Time To Wake Up By Chuck Smith - Part 5

[triphopcowboy]

The enemy is not here he is elswhere.

Be thankful and share the good news.

[rkg62976]

Dispensational futurists are inconsistent in using the day=year principle. They use it for Dan.9:24-27 (as they should; although they begin at the wrong start date and with the wrong decree from Artaxerxes), but they don't use the day=year principle with the 1260 day time prophecies (Dan.7:25, 12:7; Rev.11:2,3, 12:6,14, 13:5). *See John Gill's Commentary below.

Disp.Futurists attempt to blend the 70th week of Daniel with the 1260 days, when, in fact, they have NOTHING to do with one another.

[rkg62976]

"...forty two months, reckoning a day for a year, after the prophetic style, make 1260 years; which is the exact time of the witnesses prophesying in sackcloth, of the church's being hid and nourished in the wilderness(Rev.12:6-17), and of the beast's reign (Rev.13:1-10), and so of the holy city being trodden under foot..." [John Gill (1748), Commentary on Rev.11:2]

Dr. Gill recognized correctly that the 1260 days, 42 months...represented literal YEARS: 1260 YEARS! Not 3.5 years.

[meyaxshavat]

wow truly make sence to me,why some will stay and some will be taken away

[HonYsT24]

These videos are wonderful. I have yet to find a church that teaches these facts. Guess Im having church after all!!!! smile

[moserstore]

Amen!

[rkg62976]

I know Chuck is a sincere man, but this is dispensationalism at its worst. Russia and Iran? Maybe China? 'Gog' and 'Magog' do not mean these places. Chuck is turning into a war-monger! The word 'gog' simply means 'the enemies of God's people', the word 'magog' means, 'from the matrix (womb) of gog'. There is nothing about Russia, or Iran, anywhere in Ez.38. Rather, this passage is symbolic of the destruction that will come upon all the wicked. Rev. 20 parallels this.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 You may find some scriptural answers in Chuck Misslers studies of the End Times, Revelation, the Book of Daniel. You are in error over the countries not being named. God gave the tribal locations as names constantly change thru the centuries, location does not. It does name these countries, enjoy the studies.

[rkg62976]

@luettem My friend, the false teachings of dispensational futurism has clouded millions of Christian's judgment concerning the end times. Their "gap theory" clouds the true teachings found in Daniel and Revelation. To have an accurate understanding of "Gog" and "Magog" one must have an accurate view of the millennium, found in Rev.20. I assure you, Chuck Smith does not present the accurate, Biblical teaching of the millennium.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 The angel visiting Mary told her, your son will rule on Davids thrown,There is coming a thousand year millennium. Christ will indeed rule on the earth, as it is said over and over, even the Lords prayer says, YOUR KINGDOM COME.....to assume otherwise, calls God a liar. But then many prefer not to believe God said exactly what He means. The idea of countries named from areas, is not hard. But if you are speaking of the demons that control areas, yes there are.

[rkg62976]

@luettem Dispensational futurists assert:

1) That the rapture and 2nd Advent are separate events, and that they are separated by a 7 yr. period of tribulation. This is a false interpretation based upon a misreading of Dan.9:24-27, specifically verse 27. The rapture and the 2nd Advent are indeed the SAME EVENT!

2) Because they don't have a biblical view of the rapture/2nd Advent, they can't properly interpret Rev.20 and the millennial reign.

*Like to discuss further?

[luettem]

@rkg62976 Ah, fortunatly, this does not affect salvation, and is something believers can discuss on the way up. The catching away is a different event, as Christ comes in the air, we are caught up to forever be with Him, the coming to rule and reign is Christ returning to the earth, He as already been crowned King, by the assembly in heaven, opened the 7 scrolls as King, but I do not spend much time on this subject. As I prefer to speak to those who are lost. take care,

[rkg62976]

@luettem Then don't start debates you can't finish. Indeed, the Lord has given you eyes, but you cannot see. It appears that you have not even read, or studied the Scripture verses I gave you. I've refuted: 1) a pre-trib. rapture, 2) a 7 yr. period of tribulation, 3) your fallacious view of the millennium, 4) the dispensational futurist view of the 1260 days (which the great Protestant Reformers viewed as DAY=YEAR).

