If the Spaniards never conquered parts of south america, central america, mexico, these words Latino and Hispanic would proably not exist. Then mexico would speak a native language. Asian is not race either how come no one brings up that fact. But whatever I like all cultures of people regardless of color or beliefs. I proud to be a Spaniard/Mexican Indian Mestizo. People hate on spanish speakers because they are proud whats wrong with that???
whats so funny is the name Latino..... Root word Latin. No no one has really spoken that pure latin language since the second fall of Rome. Spanish is a Latin language but not really Latin the same for Portuguese, Italian, and French. So if every one in central and south america are Latinos that would also in logic mean France Portugal and Italy are Latino Countries as well its all divide and conquer from Eurocentrics and i think we need to stop the Ignorance
@HughJass370 If you're Mestizo, that's your race, Mestizo, which means "mixed" (Just like saying "I'm of mixed race"). Except the usage of the word Mestizo inherently entails that one is referring to a specific mix, that is, Amerindian and Caucasian, REGARDLESS of the amount of contribution from each, in other words, it doesn't have to be 50/50, one could be the offspring of a Mestizo (instead of full Amerindian) and a Caucasian and still be Mestizo.
@HughJass370 That's entirely up to you, I would not dare tell anyone what race they should identify with. Just be aware that, since 'Race' (as used for humans) is a social construct and it is ascribed to us by the general population of the society in which we live, it's not really something that we 'chose'. Best thing to do is probably to describe your family background and let THEM decide what race you are, but do remind them that "Hispanic" and "Latino" are NOT races.
Pacific islanders are basically Asian southern mongoloids living on little islands in the Pacific that was once part of south east Asia but broke into little islands and drifted into the Pacific DNA genetics skull teeth facial features still mongoloid still has DNA of those like Filipino Indonesian Malaysian southern Chinese Vietnamese Cambodian and the rest of south east Asia etc
If we Latinos were a race,we all would have been white or black,but this is not the case.Latinos come in a wide variety of skin color and features.there are some Latinos that look Asian,others look European,Indian,Mestizos,African,etc,etc.
"Nuestra Cultura"?? Jajaja, no me hagan reir. Les propongo a estos Mexicanos, Centroamericanos, y Caribeños que se vayan al Cono Sur a ver si se sienten que estan en la misma "cultura". Por favor, no me digan estupideces, no hay ninguna cultura 'nuestra'. Por eso nunca ha habido una union en America Latina, cada pais tiene su propia cultura y nos odiamos unos a los otros. Eso de que somos de una misma cultura nacio en las comunidades Hispanas de EEUU y pueblos fronterizos de Mexico.
@lookagain77 True this latino Unidos crap is so fake. Most always talk behind each other. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, South Americans talking about how the city, town, etc that they are living in is now full of indios aka mexicans and central americans. While mexicans say fuck estos Negros dominicanos, Putos Puertorriquenos, etc.
The funny thing is that the South Americans who i have seen say estos Indios Centro Americanos y Bolivianos, look just like them. lol
@LatinoIsntARace Exactly, I was raised in 4 different countries in Latin America, and the first thing I noticed when moving from one to another was how different in culture each one was and how everyone would hate on the previous country I was in, specifically because of cultural differences. I LIVED IT, I'll be damned if some US-raised kids with Hispanic ancestry are gonna tell me we're all brothers and sisters and we're all a happy family and sing kumbaya...PURE BULLSHIT!
@lookagain77 Correct but some Brown Pride t shirt wearing ( even though he or she got pale white milky skin and isn't even close to being brown ) idiot que vivan los latinos Jackass, is gonna tell us that we're lying and that there is no such thing as racism in latin america. How we're all latin, latino brothers and sisters. lmao and some are stupid enough to say that they're spaniard, like some mexican american "comic" who uses the word Spaniard when talking about latin americans.
Agreed. Demographers who help the media and mainstream politicians don't understand your valid point. They like to use simple minded generalities like "Will xxxx be able to get the Hispanic vote" -like everyone with a Hispanic background think exactly the same on every issue. I'd like to kick the tv down the stairs when I hear this nonsense.
@torr59622 Yep and also on the news, when they're trying to catch a criminal they say. A "Hispanic" Male, or they'll say a white or Hispanic male. Once again turning the word hispanic into a race. If the "Hispanic male Looks white or black he can walk freely on the streets, because most people wont be looking for that type.
I have a letter drafted for the Philly Daily News that takes that issue head-on. Why arent descriptions used for suspects that are "Irish" "Jewish or "Italian-looking?". Who decided it would make sense to say a suspect was "Hispanic". wtf
@torr59622 I always wondered, what possible significant statistical data could you gather from lumping a lot of people who may not even really have anything in common together? I mean, I'm a white Hispanic born and RAISED in South America that came to the USA almost as an adult, what could I possibly have in common with some Mestizo guy born and raised in the United States? Nothing! Not even culturally speaking! He wasn't raised in MY culture, why lump me and him in the same 'group'?
@lookagain77 My theory-there is voting power in classifying as many people as possible as "non-white" or "other". It backfires though. Last week I read an article that Perry will do well "with Hispanics" due to his immigration-friendly stance. What if you are Puerto Rican and could care less about immigration in Texas? Cuban-Americans dont care either. Of 50 mill hispanics, only 33 mi are voting age. Less than 1/2 vote. The media thinks all 16 million vote the same way-or hopes they do.
why are blacks considered blacks anyways if they too have white in them...all of them unless they are african. White man have always raped their women. Let's call them what they are Mulattos then.
@kitzenmovies I call them mulatto, not black. In the United States though, anyone with black ancestry is considered black no matter if he or she looks mostly white.
@LatinoIsntARace Ok heres the funny part, the hispanic ethnic group in the USA is pushed to calling black people moreno, when they are not! indians are morenos, it's a skin tone of redish brown or mexican looking brown if you know what i mean. Blacks we call them negros, but if they overhear they will try to beat up whoever said it even if it was an old lady. It is not wrong when are speaking spanish to call them negros. I guess what im trying to see everything is relative...
Latino is not a race but we are a power....and your goverment knows it....btw most of those latinos are amerindians...natives...indians whatever you wanna call it...but then ur gonna have to explain all the white people why these people aren't immigrants to the americas at all...its more convinient to have us as the foreigners :)
@kitzenmovies You're so proud of your native roots that you keep calling yourself latino. lol
Keep calling Spain the mother land and while your at it Italy also. Might as well also bow down to Portugal, France and Romania.
The excuse i always see people posting on youtube is, *well latino means something else now, so it's alright to use it. now* excuses my native american european culture worshiping idiots.
If you had any native pride you would never consider yourselves Latino and Hispanic.
@LatinoIsntARace who ever said i call spain the mother land? or call myself latino? Get this through your white mutt head I am a decendent of the Mexica/Mechica/Aztec tribe. Don't hate cuz we as a latin american group decided to band ourselves together =) or because people from India are actually caucasian...oh btw while you all are kissing englands ass, we dont call spain the mother land as a matter of fact we call them names you dont wanna know
@kitzenmovies Really a mestizo like you callling me a mutt? LMAO
Funny how all you idiots keep calling yourselves aztec without knowing if you're actually a descendent of the tribes who helped the Spanish Conquistadors to overthrow the Aztec Empire.
Also i'm "Latin" American and i know that Indians are caucasian what you thought that would get to me? lol You Assumed that i'm a White racist who only thinks Europeans are caucasians.
And yes Latin Americans do call Spain the Mother land.
@LatinoIsntARace I don't call spain motherland...sumtimes i do a russian accent and call russia the motherland but that's to fuck with people the mexicans i know dont, the salvadorians i know dont, anyone who is raised outside the us doesnt!! we call them gachupines, like and my family comes technotitlan...aka mexico city...btw the aztecs wasnt just one tribe...so yo know...
@kitzenmovies Well then if all the people you know don't then that's good.
But most do especially the ones born in latin america.
You must have never watched Spanish speaking television because they clearly say that Spain is the motherland. Now of course most of the ones on tv are white latin americans, but even the non whites say it too.
@LatinoIsntARace and yes american are mutts and sometimes even mestizos as well, most americans i know have some native in them...which is quite funny actually...hating on latinos when they are technically the same things rofl
@lookagain77 Y tu que quieres que te explique? Y en nuestra cultura Americanos son todos los que nacen en el continente de America. Los que nacen en el USA so estadounidenses
@kitzenmovies "Americanos son todos los que nacen en el continente de America" Si, pero no todos los que nacen en el continente de America son Hispanos.....
ATTENTION: If you are the offspring of Hispanic immigrants and you were raised in the United States, I implore you, please go live for at least a full year in Latin America (short-stay visits DO NOT count), maybe 2 or 3 years, the more the better. You will realize how wrong you were about a great many things concerning your own ethnicity and how people over there think VERY differently than you and your fellow Americanized "Hispanics/Latinos".
So what really constitutes a race? LOOKING DIFFERENT constitutes a race. if we just went off of ancestry, then we would consider everybody around today African. we make the distinction between races because of looks, and we Hispanics don't look black, white, or asian. not including Hispanic as a race on the census is misinforming and doesn't give people an accurate picture in their mind.
@juke521 The problem is, the race you are referring to as "Hispanic" is actually called MESTIZO. It's been called that for the last 500 years in Latin America. The word "Hispanic" does not denote 'race' (look it up in the dictionary) and using it as such is what creates misinformation. The whites and blacks from Spanish-speaking countries deserve to be recognized as being Hispanics, how can you do that if you usurp the word to refer to ONLY Mestizos with it? I am white, and I AM HISPANIC.
@juke521 Wrong, you got mental problems if you think we all look alike to be considered a single race. A lot of "Hispanics" do look and are White, Black and Native American. Turning the word hispanic, latin, latino into a race is very misinforming and racist.
Seems like you don't watch Latin American tv shows, News and interact with latin americans for you to be saying that we "all" don't look White, Black, Native American/ Ameri-indian and asian.
@LatinoIsntARace Most of us are dark with black or brown hair and even those who are lighter consider themselves separate from other races. I myself look more Spaniard than Indian, but my father is one of the darker hispanics and my mother just happens to be lighter. regardless, we all consider ourselves different from other groups of people. "Hispanic" should only be used for Mestizos or their children, not blacks who are BLACK, whites who are WHITE, or asians who are ASIAN.
