the only time you want a mac is if you are ONLY doing video & music editing. PC's aren't much better, the things are designed (oldest buisiness trick going) to go wrong/slow to a crawl after a while, so you have to reinstall the OS
Brits don't like showing off, fuss, smugness, cockiness, we like things simple and strong but mostly cheap, like Pie and Chips, so Mac's are only really for people we call 'tossers'
@MegaMrDamo Couldn't have said it better, other than we don't like it cheap but we dont want to pay too much for what is essentially a shiney PC thats primarily made for "tossers"
Why don't you look and read comments properly before sending moronic questions?..if you had done so you'd have noticed I put " comedians " ,.which tells anyone with half a brain( don't include yourself ), that I don't actually regard them as comedians.
@spacecowboy7580 I agree with with Russell Howard, but i love Peep Show and That Michell and Webb Look too much to agree with Robert. May I add Ross Noble to the not funny comedians list?
It is funny how the British and Americans are similar and yet so different.
American adverts are all about hyperbole and being 'the best'. British adverts have to be more subtle because it sounds like boasting which is culturally considered vulgar.
As a result our adverts have to be ironic. Saying something is good, but really subtly. Like marmite advertising 'you love it or you hate it'. An ad actually highlighting that some people hate it!
They failed in this country because they happened just after they became known for Peep Show, where Mitchell was kind of downtrodden underdog always being hopelessly out of luck, and Webb was the smug arrogant one always suggesting and doing stupid things and being ignorant, so people associated those characters with the ones in the adverts.
The PC we automatically accept with the traditional British past time of queuing and filling in forms, being a mild inconvenience. And like complaining about the weather, it's turned into 'my internet/laptop/mobile's rubbish. And if something works someone will break it by dropping it or spilling something on it and go "but it breaks really easily! My old one was way better!"
@arr5612 I think he's more like Jeremy than Mark. Robert seems like the 'cool' one, to the extent that either Mitchell or Webb (or Mark and Jez) can be considered 'cool'.
@UnaccountablySelfy I think what he meant was that the original american advert idea of the mac person and the pc person doesn't work in the UK, hence the 'American's don't get it about us.' I might be wrong though.
@fabledpilgrim He's saying that a British person would naturally side with Microsoft - the dorky underdog character - in those ads (and that Apple would come across as unbearably smug and trivial). Supposedly, Americans see it differently - or at least in the world of marketing.
@kisbie I've seen all of the American and English adverts for the Mac vs PC. The adverts, though portraying similar messages in similar manners, are drastically different in effect. The joke here mentions what many - including myself - see what is a rather inept method of selling a product, as they portray a Microsoft PC as the 'likable underdog'. The original ad campain instead has the PC actor portrayed as someone jealous, angry and flawed, whereas the Mac is trying to help out.
@kisbie To be fair, most savvy Americans had learned to piece a PC together from parts earlier and just updated the rigs. Mac's basic concept was all about the smug factor. They didn't use PC parts, PC software, anything that was universal save for, eventually, the USB port.
So you understand it better when you realize that the Mac ads were, primarily, to attract the smug, arrogant asses that couldn't be bothered with a normal computer, regardless of their actual quality.
@fabledpilgrim No, the English adapted the advert (with their own actors and their own lines) to attune them better to English culture and sense of humor. Plenty of ad campaings redo, dub over, recast or change the scripts of advertising campains to appeal to different nations and patriotisms. In this case, the joke is that the English rescripts did not exactly give the intended message of the ad campaign, as the bumbling Microsoft PC was accidentally seen as more likable than the obnoxious Mac.
the only time you want a mac is if you are ONLY doing video & music editing. PC's aren't much better, the things are designed (oldest buisiness trick going) to go wrong/slow to a crawl after a while, so you have to reinstall the OS
martinmerrywinkle 1 week ago
Macs are fucking expensive
rayblack2004 2 weeks ago
@rayblack2004: ...as fuck!
ScreamingAtOwls 1 week ago
@rayblack2004 but arguably worth it as they last longer than PCs.
