I don't believe this that tagalog is the old language it's a big lol,you can't even feel about their behavior it's full of drama tagalog is made by old old filipiono from VisMin,ilocano chinise, javanese & spanish... It means their is no originality of tagalog..., that's why we call it now filipino cause it is a collective words from every island of the Philippines...
I don't believe this that tagalog is the old language it's a big lol,you can't even feel about their behavior it's full of drama tagalog is made by old old filipiono from VisMin,ilocano chinise, javanese & spanish... It means their is no originality of tagalog..., that's why we call it now filipino cause it is a collective words from every island of the Philippines...
What I believe is that the Baybayin Writings was originated as early as Sanskrit of India during the Brahmic Culture more or less 5000 years ago and that period there was no influence yet of Arabic culture in the philippines.
Up-to-date there are scripts and sound of Indian writing, the same as baybayin which are also originated from the Sankrit.
Our Baybayin is a family of Brahmic Scripts, Arabic influence just came lately.
According to the University of Oxford July 2010 Report The Philippines has a Multi-Dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) Headcount of 11.2 Million out of a population of 88.7 Million. Culled from the 2003 Data, these figures show about 12.6% of our population is in poverty. It's about the same proportion as China. Since 2003, our economy has steadily grown for 5 consecutive years except 2009 when there was a world recession. Using 2010 Data, the poverty ratio would even be much lower than we know.
Ang totoo wala tayong totoong kultura bilang iisang bansa... Multi Cultural nation tayo.. Iba't iba ang mga kultura natin dahil sa iba-iba ang ating mga apilyasyon. Nagkakaintindihan lang tayo dahil sa wika na wala pang isang daantaong ginawa ang wikang "filipino" ginawa dahil sa panghihiram ng iba't ibang wika mula sa iba't ibang lahi ng Pilipinas
Baybayin is derived from baybay, shore? Why do we need to be Arabo-phobic when that was how the scripts were transmitted and learned by our people? Because baybayin is tagalog, it now becomes the correct term? Why not sulat, sudat, surat, kudlit, kudlitan, kurdit, kurditan, pamagkudlit, kirim, etc? Panalo na ang salitang tagalog sa buong bansa, pero dapat namang ibigay ang dapat sa nararapat at huwag namang angkinin lahat! Hegemonyang tagalog ang nakakasira sa pagkakaisa.
@ihp0ts corrupt,tamad, sipsip magndang descriptn yan ng sarili mo. pede ba wag mo kami idamay na mga piipino. sakto sayo pangalan mo.waaaah! ang corrption ay laganap sa lhat ng bansa mayaman man o mahirap. ito ay katangian ng tao at hndi ng isang bansa. tamad,malamang ikaw. nakapag basa basa ka n ba? tanda mo na di mo pa rin alam kung bakit isinaksak sa isipang pilipino si juan tamad?mga kano nakisakay sa tagumpay ni ali,ni tyson,mga brits ni hatton,mexikano nina morales,kami ni pacquiao haaa!
o nga. tayo lang yata sa buong asya ang di gumagamit ng sarili natin panulat. mga intsik,hapon,koreano,bumbay,arabo, lahat sila may sarili. isipin mo lahat din sila mas mayaman sa atin ng husto. hahahaha! o kala ko ba ang pagyakap sa western culture, esp. sa kano culturang u.s.a ay ang susi sa kaunlaran. mas competitive daw o, waaaaa! bwahahahahaaaa!
@saburaynitutuniya hahaha tsina at india mayaman? at arabo mayaman? major economy ang india at china but they are still mired in poverty -_- ...alam nyo kung bakit di yumayaman ang pilipinas? dahil sa mga konserbatibong utak ng mga asyano at ng mga taong tulad nyo!
@ronelle106 mag pakatino muna tayo sumandali, gusto mong malaman ang tunay na dahilan kung bakit hindi umuunlad ang pinas? eto ang mga dahilan 1. Mga corrupt 2. Mga Tamad 3. Mga Sipsip 4. Mga taong tulad mo na nagiging Pinoy lang pag nanalo si Pac-man at magpapaka Pinoy lang pag nakilala na tayo sa mundo. Mga "masasangsang na isda" ayon kay Rizal kung baga. . ~P.S~ kung aangal ka makakabuti na magbigay ka ng mga pruweba at maayos na rason dahil kasalukuyan ka nilang pinapanood......sino? sila!
@ronelle106 sa bigkas pa lang ngalay bading na bading mga sinasabiy aning na aning. ungas, tila ba ikay may utak na gapulgas. sa sobrang lito mo di mo alam kung ikay pilipino o taga pluto. a nga pala naisip ko, pil-am ka no? oo pilam, pinalaki sa am. waaaah!
this really helps me cush i've been tying to figure out what thee name of thee old writing was called because i'm looking for thee baybayin for mabuhay. i want it as a tattoo on my left side ribs.
Hindi natin kailngan ng pag-unlad. Ang kailngan lang natin ay pagmamahalan (bayan at tao)
Ikumpara mo sa mga Kano na una sa ekonomiya ngunit isa sa pinaka magulo at pinaka malungkot na bansa. Mas mabuti na ang ganto tayo kababa kaysa maunlad na malungkot
@BansangMalaya C'mon alam natin na hindi rin satin ang pagsulat na yan dahil galing yan sa malaysia, kaya bakit pa natin pag aaksayahan ng panahon yan eh marunong naman tayo ng Roman alphabet na mas importante kesa dyan?
@BansangMalaya dahil yun ang ginagamit ngayon na mas makakatulong sa lahat, ayaw mo gamitin dahil galing sa mga kastila? tama nga ang una kong sinabi. TRADITIONAL PATRIOT.
@iHateAnime4LIfe hahaha.. kesa naman pag aksayahan ko ng panahon ang pag iimbento ng sariling wika na sa totoo lang ay di naman magagamit. PRACTICALITY. Hindi ba mas colonial mentality and pagkainggit nyo sa mga hapon at kung ano pang bansa na may sarili? ..hahah tama mga inggitero kayo.. grabe talaga ang mga INGGITERO ngayon!
@ronelle106 ungas! anong imbento ang pinagsasasabi mo? sintagal na ng huli kang maligot magsipilyo ang baybayin naming ito. wag mong pasamain ang pagnanasa naming maibalik ang aming baybayin sa pagtawag saming inggitero.wika mo(english) hiram,panulat mo hiram pangalan mo hiram, kasarian mo,......di mo alam.waaaaah!
@ronelle106 gamitin mo mang salita ang inggitero, dahil yan lang ang kaya mo upang makapanira at pawalan saysay ang kaisipan ko. kun talagang nakabuti satin ang pagtalikod sating sarili ay bakit tayo ang mga tagapag silbi?(ofw''s) kun tyo ang magaling dapat sanay hapon,intsik,koreano,singaporean,hongkong,etc ang narito satin pra manilbihan. bkit talo tyo gayong nasatin ang ingles at kulturang kanluranin na wala sila? yumaman cla nang hindi itinatapon ang kanilang sariling pagkakakilanlan.
@saburaynitutuniya alam nyo minsan gusto kong paratangan na traydor ang mga OFW. Pero naiintindihan ko sila kung bakit nila gingawa ang magpakaalila sa ibang bansa. Pero hindi ba't mas mgaling kung dito sila maglingkod? At masuklian ang kanilang mga pinaghirapan sa sariling bansa? Ngunit sa kasalukuyan hindi natin masisi sila dahil pagtakas sa kahirapan ang nais nilang iuna.
@ronelle106 hoy balbas, to na lang mas madali upang di ka na malito. bakit parang ang hirap sayong intindihin na marami saming mga pilipino ang nagnnais na maibalik ang aming sariling pagkakakilanlan? (ngunit teka nene wag mo na sagutin parang alam ko na,hehe) ikinakaila mo ba na mas maunlad sa ating ang ating mga kapit bansa? ang sinasabi ko isa halimbawa ay sa kabila ng sapilitang pagtuturo satin ng english sa ating edukasyon ay kulelat pa rin tayo kumpara sa kanila pro wla cla english educ.