@juke521 Mestizo should be the word. Hispanic should only be for people from Spain. But i don't care who uses it. As long as they don't use it as if the word hispanic is a race because it's not.
What's the point of the word mestizo if the mestizos themselves don't even use it.
It's sad that the (American-born and raised) children of Hispanic immigrants have become the number one source of misinformation regarding the nature of their own race and ethnicity. At first it was just the government (starting with the Nixon administration) and the media, but in the last 30 years or so it's been these American-born children that have perpetuated the misinformation. What a shame. Ironically, they always speak of being proud of their rich history. Well, shit, learn some of it!!!
@lookagain77 I am wondering if americans learn roman history in their school.... if they learn roman and latin history, they would not be confused..... I think all countries have seperate class for roman history...
wtf? latino and hispanic(hispania) is reffered to romans....it's not about race but tribe.... and that tribe of roman's race is european..... latin is white race.... hispanic(hispanico) is reffered to spaniard people.....central and south americans are descendant of latin....just because central and south americans are descendant of latin dont mean US people can change the original meaning. US is dumb country... they use wrong usage of terms and are very ignorant...The US should educate people!
@TwinBullet If that was your point, then I fail to see how I missed it. A black person with Anglo-Saxon heritage is about the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard, of course you have to be Anglo Saxon to claim Anglo Saxon culture as a rightful heritage, I'm surprised that's even a question. Cultural assimilation does not equal heritage by the way.
@TwinBullet We all have our own ancestral (read: Racial) heritage, my hypothetical Asian simply doesn't have the right to identify with a culture his ancestors had nothing to do with. Spanish and Hispanic are interchangeable terms, they describe the same race of people. Only those with the blood of Hispania (last post was a mistake) in them can claim Spanish (Hispanic) culture. Cultural heritage is not a free-for-all that anybody can claim, that is the perverse notion of multi-culturalism.
@Time2Keeper1 Words change or get ADDED meanings over time, get over it. The word "Hispano" in the Spanish lexicon OFFICIALLY changed (and added to) its meaning when the RAE (Real Academia Española), the ultimate authority on the Spanish language (located in Spain) changed it for the first time in the mid-to-late 1800's. The word underwent even further changes throughout the early 1900's as well. Wanna blame somebody for OFFICIALLY corrupting the word?? Blame the Spaniards at the RAE.
@Time2Keeper1 Good for you, but using an archaic and no-longer existent meaning of the word to support your arguments is ridiculous. What's next? We're going to argue about how a homosexual person who is not in a "happy" mood cannot call him/herself "gay"??? Give me a fucking break....Whether the official change in the meaning of the word was a good idea or not, the change has already taken place...a hundred years ago! Get over it. So try to make your arguments using the CURRENT definitions.
@lookagain77 Archaic meaning yes, but non-existent? To me THAT is ridiculous. Regardless of the use a certain word has received in a society, the "science" of the word remains the same. Demon still describes a "guardian spirit", angel still means "messenger", gay still means "happy", and Hispanic still means someone of Spanish blood, and there's no reason to feel those words shouldn't be used for their original meaning. This subject of meanings was never the point I wanted to make, however.
@Time2Keeper1 "Hispanic still means someone of Spanish blood" I don't think so buddy, it can refer to a Spaniard, yes, but a mulatto can be a Spaniard. Don't believe me, look up the definition of SPANIARD in English AND in Spanish, race and heritage are NOT a requirement to fit that definition, it USED to be a 100 years ago, but NO LONGER as I've said. Have you ever heard of SOPHISTRY?? That is what you're doing, I can spot Sophistry a mile away and will expose every error in your logic.
@lookagain77 I'm sure you feel you can spot many things, but from what I've seen, those who challenge by claiming to have "SOME SERIOUS FUCKING LOGIC", mostly turn out the tamest and most sheep-like of thinkers.
@Time2Keeper1 "Asian simply doesn't have the right to identify with a culture his ancestors had nothing to do with" Here, having "the right" mainly depends on the DEFINITION of the word CULTURE. Yes? So we ARE talking Semantics here, and the definition of the word "Culture" does NOT require nor imply that a person have his ancestors be part of the culture being claimed. You can't just give words your own definitions and expect to correctly use them within the already established lexicon. Absurd!
@lookagain77 The term "Culture" (using Semantics) has 164 legitimate uses, and knowing that I thought the context of my post made it clear what I meant. Someone who experiments with and cherishes different cultures that he sees is a cultural person, for example, but that has nothing to do with Heritage. A person can assimilate with a people and their culture, but they can't claim it as HERITAGE, because they're of a different race therefore-
@Time2Keeper1 If one of the many "legitimate uses" for the word 'culture' justifies your statement about an Asian not having the right to identify with the Hispanic Culture, then I assure you one of those oh-so-many "legitimate uses" justifies them to do so. But if you already knew this then...didn't you already know that when an Asian claims to be Hispanic they're simply using one of the "164 legitimate uses" where they are actually given the right to claim to be Hispanic??
@lookagain77 Didn't I make it clear in the post? I meant that the Semantics of the term "Culture" give it around 164 appropriate uses, you make it sound as if I was only using a figure of speech. The same doesn't go with Hispanic, anyone can practice whatever they want, but someone walking around calling himself Hispanic is implying more than that and you know it. It's like if I were to start calling myself Nordic, the idea that I can call myself that if I wanted to is-
@Time2Keeper1 - an apalling ideal that can only have the doctrine of multi-culturalism at it's core. That kind of crap only destroys any sliver of uniqueness we have as a people in these times.
@Time2Keeper1 "someone walking around calling himself Hispanic is implying more than that and you know it", Have you thought that maybe YOU are the one implying something they did not when you hear an Asian calling himself a Hispanic? I've noticed in most of your comments there many 'implications' and 'assumptions' being made so it only makes sense that this is your Modus Operandi. I'm not interested in 'implications', only in the correct usage of words according to their current definitions.
@lookagain77 I mean, current uses that many words or terms have today aren't NECESSARILY the correct meanings. Haven't I made my stance on this clear enough after so many posts?
@Time2Keeper1 But that's the same stance that SUPPORTS my stance (and most everyone else's on here) that people are wrongly using the word "Hispanic" as a race when it actually means something unrelated to race to where even an Asian could rightfully use it!!!! So no, your stance is NOT clear!! If an Asian in, say, Peru, calls himself a Hispanic he is referring to something else than the actual meaning of the word then?? But what?? Race?? I doubt it! That word is not used like that over there!!
@lookagain77 The term Hispanic is a word that refers to only one type of people: the Iberian people (and their descendants of course). I am for the LITERAL definitions of words, you are (apparently) for CULTURAL definitions, those are not the same stances.
@Time2Keeper1 I see, so now there are two types of definitions for the word "Hispanic", Literal and Cultural. Nice. You know, at first I thought you were just an amateur Sophist, but now I realize you're a master at it, I gotta hand it to you. Good work, you've created an entire semantic system that within itself is completely logical (which is hard to accomplish usually). Too bad it's not the system that's in current existence in reality.
@TwinBullet lol Yeah but sadly i don't think people would fight, as Obama would've been seen as just "Hispanic". no mention of black or white.
Fucked up how just a surname and being born in certain countries can make people see you different.
I just hope if the United States ever has an "Hispanic" president that it would be a blonde hair, blue eyed, pale white skin hispanic or a Really dark black "hispanic" just to see how people will react.
I don't know, i mean i've seen people post how Anderson Silva isn't black because he's from Brazil.
So if Obama would've had a Spanish surname he would've been seen as the first Hispanic/ Latino president in the United States instead of the first black president.
@TwinBullet Yep as the first interracial couple. In those days he was seen as "Latin" and thats it.
They wanted her to do the show with somebody else and not her husband.
But she told them if she couldn't do the show with him then she wouldn't do it at all.
I think if mexicans and other Latin americans didn't migrate to the United States cubans would've been seen as white people in the United States by now.
Just like how Jews are treated as white Especially in the East Coast.
For nearly 4 centuries the Spanish ruled the island of GUAM. Spaniards & Mexicans arriving to the island as part of the Acapulco-Manila Galleon trade route, intermarried with the native Chamorro people. A mestizo race resulted. Spanish language, Latino-Catholicism, customs, dances, folklore, & foods arrived as well. Spanish language nearly replaced the native Chamorro language. The last of the Spanish speaking of Guam died in the 1980s, yet the Latino/Hispanic element of the culture survives.
@LatinoIsntARace So true your comment. It is ignorance of what it really means to be Latino. Already in Latin America, scholars of Latino studies and history are rediscovering and recognizing the native Chamorro people of Guam. Marianas as a Latino/hispanic culture. They label it Latin Oceania. Guam's Hispanic culture was suppressed by the USA administration since 1898 yet much of it still survives. Many native Chamorros have Mexican blood. They cook tortillas, tamales, atole, among other foods.
@LatinoIsntARace Is my black-cuban descent friend a hispanic? Is my mexican born and raised, spanish speaking, jewish friend a hispanic? Its sad that many Latin Americans dont recognize that Hispanic/Latino is not a race. Culturally speaking, the native Chamorro people, all of mestizo origin, of Guam are more Hispanic/Latino than americanized hispanics. Scholars of Latino/Hispanic studies categorize the Chamorro people of Guam/Marianas islands as an oceanic-latino culture.
@kuraku3 Yes your black cuban friend is "Hispanic" with what the word hispanic now means and also your Jewish friend.
But really you're given the word hispanic and latino to much importance.
I'm a so called "Hispanic" and "Latino" because i'm "Latin" American. But to be honest i don't give a fuck about being considered Hispanic and latino.
Most "latin" americans, and Spaniards don't know about their own history how would you expect them to know any about Guam and "Latino" Asia/ Oceanic .
@CHAM0RRITO In the native Chamorro language of Guam, of which more than 50% is of spanish origin, we use the word CHINO as well. And it means the same...Chinese. Chamorro children who may have more Asian looking eyes are teased as CHINO. Today many Asian immigrants live in Guam and the term GUAMANIAN refers to ANY resident of Guam regardless of race. But its the native Chamorro people that continue their LATINO/HISPANIC heritage despite not being commonly recognized as a LATINO/HISPANIC people.
