As soon as a person claims Bucaille was a scientist that person looses all credibility. It shows that person is not honest and only tries to prove what s/he believes to be true.
Why do Muslims constantly insist the Koran is something special? Anyone with an internet connection can check this claim and find it is untrue. The fact alone that it is difficult to translate shows it is not the prefect word of a god, as other works of literature have been translated without losing their appeal.
@StopSpamming1 The fact that you said what you said just proves your ignorance. You don't know why it's impossible to translate all of it. Go learn Arabic first and then you can talk. The Message (which also includes miracles) can be translated, however, the Arabic Literary miracle can not be translated.
The Qur'an is Allah's word and if you accept this and become a Muslim, then this is the best for you.
Yeah, I know: your god only spoke a bit of Arabic and it was so bad that it can't be properly translated. Do you speak ancient Arabic? Do you speak Arabic at all?
Nothing in the Koran contains any miracle as it's just a bunch of stories, compiled and written down by ignorant scribes.
If, however, your god actually wrote the Koran, it would be beautiful, correct and easily translatable. It would be perfect.
Why don't I need Arabic to join Islam - but a Ph.D. to criticise it?
Say, "My Lord has only forbidden immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed - and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know." - 7:33 Qur'an
Yeah I speak Arabic. (Just think about what I quoted in English.) Oh and, Learn Arabic first and then you can talk.
@papermizzle Dont forget that the Heoroglief at that time was a dead language ! so you cant say that the beloved prophet (sallalahu aleyhi wa salam) copy or something else ! this is just ONE ! bud many more .. ! Blind man :)
@StopSpamming1 The quran discribe the persone close to the pharao ! O hamam... nowere is that name describe in the bible or the thora .. many years later when the heoroglieft are translated they discoverd the word Hamam ! it was not a name rather a proffesion ..Its is the head of the stonebuilders..The architect ! now pay attention to the vers of the quran where stated ''O Hamam build me a high tower where i can see these god of Musa verly i think he is a liar'' How could Muhhamd(saw) knew this
The Koran took a name from some story and placed it into Egypt. Where Haman was supposed to build a tower.
Did anyone find the beginnings of a tower? No.
Did anyone ever see the name Haman associated with a Pharaoh? No.
Does anyone know which Pharaoh we are talking about? No.
Nobody discovered the name Haman. There is a door with the name Hemen-Hetep on it, a god's name, which was taken as the name Haman by mistake from some idiot French doctor who did not know Egyptology.
Sorry, but that video is stupid. And only for beginners who might be gullible enough to believe such nonsense.
I would appreciate if people did not send me to watch videos, but make their point themselves.
I could send you to watch my videos I made on this, which explain all these points, but it is better to talk yourself. It also gives you the opportunity to rethink your position.
@StopSpamming1 First of all we do know wich pharao cause there is even proof that the pharao died of drowning ! ITS A KNOWN FACT ! and the word HAMAM is found and its not a name bud a proffesion the cheaf head of the stonebulders ! Im not making this up ..they are facts ! I thought atheist wantet facts ? When we give them facts they dont believe them ? what the hell ?
@StopSpamming1 The question now arises as to whether the Haman mentioned in the hieroglyph from the K.K. Hof Museum is the Haman mentioned in the Qur'an. Maybe. Although there are a lot of interesting similarities between the Haman's mentioned in the Qur'an and in the hieroglyph, it is currently not possible to determine with a great degree of certainty whether this hieroglyph refers to the Qur'anic Haman.
@StopSpamming1 It is also interesting to note that there also existed a similar sounding name called Hemon[71] (or Hemiunu / Hemionu[72] as he is also known as), a vizier to King Khnum-Khufu ! NOTE SIMILAR SOUNDING NAME !! SIMILAR SOUNDING NAME ! NOT THE SAME BUD SIMILAR SOUNDING ! dont twist the facts ! NOTE THEY DISCOVERD THE WORD HAMAM BUD COULD NOT FIGUR OUT that the hamam on the heoroglief is the same of the hamam of the quran ! BUD THE NAME IS THE SAME ! blind man :)
"Arabic is Allah's language?" Astaghfirullah. Was the Tawrat revealed in Arabic? Besides, the Ancient Hebrew of the Torah is probably better preserved and original than the Arabic of the Qur'an, and likewise quite incredible in its linguistic sophistication.