[luettem]

@rkg62976 I most certainly could "finish" the dabate, but I preferred to give you a study in length that explains why you believe what you do. I don't have time. I am dealing with several people who do not even know Him. You presumably are saved. There really isnt much time left, and I might suggest your time would be better spent on the lost as well. Considering this is our mandate. God bless

[rkg62976]

@luettem "I most certainly could "finish" the dabate..." Apparently not, since you seem to have no reverence for the truth of God's prophetic Word. And if you're witnessing to the lost, will they learn your false prophetic system? Do you want to be held responsible for teaching, and leading people to erroneous teachings?

[rkg62976]

@luettem We see clearly that the rapture and 2nd Advent are the same event:

Mt.13:24-30,36-43-- Notice who are "taken first"?

Mt.24:36-41 (Lk.17:26-37)-- those who are "taken", are the wicked who are slain at the 2nd Advent. The righteous are the ones "left behind" to be "changed" (1Cor.15:51-53), and "caught up" (1Thes.4:16-17) when Jesus "receives them" (Jn.14:1-3).

2nd Advent in Rev.19: *Notice there are two "suppers"? 1) in heaven (saints), 2) on earth the birds will eat dead bodies.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 For further study, you might consider Perry Stones teaching "in Defence of the rapture" for a more informative study on the Word, and much of the Hebrew meaning lost to a western audience. However, again, I dont plan on spending much time on this issue. As it does not affect salvation, and more important issues prevail.

[rkg62976]

@luettem Perry Stone is another dispensational futurist. He, Chuck Smith, Chuck Missler, Hal Lindsay, John MacArthur...and many others teach the same dispensational futurist fallacies. I've refuted Mr. Stone many times, and he just doesn't listen! Indeed, God has hardened their hearts to listen to the truth. Don't let it happen to you; you have a chance to learn the truth....right now!

[luettem]

@rkg62976 no offence, but who has their heart hardened might surprise someday. like I said, you can discuss it on the way up.

[rkg62976]

@luettem If an elder in the Church teaches false prophecy, logically, what does that make him? In other words, what do we call a man who teaches false prophecy?

[luettem]

@rkg62976 or possibly what if a person has ignored the truth, misinterpreted the Word, and then attacks believers? What do you call them? Even Enoch saw the rapture of the Church before tribulaion, and assuming he is not a liar, and God did seem to like him alot, maybe your point is actually mute. If you wish to debate a doctinal issue I dont have the time.

[rkg62976]

@luettem At least I make my assertions plain, whereas you use the deceptive approach. I have given you ample Scripture citations, for which you have provided no response.

Gen.5:24-- Enoch can be paralleled with all the saints who live through the destruction of the wicked at Christ's 2nd Advent. Again, you're not addressing the real issue: the 2nd Advent and the rapture are the SAME EVENT! Please come up with some actual arguments against my assertions.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 in the time it took you to get back, I have been dealing with three lost people, one more time, if you want to argue doctrine, then possibly you should read what Paul says about that subject. I gave you a rational and complete study as to why much of the "church' does not believe in the rapture, end of story. I am busy.

[rkg62976]

@luettem Once again! You have provided absolutely no response to: 1) the exegesis I provided of Mt.13:24-30,36-43; 24:36-42; Lk.17:26-37; Jn.14:1-3; 1Thes.4:16-17; 1Cor.15:51-53; Rev.19 or 20, and 2) you have not even attempted to respond to my assertion that the 2nd Advent and the rapture are the same event. I can see why dispensational futurists won't debate their position in public moderated debates....because they would lose!

You have been provided TRUTH, and have ignored it....Sad.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 And once again, you prefer to argue doctrine, no taker here. Maybe you should study Jesus and the apostles, to see what a life in Christ is supposed to become. Good luck.

[rkg62976]

@luettem Would Jesus and the apostles tolerate false doctrine to be brought into the Church? Is not the Old Testament filled with talk about what happens to those who teach false prophecy, and lead others into their false teachings? Seems your reverence for God's prophetic Word is of low priority in your Christian walk. Perhaps you should be asking me questions instead of "bearing false witness".

You have been thoroughly rebuked for your fallacies!

