decide what the game looks like that would be the developers of the games not the consoles themselves. Killzone 3 will look just as good on the xbox just as it did on PS3 as the same with Gears of war on the PS3! NO DIFFERENCE! So STFU EVERYONE and JUST PLAY THE GAME!

  • @GL4dia70r PS3 has better Graphic CARD suckaaa

  • @ViRaLTiGeRps3 TELL'EM MAN!

  • I have to wonder if its the paint color though. If they're both using the standard red the 370Z was offered in, then I'd have to say that Forza 3 is in fact more accurate in that case. That's really nit picking it though, and I'm probably biased on this subject since the 370Z is the car I own right now lol.

  • GT% is the best by far

  • Would you compare SD vs HD??? You fucking broke ass kids have no clue!!! You are comparing HD vs 3D! Sorry kids xbox has 10 years to go get over it.

  • @dillz347 both console have same graphis for all games it mainly depends on the game not console!

  • @dillz347 both console have same graphic for all games. it mainly depends on the game not console!

  • @dillz347 Both games are brilliant and FM3 isnt that far behind. Fall 2011, enough said.

  • Both GT5 and Forza 3 have no realistic damage!!!In simulator games you must has graphics and realistic driving!!!Finally i believe that both simulators have these characteristics but the GT5 has better graphics!!!

  • @hfxgtxgtdfhtxzh

    Oh wait, I don't own GT5 yet. I've played it for a couple days though. xD

  • @hfxgtxgtdfhtxzh

    Wow, that was the worst grammar I have ever read. I own BOTH Forza 3 and GT5. GT5 does reign on top. I accept that fact. It's you denial fanfags who don't.

  • @hfxgtxgtdfhtxzh

    GT5 has more realism. GT5 doesn't suck, fanfag. You're obviously an irrelevant fanfag who knows nothing about GT5 or you would know it comes out on top.

  • @hfxgtxgtdfhtxzh

    - Not true. You obviously haven't played the game.

    - No, they aren't. I see some fanboy colors starting to show now.

    - 1031 cars. 216 Premium having dashboard view and dashboard damage/removal if crashed.

  • really, iv had gran turismo 5 ever since it was released in november, and it has just over 1000 cars that have all been tested for acelleration, braking and handling charactaristics, this is one thing that forza didnt do, hence there wobbly performance, and the oversteer is how you drive the cars,

    so it sounds like u know nothing or trying to be picky

  • 27 butts are irritated

  • @threedaysofdan

    The standard car models look pants, you need to go have your eyes checked, really.

    Plus there is way too much slow down (I have a 400hz tv by the way)

    Corrected, listen to die hard movies all of which are 80s films, notice the resemblance,,,,,, you probably won't because your a blinded fan boy.

  • you should compare the game now its out and on the actual game not the demo you can have different zooms on the incar view

  • I like how here even the F3 fanboys prefer arcade over realism (ex. Better dash view, saturated colors), that says a lot forza fans. There's a difference between better graphics and realistic graphics (better graphics being to your own preference vs. Reality.)

  • @track4life2005

    The menu music is terrible in gt5, it sounds like your walking through a late 80's shopping centre.

    The standard model cars look trash and I've got a 42inch tv, and forza does look/sound better honestly.

  • @Kcon83 lol if anything the musics classy its not from the 80's and most standard cars look better than forza3's cars

  • You know what, I've played forza all the time etc and love it.

    I thought bollox to it I'll gt5. And the hype about the graphics is well over rated, forza looks alot better, the car models in gt5 actually on your screen not a YouTube vid look pretty poor.

    On the up side though the handling mechanics have greatly improved, which is good.

  • ive been playing GT since 1st came out.. and il be Honest.. Forza 3 is way better... bot hare good games... if they reunite Powers then will be badass game xD

  • GT5 is a far superior game, the physics and the cars have a realistic look and feel.

  • if it looks more realistic, shouldnt gran turismo be the better of the two, i prefer GT5 over forza cos when playing forza, it seems....... shit really

    the opposite can be said for GT5 though, the realism put you in a different state of mind when playing and that gives u more of a thrill when playing

  • Over 600 of the cars in gt5 are from the ps2, yeah really amazing lol, SUCKERS !!.

    Forza 4 is going to destroy gt5s pathetic attempt.

    Get an xbox you ps3 guys, I've got a ps3 but just use that to charge my iPhone up lol.

  • Gran turismo is borrrrrrinnnggggggggggg

  • @Kcon83 thank god someone said that the jazz in gt5 puts me to sleep every time i play and the fact i cant inv my friends to race with me easily really kills it for me

  • JAJAJA, he says GT5 has a more realistic view. My god, you like play that cartoon game of forza dont you, Xbox fan boy.

  • WHAT!! LOOK AT THE COCKPIT VIEW!! GT5 looks much better and you can see a little from the right side window. The cockpit view in Forza is horrible compare to GT5.

  • Gt5 is better xD

  • Fucking MS faboys .__.