@polychronio , Let's just say that don't really care about you or your people to want to take the time to correctly label you people. Gotta love the USA.
@ForgottenSoul700 ignorant people are proud to be ignorant. latin people give you the culture to you barbarian germanic people....you should be thankful to your master rather than choosing to be arrogant and barbaric again.... germanic English USA!!!
@polychronio FUCK racist america. im latino not WHITE not BLACK. not ASIAN. its a culture that is so strong i consider it a Race. even if your arguement is valid about latino being a race were is my Mexican box???? wtf
im an American. america does not have one set race. and does not have one set language.
@mesy103 lmao It's not a culture that is so strong, it's a trend. Not once when i was teen, did i ever here anyone using the word latino and i'm only 24.
That's why i don't consider myself latino, the only word i use to see people saying was hispano that's it. Hispano America, Latino America and Ibero-America, so the next trend might be now to say that you're Iberian, Iberico. lol
@LatinoIsntARace well latino has been used in my house hold ever since i can remember. u must not live with latinos who know who they are. if u told my abuelita she wasnt latina she would smack u. hispanic = spanairds/ //// latino = latin americans. i see no trend. u must be white washed and have lost your way, i hope u still celebrate your heritage and if you reply sayin u do i doubt it because no true latino would reject there roots. they even use latino in mexico and southamerica
@mesy103 Latino doesn't just mean latin america, Latino also means latin europe. Don't belive me google Latin Europe and latin union so you can see all the countries that are considered latino.
Europa Latina google it. Hispanic is spaniards but it's used for latin americans also. Latino is the European roots Latino comes from europe not our native or african side.
@LatinoIsntARace honestly i couldnt care less about the europeans. my family is from latin america we are latino cased closed. majority of us never viewed our selves as white so it causes anger and confusion. why only now they want us to be white? they wanna increase there number in the census. look idc about anything else i just want my stupid lil fucking box in the census and the dmv. and if they cnt even do that can they plz at least put box labeled (mexican,puretorcan,cuban,etc)
You don't care about the europeans but claim their word which is latino. It was France that included Mexicans, etc into the Latino culture. So with out france you wouldn't be considered latino at all.
@LatinoIsntARace and we speak english but it doesnt mean ur from the UK..... and i know about france and spain being an influence on my culture im not stupid... if they didnt influence us my family would be abunch of tribal people native to mexico... and the word american comes from Amerigo Vespucci the man who is said to originally landed on America. sooo buy u saying you american are u telling that ur italian (later naturalized spaniard?) dont you see it doesnt matter what it used 2 mean??
@mesy103 Americo was the name of an Italian not a historical name of the tribe who built the roman empire. You claim the same word of the people who built Rome. How can you then say you want nothing to do with europeans because you're mestizo. Then choose a word that has nothing to do with europe.
@mesy103 That's like black people in the United States said they don't give a fuck about europeans, but then claim the word anglo saxon as being theirs.
@LatinoIsntARace How do black people use that term???? anglo saxon NOWADAYS is used to refer to white people and there values. even tho it means european. todays understanding and meaning has changed as is the process of evolution. so if americans use anglo-saxon and is now accepted as white. why do you find it so difficult to understand the word latino. technically we are all anglo saxon for the fact we uphold anglo saxon values. but since latino culture has there own values. we refer to ---
@Mesy103 You find it difficult to understand that some Latino Europeans consider themselves latino . My mom friend who was born in Romania considers himself Latino and it isn't wrong for him to do so. as Romania is part of the Latin Union and the language is a romance language just like Spanish.
You keep thinking like a mexican american who thinks latino only belongs to spanish speakers.
@LatinoIsntARace --- to our selves as latino... it has grown to descirbe a culture. traditions that are our own. hell we take up a whole continent and a half. that is MUCH MORE than europe and the US. i belive we deserve our own catagory. ->Latino/hispanic<- not justt a danm sub catagory. and if you research races have small diff DNA and ours are both diff from white and black.(not tlking about the domicans or black brazilians on this one) we are more native than white
@mesy103 "i belive we deserve our own catagory." If you mean in the USA, absolutely, BUT the box they give you should be labeled "MESTIZO" for your race, not "latino/hispanic". There are white hispanics, black hispanics, etc, it wouldn't be fair to them to lump them in the same category as Mestizos, THAT is why they stopped doing that in the US Census, you can't lump a group of people of DIFFERENT races and categorize them as one race. The mixed native/white descendants are "Mestizos". PERIOD.
@lookagain77 exactly that is the problem i face. i wish i had a MESTIZO box. i wouldnt care about the term latino. but the term latino is used to describe people from latin america and a majority of us are mestizo. so to make everyone happy. we are reffered to as latino. we are our own group. so can we get a danm box that says latino? and if white or black hispanics dnt like they can check white/black. but u need 2 understand im mestizo not white and thats why im angry. i have aztec in my vein
@mesy103 "so to make everyone happy. we are reffered to as latino" That's the part I don't think you're getting, it's NOT making everyone happy because there are people that know better who have not bought into the American brainwashing system. You should be pushing for the DISSOLUTION of the term "Latino" and the implementation once and for all of the term "Mestizo" in the U.S. system, it's been in use for 500 years in the system of Latin America, why the US doesn't adopt it I don't understand.
@mesy103 That's just pitiful, so you guys are hanging to the word latino because you got nothing else? So instead of fighting to be called mestizos or some other native name. you guys just settle for the European word Latino. and pretend it isn't european because mestizos are a lot more then them. lol
Also countries that aren't mestizos are Argentina, Uruguay, Puerto Rico, The Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Brazil and maybe Chile and you get lumped with them because of the word Latino.
@mesy103 So pretty much, anyone can take a historical word and call it theirs because you outnumber the original latinos and the other latin european countries. lol To me thats being a thief.
Would be funny if latin americans claim the word celtic, because Spain also had celtic and celtic-berian tribes. so claim it and see how the irish and irish americans will react. lol
Also take every italian and Spanish tribes name as a goof, so we can see how political correct they are and if they accept.
@LatinoIsntARace well to us we call each other latino because thats what weve known. we honestly dnt care about the details because in america we are all latinos since thats how america first catagorized us. but in mexico why would they put latino in theres since it would be redundent since everyone in the country is -_-. if uve watched spanish tv channels from mexico they use 2 term latino as well. look man thats our word now. thats what every1 understands and i dnt care about the details
@mesy103 Antonio Banderas is from Spain and he considers himself latino, no body questions him on Mexican or other latin american television because they know some european countries are latino like spain.
How disgusting that now you know the historical value of the word latino and instead say it's now yours and proud of it. lmao
No wonder i can't feel any kinship with you people. A people that is proud of the word latino with out knowing why and how the word came to be.
@LatinoIsntARace i know i am proud of the word but if i say that while argueing with u ur just gunna put up sum bullshit reason why i shouldnt. its my culture, its my way of life, some are mestizo some are black, idc i veiw anyone from latin america as latino we are all brothers. im just sayin why do you have 2 fight it?? supposably your latino 2 and u fight it??. ive told u already i consider my self mestizo latino. let is be man. and ive known were latino has came from. u cnt assume what iknow
@mesy103 I don't care if you consider yourself latino and if you know you're mestizo even better. It's when you say you don't care about it's history and say fuck latin europeans it's ours now. That's when i have a problem with.
@LatinoIsntARace well thats life buddy. i know its roots but we only hold partial blood that the euros had. latino had its roots but i know them but i dnt embrace the european side for the fact that i am describing latin americans. not latin euros. can i get my danm box so i can shutup cuz i know im not white or black. if you think your wite more power 2 u but im not. when sumone atttacks the word latino its sortaof like your trying to rob me. the spaniards already destroyed and raped my
@LatinoIsntARace -- ancestors they might have brought religion but thats the only good thing about it. the euros fucked us over now im half spainard half mestizo. i consider my self latino. i rarley hear the euro say they are latino so i use that word. my orignal people have already been exterminated i just want this to acknowledge that im not white. this is actually my whole arguement IM NOT WHITE ... IM LATINO<!!!!!!
@mesy103 English people don't go around saying they're anglo saxon, so if for example india which use to be part of england, started using the word anglo to describe themselves. Its ok because the english don't use it enough? geesh then europeans are fucked because they rarely use their historical tribal names, so anyone can claim it.
@LatinoIsntARace that is completley differnt and you know it. if the spaniards only conqured mexico we are just mestizo BUUUT im describing all of latin america -_-. your india case would be valid if not for the fact indians race WASNT wiped out. (your describe ONE country, and they werent COMPLETLY destroyed. most of them dont even have white in them) every race has a small diff in genetic code and the majority of latinos that call them selves latinos have our own genetic code.
@mesy103 Not all of the so called "latinos" have the same DNA so that means that you wouldn't consider a mulatto , white or black person latino because they don't got the same mix that you got.
@LatinoIsntARace honestly i see a mulatto. i consider him the same as me. black latino i see as another member of my latinos. there is less racism amongst latinos of color for the fact we have very similar cultures and morals. say what you like but im latino. mestizo + mullatos= latinos to me
@LatinoIsntARace - we are a mixture of 2 races. we are new breed face it since theres no words ready to descfribe us we use a word that we are proud of and that us
What you mean if i fight it? I never grew up being considered latino. non of my friends ever referred themselves or me as latino. Same with my family. it's just wasn't used in that time and i'm only 24 year old. Why should i start using it now? because it's the cool thing to do now?
@LatinoIsntARace well now i understand why you fight it. put yourself in my shoes. i was raised latino. my mom and dad were 2. so was there parents. so we considered ourselfs and other latinos our iwn race. then all of a sudden theUS stopped seeing us as our own people. we no longer veiw our selves as white we are latinos.
@mesy103 The US doesn't consider you white they consider you guys brown.
Just because you're raised a certain way doesn't mean that you have to follow it. Where your parents born in the United States? If so what part and if they weren't then i don't know what part of latin american they were born that they were raised thinking that their race is latino.
@LatinoIsntARace OOOOOO naw lol i know my race is mexican (mestizo) its just a wy to clump all latin americans in. its like black describes (jamaica and africa and all other sub catagories they all dnt actually have the same blood) and same goes for whites and asians. so latino is a new catagory if u werent raised latino thats fine by me i belive you are what your raised as
@mesy103 Jamaicans and Africans have more in common DNA wise then you and me do. I'm not mestizo and my culture isn't the same as yours. All we got in common is spanish surnames and the spanish language which you might not even speak.
