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  • sand will make any mechanical device fail. I will take the ergonomic, naturally pointing HK any day over an ergonomically retarded Glock. Glocks fail as much as any reliable design, google it.

  • all guns fail, this is pointless

  • @aaronscrewme, fuck you pole smoker..

  • Funny how the FLUCK! had the same ftf issues early on and now at vid 30 when the hk has the same problems it i less reliable. It takes low intelligence and a childish mind to buy into this bullshit. "BUT GLQUAK!!!!! Iz profeshonal and dall buzniss." Oh fuck you.

  • WOW you glocklamists are extremely stupid. WHERE THE FUCK DID THE HK COME FROM?!?!?! You guys are so lost in your band bullshit that you think the hk was running along with the glock in the questionably sequenced "torture tests" and lost against the glock. I'm not kidding look at the stupidity of the comments. "GLOCK WINNING!" Grow the fuck up.

  • Glock....Winning!

  • goggle glock failures or kaboom or piece of shit glock is not even in the same legue as hk ,sig,f&n its like compareing a exotic supercar to a gt but i dont know maybe this one video test is why hk has the largets pistol contract ever the hk p30 or maybe because they shot over 91 ,000 rounds through it maybe that won the contract just saying they are not even in the same legue alough glock is a good plinker or begginer gun so glock is like a honda evry 1 has one just like little sheep HK lead

  • @hurley242584 honda=reliability not a good refrence and yes hk and f&n are of higher quality but the fact is u get a glock and a hk treat them like hell they still work and i speak from experience i own hk and a glock and sigs rust sports cars dont

  • @hurley242584 Here's a tip dummy, why dont you goggle H&K Kaboom and Sig Kaboom, all guns fail tard, its up to you to keep it running, and i would much rather pay $500 for a pistol that will never let me down then pay $900 for a pistol that will not let me down, you want to pay top $ for the best of the best gun go ahead, it will look good in your bedroom for the next 10 yrs till you go broke and pawn it, most of us use ours gun in jobs and dont need to be tacticool.

  • @M4land2c I would rather buy a $900 gun that fits my handgun than a $500 gun that feels horrible in my hand. I personally don't like Glocks for that reason but they are still superb guns. I just like SIGs better, the P220 notably. Your comment about him paying more for the gun and going broke is wrong, if you are out of money and have to sell things than its not because you spent an extra $400 on a gun, its because you have either terribel spending habits or a terrible job or even unemployment.

  • sure is fail troll in here...

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  • I HATE EVERYONE!!!

    JUST KIDDING (or was i)

  • is this video just for trolling and fighting cause i want in!

  • the smart people have spoken who gives a damn. it is personal but when glock starts making more than just pistols , then they can be compared to H&K but we all know that when you specialize in only one thing you had better be good at it.

  • Jesus, who lit the fuse on your guys' tampons? Everybody has different tastes in guns, to say one gun is better than another is a matter of taste and opinion unless talking about material quality. Although I would like to see a 1911 function with a pound of sand packed into it.

  • @Christopher71488 highpoints are the best

  • @Alexn1067, you can take your opinion and shove it up your fucking ass along with your 1911.

  • @Alexn1067, you have said your peace. If you like a 1911, good for you..enjoy. If you don't like Glocks, that's your problem. As well as your loss.

  • get so tired of the "GLOCKS ONLY" guys. just shows ignorance.

  • GLOCKS OWN.

  • The best sidearm ever invented ! I was in the military when they first hit the market and as the world knows it simply changed everything. I was shocked when I saw a 1911 fail a simple mud test.

    there are a few diehard 1911 fans still around but they are usually

    living in denial of the fact that Glocks are far superior

    to their weapon of choice. Each and every time they test 1911's they

    fail and are embarased compared to a Glock. Ever notice there are

    zero 1911 torture test on utube ? wonder why

  • @Glassblower718 I would rather carry a 1911 over a Glock, Has better ergonomics than the Block. Would rather carry my Hi Power overall.

  • @AdmiralGST how does a 1911 have better ergonomics? because it has an external safety and a grip safety? in my opinion less is more. having to take time to fuck with the safety could get you killed in a defensive situation. with so much adrenaline running through you, you might even forget it was on. and i think grip safeties are just plain unnecessary, even though i like 1911's. 1911's are also much heavier, which is a minus for a carry gun. i dont see the "better ergonomics" though.