  • Forza3 (2009)

    GT5 (2010)

  • @betolakodo1 big diference '-'

  • I am writing this words almost under every youtube gt5 and forza 3 video - gt5 is photorealistic. I dont give a damn if it have smoe worst or better textures. I dont care if wood look like a 2D wall - OVERALL when you first time look at this game replay - you starting to think "is it real race or just a game??" Then you look closer and then "yep its a game" - and when you see forza 3 - you can tell from the first view it is just a game. Gt5 = better lighting, better car details, weak shadows.

  • final build of gt5 is fkin awesome!!

  • only one answer to all the question, GT5 = PHOTO REALISM!!!!

  • Real-time lighting in the car ftw!

  • And yes these cars have been taken straight off the show room. after couple of races the cars get dirty den u can wash it at the gt auto section, does forza has this feature? I dont think so. Played forza for 3 days den sold it.

  • Gran turismo cockpit view has three zooming stages u ideot. And i prefer realism not something made too look good and not taking realism into account.

  • @ahm05051746 i dont see how u can call him an idiot considering u cant even spell that, and also thats just your personal opinion if u prefer realism or visuals.

  • wtf forzas interior is better cause it has better field of view . You aint some granny who drives with nose just behind steering wheel .

  • forza's interior are like shit!!!, it looks like a toy car, GT5's interior is what a serious customers is specting after all this delays

  • "in GT5, the cars look almost too glossy, like they've been taking straight off the showroom floor and have never seen a racetrack before" !!!!! hey buddy, gran turismo is the only simulator that gets dirty cars after you've raced them a few times. you can wash them at GT Auto for cheap. DUMB COMPARISON. GT5 FTW

  • Demo vs full release .... hmmmmm compare full release vs full release next time

  • not final GT5 graphics. Compare it to a newer demo and not one that was made for a tournament.

  • @superbad123abc Check the upload date: February 16, 2010. That's 9 months ago, and only 2 months after the demo.

  • @cfusionpm Yeah but the GT5 demo was made for the GT Academy. It only focuses on Physics and not graphics. There's newer videos that look a million times better. Check out the Nissan Autech GT-R instead of the unfinished 370z.

  • @superbad123abc To be honest, my PS3 is collecting dust. I was through with wasting my time on Gran Turismo after getting sick of their first demo (GT5p) three years ago. I'll be picking up GT5 tomorrow, though. It should be fantastic.

  • So what if GT5 isn't out, Forza is the one who says" i must be released first so that people will buy me quickly" GT5 says " i'm gonna have my own sweet time producing and let people choose whether to have me or not."

  • @Skampo1119 Let's get some perspective here. In the time between GT4 and GT5, the following racing games have been released: PGR3, PGR4, DiRT, GRID, DiRT2, F1 2010, Forza 2, Forza 3, six NFS titles, three Burnout titles, etc, etc.

    There are plenty of options for racing that we petrolheads have been able to sink into in the mean time. Now I love GT and have no doubts GT5 will be amazing. It just would have been nice to have it three years ago.

  • @cfusionpm -_-" I'm just gonna explain what I think. GT5 is a PS3 exclusive, Forza 3 is a Xbox exclusive, we are not talking about other racing games with multiple platforms because it's just not an exclusive. Sony has been stuck with GT5 prologue and sales did not go high, while Forza sales were so much better than GT5 and mulitple platform racing games. Obviously people will turn their attention to Forza and some would even buy Xbox.

  • @Skampo1119 Well my point (in these comments) is that PD has taken it's sweet ass time putting out GT5. There have been "tentative dates" for at LEAST the last two years. I'm frankly sick of it. At least tomorrow I can finally play it, but the problem with GT5 is that there have been a LOT of other really good games that have come out while PD's collective heads were in the sand, ignoring everyone else. It has a lot to live up to. This vid was more a test on 3D/flat images than anything else

  • @cfusionpm I started my first comment because people were like "Ohh GT5 isn't out yet and they are comparing with a Forza." I was sick of hearing it so I posted my comment and you came talking to me about other games and now you telling me that this vid is about graphics. note: ( i'm not trying to argue or anything, just saying) By the way wtf is PD ( i'm not a person going around searching for racing games) so that I understand what you trying to tell me about that particular game/item

  • @Skampo1119 PD = Polyphony Digital, the dev and production team responsible for the GT series. And no worries. Like I said, the video was mostly made for me to experiment with After Effects and making screen shots "3D." I'm about as far from a fanboy as some of the other commentators may want to believe, but I do think some of the posts here are pretty funny, and I try to address things as they come up. Cheers!

  • @cfusionpm Oh i see, I know what is Polyphony Digital just that i didn't know about the short form thingy, thanks for the info though...

  • @cfusionpm yes, alot of good games have come out, forza 3 for example. but i cant even wrap my head how they can create 1031 cars with good detail in one racing game and only take 4 or 5 years doing it.

  • @NicholasBouchard Many of the cars are duplicates, IE same car, different year. Differences are minimal at best. How many of these 1000 cars are Skylines and Silvias? :P I'll gladly take "only" a couple hundred cars if they're cars I actually want.