@mesy103 "they even use latino in mexico and southamerica" Mexico, Cuba and PR....yes (due to geographical proximity to the US) South America....not really (only in some of the Caribbeans coasts there) I am from South America, and thank god for that, because due to the geographical distance we don't really adopt a lot of American (U.S.) mannerisms like the stupid "latino" label. I like how you're calling someone "white-washed" when you yourself have been brainwashed by the American (US) culture.
@lookagain77 last time i checked majority south americans refer to them selves as latinos >.> . lol how u gunna rgue with me i have freinds straight from argintina and brazil, peru, chile,. there parents all refer to them selves as latino. i just want my roots and heritage to be acknowledged. black,white,asian,middle east,islander but no latino box or anything similar. its not even the word latino. it could be (mexican,puretorican,cuban,etc) idc i just want to be acknowldged for who i am
@mesy103 "lol how u gunna rgue with me i have freinds straight from argintina and brazil, peru, chile ,there parents all refer to them selves as latino." Are these people in the USA now? How am I gonna argue with you?? bcause I grew up there (not in US) in 4 different countries there (Argentina, Paraguay, Peru, and Chile). Most people in South America do NOT refer to themselves as "Latino", BUT we do use the word "Latinoamericano" which is NOT THE SAME THING, and is actually the CORRECT term.
If an Asian came over to me and called himself Hispanic, I'd slap the son of a bitch. The Iberian peninsula once held the name Hispaniola under the rule of the Roman Empire, that's where the term Hispanic comes from, it really did refer to those of Celt-Iberian heritage. It's in recent times that the term has been perverted to mean someone of mixed blood, regardless of bloodline.
@iSMASHn00bFACES , Actually there is only 2 seeds, the kelkekez,(african) and the Black caucasian-NegRo-man, and his extended Mixedrace, Mongoloid- caucasoid seedline.
@july95211 What about the gelketez seed, you know, the Reptilian race, from the planet Nibiru, the original seeders of planet Earth, why did you not mention them huh?? are you racist?
So true. We can't use the word "Hispanic." The former is a geographical location, the latter are pigments. We need something like "Tan" or "Brown" and it would include people from southern Greece, Italy, Spain, Northern Africa, Eastern Africa, Middle East, Mexico, Central/South America, Natives of Alaska, America, Australia, Hawaiian & Pacific Islanders, East Asia, and Southeast Asia. "Tan" or "Bronze" Americans are a huge group in a democratic system. "Asian" is wrong too.
@Hispanicsarenotarace Let me translate to you what 'sushimagushi2' meant to say: "I disagree with you because I'm a fucking moron that doesn't even know what my own race is".
Whites. Beginning in the late fifteenth century, large numbers of Iberian colonists settled in what became Latin America (Portuguese in Brazil and Spaniards elsewhere in the region), and at present most white Latin Americans are of Spanish or Portuguese origin. Iberians brought the Spanish and Portuguese languages, the Catholic faith, and many Iberian traditions. Brazil Argentina, and Mexico contain the largest numbers of whites in Latin America. Whites make up the majorities of Source Wikipedia
Whites make up the majorities of Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, and depending on source, Cuba, also.[22][29][30] Of the millions of immigrants to Latin America since most of the area gained independence in the 1810s–1820s, Italians formed the largest group, and next were Spaniards and Portuguese.[31] Source wikipedia
Mulattoes are people of mixed European and African ancestry, mostly descended from Spanish or Portuguese settlers on one side and African slaves on the other, during the colonial period. Brazil is home to Latin America's largest mulatto population. Mulattoes form a majority of population in the Dominican Republic and Cuba and are also numerous in Venezuela Panama Peru Colombia, Puerto Rico and Ecuador. Smaller populations of mulattoes are found in other Latin American countries Source Wikipedia
Actually if you look up the correct use of Mestizo it is Spanish & Indian Mix.
Mulato is Spanish & Black mix
Mestizos. Intermixing between Europeans and Amerindians began early in the colonial period and was extensive. The resulting people, known as Mestizos, make up the majority of the population in half of the countries of Latin America. Additionally, Mestizos compose large minorities in nearly all the other mainland countries. source Wikipedia type Latin America wiki in google search bar
Latin is a Lenguage that originated in Europe Italy to be precise. This is why Latinos have European traits & share similar genetic features. I guess to put it simple a Latino could go to Spain, Portugal or Italy and be mistaken for a citizen due similar features. Example Sofia Vergara She could go to Italy, Spain or Portugal and blend in quite easy. Now if Sammy Sosa or David Ortiz went they would think he is African even Rosario Dawson or Zoe Saldana would be classified as African.
Latinos came from Italy and established their presence in the Iberian peninsula. If you look at a old Roman maps they called Spain Roman Hispania If you take Italian and move around the letters you get Latin the language spoke by many of Romans territories. Romantico is derived from Roman and in English is Romance.
Latino is not a race but here in America it is. Why do I say this? Well in America you can be white or black but if you have a hispanic ethnicity you get catagorized as a hispanic. That stems from the deep racism that exists in this country mainly because latinos have some mixed ancestry usually indian or black but when you see a white person like Ricky Martin him being hispanic this racist country would label him a spic not just white thats why hispanic is a race in United States.
Latino or Hispanic is race because is a social construct and race is a social construction. If one is to day Latino/Hispanic is not a race than neither is White or Black because those are also social constructions.
What is your fucked up accent? And what it the point of doing all these stupid videos?
The media didnt create this term. Hispanic political groups banded together in order to consolidate power because the white male power structure was always trying to dominate all other groups and keep them out of the power structure.
You sound really uneducated and as if you're just making shit up as you go along. Or watching Faux News for your info. One of the two.
if this is the case then why didnt they create a terms thats used in their country to define them? funny though because there are millions of white people in latin american countries of different european heritages from north, west southern europe esp in argentine,parguay and brasil.. so it could not be against the white power structure right? now what the power structure was black now how would latin americans in this country fit in the equation?
Theres so many Hispanics now in the USA that they will become one race. And this rant about Latinos are not a race will become obsolete. The new census for the 2010 year recorded 60,000,000 Hispanic population and still growing. Hispanics will become the new race.
@asianlvr70 It's all because the word "hispanic" comes from the word "hispanola", right? that's why...hahahahaha you make me laugh too much man, but keep it going, it's like daily entertainment to see what you post each day
@asianlvr70 cap my ass??? how?? thruough the computer monitor??? hahahaha, estupido hijo de pobres ignorantes sin educacion, it's not your fault though, tus padres te criaron en la ignorancia, it's ok I understand
@lookagain77 serious dont you have a life??? all you do is stare at a computer all day uh??? Your a loser! Do You know I can get your IP address from your computer and pin point exactly where you are????
@asianlvr70 mas ignorancia! ya veo no sabes mucho de computadoras tampoco, el IP solo te sirve si tienes acceso a la base de datos de mi ISP, ademas yo estoy en una red publica con IP dinamico asi que no te sirve de nada, no sabes un carajo de nada, y como no si seguro que tus padres ni terminaron la escuela y cruzaron por el desierto para venir a EEUU a vender churros y tacos en la esquina, y asi te criaron, pero no es tu culpa, me das lastima
If the Spaniards never conquered parts of south america, central america, mexico, these words Latino and Hispanic would proably not exist. Then mexico would speak a native language. Asian is not race either how come no one brings up that fact. But whatever I like all cultures of people regardless of color or beliefs. I proud to be a Spaniard/Mexican Indian Mestizo. People hate on spanish speakers because they are proud whats wrong with that???
ReptileDude511 2 days ago
whats so funny is the name Latino..... Root word Latin. No no one has really spoken that pure latin language since the second fall of Rome. Spanish is a Latin language but not really Latin the same for Portuguese, Italian, and French. So if every one in central and south america are Latinos that would also in logic mean France Portugal and Italy are Latino Countries as well its all divide and conquer from Eurocentrics and i think we need to stop the Ignorance
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Let me tell you a secret; mixed is not a race neither.
dangar45 1 week ago
In the end We (world) are all the same, so love one another!
guard213 2 weeks ago
you hit it on the head and in every different country their might have more then one culture group just like in the USA .
mambomambo1 1 month ago
Can someone tell me if I'm a Mestizo... what race would that make me?!
HughJass370 1 month ago
@HughJass370 If you're Mestizo, that's your race, Mestizo, which means "mixed" (Just like saying "I'm of mixed race"). Except the usage of the word Mestizo inherently entails that one is referring to a specific mix, that is, Amerindian and Caucasian, REGARDLESS of the amount of contribution from each, in other words, it doesn't have to be 50/50, one could be the offspring of a Mestizo (instead of full Amerindian) and a Caucasian and still be Mestizo.
lookagain77 1 month ago
@lookagain77 So if someone asked me...Are you White...Black...Asian...or Native American... I would say White?! or white/native?
HughJass370 3 weeks ago
@HughJass370 That's entirely up to you, I would not dare tell anyone what race they should identify with. Just be aware that, since 'Race' (as used for humans) is a social construct and it is ascribed to us by the general population of the society in which we live, it's not really something that we 'chose'. Best thing to do is probably to describe your family background and let THEM decide what race you are, but do remind them that "Hispanic" and "Latino" are NOT races.
lookagain77 3 weeks ago
Pacific islanders are basically Asian southern mongoloids living on little islands in the Pacific that was once part of south east Asia but broke into little islands and drifted into the Pacific DNA genetics skull teeth facial features still mongoloid still has DNA of those like Filipino Indonesian Malaysian southern Chinese Vietnamese Cambodian and the rest of south east Asia etc
AlmightyMewtwo 2 months ago
If we Latinos were a race,we all would have been white or black,but this is not the case.Latinos come in a wide variety of skin color and features.there are some Latinos that look Asian,others look European,Indian,Mestizos,African,etc,etc.
nostalgiamelancolia1 2 months ago
Hispanics are from Spain.