[luettem]

@rkg62976 yes it is, and dare say you ,may personally find out you are quite wrong, but I wont become embroiled in what appears to be a spirit of argumentation, when I have more pressing things to do with what little time is left. If you didnt have Christ I might spend all the time in the world on you, but again, false doctrine may be something very personal to yourself.

[rkg62976]

@luettem Wrong about what? If you do not point out my errors, are you not neglecting love? Love is speaking the truth; love is not: being unresponsive to truth. And if you think I'm in error, as a Christian brother, are you not supposed to correct me?

You seem to think false doctrine (eschatology, in particular) is an "amoral" thing; but the Bible clearly affirms that it is an "immoral" thing.

[luettem]

@rkg62976 Wrong about "what"? You have not rightly divided the Word of God, and then expect people to become embroiled in your misinterpretation and take time away from the mandate given to accomodate your falicy. Why should anyone continue to debate you? you preach what the church under state rule decided to preach, and ignored earlier teaching, the Word, both old and new testement, and fell into false doctrine. Enoch even saw the rapture, and wrote it plainly, I will not write you again.

[rkg62976]

@luettem The false accusations, and bearing false witness is astounding! Again, if you don't point out my errors, then you have absolutely no basis upon which to assert anything about whether I am teaching falsehoods or not. Yes, please quit responding, because you are obviously stuck in your false traditions of dispensational futurism as promulgated by the unbiblical "non-denomination" denomination of Calvary Chapel, which has no Biblical ecclesiological structure.

Rebuked, again!

[belugafishgod]

Judgement day is sooner than you might think. Let's say that Jesus' Second coming will be a million years in the future. The apostle paul said that death is like little sleep and then we will face our maker. Judgement day is a little sleep past death. I myself will not live another 40 years at most. For me I know that Judgement day will occur in less than what would seem like 40 or fewer years. That is not a long time to prepare.

[billybobwhite1]

chuck smith is a false prophet,and calvary chapel is a cult! their doctrine is way off. i pray that all people who are members of calvary chapels,will do their research,and leave. god bless!

[darsal123]

If chuck smith is wrong in his doctrine go and face him, don't "chiken out" Be strong, but do not saw seeds of discord without a base because you will betalking against God's annoited, Becareful. I know this ministry for more than 20 years and I juest disgree with 1 thing, but on the essentials, Salvation only through Jesus, Jesus resurection, virgin birth, 2nd comming, He is totatally Biblical!

[indianbiker777]

Praise the FATHER GOD!!! shockofgod that's when you know that you are on the right track, JESUS said that they will hate you, cause of MY name... put on the whole armor of GOD!!!!

[shockofgod]

I am wide awake I have left atheism and am now a Christian. Already getting harassed on youtube, the bible is true.

[Terri3210]

Welcome

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Ready to fight:

Calvinism is sending men off to hell

its spreading on you tube like cancer.

Soul Salvation is Guarded From Men and tell them God made them for hell.. sick lies..

[Daniel2131990]

@shockofgod Me Too getting all kinds of Hate Speech on Me. The Bible is not old but new .We are in the last days before are savior returns. I can see very clearly what is happening.

[sh3rv]

@shockofgod Hi, Just read your post, i hope you are still walking with Jesus, i have followed him now for over 10 years and he has never done me wrong.

The Atheists will hound you like vicious biting rodents, but know the more they bite the further away you are from them.

Peace.

[shockofgod]

@sh3rv yes always will never turn my back on Him. The world has nothing to offer comparable to Christ. God bless you.

[Terri3210]

We are commissioned to keep watch and know what time it is.

Birth pangs of the one world government via the New World Order is obvious to us what time it is; as the Antichrist will emerge out of the one world government. Look up Church Jesus is coming very soon.

[iconoclast911]

Churches like this one, CC, will comply with the anti christ's orders, and will direct their flocks to obey the NWO demands to give up our guns, take vaccines (lethal), and even take an RFID chip. Romans 13 will be employed to herd the people into FEMA extermination camps. These pastors are sold out gutless millionairs with a lot to lose.

[markwmcl]

Wake up brothers! Let's take the Word to the lost! Love you Pastor (Papa) Chuck!

[gr8god2]

What a wake up call!!!!! Thanks so much for the reminder!

A sleeping guard "coming"