But it's interesting what he said about 'purifying' the self. 'Qad afla7a man tazakka'
@ConsideringPhlebas Interesting the way you write. Hmm...atheist but you sound like a muslim at first sight. Yes, Arabic belongs to ALLAH, in fact ALLAH not only owns the Arabic language, He owns all languages, so it is His own choice to reveal any of His Revelations in any languages that He wants. And He chose Arabic to be the Quranic language because Arabic is different from others in terms of its beauty. And He preserves the beauty of the language in its highest state. And ALLAH knows best.
Who is the speaker, pls?
clearsunnysky 6 days ago
@TheKap1an
If you tell that 4:3, 6:151 or 14:4 are perfect I know you are lying to yourself.
Then you turn a fault into a feature: if a bad text can't be understood it means it is perfect.
StopSpamming1 2 months ago
"is it wajib?" lol... soubhanAllah
MahyarAkbar 6 months ago
As soon as a person claims Bucaille was a scientist that person looses all credibility. It shows that person is not honest and only tries to prove what s/he believes to be true.
Why do Muslims constantly insist the Koran is something special? Anyone with an internet connection can check this claim and find it is untrue. The fact alone that it is difficult to translate shows it is not the prefect word of a god, as other works of literature have been translated without losing their appeal.
StopSpamming1 9 months ago
@StopSpamming1 The fact that you said what you said just proves your ignorance. You don't know why it's impossible to translate all of it. Go learn Arabic first and then you can talk. The Message (which also includes miracles) can be translated, however, the Arabic Literary miracle can not be translated.
The Qur'an is Allah's word and if you accept this and become a Muslim, then this is the best for you.
papermizzle 8 months ago
@papermizzle
Yeah, I know: your god only spoke a bit of Arabic and it was so bad that it can't be properly translated. Do you speak ancient Arabic? Do you speak Arabic at all?
Nothing in the Koran contains any miracle as it's just a bunch of stories, compiled and written down by ignorant scribes.
If, however, your god actually wrote the Koran, it would be beautiful, correct and easily translatable. It would be perfect.
Why don't I need Arabic to join Islam - but a Ph.D. to criticise it?
StopSpamming1 8 months ago
@StopSpamming1
Say, "My Lord has only forbidden immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed - and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know." - 7:33 Qur'an
Yeah I speak Arabic. (Just think about what I quoted in English.) Oh and, Learn Arabic first and then you can talk.
papermizzle 8 months ago
@papermizzle
I have no clue what you are hoping to achieve by quoting a verse from the Koran.
I criticise the contents of the Koran or any religious book and not people or religions per se. If you need it, believe it.
I don't find any truth in it and for sure nothing scientific.
StopSpamming1 8 months ago
@papermizzle Dont forget that the Heoroglief at that time was a dead language ! so you cant say that the beloved prophet (sallalahu aleyhi wa salam) copy or something else ! this is just ONE ! bud many more .. ! Blind man :)
albanianboxer 3 months ago
@StopSpamming1 The quran discribe the persone close to the pharao ! O hamam... nowere is that name describe in the bible or the thora .. many years later when the heoroglieft are translated they discoverd the word Hamam ! it was not a name rather a proffesion ..Its is the head of the stonebuilders..The architect ! now pay attention to the vers of the quran where stated ''O Hamam build me a high tower where i can see these god of Musa verly i think he is a liar'' How could Muhhamd(saw) knew this
albanianboxer 3 months ago
@albanianboxer
The Koran took a name from some story and placed it into Egypt. Where Haman was supposed to build a tower.
Did anyone find the beginnings of a tower? No.
Did anyone ever see the name Haman associated with a Pharaoh? No.
Does anyone know which Pharaoh we are talking about? No.
Nobody discovered the name Haman. There is a door with the name Hemen-Hetep on it, a god's name, which was taken as the name Haman by mistake from some idiot French doctor who did not know Egyptology.