1coolguysuper 2 months ago
Mexico is the most segrigated place in the world.Since back then to now even in LA Mexicans had charred a black man recently.
wTfMarkee 3 months ago
"Nuestra Cultura"?? Jajaja, no me hagan reir. Les propongo a estos Mexicanos, Centroamericanos, y Caribeños que se vayan al Cono Sur a ver si se sienten que estan en la misma "cultura". Por favor, no me digan estupideces, no hay ninguna cultura 'nuestra'. Por eso nunca ha habido una union en America Latina, cada pais tiene su propia cultura y nos odiamos unos a los otros. Eso de que somos de una misma cultura nacio en las comunidades Hispanas de EEUU y pueblos fronterizos de Mexico.
lookagain77 4 months ago
@lookagain77 True this latino Unidos crap is so fake. Most always talk behind each other. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, South Americans talking about how the city, town, etc that they are living in is now full of indios aka mexicans and central americans. While mexicans say fuck estos Negros dominicanos, Putos Puertorriquenos, etc.
The funny thing is that the South Americans who i have seen say estos Indios Centro Americanos y Bolivianos, look just like them. lol
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace Exactly, I was raised in 4 different countries in Latin America, and the first thing I noticed when moving from one to another was how different in culture each one was and how everyone would hate on the previous country I was in, specifically because of cultural differences. I LIVED IT, I'll be damned if some US-raised kids with Hispanic ancestry are gonna tell me we're all brothers and sisters and we're all a happy family and sing kumbaya...PURE BULLSHIT!
lookagain77 4 months ago
@lookagain77 Correct but some Brown Pride t shirt wearing ( even though he or she got pale white milky skin and isn't even close to being brown ) idiot que vivan los latinos Jackass, is gonna tell us that we're lying and that there is no such thing as racism in latin america. How we're all latin, latino brothers and sisters. lmao and some are stupid enough to say that they're spaniard, like some mexican american "comic" who uses the word Spaniard when talking about latin americans.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
Agreed. Demographers who help the media and mainstream politicians don't understand your valid point. They like to use simple minded generalities like "Will xxxx be able to get the Hispanic vote" -like everyone with a Hispanic background think exactly the same on every issue. I'd like to kick the tv down the stairs when I hear this nonsense.
torr59622 3 months ago
@torr59622 Yep and also on the news, when they're trying to catch a criminal they say. A "Hispanic" Male, or they'll say a white or Hispanic male. Once again turning the word hispanic into a race. If the "Hispanic male Looks white or black he can walk freely on the streets, because most people wont be looking for that type.
LatinoIsntARace 3 months ago
I have a letter drafted for the Philly Daily News that takes that issue head-on. Why arent descriptions used for suspects that are "Irish" "Jewish or "Italian-looking?". Who decided it would make sense to say a suspect was "Hispanic". wtf
torr59622 3 months ago
@torr59622 I always wondered, what possible significant statistical data could you gather from lumping a lot of people who may not even really have anything in common together? I mean, I'm a white Hispanic born and RAISED in South America that came to the USA almost as an adult, what could I possibly have in common with some Mestizo guy born and raised in the United States? Nothing! Not even culturally speaking! He wasn't raised in MY culture, why lump me and him in the same 'group'?
lookagain77 3 months ago
@lookagain77 My theory-there is voting power in classifying as many people as possible as "non-white" or "other". It backfires though. Last week I read an article that Perry will do well "with Hispanics" due to his immigration-friendly stance. What if you are Puerto Rican and could care less about immigration in Texas? Cuban-Americans dont care either. Of 50 mill hispanics, only 33 mi are voting age. Less than 1/2 vote. The media thinks all 16 million vote the same way-or hopes they do.
torr59622 3 months ago
why are blacks considered blacks anyways if they too have white in them...all of them unless they are african. White man have always raped their women. Let's call them what they are Mulattos then.
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies I call them mulatto, not black. In the United States though, anyone with black ancestry is considered black no matter if he or she looks mostly white.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace Ok heres the funny part, the hispanic ethnic group in the USA is pushed to calling black people moreno, when they are not! indians are morenos, it's a skin tone of redish brown or mexican looking brown if you know what i mean. Blacks we call them negros, but if they overhear they will try to beat up whoever said it even if it was an old lady. It is not wrong when are speaking spanish to call them negros. I guess what im trying to see everything is relative...
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies Yeah Moreno is a political correct way of saying negro without "offending".
But those same people who get offended by being called negro are the first to say that such and such person is negro.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
Latino is not a race but we are a power....and your goverment knows it....btw most of those latinos are amerindians...natives...indians whatever you wanna call it...but then ur gonna have to explain all the white people why these people aren't immigrants to the americas at all...its more convinient to have us as the foreigners :)
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies You're so proud of your native roots that you keep calling yourself latino. lol
Keep calling Spain the mother land and while your at it Italy also. Might as well also bow down to Portugal, France and Romania.
The excuse i always see people posting on youtube is, *well latino means something else now, so it's alright to use it. now* excuses my native american european culture worshiping idiots.
If you had any native pride you would never consider yourselves Latino and Hispanic.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace who ever said i call spain the mother land? or call myself latino? Get this through your white mutt head I am a decendent of the Mexica/Mechica/Aztec tribe. Don't hate cuz we as a latin american group decided to band ourselves together =) or because people from India are actually caucasian...oh btw while you all are kissing englands ass, we dont call spain the mother land as a matter of fact we call them names you dont wanna know
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies Really a mestizo like you callling me a mutt? LMAO
Funny how all you idiots keep calling yourselves aztec without knowing if you're actually a descendent of the tribes who helped the Spanish Conquistadors to overthrow the Aztec Empire.
Also i'm "Latin" American and i know that Indians are caucasian what you thought that would get to me? lol You Assumed that i'm a White racist who only thinks Europeans are caucasians.
And yes Latin Americans do call Spain the Mother land.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace I don't call spain motherland...sumtimes i do a russian accent and call russia the motherland but that's to fuck with people the mexicans i know dont, the salvadorians i know dont, anyone who is raised outside the us doesnt!! we call them gachupines, like and my family comes technotitlan...aka mexico city...btw the aztecs wasnt just one tribe...so yo know...
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies Well then if all the people you know don't then that's good.
But most do especially the ones born in latin america.
You must have never watched Spanish speaking television because they clearly say that Spain is the motherland. Now of course most of the ones on tv are white latin americans, but even the non whites say it too.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace and yes american are mutts and sometimes even mestizos as well, most americans i know have some native in them...which is quite funny actually...hating on latinos when they are technically the same things rofl
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
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lookagain77 4 months ago 2
@lookagain77 Y tu que quieres que te explique? Y en nuestra cultura Americanos son todos los que nacen en el continente de America. Los que nacen en el USA so estadounidenses
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
@kitzenmovies "Americanos son todos los que nacen en el continente de America" Si, pero no todos los que nacen en el continente de America son Hispanos.....
lookagain77 4 months ago
ATTENTION: If you are the offspring of Hispanic immigrants and you were raised in the United States, I implore you, please go live for at least a full year in Latin America (short-stay visits DO NOT count), maybe 2 or 3 years, the more the better. You will realize how wrong you were about a great many things concerning your own ethnicity and how people over there think VERY differently than you and your fellow Americanized "Hispanics/Latinos".
lookagain77 4 months ago
@lookagain77 been there for longer than 3 mere years, how do you know im not there? just because I know english doesnt mean Im in the usa
kitzenmovies 4 months ago
latin people are from italy hispanics are from spain
bablyonbk 5 months ago
So what really constitutes a race? LOOKING DIFFERENT constitutes a race. if we just went off of ancestry, then we would consider everybody around today African. we make the distinction between races because of looks, and we Hispanics don't look black, white, or asian. not including Hispanic as a race on the census is misinforming and doesn't give people an accurate picture in their mind.
juke521 5 months ago
@juke521 The problem is, the race you are referring to as "Hispanic" is actually called MESTIZO. It's been called that for the last 500 years in Latin America. The word "Hispanic" does not denote 'race' (look it up in the dictionary) and using it as such is what creates misinformation. The whites and blacks from Spanish-speaking countries deserve to be recognized as being Hispanics, how can you do that if you usurp the word to refer to ONLY Mestizos with it? I am white, and I AM HISPANIC.
lookagain77 5 months ago
@juke521 Wrong, you got mental problems if you think we all look alike to be considered a single race. A lot of "Hispanics" do look and are White, Black and Native American. Turning the word hispanic, latin, latino into a race is very misinforming and racist.
Seems like you don't watch Latin American tv shows, News and interact with latin americans for you to be saying that we "all" don't look White, Black, Native American/ Ameri-indian and asian.
LatinoIsntARace 5 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace Most of us are dark with black or brown hair and even those who are lighter consider themselves separate from other races. I myself look more Spaniard than Indian, but my father is one of the darker hispanics and my mother just happens to be lighter. regardless, we all consider ourselves different from other groups of people. "Hispanic" should only be used for Mestizos or their children, not blacks who are BLACK, whites who are WHITE, or asians who are ASIAN.
juke521 5 months ago
@juke521 Mestizo should be the word. Hispanic should only be for people from Spain. But i don't care who uses it. As long as they don't use it as if the word hispanic is a race because it's not.
What's the point of the word mestizo if the mestizos themselves don't even use it.
LatinoIsntARace 5 months ago
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DaBigSun 5 months ago
It's sad that the (American-born and raised) children of Hispanic immigrants have become the number one source of misinformation regarding the nature of their own race and ethnicity. At first it was just the government (starting with the Nixon administration) and the media, but in the last 30 years or so it's been these American-born children that have perpetuated the misinformation. What a shame. Ironically, they always speak of being proud of their rich history. Well, shit, learn some of it!!!