@saburaynitutuniya hahaha.. akala nyo kasi western cultures ang dahilan ng paghihirap ng bansa.. pero dahil lang naman talaga yun sa sariling kabobohan na din ng mga filipino. at tingin mo makakatulong sa atin yang pinagagawa nyo? hahaha mag aaksaya lang ng pera para sa pag aaral at pagdevelop nyan. Tulad ng pagsasayang ng pera na ginawa sa paglikha ng lengwahe na ginagamit ko ngayon na hindi naman makakatulang sa pag unlad PARA LANG MAKAPAGYABANG TAYO NA MAY SARILING WIKA
@ronelle106 sang ayon ako sa sinabi mo... Ang suliranin natin ay hindi ang kung anong wika o kultura na mayroon tayo... Dahil hindi kumikilos ang bansang ito bilang isang bansa kundi kumikilos ang mga nakatira dito bilang mga makasariling mga nilalang.... Dahil sa pagiging makasarili pinanganak ang mga mortal na kasalanan sa bansa tulad ng Kasakiman, korapsyon, at iba pa.
@Realcomtrasher no. not really. its just hard to understand at first pero when u get used to it, its okay. i can read arabic but not exactly the exact word i want to hear. i could also read korean and its the same thing in all language, theres a hard part in it to read.
if baybayn based on kawi script Do you guys understand javanese counting number below? 1 = siji 2 = loro 3 = telu 4 = papat 5 = limo 6 = enem 7 = pitu 8 = wolu 9 = songo 10 = sepuluh Anyway, im javanese from indonesia :D
if baybayn based on kawi script Do you guys understand javanese counting number below? 1 = siji 2 = loro 3 = telu 4 = papat 5 = limo 6 = enem 7 = pitu 8 = 8 9 = songo 10 = sepuluh Anyway, im javanese from indonesia :D
if baybayn based on kawi script Do you guys understand javanese counting number below? 1 = siji 2 = loro 3 = telu 4 = papat 5 = limo 6 = enem 7 = pitu 8 = 8 9 = songo 10 = sepuluh Anyway, im javanese from indonesia :D
What I don't get is how consonants at the end of a syllable are mysteriously added in speach but not written in the original form. I don't like the Spanish mod. The plus symbol looks too modern. It takes away from the authenticity. meh...
@salgeezy@salgeezy I read from a site that the ancient Filipinos are used to reading the Baybayin that once they see a group of the cymbols, they can read instantly. Say for example, ' bundok'. it is written without the n and k and reads as 'budo'. however, the ancient Filipinos knows that this really means and reads it as 'bundok'.
damio nananamn matatalino dito.. hahaha bakit daming matatalino dito kaya lang walang sense mga pinaguusapan... wala pang mga pera.. hahah joke lang =)
Proto Canaanite the source of almost all writings? I don't buy it. I think the reason why they say this is because Phoenecia is close to Europe. The same as that flop theory about the origins of Bronze, according to them it started in the Mesopotamia then spread to Europe, India, China and arrived last in S.E. Asia. But when bronze artifacts were dicovered in Thailand that predated those in the Middle East, it smashed all these theories. No, not Arabs who introduced bronze to the Philippines.
Books are wrong, they were written during the 19th and early 20th century by western writers. This was the height of colonialism and racism, to establish white supremacy they have to fool the world by saying that everything sophisticated in ancient India was due to the Aryans ( whites like them ), so any similarities with Southeast Asia, they give the credit to India. Filipino historians just follow it to avoid being laughed at, so now every book say that the baybayin's roots is India.
ALL linguists agree that babayin descended from Indian writing systems. It descends from the Kawi script, which originated in Java, and spread across Maritime Southeast Asia. (Indonesia, Malaysia, and THE PHILIPPINES) Yes, Kawi was also used in the Philippines. It was used most prominently on the Laguna Copperplate, which effectively PROVED that there was in fact a sophisticated society in the Philippines before the Spanish, and pushed back the beginning of recorded Philippine history to 900 AD.
Also almost all writing systems have a common origin: the Proto-Canaanite alphabet. The only living writing systems that didn't descend from it is the East Asian writing systems: Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.
if we use this song writing the provincial/regional accents will be appreciated by tagalog because if we still use english it will still cause a problem by regional accents cause many of filipinos dont appreciate that being wrong by getting e to i o to u is a regional/provincial accent.
it's possible that books are also wrong because it's also possible that the things that the indians,chinese and arabians are influenced by the filipino there is just many more findings or discoveries that will let the researchers believe that they are more influencial those times and its more believable because of the present time indians,chinese and arabians are one of the fastest growing countries and influencial ones may be the ancient filipino's writings those time were beurned by the spain.
Another big clue is the worship of the sun god Ra, he is not only the deity of Egypt but his also found among the Polynesian islands, everyone knows that polynesians came from southeast asia. It's so ironic because these two people are two oceans apart, if you look at the map Southeast asia is in the middle. The wearing of the malong and head scarfs by ancient Filipinos was attributed by some as originating in India. But polynesians also wear them, and they are outside the influenced of India.
Sounds unbelievable right, but i did some research and found out that the earliest Pharaohs of Egypt look nothing like the present Egyptians, in fact they look more like Filipinos. They are depicted in there statues as beardless, brown skin, brachycephalic face, and some have slight epechantic eyes which is a typical sound east asian feature. Same with India, if you look at ancient statues of Vishnu, and other hindu gods they look like southeast asians. So who influenced who here?
why do filipinos think that everything in our ancient culture came from India China or Arabia? whether it be clothing, writing, or the food that we eat. Before, i use to think this way, coz that's what our history books say, until i read the book Eden in the East by Oppenheimer. According to him and other researchers Southeast Asia is the Cradle of Civilization and all the founders of the earliest kingdoms of Egypt, Summeria, India and China came from southeast asia.
The reason why the Mangyans and Tagbanuas often mistake their scripts as a variation is because the Baybayin t) began to take form into different variants throughout the Philippines BUT the Mangyan and Tagbanua are still different YET closely related to the Baybayin script. Either way, the Baybayin, Mangyan and Tagbanwa scripts are different from each other. And with regards to the Ivatan, Ilokano, Cebuano styles and etc., they are just variants of the Baybayin.
"* Those tribes made their own version of that style of writing that was brought to them by some of those Indonesians and Malaysians who have helped Arabs to spread Islam in the Philippines .
I think Indian influences began to flourish in the Philippines way back before they (Indonesians and Malaysians) began to introduce Islam. I think the Indonesians introduced the Baybayin WAY BEFORE they are converted to Islam.
But it's obviously biased to say just because someone from an ethnic group who is culturally related to the baybayin is ALWAYS right. I have to logically assest their claim first. And most of all, scholars had studied these things.
So, where are the sources. Why don't you prove your arguments? I mean, have you even checked out the links that I gave you?
You don't sound convincing. You should give me the proof (I mean tangible proof like websites or books or scholarly articles) that would prove your argument that Baybayin is the root ancestor of all Philippine scripts. Alibata is just coined by Versoza and it's erroneous.
I guess we got our info from completely different sources that we don't agree upon this topic.
The Arabic calligraphy that is used in the Philippines is called Jawi which is also used in Malaysia and Indonesia. It's only 2 centuries before the Magellan came that the Arabic script is introduced to the Philippines by Muslims. And most of the people who brought Islam to the Philippines are not Arabs but Malays (from Brunei and Johore Sultanates).
Where did you get that info? Give me the source. You're not even a scholare to say that. The Filipino Muslim you talked about doesn't deserve to be a scholar. Make sure you get your sources from books and other scholarly tools, including the internet, not from random people you meet.
It seems you are uber-cynical. To correct your illogical statements.
1. Hanunoo is the script of the Mangyans and Tagbanua script is the script of the Tagbanuas. BOTH are different yet related scripts to the Baybayin.