  • @bearsfan1294 Swiping the safety off becomes instinct so thats not a problem. I hate the ergonomics of the Glock. A Glock 23 was annoying to shoot, I prefer my Hi Power over that thing. One story a 70 marine veteran shot and killed a criminal robbing a shop using a compact .45 1911. He says he doesn't even remember swiping the safety off. It becomes as instinctual as pulling the trigger. If its too heavy than to bad, be a man about it. The Hi Power and 1911 full size are great CCW pieces.

  • @AdmiralGST preference is preference is the point i was trying to make but i wasnt saying theyre bad for ccw

  • @AdmiralGST thats just preference. im not saying anything is better than the other for ccw

  • @Glassblower718 I do agree its a really good pistol but I just don't like them.

  • The thing about HK is their Magazine Release sucks huge cock.

  • @xRapidDavex Thank you for that very thoughtful criticism -_- The HK release is awesome if you aren't leaning on the standard mag release like a crutch. Much faster than the standard releases, IF you know how to use it. I prefer the HK release to any other.

  • Glocks aren't ugly, they have a no bullshit professional look and feel. Incredible craftsmanship and engineering. Simple design and proven technology. Gaston Glock is a fucking genius.

  • to be honest, much of the Glock's success is due to outstanding marketing on behalf of its company. It has a lot of media attention which to some extent has made it overrated.

    personally, I fancy firearms that are infamous based on a long history of kicking ass and outstanding performance. Pistols like the 1911

    not only that I have shot a Glock Mod 22 and a S&W 1911 .45 ACP and I would take the 1911 anyday hands down, for me it was more accurate and more controllable.

  • @charger19691 @charger19691 lol it sounds to me like you guys need to change out your tampons. lol you are getting emotional over these pistols. lol hahaha "its not ugly, its professional" lol hahahah

    I love my 1911, I would take it over both of these pistols, but thats just me, I couldn't give a shit what any asshole with an opinion has to say about it.

  • @charger19691 You are a dumbass.

  • Damn it guys it doesn't really matter. Its the internet. There are going to be people you don't like. Grow up. Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics even if you win your still retarded.

  • @superboy0317

    If you're going to poke fun at special needs people at least learn how to spell.

  • @xRapidDavex Sadly there are no spelling errors. They may be grammatical errors but grammar never really agreed with me.

  • @superboy0317

    Sadly you had a second chance to look and you still missed your mistake.

    "Grow up. Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics even if you win your still retarded"

    'Your' is possessive as in 'your red balloon' or 'your mistake'. Not to be used in place of you're, the contracted version of you are.

  • @xRapidDavex Sadly you fail to see that that is a grammatical mistake.

  • @superboy0317

    Would you have preferred me to say "If you're going to poke fun at special needs people at least learn the proper use of grammar"?

    Either way, the point of my post flew over your head and you chose to focus on one word.

  • @xRapidDavex - you must have read my post at some point or another . please be original .

  • @xRapidDavex - be yourself and if people dont like you then ahhhh well too f$#%ing bad.

  • The biggest torture of all is listening to all the D-bag Glock hater's. The best Handgun in the world is the one that you can make vital hits with time after time. For me it's a Glock, maybe not for you that's ok.

  • haters plural, not hater's.

  • IN no way am i saying that golck Is a bad gun Im just saying do your research like seams675 did and u might end up with a really nice handgun

  • +1 for the H&K. I got one the other day. best $900 I ever spent. To each his own though.

  • people who know nothing about guns buy

    glock! I hate every time u go into a gun store every single person ask for a glock because its a household name if u want a realy nice gun get an h&k usp or an h&k p30 they are worth the extra money

  • People who know nothing about guns buy glocks? Sir, please face the exit and start walking forward.

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  • @strakill Ignorant statements? I don't think you understand what I was saying.

    "People who know nothing about guns buy glocks? Sir, please face the exit and start walking forward."

    I put a question mark at the end there, and told somebody to turn around and leave. I am not the one who said that only people who know nothing about guns buy glocks, somebody else said that, and it disgusted me.

    Sorry, I just wanted to set that straight. I love Glocks personally.

  • @MikeReiner In that case let me give you my apologies, it makes perfect sense to me. I will remove that comment as it does not belong. Thank you.

  • Yah that's why over 40% of all us law enforcement agencies choose Glock over all other Brands. Dependable, Accurate, Safe... The H&K's are for sure outstanding firearms. If you shoot you H&K like you do your mouth...

    God help us....lol

  • Nah if I am dropping 1k on a handgun its going to be a sig. Say what you want about the usp and hk mk 23 but the sig 226/229 family is the best out there.