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 I am wondering if americans learn roman history in their school.... if they learn roman and latin history, they would not be confused..... I think all countries have seperate class for roman history...
polychronio 6 months ago
wtf? latino and hispanic(hispania) is reffered to romans....it's not about race but tribe.... and that tribe of roman's race is european..... latin is white race.... hispanic(hispanico) is reffered to spaniard people.....central and south americans are descendant of latin....just because central and south americans are descendant of latin dont mean US people can change the original meaning. US is dumb country... they use wrong usage of terms and are very ignorant...The US should educate people!
polychronio 6 months ago 5
@TwinBullet If that was your point, then I fail to see how I missed it. A black person with Anglo-Saxon heritage is about the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard, of course you have to be Anglo Saxon to claim Anglo Saxon culture as a rightful heritage, I'm surprised that's even a question. Cultural assimilation does not equal heritage by the way.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@TwinBullet We all have our own ancestral (read: Racial) heritage, my hypothetical Asian simply doesn't have the right to identify with a culture his ancestors had nothing to do with. Spanish and Hispanic are interchangeable terms, they describe the same race of people. Only those with the blood of Hispania (last post was a mistake) in them can claim Spanish (Hispanic) culture. Cultural heritage is not a free-for-all that anybody can claim, that is the perverse notion of multi-culturalism.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 Words change or get ADDED meanings over time, get over it. The word "Hispano" in the Spanish lexicon OFFICIALLY changed (and added to) its meaning when the RAE (Real Academia Española), the ultimate authority on the Spanish language (located in Spain) changed it for the first time in the mid-to-late 1800's. The word underwent even further changes throughout the early 1900's as well. Wanna blame somebody for OFFICIALLY corrupting the word?? Blame the Spaniards at the RAE.
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 Believe me, I do.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 Good for you, but using an archaic and no-longer existent meaning of the word to support your arguments is ridiculous. What's next? We're going to argue about how a homosexual person who is not in a "happy" mood cannot call him/herself "gay"??? Give me a fucking break....Whether the official change in the meaning of the word was a good idea or not, the change has already taken place...a hundred years ago! Get over it. So try to make your arguments using the CURRENT definitions.
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 Archaic meaning yes, but non-existent? To me THAT is ridiculous. Regardless of the use a certain word has received in a society, the "science" of the word remains the same. Demon still describes a "guardian spirit", angel still means "messenger", gay still means "happy", and Hispanic still means someone of Spanish blood, and there's no reason to feel those words shouldn't be used for their original meaning. This subject of meanings was never the point I wanted to make, however.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 "Hispanic still means someone of Spanish blood" I don't think so buddy, it can refer to a Spaniard, yes, but a mulatto can be a Spaniard. Don't believe me, look up the definition of SPANIARD in English AND in Spanish, race and heritage are NOT a requirement to fit that definition, it USED to be a 100 years ago, but NO LONGER as I've said. Have you ever heard of SOPHISTRY?? That is what you're doing, I can spot Sophistry a mile away and will expose every error in your logic.
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 I'm sure you feel you can spot many things, but from what I've seen, those who challenge by claiming to have "SOME SERIOUS FUCKING LOGIC", mostly turn out the tamest and most sheep-like of thinkers.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 "Asian simply doesn't have the right to identify with a culture his ancestors had nothing to do with" Here, having "the right" mainly depends on the DEFINITION of the word CULTURE. Yes? So we ARE talking Semantics here, and the definition of the word "Culture" does NOT require nor imply that a person have his ancestors be part of the culture being claimed. You can't just give words your own definitions and expect to correctly use them within the already established lexicon. Absurd!
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 The term "Culture" (using Semantics) has 164 legitimate uses, and knowing that I thought the context of my post made it clear what I meant. Someone who experiments with and cherishes different cultures that he sees is a cultural person, for example, but that has nothing to do with Heritage. A person can assimilate with a people and their culture, but they can't claim it as HERITAGE, because they're of a different race therefore-
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 - different ancestry, relatively speaking of course, since the species itself comes from the same place, but you know what I mean.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 If one of the many "legitimate uses" for the word 'culture' justifies your statement about an Asian not having the right to identify with the Hispanic Culture, then I assure you one of those oh-so-many "legitimate uses" justifies them to do so. But if you already knew this then...didn't you already know that when an Asian claims to be Hispanic they're simply using one of the "164 legitimate uses" where they are actually given the right to claim to be Hispanic??
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 Didn't I make it clear in the post? I meant that the Semantics of the term "Culture" give it around 164 appropriate uses, you make it sound as if I was only using a figure of speech. The same doesn't go with Hispanic, anyone can practice whatever they want, but someone walking around calling himself Hispanic is implying more than that and you know it. It's like if I were to start calling myself Nordic, the idea that I can call myself that if I wanted to is-
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 - an apalling ideal that can only have the doctrine of multi-culturalism at it's core. That kind of crap only destroys any sliver of uniqueness we have as a people in these times.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 "someone walking around calling himself Hispanic is implying more than that and you know it", Have you thought that maybe YOU are the one implying something they did not when you hear an Asian calling himself a Hispanic? I've noticed in most of your comments there many 'implications' and 'assumptions' being made so it only makes sense that this is your Modus Operandi. I'm not interested in 'implications', only in the correct usage of words according to their current definitions.
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 Well, that's the problem, "current definitions" do not necessarily equal correct usage.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 Are you saying the current definitions are not 'correct'??
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 I mean, current uses that many words or terms have today aren't NECESSARILY the correct meanings. Haven't I made my stance on this clear enough after so many posts?
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 But that's the same stance that SUPPORTS my stance (and most everyone else's on here) that people are wrongly using the word "Hispanic" as a race when it actually means something unrelated to race to where even an Asian could rightfully use it!!!! So no, your stance is NOT clear!! If an Asian in, say, Peru, calls himself a Hispanic he is referring to something else than the actual meaning of the word then?? But what?? Race?? I doubt it! That word is not used like that over there!!
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 The term Hispanic is a word that refers to only one type of people: the Iberian people (and their descendants of course). I am for the LITERAL definitions of words, you are (apparently) for CULTURAL definitions, those are not the same stances.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 I see, so now there are two types of definitions for the word "Hispanic", Literal and Cultural. Nice. You know, at first I thought you were just an amateur Sophist, but now I realize you're a master at it, I gotta hand it to you. Good work, you've created an entire semantic system that within itself is completely logical (which is hard to accomplish usually). Too bad it's not the system that's in current existence in reality.
lookagain77 6 months ago
@lookagain77 I didn't create anything, it's just out there, how I chose to put it is simply irrelevant.
Time2Keeper1 6 months ago
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DaBigSun 5 months ago
@TwinBullet lol Yeah but sadly i don't think people would fight, as Obama would've been seen as just "Hispanic". no mention of black or white.
Fucked up how just a surname and being born in certain countries can make people see you different.
I just hope if the United States ever has an "Hispanic" president that it would be a blonde hair, blue eyed, pale white skin hispanic or a Really dark black "hispanic" just to see how people will react.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
I don't know, i mean i've seen people post how Anderson Silva isn't black because he's from Brazil.
So if Obama would've had a Spanish surname he would've been seen as the first Hispanic/ Latino president in the United States instead of the first black president.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
@TwinBullet Yep as the first interracial couple. In those days he was seen as "Latin" and thats it.
They wanted her to do the show with somebody else and not her husband.
But she told them if she couldn't do the show with him then she wouldn't do it at all.
I think if mexicans and other Latin americans didn't migrate to the United States cubans would've been seen as white people in the United States by now.
Just like how Jews are treated as white Especially in the East Coast.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
@TwinBullet I agree that mostly the white ones know.
Even the Argentines with Italian Surnames don't get treated as white in the United States.
Same with the white Cubans in miami. They get treated as brown people.
That's why being white in the United States is a joke.
Desi Arnaz was a white cuban, but people keep saying how Lucy and Desi were the first interracial couple on television.
If he looked like George Lopez or Sammy Sosa their would had never been a show called I love Lucy.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
@TwinBullet Thing is most "latin" americans don't know wtf is their race.
So those L americans can't say the same as you, as most think their race is latino and hispanic.
So they would say, My culture is AngloSaxon and my race is Latino, Latina, Latin, Hispanic, Hispano, Hispana, Spanish and Spaniard.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
@TwinBullet Black people in the United States and England should start referring to them selfs as Anglo Saxon. Lets see how that turns out.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
For nearly 4 centuries the Spanish ruled the island of GUAM. Spaniards & Mexicans arriving to the island as part of the Acapulco-Manila Galleon trade route, intermarried with the native Chamorro people. A mestizo race resulted. Spanish language, Latino-Catholicism, customs, dances, folklore, & foods arrived as well. Spanish language nearly replaced the native Chamorro language. The last of the Spanish speaking of Guam died in the 1980s, yet the Latino/Hispanic element of the culture survives.
CHAM0RRITO 6 months ago
@CHAM0RRITO Yep but the United States and "Latin" Americans would never consider Guam Hispanic nor Latino.
Instead they would call people from Guam Chino and Chinito which means Chinese.
LatinoIsntARace 6 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace So true your comment. It is ignorance of what it really means to be Latino. Already in Latin America, scholars of Latino studies and history are rediscovering and recognizing the native Chamorro people of Guam. Marianas as a Latino/hispanic culture. They label it Latin Oceania. Guam's Hispanic culture was suppressed by the USA administration since 1898 yet much of it still survives. Many native Chamorros have Mexican blood. They cook tortillas, tamales, atole, among other foods.
CHAM0RRITO 6 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace Is my black-cuban descent friend a hispanic? Is my mexican born and raised, spanish speaking, jewish friend a hispanic? Its sad that many Latin Americans dont recognize that Hispanic/Latino is not a race. Culturally speaking, the native Chamorro people, all of mestizo origin, of Guam are more Hispanic/Latino than americanized hispanics. Scholars of Latino/Hispanic studies categorize the Chamorro people of Guam/Marianas islands as an oceanic-latino culture.
kuraku3 5 months ago
@kuraku3 Yes your black cuban friend is "Hispanic" with what the word hispanic now means and also your Jewish friend.
But really you're given the word hispanic and latino to much importance.
I'm a so called "Hispanic" and "Latino" because i'm "Latin" American. But to be honest i don't give a fuck about being considered Hispanic and latino.
Most "latin" americans, and Spaniards don't know about their own history how would you expect them to know any about Guam and "Latino" Asia/ Oceanic .
LatinoIsntARace 5 months ago
@CHAM0RRITO In the native Chamorro language of Guam, of which more than 50% is of spanish origin, we use the word CHINO as well. And it means the same...Chinese. Chamorro children who may have more Asian looking eyes are teased as CHINO. Today many Asian immigrants live in Guam and the term GUAMANIAN refers to ANY resident of Guam regardless of race. But its the native Chamorro people that continue their LATINO/HISPANIC heritage despite not being commonly recognized as a LATINO/HISPANIC people.
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polychronio 6 months ago
@polychronio , Let's just say that don't really care about you or your people to want to take the time to correctly label you people. Gotta love the USA.