2. If you think you can write and understand Baybayin characters, then why don't you study the Brahmi and Arabic script too so that you can see the truth. Take note, I did a paper on this too and I'm definitely sure I know I lot more than you do about this script.
3. It seems that you are correct that the word "Baybayin" also means seashore BUT it also means another thing which is my definition as a script. Just like the word "buhay" which means "life" and "alive".
4. I don't think Chabacano uses Baybayin because Chabacano is not even an indigenous language. Rather, it's creole Spanish. I don't know why the scholars called it "Tagalog Script" but I have to guess the Tagalogs were the first one to use the "Baybayin". Either way, Baybayin is more accurate.
Identifying the origins of a script is not merely looking at its physical characteristics and comparing it with other foreign scripts that might look similar to the said script.
The Baybayin is of Indian Origin. Although it's plausible that the Brahmi, the script's ultimate ancestor is somehow related to the Arabic script but that's another story. That doesn't make the Baybayin as Arabic Origin either.
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I never said Indians came to the Philippines, although there are possible contacts. Indian influence was indirectly introduced and adopted by natives through traders from Malaysia and Indonesia.
You're obviously biased. You should back up your statements with research. The baybayin is of indian origin. and the term Alibata is erroneous.
And no, the term "Baybayin" is not the "seashore" you're talking about. The term "Baybayin" comes from the Tagalog root word "baybay" which means "to spell".
Baybayin in Tagalog (there is no such thing as a Philippine Language) means "to spell", hence fitting its status as a Philippine syllabic script.
And Kawi came from the island of Java in Indonesia, not in Malaysia. Indonesia have much more cultural influences from India than Malaysia. Indonesia is the source of all Indian influences in the Philippines and Malaysia, including the Indian scripts themselves.
Alibata is a descendant of the Kawi script (from Indonesia) which is, in turn, a descendant of the Pallava script (from India). The term Alibata is not even the right word. The right term is Baybayin. Alibata was just coined erroneously by some Filipino historian because the historian taught it looks like the Arabic script.
I got a friend who wanted to have pride tattoo on his back in alibata, but the tattoo artist who happene'd to be white did not know what pride is in tagalog, to make a long story short my friend called his Mom and asked how do say pride in tagalog, her responed was Pirito, she taught he was asking what is fried in tagalog. lol. Now he got Pinoy Pirito on his back. ahahahah.
@salgeezy You like that ah,lol it's realy true, my friend still got that prito on his back,lol. he refuse to show it to anyone now,lol I been trying to take a picture of it and i'll post here on youtube,lol peace
Good point but people tend to call it the ancient Philippine script (oxymoron) because there's no other name of our islands before the Spanish. I like to say pre-Philippines and pre-Filipino.
pre-Philippines is politically correct BUT coining the Baybayin (as well as other scripts like the Hanunoo), in a post-colonial POV, as a Philippine script is not erroneous because its a way to distinguish these scripts from other related scripts in SE Asia like the Kawi, Lontara and Rejang scripts (which are "Indonesian" scripts). Remember, there was no Indonesia, Philippines or Malaysia right before the Europeans came when we're talking about political borders.
Politically speaking, there was no "Philippines" before the Spaniards came, but speaking in a post-colonial point of view, most tend to insert the term "Philippine" to distinguish from other relative scripts in Southeast Asia like Kawi, Lontara and Rejang (which are all "Indonesian" script).
this is a big proof that filipinos are civilized even before the spaniuards came. Spaniards are so imprudent and totally rudee upon saying that filipinos are idiots. this is real SPANIARDS ARE IDIOTS
Not evey Filipino was using this script. In fact, I doubt if there was ever a Philippines per se back then. The Spaniards were idiots, but we owe them a lot; for starters, there would've been no Filipino identity without them
Correction: identities. I just hate it when Tagalog imperialists impose their culture and language on others. Wouldn't that be historical revisionism already? But I digress.
Not only did Spain make our identities recognizable, they also - accidentaly or not - gave us a single identity which we now embrace as Filipino. Don't you agree?
I can see your sentiments but I'm not talking about TAGALOG IMPERIALISM here. What I meant was we had identities back then. The thing is, it's not Filipino. It's Cebuano, Ilokano, Tagalog, Bikolano, Ilonggo, Waray, etc. Politically, Spain and the USA united us and molded our identity as Filipinos. But still these ethnic mentality exists in almost every Filipino, possibly as a backlash against Tagalog Imperialism? So to answer your question: NO I don't agree.
Exactly my point. Filipino identity is an artificial construct, currently used as a front for Tagalog identity. We've been too obsessed on sticking with a single language, single culture, and single heritage that we've left all the others in the periphery. Not only that, but we try to eliminate these regionalisms. It infuriates me whenever Visayans are made fun of in pop culture, or when one is told "Kung hindi ka marunong managalog, hindi ka Pilipino."
I share your point. This is also exactly what I have in mind. I guess it's because Manila, a Tagalog-speaking place, is the capital and the center of media, politics and industry of the Philippines, that Tagalog identity became Filipino identity. But I also have to say that some persons other regional ethnic groups are also promoting Tagalog imperialism because they're naive. You cannot blame this phenomenon to all Tagalog people.
And I'm not talking about Filipino identity in my previous posts. I'm talking about the use of the word "Philippine" to correctly describe the Baybayin as "our" script as far as territorial and political circumstances are concerned. Spain might have gave us an identity but, on a subconscious level, we still identify according to our respective mother tongues or regions of origin.
"I just hate it when Tagalog imperialists impose their culture and language on others."
The fact that Tagalistas are imposing their language on non-Tagalogs are true. But with regards on the cultural enforcement, I don't think so. I mean, for example, I grew up in an Ilokano province and we don't celebrate the Lenten Season by doing pasyon, unlike what you see in the Tagalog regions.
ito ang atin... ito ang 2nay n Letra ng Lahing Filipino...
kya dpt imulat ang 2 mata at suriin ng mbute ang bwat pahina ng ating nkaraan, wg nting tlikuran o kalimutan ang 2nay n ating pnanggalingan!! my srile tyon atin, my srile tyong wika!
kun hnd dhl s mpngsmantalang mga tao ay, sna mgnda at hnd nbura ang sriling atin...kya dpt mging proud tyo at wg ipgswalang bahala ang lumipas at kultura ng ating lupang sinilangan asan k mang sulok ng MUNDO, Filipino Numero Uno s buong MUNDO...
wow!!! i love this.. thanks!! i was always dreaming someday we will be using this instead of the roman alphabet.. see? meron pala tayong sariling atin.. wow kay ganda. at ang musika perfect.
I think Baybayin is such a beautiful script. In fact, it would be great if the Philippines revert back to this writing system. I'm from Indonesia and we also have lots of obsolete traditional scripts, but the problem is, we have too many different kinds of scripts - it's hard to determine which one should be regarded as the 'national' script. I think languages that are written using its traditional scripts are just wonderful, e.g. Thai, Burmese, Hindi, etc...
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i know alibata i learned it last week the technique of learning it is write out all the alibata and memorize it then translate some english sentences to tagalog and then alibata
i think it's more related to indian languages, i was readin up, and it has similarities to brahmi/pallava scripts, used in india, sri lanka, cambodia, thailand, laos
Baybayin or Alibata is a pre-Spanish Philippine writing system that originated from the Javanese script Old Kawi. The writing system is a member of the Brahmic familyand is believed to have been in use as early as the 14th century.[1] It continued in use during the Spanish colonization of the Philippines up until the late 19th Century. The term baybayin literally means syllables. Closely related scripts are Hanunóo, Buhid, and Tagbanwa.
yeee, that's wicked bro, i knew there was a connection, if you look at letters from thai, khmai, and even south indian langauges like telugu, and tamil, you'll see some similarities
....THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!! It is just relates to arabic,hindu,java,lao,cambofian,etc....from QUESTS OF THE DRAGON AND BIRD CLAN,...we may say that it was first originated in the philippines!!!!