LemonZeppelin 5 days ago
Brits don't like showing off, fuss, smugness, cockiness, we like things simple and strong but mostly cheap, like Pie and Chips, so Mac's are only really for people we call 'tossers'
MegaMrDamo 4 weeks ago
@MegaMrDamo
Don't speak on my countries' behalf. Macs are really good computers.
knucklesamidge 3 weeks ago
@MegaMrDamo Ive never used a Mac, but since Douglas Adams and Stephen Fry swear (and swore) by them, I have to support them.
wimpylassiter2336 3 weeks ago
@MegaMrDamo Couldn't have said it better, other than we don't like it cheap but we dont want to pay too much for what is essentially a shiney PC thats primarily made for "tossers"
mukers 2 weeks ago
Charlie Brooker made this exact point in a Guardian article when it came out.
estebanrey 1 month ago
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spacecowboy7580 1 month ago
@spacecowboy7580 since when was russel grant a comedian?
galieo2007 2 weeks ago
@galieo2007
Why don't you look and read comments properly before sending moronic questions?..if you had done so you'd have noticed I put " comedians " ,.which tells anyone with half a brain( don't include yourself ), that I don't actually regard them as comedians.
spacecowboy7580 2 weeks ago
@spacecowboy7580 I agree with with Russell Howard, but i love Peep Show and That Michell and Webb Look too much to agree with Robert. May I add Ross Noble to the not funny comedians list?
toolworks 2 weeks ago
@toolworks
Yes..and Lenny Henry.
spacecowboy7580 1 week ago
It is funny how the British and Americans are similar and yet so different.
American adverts are all about hyperbole and being 'the best'. British adverts have to be more subtle because it sounds like boasting which is culturally considered vulgar.
As a result our adverts have to be ironic. Saying something is good, but really subtly. Like marmite advertising 'you love it or you hate it'. An ad actually highlighting that some people hate it!
perfacetus 1 month ago 16
They failed in this country because they happened just after they became known for Peep Show, where Mitchell was kind of downtrodden underdog always being hopelessly out of luck, and Webb was the smug arrogant one always suggesting and doing stupid things and being ignorant, so people associated those characters with the ones in the adverts.
TalesOfWar 1 month ago
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the american ads were better but them two were a treat, ps MAC FTW :3
comedypros 2 months ago
The PC we automatically accept with the traditional British past time of queuing and filling in forms, being a mild inconvenience. And like complaining about the weather, it's turned into 'my internet/laptop/mobile's rubbish. And if something works someone will break it by dropping it or spilling something on it and go "but it breaks really easily! My old one was way better!"
Yes, we're really like that.
Seyth7 3 months ago 2
Put the whole episode up!
JamieHilland 3 months ago
@JamieHilland learn to youtube
LahmariS 3 months ago 2
If the advert had Mitchell as the Mac it'd have worked a lot better I'm sure ^_^
j0shissocoollike 3 months ago
@j0shissocoollike but mitchell is seen as the more nerdy one
bazzaboy45 1 month ago
The irony is, the adverts were based off their peep show characters, whereas in reality webb is not much like jeremy and a lot like mark.
arr5612 5 months ago 2
@arr5612 I think he's more like Jeremy than Mark. Robert seems like the 'cool' one, to the extent that either Mitchell or Webb (or Mark and Jez) can be considered 'cool'.
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Tokyorosebiz 6 months ago
But it's an american ad campaign, they just used Mitchell and Webb for the British version...
UnaccountablySelfy 7 months ago
@UnaccountablySelfy I think what he meant was that the original american advert idea of the mac person and the pc person doesn't work in the UK, hence the 'American's don't get it about us.' I might be wrong though.
fabledpilgrim 5 months ago 56
@fabledpilgrim He's saying that a British person would naturally side with Microsoft - the dorky underdog character - in those ads (and that Apple would come across as unbearably smug and trivial). Supposedly, Americans see it differently - or at least in the world of marketing.
kisbie 5 months ago 141
@kisbie I've seen all of the American and English adverts for the Mac vs PC. The adverts, though portraying similar messages in similar manners, are drastically different in effect. The joke here mentions what many - including myself - see what is a rather inept method of selling a product, as they portray a Microsoft PC as the 'likable underdog'. The original ad campain instead has the PC actor portrayed as someone jealous, angry and flawed, whereas the Mac is trying to help out.
CeltiaWindsinger 3 months ago 7
@kisbie To be fair, most savvy Americans had learned to piece a PC together from parts earlier and just updated the rigs. Mac's basic concept was all about the smug factor. They didn't use PC parts, PC software, anything that was universal save for, eventually, the USB port.
So you understand it better when you realize that the Mac ads were, primarily, to attract the smug, arrogant asses that couldn't be bothered with a normal computer, regardless of their actual quality.
Like abbey crunch.
Raventoll 1 week ago
@fabledpilgrim No, the English adapted the advert (with their own actors and their own lines) to attune them better to English culture and sense of humor. Plenty of ad campaings redo, dub over, recast or change the scripts of advertising campains to appeal to different nations and patriotisms. In this case, the joke is that the English rescripts did not exactly give the intended message of the ad campaign, as the bumbling Microsoft PC was accidentally seen as more likable than the obnoxious Mac.
CeltiaWindsinger 3 months ago 12
Why did this make sense?
NLFonsseals 7 months ago