StopSpamming1 3 months ago
@StopSpamming1 watch?v=YjOVc75MZXI - research the topic a little more.
papermizzle 3 months ago
@papermizzle
Sorry, but that video is stupid. And only for beginners who might be gullible enough to believe such nonsense.
I would appreciate if people did not send me to watch videos, but make their point themselves.
I could send you to watch my videos I made on this, which explain all these points, but it is better to talk yourself. It also gives you the opportunity to rethink your position.
StopSpamming1 3 months ago
@StopSpamming1 First of all we do know wich pharao cause there is even proof that the pharao died of drowning ! ITS A KNOWN FACT ! and the word HAMAM is found and its not a name bud a proffesion the cheaf head of the stonebulders ! Im not making this up ..they are facts ! I thought atheist wantet facts ? When we give them facts they dont believe them ? what the hell ?
albanianboxer 3 months ago
@StopSpamming1 The question now arises as to whether the Haman mentioned in the hieroglyph from the K.K. Hof Museum is the Haman mentioned in the Qur'an. Maybe. Although there are a lot of interesting similarities between the Haman's mentioned in the Qur'an and in the hieroglyph, it is currently not possible to determine with a great degree of certainty whether this hieroglyph refers to the Qur'anic Haman.
albanianboxer 3 months ago
@StopSpamming1 It is also interesting to note that there also existed a similar sounding name called Hemon[71] (or Hemiunu / Hemionu[72] as he is also known as), a vizier to King Khnum-Khufu ! NOTE SIMILAR SOUNDING NAME !! SIMILAR SOUNDING NAME ! NOT THE SAME BUD SIMILAR SOUNDING ! dont twist the facts ! NOTE THEY DISCOVERD THE WORD HAMAM BUD COULD NOT FIGUR OUT that the hamam on the heoroglief is the same of the hamam of the quran ! BUD THE NAME IS THE SAME ! blind man :)
albanianboxer 3 months ago
@albanianboxer
Oh man, you gotta learn a lot!
No, we don't know which Pharaoh it was.
No, there's no Pharaoh that died through drowning.
No, the name Haman was not found anywhere.
Yes, you are making this up. Or Bucaille was, anyway.
There is no KK Hof Museum in Vienna. Bucaille was wrong. He lied. He invented things.
And you blindly believe all this nonsense?
Why don't you think for yourself? Why not research? Check the "facts". I did.
StopSpamming1 3 months ago
"Arabic is Allah's language?" Astaghfirullah. Was the Tawrat revealed in Arabic? Besides, the Ancient Hebrew of the Torah is probably better preserved and original than the Arabic of the Qur'an, and likewise quite incredible in its linguistic sophistication.
But it's interesting what he said about 'purifying' the self. 'Qad afla7a man tazakka'
ConsideringPhlebas 9 months ago
@ConsideringPhlebas Interesting the way you write. Hmm...atheist but you sound like a muslim at first sight. Yes, Arabic belongs to ALLAH, in fact ALLAH not only owns the Arabic language, He owns all languages, so it is His own choice to reveal any of His Revelations in any languages that He wants. And He chose Arabic to be the Quranic language because Arabic is different from others in terms of its beauty. And He preserves the beauty of the language in its highest state. And ALLAH knows best.
7minuteFilms 9 months ago
@ConsideringPhlebas Don't speak about something you barely have any knowledge of.
papermizzle 8 months ago
@papermizzle
How do you know what I do and don't have knowledge of?
ConsideringPhlebas 8 months ago
Wonderful, unadulterated, pure refined self justifying cultism.
Perfection. I hope this video goes viral.A great example of being lost in a cult
Learn Arabic join a club. Learn Arabic,be in a cult. . Learn Arabic, claim intellectual superiority. Learn Arabic, spend half your deluded life parroting empty verbal rituals.
"Fanaticism consists of re doubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aims."
I wonder is your faith so 'true' and strong that
you will let this comment stand?
jonjoe1000 9 months ago
I think it's cool that this document is helping people to understand other historical documents.
TheRationalizer 9 months ago