I've actually seen this before. Thank you for sharing it! Like VANNESSAAashley88 (comment below) I would love to know certain characters for possible tattoo design. :)
aw uunga hindi lengwahe sa sulat ba ibig kong sabhin kase pag nabasa nang mga tao mag tataka lahat sila san ko nakuha yang mga letra na yan,sasabihin nila sang lengwahe ko nakuha yan pero di nila alam lumang katutubong pilipino pala nanggaling yung mga letrang yan ahehehe : )
pls give your basis that we have mexican blood, are you implying the filipinos have a mayan culture? hispanic yes because of the occupation, mexican? you must be confused.
The Spanish should publicly APOLOGIZE for occupying the philippines and for exploiting our peopl and bastardizing our race as well as our culture. till this day many filipinos are mistaken with our history and many think that there isnt a PRE HISPANIC history way before the occupying spanish. wake up filipinos we are not spanish let us fight this colonial slavery which plagues us till this day.
It is very important to study these wrtings before they are use. So out of respect "PLEASE read books and do some resaerch before using these ancient writings. The last thing we want to do is basterdize them for what it really means. SALAMAT
What im seeing is alot of overusing and exploitation of alibata this can lead to misinterpretation. All of a sudden its cool to have Alibata tatoo, or translate names or word online and print them on a media without fully researching its translation and its authenticity. Im not saying that people should stop getting alibata taoos im just saying do some intensive research, consult with Alibata scholars before using them.
I wish I spoke my mom's language (Visayan) so I can leave my comment in her language. :) I had no idea there was a Filipino form of writing! I would love that hat! :D Thanks for sharing the video!
alibata was taught to us when i was in grade 6 i think....but it was not really given that much importance....but i really like it...i tried to write in alibata before...but i already forgot it now since we are not really using it these days....
i want to learn alibata..
uileinashla 2 weeks ago
I'm from lampung (sumatera island), Indonesia!
Our alfabet structure has uniformity..
»ka ga nga pa ba ma ta da na ca ja ya la wa sa ha«
And some words has simmiliarity which is not same to indonesian/malay word,,
Can somebody explain this??
bakas35 1 month ago
can anyone help me write something in babiyan?
pricofilipinaamerica 2 months ago
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I don't believe this that tagalog is the old language it's a big lol,you can't even feel about their behavior it's full of drama tagalog is made by old old filipiono from VisMin,ilocano chinise, javanese & spanish... It means their is no originality of tagalog..., that's why we call it now filipino cause it is a collective words from every island of the Philippines...
trinicxxx 3 months ago
I don't believe this that tagalog is the old language it's a big lol,you can't even feel about their behavior it's full of drama tagalog is made by old old filipiono from VisMin,ilocano chinise, javanese & spanish... It means their is no originality of tagalog..., that's why we call it now filipino cause it is a collective words from every island of the Philippines...
trinicxxx 3 months ago
,go for Baybayin today,..lots of Filipino/Luvano/Maharlikas learning the script,...
jaysonvillaruz 6 months ago
@jaysonvillaruz
where can you learn it?
poofkaboom 5 months ago
@pearlqf
I see your point.
What I believe is that the Baybayin Writings was originated as early as Sanskrit of India during the Brahmic Culture more or less 5000 years ago and that period there was no influence yet of Arabic culture in the philippines.
Up-to-date there are scripts and sound of Indian writing, the same as baybayin which are also originated from the Sankrit.
Our Baybayin is a family of Brahmic Scripts, Arabic influence just came lately.
RDMofDAVAO 6 months ago
According to the University of Oxford July 2010 Report The Philippines has a Multi-Dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) Headcount of 11.2 Million out of a population of 88.7 Million. Culled from the 2003 Data, these figures show about 12.6% of our population is in poverty. It's about the same proportion as China. Since 2003, our economy has steadily grown for 5 consecutive years except 2009 when there was a world recession. Using 2010 Data, the poverty ratio would even be much lower than we know.
shaider77 9 months ago
Baybayin is not alibata, please correct this common misconception.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
Ang totoo wala tayong totoong kultura bilang iisang bansa... Multi Cultural nation tayo.. Iba't iba ang mga kultura natin dahil sa iba-iba ang ating mga apilyasyon. Nagkakaintindihan lang tayo dahil sa wika na wala pang isang daantaong ginawa ang wikang "filipino" ginawa dahil sa panghihiram ng iba't ibang wika mula sa iba't ibang lahi ng Pilipinas
dawnhunter425 10 months ago
i want this language back..=)
ericsantiago011 11 months ago
Let me correct ALIBATA is not the right term, the correct term is BAYBAYIN. Alibata term was derived from the Arabic Alphabet.
RDMofDAVAO 1 year ago 7
@RDMofDAVAO
Baybayin is derived from baybay, shore? Why do we need to be Arabo-phobic when that was how the scripts were transmitted and learned by our people? Because baybayin is tagalog, it now becomes the correct term? Why not sulat, sudat, surat, kudlit, kudlitan, kurdit, kurditan, pamagkudlit, kirim, etc? Panalo na ang salitang tagalog sa buong bansa, pero dapat namang ibigay ang dapat sa nararapat at huwag namang angkinin lahat! Hegemonyang tagalog ang nakakasira sa pagkakaisa.
pearlqf 6 months ago
meron to sa bohol malapit tinitirhan ko,,,
jagna ako
tapos ung kilala ko ataga duero bohol sa bundok sila
nopah1990 1 year ago
Bakit tayo:
1.corrupt
2.tamad
3. sipsip
4.nakikisakay sa tagumpay ni pacquiao.
May sagot ako pero gusto kong marinig ang sagot mo dito. salamat
ihp0ts 1 year ago 2
@ihp0ts corrupt,tamad, sipsip magndang descriptn yan ng sarili mo. pede ba wag mo kami idamay na mga piipino. sakto sayo pangalan mo.waaaah! ang corrption ay laganap sa lhat ng bansa mayaman man o mahirap. ito ay katangian ng tao at hndi ng isang bansa. tamad,malamang ikaw. nakapag basa basa ka n ba? tanda mo na di mo pa rin alam kung bakit isinaksak sa isipang pilipino si juan tamad?mga kano nakisakay sa tagumpay ni ali,ni tyson,mga brits ni hatton,mexikano nina morales,kami ni pacquiao haaa!
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
o nga. tayo lang yata sa buong asya ang di gumagamit ng sarili natin panulat. mga intsik,hapon,koreano,bumbay,arabo, lahat sila may sarili. isipin mo lahat din sila mas mayaman sa atin ng husto. hahahaha! o kala ko ba ang pagyakap sa western culture, esp. sa kano culturang u.s.a ay ang susi sa kaunlaran. mas competitive daw o, waaaaa! bwahahahahaaaa!
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
@saburaynitutuniya hahaha tsina at india mayaman? at arabo mayaman? major economy ang india at china but they are still mired in poverty -_- ...alam nyo kung bakit di yumayaman ang pilipinas? dahil sa mga konserbatibong utak ng mga asyano at ng mga taong tulad nyo!
ronelle106 1 year ago
iHateAnime4LIfe 1 year ago
@ronelle106 sa bigkas pa lang ngalay bading na bading mga sinasabiy aning na aning. ungas, tila ba ikay may utak na gapulgas. sa sobrang lito mo di mo alam kung ikay pilipino o taga pluto. a nga pala naisip ko, pil-am ka no? oo pilam, pinalaki sa am. waaaah!
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
Ang nakaraan natin ay wag limutin.
"Ang taong hindi marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan hindi makakarating sa paroroonan"
BansangMalaya 1 year ago
thanks!
this really helps me cush i've been tying to figure out what thee name of thee old writing was called because i'm looking for thee baybayin for mabuhay. i want it as a tattoo on my left side ribs.
SALAMAT A!!!
ayepancit 1 year ago
clearly.. 1.19, u can c the syllable O-u on the top right distinctively come from the oldest Hindu Civilisation.. google up sanskrit Om or O.