ForgottenSoul700 6 months ago
@ForgottenSoul700 ignorant people are proud to be ignorant. latin people give you the culture to you barbarian germanic people....you should be thankful to your master rather than choosing to be arrogant and barbaric again.... germanic English USA!!!
polychronio 6 months ago
@polychronio, You people are not Latin.
ForgottenSoul700 6 months ago
@polychronio you deluded fuck he's not hitler is austria not german for your information you slowhead
247SexyBoy 5 months ago
@polychronio FUCK racist america. im latino not WHITE not BLACK. not ASIAN. its a culture that is so strong i consider it a Race. even if your arguement is valid about latino being a race were is my Mexican box???? wtf
im an American. america does not have one set race. and does not have one set language.
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 lmao It's not a culture that is so strong, it's a trend. Not once when i was teen, did i ever here anyone using the word latino and i'm only 24.
That's why i don't consider myself latino, the only word i use to see people saying was hispano that's it. Hispano America, Latino America and Ibero-America, so the next trend might be now to say that you're Iberian, Iberico. lol
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace well latino has been used in my house hold ever since i can remember. u must not live with latinos who know who they are. if u told my abuelita she wasnt latina she would smack u. hispanic = spanairds/ //// latino = latin americans. i see no trend. u must be white washed and have lost your way, i hope u still celebrate your heritage and if you reply sayin u do i doubt it because no true latino would reject there roots. they even use latino in mexico and southamerica
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Latino doesn't just mean latin america, Latino also means latin europe. Don't belive me google Latin Europe and latin union so you can see all the countries that are considered latino.
Europa Latina google it. Hispanic is spaniards but it's used for latin americans also. Latino is the European roots Latino comes from europe not our native or african side.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace honestly i couldnt care less about the europeans. my family is from latin america we are latino cased closed. majority of us never viewed our selves as white so it causes anger and confusion. why only now they want us to be white? they wanna increase there number in the census. look idc about anything else i just want my stupid lil fucking box in the census and the dmv. and if they cnt even do that can they plz at least put box labeled (mexican,puretorcan,cuban,etc)
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Latino was the Italian tribe that formed the Roman Empire and spoke latin.
Italy ( Original Latinos ), Spain, Portugal, France and Romania are Latino Europeans. So the word LATINO has european roots.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
You don't care about the europeans but claim their word which is latino. It was France that included Mexicans, etc into the Latino culture. So with out france you wouldn't be considered latino at all.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace and we speak english but it doesnt mean ur from the UK..... and i know about france and spain being an influence on my culture im not stupid... if they didnt influence us my family would be abunch of tribal people native to mexico... and the word american comes from Amerigo Vespucci the man who is said to originally landed on America. sooo buy u saying you american are u telling that ur italian (later naturalized spaniard?) dont you see it doesnt matter what it used 2 mean??
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Americo was the name of an Italian not a historical name of the tribe who built the roman empire. You claim the same word of the people who built Rome. How can you then say you want nothing to do with europeans because you're mestizo. Then choose a word that has nothing to do with europe.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@mesy103 That's like black people in the United States said they don't give a fuck about europeans, but then claim the word anglo saxon as being theirs.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace How do black people use that term???? anglo saxon NOWADAYS is used to refer to white people and there values. even tho it means european. todays understanding and meaning has changed as is the process of evolution. so if americans use anglo-saxon and is now accepted as white. why do you find it so difficult to understand the word latino. technically we are all anglo saxon for the fact we uphold anglo saxon values. but since latino culture has there own values. we refer to ---
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Oh and Cuba isn't mestizo either. Also the United States is considered an Anglo country. So you can say you're anglo also. lol
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@Mesy103 You find it difficult to understand that some Latino Europeans consider themselves latino . My mom friend who was born in Romania considers himself Latino and it isn't wrong for him to do so. as Romania is part of the Latin Union and the language is a romance language just like Spanish.
You keep thinking like a mexican american who thinks latino only belongs to spanish speakers.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace --- to our selves as latino... it has grown to descirbe a culture. traditions that are our own. hell we take up a whole continent and a half. that is MUCH MORE than europe and the US. i belive we deserve our own catagory. ->Latino/hispanic<- not justt a danm sub catagory. and if you research races have small diff DNA and ours are both diff from white and black.(not tlking about the domicans or black brazilians on this one) we are more native than white
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 "i belive we deserve our own catagory." If you mean in the USA, absolutely, BUT the box they give you should be labeled "MESTIZO" for your race, not "latino/hispanic". There are white hispanics, black hispanics, etc, it wouldn't be fair to them to lump them in the same category as Mestizos, THAT is why they stopped doing that in the US Census, you can't lump a group of people of DIFFERENT races and categorize them as one race. The mixed native/white descendants are "Mestizos". PERIOD.
lookagain77 4 months ago
@lookagain77 exactly that is the problem i face. i wish i had a MESTIZO box. i wouldnt care about the term latino. but the term latino is used to describe people from latin america and a majority of us are mestizo. so to make everyone happy. we are reffered to as latino. we are our own group. so can we get a danm box that says latino? and if white or black hispanics dnt like they can check white/black. but u need 2 understand im mestizo not white and thats why im angry. i have aztec in my vein
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 "so to make everyone happy. we are reffered to as latino" That's the part I don't think you're getting, it's NOT making everyone happy because there are people that know better who have not bought into the American brainwashing system. You should be pushing for the DISSOLUTION of the term "Latino" and the implementation once and for all of the term "Mestizo" in the U.S. system, it's been in use for 500 years in the system of Latin America, why the US doesn't adopt it I don't understand.
lookagain77 4 months ago
@mesy103 That's just pitiful, so you guys are hanging to the word latino because you got nothing else? So instead of fighting to be called mestizos or some other native name. you guys just settle for the European word Latino. and pretend it isn't european because mestizos are a lot more then them. lol
Also countries that aren't mestizos are Argentina, Uruguay, Puerto Rico, The Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Brazil and maybe Chile and you get lumped with them because of the word Latino.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@mesy103 So pretty much, anyone can take a historical word and call it theirs because you outnumber the original latinos and the other latin european countries. lol To me thats being a thief.
Would be funny if latin americans claim the word celtic, because Spain also had celtic and celtic-berian tribes. so claim it and see how the irish and irish americans will react. lol
Also take every italian and Spanish tribes name as a goof, so we can see how political correct they are and if they accept.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace well to us we call each other latino because thats what weve known. we honestly dnt care about the details because in america we are all latinos since thats how america first catagorized us. but in mexico why would they put latino in theres since it would be redundent since everyone in the country is -_-. if uve watched spanish tv channels from mexico they use 2 term latino as well. look man thats our word now. thats what every1 understands and i dnt care about the details
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Antonio Banderas is from Spain and he considers himself latino, no body questions him on Mexican or other latin american television because they know some european countries are latino like spain.
How disgusting that now you know the historical value of the word latino and instead say it's now yours and proud of it. lmao
No wonder i can't feel any kinship with you people. A people that is proud of the word latino with out knowing why and how the word came to be.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace i know i am proud of the word but if i say that while argueing with u ur just gunna put up sum bullshit reason why i shouldnt. its my culture, its my way of life, some are mestizo some are black, idc i veiw anyone from latin america as latino we are all brothers. im just sayin why do you have 2 fight it?? supposably your latino 2 and u fight it??. ive told u already i consider my self mestizo latino. let is be man. and ive known were latino has came from. u cnt assume what iknow
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 I don't care if you consider yourself latino and if you know you're mestizo even better. It's when you say you don't care about it's history and say fuck latin europeans it's ours now. That's when i have a problem with.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace well thats life buddy. i know its roots but we only hold partial blood that the euros had. latino had its roots but i know them but i dnt embrace the european side for the fact that i am describing latin americans. not latin euros. can i get my danm box so i can shutup cuz i know im not white or black. if you think your wite more power 2 u but im not. when sumone atttacks the word latino its sortaof like your trying to rob me. the spaniards already destroyed and raped my
mesy103 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace -- ancestors they might have brought religion but thats the only good thing about it. the euros fucked us over now im half spainard half mestizo. i consider my self latino. i rarley hear the euro say they are latino so i use that word. my orignal people have already been exterminated i just want this to acknowledge that im not white. this is actually my whole arguement IM NOT WHITE ... IM LATINO<!!!!!!
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 English people don't go around saying they're anglo saxon, so if for example india which use to be part of england, started using the word anglo to describe themselves. Its ok because the english don't use it enough? geesh then europeans are fucked because they rarely use their historical tribal names, so anyone can claim it.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace that is completley differnt and you know it. if the spaniards only conqured mexico we are just mestizo BUUUT im describing all of latin america -_-. your india case would be valid if not for the fact indians race WASNT wiped out. (your describe ONE country, and they werent COMPLETLY destroyed. most of them dont even have white in them) every race has a small diff in genetic code and the majority of latinos that call them selves latinos have our own genetic code.
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Not all of the so called "latinos" have the same DNA so that means that you wouldn't consider a mulatto , white or black person latino because they don't got the same mix that you got.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace honestly i see a mulatto. i consider him the same as me. black latino i see as another member of my latinos. there is less racism amongst latinos of color for the fact we have very similar cultures and morals. say what you like but im latino. mestizo + mullatos= latinos to me
mesy103 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace - we are a mixture of 2 races. we are new breed face it since theres no words ready to descfribe us we use a word that we are proud of and that us
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Yes there is it's called mestizo. Latino doesn't mean the mix of a white and native person. It's mestizo
It's the people who let others know what race they are, you don't let the United States and stupid governments choose a word for you.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
What you mean if i fight it? I never grew up being considered latino. non of my friends ever referred themselves or me as latino. Same with my family. it's just wasn't used in that time and i'm only 24 year old. Why should i start using it now? because it's the cool thing to do now?
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace well now i understand why you fight it. put yourself in my shoes. i was raised latino. my mom and dad were 2. so was there parents. so we considered ourselfs and other latinos our iwn race. then all of a sudden theUS stopped seeing us as our own people. we no longer veiw our selves as white we are latinos.
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 The US doesn't consider you white they consider you guys brown.