The numerrics too seem to have many of the words are not far from the pronouciation of Sanskrit
nottylibrarian4u 1 year ago
sus kalokohan. traditional patriots. walang uunlad satin kung patuloy na magiging traditional patriot.
ronelle106 1 year ago
@ronelle106
Hindi natin kailngan ng pag-unlad. Ang kailngan lang natin ay pagmamahalan (bayan at tao)
Ikumpara mo sa mga Kano na una sa ekonomiya ngunit isa sa pinaka magulo at pinaka malungkot na bansa. Mas mabuti na ang ganto tayo kababa kaysa maunlad na malungkot
BansangMalaya 1 year ago
@BansangMalaya C'mon alam natin na hindi rin satin ang pagsulat na yan dahil galing yan sa malaysia, kaya bakit pa natin pag aaksayahan ng panahon yan eh marunong naman tayo ng Roman alphabet na mas importante kesa dyan?
ronelle106 1 year ago
@ronelle106
ibalik natin ang sagot mo:
bat pa natin pag-aaralan ang Roman alphabet kung nanggaling ito sa mga Romano na dinala satin ng mga Espanyol?
BansangMalaya 1 year ago
@BansangMalaya dahil yun ang ginagamit ngayon na mas makakatulong sa lahat, ayaw mo gamitin dahil galing sa mga kastila? tama nga ang una kong sinabi. TRADITIONAL PATRIOT.
ronelle106 1 year ago
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BansangMalaya 1 year ago
@ronelle106
sorry, ulitin ko nalang ang tanong ko
una, hindi ka ba nahihiya na mas marami kang alam sa kultura ng mga dayuhan kaysa sa sarili mo?
ikalawa, ang tinutukoy mo ay RACISM at hindi ako RACIST
BansangMalaya 1 year ago
@ronelle106
grabe talaga ang batak ng Colonial Mentality ngayon.
Ilan pa kayang masasangsang na isda ang makikita ko dito sa YouTube
grabe talaga ang sasangsang ninyo!
iHateAnime4LIfe 1 year ago
@iHateAnime4LIfe hahaha.. kesa naman pag aksayahan ko ng panahon ang pag iimbento ng sariling wika na sa totoo lang ay di naman magagamit. PRACTICALITY. Hindi ba mas colonial mentality and pagkainggit nyo sa mga hapon at kung ano pang bansa na may sarili? ..hahah tama mga inggitero kayo.. grabe talaga ang mga INGGITERO ngayon!
ronelle106 1 year ago
@ronelle106
hmm.... gusto mo hima-himayin ko ang mga sinabi mo?
1.
bago ko sagutin ang sinabi mo, bat hindi mo muna sagutin si BansangMalaya?
2.
Alam mo ba na kaya kitang ipahiya ngayon dahil sa pag-sasabi mo ng isang bagay na wala naman sa topic?
2a) bat di mo muna alamin ang ibig sabihin ng "Colonial Mentality" bago ako pa ang pagpamuka nito sayo?
2b) asan ang pruweba mo na naiingit ako?
alam mo ba ang dahilan kung bakit ko binuo ang channel nato? T_T
iHateAnime4LIfe 1 year ago
@ronelle106 ungas! anong imbento ang pinagsasasabi mo? sintagal na ng huli kang maligot magsipilyo ang baybayin naming ito. wag mong pasamain ang pagnanasa naming maibalik ang aming baybayin sa pagtawag saming inggitero.wika mo(english) hiram,panulat mo hiram pangalan mo hiram, kasarian mo,......di mo alam.waaaaah!
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
@ronelle106 gamitin mo mang salita ang inggitero, dahil yan lang ang kaya mo upang makapanira at pawalan saysay ang kaisipan ko. kun talagang nakabuti satin ang pagtalikod sating sarili ay bakit tayo ang mga tagapag silbi?(ofw''s) kun tyo ang magaling dapat sanay hapon,intsik,koreano,singaporean,hongkong,etc ang narito satin pra manilbihan. bkit talo tyo gayong nasatin ang ingles at kulturang kanluranin na wala sila? yumaman cla nang hindi itinatapon ang kanilang sariling pagkakakilanlan.
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
@saburaynitutuniya alam nyo minsan gusto kong paratangan na traydor ang mga OFW. Pero naiintindihan ko sila kung bakit nila gingawa ang magpakaalila sa ibang bansa. Pero hindi ba't mas mgaling kung dito sila maglingkod? At masuklian ang kanilang mga pinaghirapan sa sariling bansa? Ngunit sa kasalukuyan hindi natin masisi sila dahil pagtakas sa kahirapan ang nais nilang iuna.
dawnhunter425 10 months ago
@ronelle106 hoy balbas, to na lang mas madali upang di ka na malito. bakit parang ang hirap sayong intindihin na marami saming mga pilipino ang nagnnais na maibalik ang aming sariling pagkakakilanlan? (ngunit teka nene wag mo na sagutin parang alam ko na,hehe) ikinakaila mo ba na mas maunlad sa ating ang ating mga kapit bansa? ang sinasabi ko isa halimbawa ay sa kabila ng sapilitang pagtuturo satin ng english sa ating edukasyon ay kulelat pa rin tayo kumpara sa kanila pro wla cla english educ.
saburaynitutuniya 1 year ago
@saburaynitutuniya hahaha.. akala nyo kasi western cultures ang dahilan ng paghihirap ng bansa.. pero dahil lang naman talaga yun sa sariling kabobohan na din ng mga filipino. at tingin mo makakatulong sa atin yang pinagagawa nyo? hahaha mag aaksaya lang ng pera para sa pag aaral at pagdevelop nyan. Tulad ng pagsasayang ng pera na ginawa sa paglikha ng lengwahe na ginagamit ko ngayon na hindi naman makakatulang sa pag unlad PARA LANG MAKAPAGYABANG TAYO NA MAY SARILING WIKA
ronelle106 1 year ago
@ronelle106 sang ayon ako sa sinabi mo... Ang suliranin natin ay hindi ang kung anong wika o kultura na mayroon tayo... Dahil hindi kumikilos ang bansang ito bilang isang bansa kundi kumikilos ang mga nakatira dito bilang mga makasariling mga nilalang.... Dahil sa pagiging makasarili pinanganak ang mga mortal na kasalanan sa bansa tulad ng Kasakiman, korapsyon, at iba pa.
dawnhunter425 10 months ago
Paano ko isusulat ang pangalan ko sa Baybayin?
raxiel1231 1 year ago
arabic letters are shit..........
Realcomtrasher 1 year ago
@Realcomtrasher no. not really. its just hard to understand at first pero when u get used to it, its okay. i can read arabic but not exactly the exact word i want to hear. i could also read korean and its the same thing in all language, theres a hard part in it to read.
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evinderman 1 year ago
no we dont..understand javanese..maybe a long time ago
pianoasiankimchi 1 year ago
BaronBanahaw 1 year ago
i wish we still use that till now
35El 1 year ago
alibata is not proper call it baybayin
bruceblitzconfessed 1 year ago
What I don't get is how consonants at the end of a syllable are mysteriously added in speach but not written in the original form. I don't like the Spanish mod. The plus symbol looks too modern. It takes away from the authenticity. meh...
salgeezy 1 year ago
@salgeezy @salgeezy I read from a site that the ancient Filipinos are used to reading the Baybayin that once they see a group of the cymbols, they can read instantly. Say for example, ' bundok'. it is written without the n and k and reads as 'budo'. however, the ancient Filipinos knows that this really means and reads it as 'bundok'.
John081590 1 year ago
Prang Egyptian yung manga Alpabito or BayBayni
at para na ring Muslim ang ganda talga
fods202 1 year ago
its anobata? so please use the right term
isdakongsupot 1 year ago
its not Alibata .... its BAYBAYNI please use the right term!!....
KayoLangOy 1 year ago
ITs not alibata... use the right term its baybayin..
Kejaminez 1 year ago
Its BAYBAYIN.......... NOT ALIBATA
lastsuyan 1 year ago
change name to baybayin... not alibata.. di tayo arabo choy!..
plus24seven 2 years ago
gagaling nyo..pakisulat nga sa babayin..ang PINOY AKO....
chardnj 2 years ago
damio nananamn matatalino dito.. hahaha bakit daming matatalino dito kaya lang walang sense mga pinaguusapan... wala pang mga pera.. hahah joke lang =)
peejay1on1 2 years ago
Hey I think you're gay because your username translates into "sucking cock 69". Actually I am sure you're a horny "bading".
MrSammyConcepcion 2 years ago
hoy unggoy. alam mo ba ang pinag sasabi mo? bro kung sinabing kung tsupakogotin69 yon ang bading.. ko'g at ka'g alam mo ba yan???
tsupakagotin69 2 years ago
However way you twist it, it means the same: you'd like to suck dick. By definition that is gay.
SamuelConcepcion 2 years ago
@tsupakagotin69 yaw mu pagaway brad.....
Heujjinhyu 1 year ago
Proto Canaanite the source of almost all writings? I don't buy it. I think the reason why they say this is because Phoenecia is close to Europe. The same as that flop theory about the origins of Bronze, according to them it started in the Mesopotamia then spread to Europe, India, China and arrived last in S.E. Asia. But when bronze artifacts were dicovered in Thailand that predated those in the Middle East, it smashed all these theories. No, not Arabs who introduced bronze to the Philippines.
subangdako 2 years ago
Books are wrong, they were written during the 19th and early 20th century by western writers. This was the height of colonialism and racism, to establish white supremacy they have to fool the world by saying that everything sophisticated in ancient India was due to the Aryans ( whites like them ), so any similarities with Southeast Asia, they give the credit to India. Filipino historians just follow it to avoid being laughed at, so now every book say that the baybayin's roots is India.
subangdako 2 years ago
White people look down on Indians as much as they look down on Filipinos... Only scientists/anthropologists consider them white...
CreaseTohPear 2 years ago
ALL linguists agree that babayin descended from Indian writing systems. It descends from the Kawi script, which originated in Java, and spread across Maritime Southeast Asia. (Indonesia, Malaysia, and THE PHILIPPINES) Yes, Kawi was also used in the Philippines. It was used most prominently on the Laguna Copperplate, which effectively PROVED that there was in fact a sophisticated society in the Philippines before the Spanish, and pushed back the beginning of recorded Philippine history to 900 AD.
CreaseTohPear 2 years ago
Also almost all writing systems have a common origin: the Proto-Canaanite alphabet. The only living writing systems that didn't descend from it is the East Asian writing systems: Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.
CreaseTohPear 2 years ago
What proof do you have to demonstrate otherwise? If you don't have a book, then what do you have?
pathoftruth1 2 years ago
if we use this song writing the provincial/regional accents will be appreciated by tagalog because if we still use english it will still cause a problem by regional accents cause many of filipinos dont appreciate that being wrong by getting e to i o to u is a regional/provincial accent.
joesel19 2 years ago
it's possible that books are also wrong because it's also possible that the things that the indians,chinese and arabians are influenced by the filipino there is just many more findings or discoveries that will let the researchers believe that they are more influencial those times and its more believable because of the present time indians,chinese and arabians are one of the fastest growing countries and influencial ones may be the ancient filipino's writings those time were beurned by the spain.
joesel19 2 years ago
Another big clue is the worship of the sun god Ra, he is not only the deity of Egypt but his also found among the Polynesian islands, everyone knows that polynesians came from southeast asia. It's so ironic because these two people are two oceans apart, if you look at the map Southeast asia is in the middle. The wearing of the malong and head scarfs by ancient Filipinos was attributed by some as originating in India. But polynesians also wear them, and they are outside the influenced of India.
subangdako 2 years ago
Sounds unbelievable right, but i did some research and found out that the earliest Pharaohs of Egypt look nothing like the present Egyptians, in fact they look more like Filipinos. They are depicted in there statues as beardless, brown skin, brachycephalic face, and some have slight epechantic eyes which is a typical sound east asian feature. Same with India, if you look at ancient statues of Vishnu, and other hindu gods they look like southeast asians. So who influenced who here?
subangdako 2 years ago
why do filipinos think that everything in our ancient culture came from India China or Arabia? whether it be clothing, writing, or the food that we eat. Before, i use to think this way, coz that's what our history books say, until i read the book Eden in the East by Oppenheimer. According to him and other researchers Southeast Asia is the Cradle of Civilization and all the founders of the earliest kingdoms of Egypt, Summeria, India and China came from southeast asia.
subangdako 2 years ago
Enough guys.
dominicbalabat 2 years ago
whatever. I'm still firm on what I stand. Besides, does it matter anyway?
july071992 2 years ago
The reason why the Mangyans and Tagbanuas often mistake their scripts as a variation is because the Baybayin t) began to take form into different variants throughout the Philippines BUT the Mangyan and Tagbanua are still different YET closely related to the Baybayin script. Either way, the Baybayin, Mangyan and Tagbanwa scripts are different from each other. And with regards to the Ivatan, Ilokano, Cebuano styles and etc., they are just variants of the Baybayin.
july071992 2 years ago
Yep, Mangyans and Tagbanuas is a natural progression of the script.
8raysmedia 2 years ago
"* Those tribes made their own version of that style of writing that was brought to them by some of those Indonesians and Malaysians who have helped Arabs to spread Islam in the Philippines .
I think Indian influences began to flourish in the Philippines way back before they (Indonesians and Malaysians) began to introduce Islam. I think the Indonesians introduced the Baybayin WAY BEFORE they are converted to Islam.
july071992 2 years ago
Not really hard feelings.
But it's obviously biased to say just because someone from an ethnic group who is culturally related to the baybayin is ALWAYS right. I have to logically assest their claim first. And most of all, scholars had studied these things.
So, where are the sources. Why don't you prove your arguments? I mean, have you even checked out the links that I gave you?
july071992 2 years ago
You don't sound convincing. You should give me the proof (I mean tangible proof like websites or books or scholarly articles) that would prove your argument that Baybayin is the root ancestor of all Philippine scripts. Alibata is just coined by Versoza and it's erroneous.
I guess we got our info from completely different sources that we don't agree upon this topic.
july071992 2 years ago
The Arabic calligraphy that is used in the Philippines is called Jawi which is also used in Malaysia and Indonesia. It's only 2 centuries before the Magellan came that the Arabic script is introduced to the Philippines by Muslims. And most of the people who brought Islam to the Philippines are not Arabs but Malays (from Brunei and Johore Sultanates).
july071992 2 years ago
Where did you get that info? Give me the source. You're not even a scholare to say that. The Filipino Muslim you talked about doesn't deserve to be a scholar. Make sure you get your sources from books and other scholarly tools, including the internet, not from random people you meet.
july071992 2 years ago
It seems you are uber-cynical. To correct your illogical statements.
1. Hanunoo is the script of the Mangyans and Tagbanua script is the script of the Tagbanuas. BOTH are different yet related scripts to the Baybayin.
2. If you think you can write and understand Baybayin characters, then why don't you study the Brahmi and Arabic script too so that you can see the truth. Take note, I did a paper on this too and I'm definitely sure I know I lot more than you do about this script.
july071992 2 years ago
3. It seems that you are correct that the word "Baybayin" also means seashore BUT it also means another thing which is my definition as a script. Just like the word "buhay" which means "life" and "alive".
4. I don't think Chabacano uses Baybayin because Chabacano is not even an indigenous language. Rather, it's creole Spanish. I don't know why the scholars called it "Tagalog Script" but I have to guess the Tagalogs were the first one to use the "Baybayin". Either way, Baybayin is more accurate.
july071992 2 years ago
Identifying the origins of a script is not merely looking at its physical characteristics and comparing it with other foreign scripts that might look similar to the said script.
The Baybayin is of Indian Origin. Although it's plausible that the Brahmi, the script's ultimate ancestor is somehow related to the Arabic script but that's another story. That doesn't make the Baybayin as Arabic Origin either.
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july071992 2 years ago
This is the ancestry of the Baybayin script. It is also known as Tagalog script.