Just because you're raised a certain way doesn't mean that you have to follow it. Where your parents born in the United States? If so what part and if they weren't then i don't know what part of latin american they were born that they were raised thinking that their race is latino.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace OOOOOO naw lol i know my race is mexican (mestizo) its just a wy to clump all latin americans in. its like black describes (jamaica and africa and all other sub catagories they all dnt actually have the same blood) and same goes for whites and asians. so latino is a new catagory if u werent raised latino thats fine by me i belive you are what your raised as
mesy103 4 months ago
@mesy103 Jamaicans and Africans have more in common DNA wise then you and me do. I'm not mestizo and my culture isn't the same as yours. All we got in common is spanish surnames and the spanish language which you might not even speak.
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@LatinoIsntARace i can speak read and write spanish but yea lol i just want my box or at least sumtin that says brown or watever lol
mesy103 4 months ago
I meant to say you and i lol
LatinoIsntARace 4 months ago
@mesy103 "they even use latino in mexico and southamerica" Mexico, Cuba and PR....yes (due to geographical proximity to the US) South America....not really (only in some of the Caribbeans coasts there) I am from South America, and thank god for that, because due to the geographical distance we don't really adopt a lot of American (U.S.) mannerisms like the stupid "latino" label. I like how you're calling someone "white-washed" when you yourself have been brainwashed by the American (US) culture.
lookagain77 4 months ago
@lookagain77 last time i checked majority south americans refer to them selves as latinos >.> . lol how u gunna rgue with me i have freinds straight from argintina and brazil, peru, chile,. there parents all refer to them selves as latino. i just want my roots and heritage to be acknowledged. black,white,asian,middle east,islander but no latino box or anything similar. its not even the word latino. it could be (mexican,puretorican,cuban,etc) idc i just want to be acknowldged for who i am
mesy103 4 months ago
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@mesy103 "lol how u gunna rgue with me i have freinds straight from argintina and brazil, peru, chile ,there parents all refer to them selves as latino." Are these people in the USA now? How am I gonna argue with you?? bcause I grew up there (not in US) in 4 different countries there (Argentina, Paraguay, Peru, and Chile). Most people in South America do NOT refer to themselves as "Latino", BUT we do use the word "Latinoamericano" which is NOT THE SAME THING, and is actually the CORRECT term.
lookagain77 4 months ago
latino is not a race nor will it ever be one like middle eeasterns
edwardd668 7 months ago
If an Asian came over to me and called himself Hispanic, I'd slap the son of a bitch. The Iberian peninsula once held the name Hispaniola under the rule of the Roman Empire, that's where the term Hispanic comes from, it really did refer to those of Celt-Iberian heritage. It's in recent times that the term has been perverted to mean someone of mixed blood, regardless of bloodline.
Time2Keeper1 7 months ago
@Time2Keeper1 It's not Hispaniola, it's Hispania, I misspelled.
Time2Keeper1 7 months ago
there are so many races out there and we may cannot name em all.
SpeakMyMind500 7 months ago
@SpeakMyMind500 Actually, there are only four.
sphrkilo 6 months ago
its only 3 real races...negroids, mongoloids and cockasians
iSMASHn00bFACES 8 months ago
@iSMASHn00bFACES , Actually there is only 2 seeds, the kelkekez,(african) and the Black caucasian-NegRo-man, and his extended Mixedrace, Mongoloid- caucasoid seedline.
july95211 7 months ago
@july95211 What about the gelketez seed, you know, the Reptilian race, from the planet Nibiru, the original seeders of planet Earth, why did you not mention them huh?? are you racist?
lookagain77 7 months ago
"Hispanic" in relation to "Black" and "White" that is.
brooss 8 months ago
So true. We can't use the word "Hispanic." The former is a geographical location, the latter are pigments. We need something like "Tan" or "Brown" and it would include people from southern Greece, Italy, Spain, Northern Africa, Eastern Africa, Middle East, Mexico, Central/South America, Natives of Alaska, America, Australia, Hawaiian & Pacific Islanders, East Asia, and Southeast Asia. "Tan" or "Bronze" Americans are a huge group in a democratic system. "Asian" is wrong too.
brooss 8 months ago
mexicans are not a race there a game animal a test race a pest.
blakesblack 8 months ago
@Hispanicsarenotarace Let me translate to you what 'sushimagushi2' meant to say: "I disagree with you because I'm a fucking moron that doesn't even know what my own race is".
lookagain77 8 months ago
yes we mix whether white brown black we all mix
carmen3205 8 months ago
Whites. Beginning in the late fifteenth century, large numbers of Iberian colonists settled in what became Latin America (Portuguese in Brazil and Spaniards elsewhere in the region), and at present most white Latin Americans are of Spanish or Portuguese origin. Iberians brought the Spanish and Portuguese languages, the Catholic faith, and many Iberian traditions. Brazil Argentina, and Mexico contain the largest numbers of whites in Latin America. Whites make up the majorities of Source Wikipedia
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
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Whites make up the majorities of Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, and depending on source, Cuba, also.[22][29][30] Of the millions of immigrants to Latin America since most of the area gained independence in the 1810s–1820s, Italians formed the largest group, and next were Spaniards and Portuguese.[31] Source wikipedia
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
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sportsmarvel 8 months ago
Mulattoes are people of mixed European and African ancestry, mostly descended from Spanish or Portuguese settlers on one side and African slaves on the other, during the colonial period. Brazil is home to Latin America's largest mulatto population. Mulattoes form a majority of population in the Dominican Republic and Cuba and are also numerous in Venezuela Panama Peru Colombia, Puerto Rico and Ecuador. Smaller populations of mulattoes are found in other Latin American countries Source Wikipedia
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
Actually if you look up the correct use of Mestizo it is Spanish & Indian Mix.
Mulato is Spanish & Black mix
Mestizos. Intermixing between Europeans and Amerindians began early in the colonial period and was extensive. The resulting people, known as Mestizos, make up the majority of the population in half of the countries of Latin America. Additionally, Mestizos compose large minorities in nearly all the other mainland countries. source Wikipedia type Latin America wiki in google search bar
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
HISPANIC IS A FUCKING RACE U FUCKING RACIST ASSHOLE IM HISPANIC AND IM MESTIZO CUBAN
sushimagushi2 8 months ago
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Latin is a Lenguage that originated in Europe Italy to be precise. This is why Latinos have European traits & share similar genetic features. I guess to put it simple a Latino could go to Spain, Portugal or Italy and be mistaken for a citizen due similar features. Example Sofia Vergara She could go to Italy, Spain or Portugal and blend in quite easy. Now if Sammy Sosa or David Ortiz went they would think he is African even Rosario Dawson or Zoe Saldana would be classified as African.
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
Latinos came from Italy and established their presence in the Iberian peninsula. If you look at a old Roman maps they called Spain Roman Hispania If you take Italian and move around the letters you get Latin the language spoke by many of Romans territories. Romantico is derived from Roman and in English is Romance.
sportsmarvel 8 months ago
Latino is not a race but here in America it is. Why do I say this? Well in America you can be white or black but if you have a hispanic ethnicity you get catagorized as a hispanic. That stems from the deep racism that exists in this country mainly because latinos have some mixed ancestry usually indian or black but when you see a white person like Ricky Martin him being hispanic this racist country would label him a spic not just white thats why hispanic is a race in United States.
ciphagreen 8 months ago
Latino or Hispanic is race because is a social construct and race is a social construction. If one is to day Latino/Hispanic is not a race than neither is White or Black because those are also social constructions.
rockerbabi2006 9 months ago
Latinos are from Spain, Italia and Portugal. The "latin" is not a race, latinos are not the brown people in the American television.
NokturnoCulto88 9 months ago
@diamondlolz Is a lenguage overall.
NokturnoCulto88 9 months ago
Hispanic people are mostly caucasion. There is only three races of the world, Caucasion, Mongolian and black
stephenabm 9 months ago
@stephenabm You are right.
NokturnoCulto88 9 months ago
What is your fucked up accent? And what it the point of doing all these stupid videos?
The media didnt create this term. Hispanic political groups banded together in order to consolidate power because the white male power structure was always trying to dominate all other groups and keep them out of the power structure.
You sound really uneducated and as if you're just making shit up as you go along. Or watching Faux News for your info. One of the two.
Pathetic
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@MrTruthAddict
if this is the case then why didnt they create a terms thats used in their country to define them? funny though because there are millions of white people in latin american countries of different european heritages from north, west southern europe esp in argentine,parguay and brasil.. so it could not be against the white power structure right? now what the power structure was black now how would latin americans in this country fit in the equation?
celph414 9 months ago
And, didn't you hear evidently they are not being known as hispanics any longer. That's what I got told.
1986Belladonna 10 months ago
Hispanic isn't a race either Fuck >:| Hispanic= those impacted by Spain. Not a race, never was!!
1986Belladonna 10 months ago
Theres so many Hispanics now in the USA that they will become one race. And this rant about Latinos are not a race will become obsolete. The new census for the 2010 year recorded 60,000,000 Hispanic population and still growing. Hispanics will become the new race.
asianlvr70 10 months ago
@asianlvr70 It's all because the word "hispanic" comes from the word "hispanola", right? that's why...hahahahaha you make me laugh too much man, but keep it going, it's like daily entertainment to see what you post each day
lookagain77 10 months ago
@lookagain77 hey get a life. You still alive???? I thought my homies went over to cap your ass???
asianlvr70 10 months ago
@asianlvr70 cap my ass??? how?? thruough the computer monitor??? hahahaha, estupido hijo de pobres ignorantes sin educacion, it's not your fault though, tus padres te criaron en la ignorancia, it's ok I understand
lookagain77 10 months ago
@lookagain77 serious dont you have a life??? all you do is stare at a computer all day uh??? Your a loser! Do You know I can get your IP address from your computer and pin point exactly where you are????
asianlvr70 10 months ago
@asianlvr70 mas ignorancia! ya veo no sabes mucho de computadoras tampoco, el IP solo te sirve si tienes acceso a la base de datos de mi ISP, ademas yo estoy en una red publica con IP dinamico asi que no te sirve de nada, no sabes un carajo de nada, y como no si seguro que tus padres ni terminaron la escuela y cruzaron por el desierto para venir a EEUU a vender churros y tacos en la esquina, y asi te criaron, pero no es tu culpa, me das lastima
lookagain77 10 months ago