Brahmi (India) -> Pallava/Grantha (India) -> Kawi (Indonesia) -> Baybayin/Tagalog (Philippines)
This site proves my evidence.
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july071992 2 years ago
I never said Indians came to the Philippines, although there are possible contacts. Indian influence was indirectly introduced and adopted by natives through traders from Malaysia and Indonesia.
You're obviously biased. You should back up your statements with research. The baybayin is of indian origin. and the term Alibata is erroneous.
And no, the term "Baybayin" is not the "seashore" you're talking about. The term "Baybayin" comes from the Tagalog root word "baybay" which means "to spell".
july071992 2 years ago
and I have to correct our usage of Alibata. We should rather use the word "Baybayin" which is more accurate. Alibata is an erroneous term.
july071992 2 years ago
Alibata is of Indian origin. It's one of the most significant Indian cultural influences in our country.
july071992 2 years ago
Kawi is Old Javanese script. It's the ancestor of scripts in Bali, Sulawesi and the Philippines. Kawi is from Java ONLY.
july071992 2 years ago
Correction:
Baybayin in Tagalog (there is no such thing as a Philippine Language) means "to spell", hence fitting its status as a Philippine syllabic script.
And Kawi came from the island of Java in Indonesia, not in Malaysia. Indonesia have much more cultural influences from India than Malaysia. Indonesia is the source of all Indian influences in the Philippines and Malaysia, including the Indian scripts themselves.
july071992 2 years ago 2
Alibata is a descendant of the Kawi script (from Indonesia) which is, in turn, a descendant of the Pallava script (from India). The term Alibata is not even the right word. The right term is Baybayin. Alibata was just coined erroneously by some Filipino historian because the historian taught it looks like the Arabic script.
july071992 2 years ago
¡Un saludo! Desde el Canal de Filipinas en idioma español.
RepublicadeFilipinas 2 years ago
I got a friend who wanted to have pride tattoo on his back in alibata, but the tattoo artist who happene'd to be white did not know what pride is in tagalog, to make a long story short my friend called his Mom and asked how do say pride in tagalog, her responed was Pirito, she taught he was asking what is fried in tagalog. lol. Now he got Pinoy Pirito on his back. ahahahah.
sigreento 2 years ago
One of the best stories ever.
8raysmedia 2 years ago
@sigreento LMMFAO!!!!!!!!
salgeezy 1 year ago
@salgeezy You like that ah,lol it's realy true, my friend still got that prito on his back,lol. he refuse to show it to anyone now,lol I been trying to take a picture of it and i'll post here on youtube,lol peace
sigreento 1 year ago
what song is this?
swimmingnafshbwl 2 years ago
There was no "Philippines" before the Spaniards came, so how can you be sure that every island was using this script?
akosigundam 2 years ago
Good point but people tend to call it the ancient Philippine script (oxymoron) because there's no other name of our islands before the Spanish. I like to say pre-Philippines and pre-Filipino.
8raysmedia 2 years ago 5
pre-Philippines is politically correct BUT coining the Baybayin (as well as other scripts like the Hanunoo), in a post-colonial POV, as a Philippine script is not erroneous because its a way to distinguish these scripts from other related scripts in SE Asia like the Kawi, Lontara and Rejang scripts (which are "Indonesian" scripts). Remember, there was no Indonesia, Philippines or Malaysia right before the Europeans came when we're talking about political borders.
july071992 2 years ago
Politically speaking, there was no "Philippines" before the Spaniards came, but speaking in a post-colonial point of view, most tend to insert the term "Philippine" to distinguish from other relative scripts in Southeast Asia like Kawi, Lontara and Rejang (which are all "Indonesian" script).
july071992 2 years ago
this is a big proof that filipinos are civilized even before the spaniuards came. Spaniards are so imprudent and totally rudee upon saying that filipinos are idiots. this is real SPANIARDS ARE IDIOTS
cuteasian2007 2 years ago
Not evey Filipino was using this script. In fact, I doubt if there was ever a Philippines per se back then. The Spaniards were idiots, but we owe them a lot; for starters, there would've been no Filipino identity without them
akosigundam 2 years ago
We had an identity back then. It's the Spaniards that made our identity recognizable.
july071992 2 years ago
Correction: identities. I just hate it when Tagalog imperialists impose their culture and language on others. Wouldn't that be historical revisionism already? But I digress.
Not only did Spain make our identities recognizable, they also - accidentaly or not - gave us a single identity which we now embrace as Filipino. Don't you agree?
akosigundam 2 years ago
I can see your sentiments but I'm not talking about TAGALOG IMPERIALISM here. What I meant was we had identities back then. The thing is, it's not Filipino. It's Cebuano, Ilokano, Tagalog, Bikolano, Ilonggo, Waray, etc. Politically, Spain and the USA united us and molded our identity as Filipinos. But still these ethnic mentality exists in almost every Filipino, possibly as a backlash against Tagalog Imperialism? So to answer your question: NO I don't agree.
july071992 2 years ago
Exactly my point. Filipino identity is an artificial construct, currently used as a front for Tagalog identity. We've been too obsessed on sticking with a single language, single culture, and single heritage that we've left all the others in the periphery. Not only that, but we try to eliminate these regionalisms. It infuriates me whenever Visayans are made fun of in pop culture, or when one is told "Kung hindi ka marunong managalog, hindi ka Pilipino."
akosigundam 2 years ago
I share your point. This is also exactly what I have in mind. I guess it's because Manila, a Tagalog-speaking place, is the capital and the center of media, politics and industry of the Philippines, that Tagalog identity became Filipino identity. But I also have to say that some persons other regional ethnic groups are also promoting Tagalog imperialism because they're naive. You cannot blame this phenomenon to all Tagalog people.
july071992 2 years ago
And I'm not talking about Filipino identity in my previous posts. I'm talking about the use of the word "Philippine" to correctly describe the Baybayin as "our" script as far as territorial and political circumstances are concerned. Spain might have gave us an identity but, on a subconscious level, we still identify according to our respective mother tongues or regions of origin.
july071992 2 years ago
"I just hate it when Tagalog imperialists impose their culture and language on others."
The fact that Tagalistas are imposing their language on non-Tagalogs are true. But with regards on the cultural enforcement, I don't think so. I mean, for example, I grew up in an Ilokano province and we don't celebrate the Lenten Season by doing pasyon, unlike what you see in the Tagalog regions.
july071992 2 years ago
we filipinos should study, value and learn our own......let us not the other people change our ways go back to baybayin or at least keep it.
study it in filipino subject use everyday with roman letter
krisangel93 2 years ago
dapat mag aral taung mga pinoy sa sarili nating letra,
nopah1990 2 years ago
ito ang atin... ito ang 2nay n Letra ng Lahing Filipino...
kya dpt imulat ang 2 mata at suriin ng mbute ang bwat pahina ng ating nkaraan, wg nting tlikuran o kalimutan ang 2nay n ating pnanggalingan!! my srile tyon atin, my srile tyong wika!
kun hnd dhl s mpngsmantalang mga tao ay, sna mgnda at hnd nbura ang sriling atin...kya dpt mging proud tyo at wg ipgswalang bahala ang lumipas at kultura ng ating lupang sinilangan asan k mang sulok ng MUNDO, Filipino Numero Uno s buong MUNDO...
StilongKayumanggi206 2 years ago
wow!!! i love this.. thanks!! i was always dreaming someday we will be using this instead of the roman alphabet.. see? meron pala tayong sariling atin.. wow kay ganda. at ang musika perfect.
Filbisaya 2 years ago 4
Yun nga lang sariling wika ay hindi magamit eh! ...ito pa.
Kung sa Kano ito galing maniniwala ako na magiging hit ito.
redsoil5 2 years ago
@Filbisaya ako rin matagal ko n rin gustong magamit yan ng lahat ng pinoy!
Heujjinhyu 1 year ago
@Heujjinhyu
YAY
iisang pangarap
iisang mithiin
iisang wika
iisang BAYAN!
DemonMayCare 1 year ago
I think Baybayin is such a beautiful script. In fact, it would be great if the Philippines revert back to this writing system. I'm from Indonesia and we also have lots of obsolete traditional scripts, but the problem is, we have too many different kinds of scripts - it's hard to determine which one should be regarded as the 'national' script. I think languages that are written using its traditional scripts are just wonderful, e.g. Thai, Burmese, Hindi, etc...
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fantasticpink18 3 years ago
bahasa jawi satu bahasa satu nusantara
ODK1413 3 years ago
This is so amazing!!!
LOVE it!!!
Listen, I am Korean and I love the Philippines!!
My best friend since 9 years is half pinay.
In this world, there are over 4000 languages.
Only of which less than 100 have their own writing system.
This shows the ancient filippino culture is very distinct and unique.
A unique and own writing system is a huge cultural asset.
All my respect and love from Korea to the Philippines.
seoulsugar2008 3 years ago 13
--->A unique and own writing system is a huge cultural asset.
very touching thanks
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Filbisaya 2 years ago
my bro got a huge alibata tattoo on his right arm. and its our family name on it.
alibata writengs is our ancestral. restore alibata... thnks.
kumakaun 3 years ago 2
i know alibata i learned it last week the technique of learning it is write out all the alibata and memorize it then translate some english sentences to tagalog and then alibata
hc888777 3 years ago
cool vid. whats alibata?
mzxd33 3 years ago
albata is an ancient (old )script that long time used by filipino's before the Spanish came
sk3terb0y 3 years ago 5
it looks like my language!
i'm a tamil from sri lanka
GanjaBhai 3 years ago
lols its actually a mix of ancient Chinese and Moslem script from what i read somehere...
sk3terb0y 3 years ago
i think it's more related to indian languages, i was readin up, and it has similarities to brahmi/pallava scripts, used in india, sri lanka, cambodia, thailand, laos
GanjaBhai 3 years ago
Baybayin or Alibata is a pre-Spanish Philippine writing system that originated from the Javanese script Old Kawi. The writing system is a member of the Brahmic familyand is believed to have been in use as early as the 14th century.[1] It continued in use during the Spanish colonization of the Philippines up until the late 19th Century. The term baybayin literally means syllables. Closely related scripts are Hanunóo, Buhid, and Tagbanwa.
sk3terb0y 3 years ago
yeee, that's wicked bro, i knew there was a connection, if you look at letters from thai, khmai, and even south indian langauges like telugu, and tamil, you'll see some similarities
yeeeeee bwoy!!! asian connectionz!!!
GanjaBhai 3 years ago 4
southeast asian connection bro!!!!
tsupakagotin69 3 years ago
4 sho!!
GanjaBhai 3 years ago
...yeah they really related!!!.. coz' ancient maritime trade existed there....
jaysonvillaruz 3 years ago
....THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!! It is just relates to arabic,hindu,java,lao,cambofian,etc....from QUESTS OF THE DRAGON AND BIRD CLAN,...we may say that it was first originated in the philippines!!!!
jaysonvillaruz 3 years ago
whats not true? whats QUESTS OF THE DRAGON AND BIRD CLAN
sk3terb0y 3 years ago
yeah its true....because in ancient times many Dilipinos migrated there(quests of the dragon and bird clan)
jaysonvillaruz 3 years ago
I love that cap. :)
I've actually seen this before. Thank you for sharing it! Like VANNESSAAashley88 (comment below) I would love to know certain characters for possible tattoo design. :)
annspade 3 years ago
i love being filipino!!
S1M9L3 3 years ago 2
Great info on our culture! Thanks!!!
bykrgrl17 3 years ago 2
how do you write "CORREA" in baybayin? its my last name and I want to get it tattoo'd! thanks!
VANNESSAashley88 3 years ago
Correa - UlYWqqIu&8@)^$!! (this is how you write your name lol)
isangbobongpinoy 3 years ago
i dont get it,
people say where mixed and have malay infuences chinese and spanish,
but recently study showed filipinos closest ancestry is the same as taiwans?
wierd eh?
maybe you guys are wrong where we really came from?
kpkopo 3 years ago
o.16,kapehana wtf is that supposed to be?lol i learned alibata in 2 hours gling ko no?
HIM666dark6light 3 years ago
it'a all so cooooooooooool!! awesome, dudes
mercato92704 3 years ago
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how do you write "fuck me" in baybayin? i need to know cuz actually i was planning on getting it tattooed, lol
yndarjabelo 3 years ago
if you small dick, no one will tell you lol
Sublime650 3 years ago
LOL
sk3terb0y 3 years ago
blog ni Manansala!!!!!!!! search u kea yun!!!!! there u will see the influences of ancient nusantao to the world.
jaysonvillaruz 3 years ago
this is one strong evidence of our strong indianized culture before the coming of spain.
miguelsirusibin 3 years ago 3
vveeerry cool! I like the song too 5*
moxiebrisco 3 years ago 2
it is not called "Alibata", although still taken as true but not accepted as the standard name. It is called "Baybayin"
jie2se7en 3 years ago
Ive been to the Philippines three times now.
Humid Heat, Its so hot and warm in the Philippines.
ArsonHQ 3 years ago
Awesome Video.
Some Of My Family
Speaks Talalog.
ArsonHQ 3 years ago
alam nyu gusto ko gumawa ng nobela na ganito ang lengwahe alibata kahit kulng kulng ang mga letra gagawin ko kahit mahirap...
astralworld12 4 years ago
correction lang hindi lengwahe ang alibata it is a system of writing
adjutant08 3 years ago
aw uunga hindi lengwahe sa sulat ba ibig kong sabhin kase pag nabasa nang mga tao mag tataka lahat sila san ko nakuha yang mga letra na yan,sasabihin nila sang lengwahe ko nakuha yan pero di nila alam lumang katutubong pilipino pala nanggaling yung mga letrang yan ahehehe : )
astralworld12 3 years ago
what's the name of this song?
justaguy230 4 years ago
noypi: by bambo
tsupakagotin69 4 years ago
i love this song
juicydoubles 4 years ago
i agree though, we should stufy more of our baybayin scripts, and hopefully in the future we may bring back our true pre hispanic origins.
bdoi 4 years ago
pls give your basis that we have mexican blood, are you implying the filipinos have a mayan culture? hispanic yes because of the occupation, mexican? you must be confused.
bdoi 4 years ago
The Spanish should publicly APOLOGIZE for occupying the philippines and for exploiting our peopl and bastardizing our race as well as our culture. till this day many filipinos are mistaken with our history and many think that there isnt a PRE HISPANIC history way before the occupying spanish. wake up filipinos we are not spanish let us fight this colonial slavery which plagues us till this day.
bdoi 4 years ago
It is very important to study these wrtings before they are use. So out of respect "PLEASE read books and do some resaerch before using these ancient writings. The last thing we want to do is basterdize them for what it really means. SALAMAT
deviousMonk 4 years ago
What do you think will "bastardize" the script?
kissnewmedia 4 years ago
What im seeing is alot of overusing and exploitation of alibata this can lead to misinterpretation. All of a sudden its cool to have Alibata tatoo, or translate names or word online and print them on a media without fully researching its translation and its authenticity. Im not saying that people should stop getting alibata taoos im just saying do some intensive research, consult with Alibata scholars before using them.
deviousMonk 4 years ago
I agree and think the 1st step is to stop using Alibata because it's the wrong term. We should be using Baybayin.
kissnewmedia 4 years ago
sorry devious.. there you go again.. its actually called baybayin. *inuman na ;)
bdoi 4 years ago
I wish I spoke my mom's language (Visayan) so I can leave my comment in her language. :) I had no idea there was a Filipino form of writing! I would love that hat! :D Thanks for sharing the video!
annspade 4 years ago 3
ganda nung bull cap san mo nabili yun brod?
Hooyahh 4 years ago
alibata was taught to us when i was in grade 6 i think....but it was not really given that much importance....but i really like it...i tried to write in alibata before...but i already forgot it now since we are not really using it these days....
zohaila 4 years ago 2