  • Well, the only reason it's a household name is because of the reputation that it's built over the years. The only real complaint you can level against glocks is their ergonomics, and the fact that they're butt ugly. The ergonomics you can get used to, but you can do little to improve the reliabilty and safety of other pistols. Seriously, the motto says it all- Perfection.

  • He probably does not even have a clip in that gun. It won't lock without an empty magazine. Stupid demo and video. Tool.

  • @Seams675 haha theyre not talking about the slide locking back, theyre talking about it locking forward in the firing position. look how when they release the slide it doesnt come all the way forward. it wont fire out of battery, so if you had that usp in your hand you would be fucked

  • Thats enuff for me torture for me and the gun shop near me is selling new Glocks in the $500-$550. Thanks for the test and now its off to get my new Glock 21!

  • noooooooooo dont buy that!!

  • That does not look like a glock AT ALL. I sure do hate these glock haters. That all hate glocks and say they suck for absolutely no reason at all. It is a GREAT GUN, if not the BEST.... deal with it...

  • That is an H&K... The glock lasted throughout the torture tests whereas the H&K obviously failed so they showed it not functioning. That's the problem with glock fanboys, bunch of idiots... no offense of course:]

  • this is not a glock in this video

  • in all fairness, the term "can't hold a candle..." is a bit extreme, I would use that expression to describe the difference between a Luger P08 and Sig P226.

    I am not aware of the cited brutal tests of the USP, do they have a name or date?

  • If you google "HK USP torture test" it will come up. It's all pretty standard stuff really: extreme temperature, proof rounds, particulate and mud testing, drop testing, etc. Nothing any modern automatic from a reputable company can't manage.

  • The only "stupid moron" I see here is you. The HK "torture tests" are very standard dirt, extreme temp and drop tests that ANY reputable manufacturer will perform. I don't even think they did a salt water test.

    Glocks, FN's, and Sigs are all just as safe, just as reliable, not nearly as expensive (except maybe SIG), and have more redeeming qualities.

    I'll put my FNP-40 USG against your HK USP any day of the week.

  • "I'll put my FNP-40 USG against your HK USP any day of the week. "

    So where's your torture test video of your FNP-40?

  • Where's yours?

    I can't afford to do one, but if you google "FNP extended testing" there's several articles outlining the various torture tests it went through.

  • @number1Schumacherfan thats right glocks are hunks of garbage to a USP

  • LMAO...a 5 second video showing a failure with a gun doesn't prove anything. One could film a failure with ANY brand of firearm. It doesn't mean it's an unreliable brand or model. You have to test many samples of the same model many many times to reach a conclusion that statistically makes sense.

  • H&|K are tight tolerance guns, thus a bit or dirt might make it fail. See why the AK-47 outperforms the M-16 in the dirt department, cause the AK has loose tolerances... same as a Glock, loose like the rear end of a goose.

  • Hk are not tight toleranced guns. Kimber 1911s are tight toleranced guns or any match 1911 is. HK has a better slide to frame fit but there are plenty of tests out there showing their reliability.

    Hks don't fire out of battery either...

  • thats why the best weapons have reliability and precision, I guess the difference between the AK and the Glock is, the Glock is precise

  • Hk compact...not surprised...fullsize more reliable

  • That is a HK USP

  • that is awesome. that's whay I have one.

  • I have a sig sauer p226 and a glock 17 and I can tell you that so far I am liking the glock better...

  • It's all about preference. I was debating the glock vs 226 for my next hand gun, but the glock just doesn't feel right for me. The sigs have just felt better in my hand and I have more control with it. People get get in these huge caliber and gun debates and then only put 300 rounds through their gun a year. Shoot what your good with and practice a lot. Because when that bad guy has a bullet between his eyes he won't care about what gun or what caliber it is.

  • I agree with you...shoot with what you are comfortable using....like I said I have both and they're both great guns...although I think there's less that can go wrong with glock simply because it has less parts...it's just a very simple accurate reliable piece.

  • The sigs are full metal and are more accurate than glocks, on the other hand they probably wont take as much abuse. I have no experiance with the H&K

  • Really the Sigs are the main handgun of the US Navy seals. They've been using the P226 for years now.

    The MK23 is another gun thats been tested by them, and probably used but the highest percentage as far as I know are P226's. Really it boils down to preference though. Between Glock H&K and SIG they're all probably great guns but different people have different taste in guns, take me for example I still like the 1911 best but Im really looking at a Glock or a Sig as another Pistol.

  • The HK IS THE GUN USED BY US SEALS!!! IT IS THE MK23 aka. SOCOM .45acp 12+1. with a threaded barral for silencer

  • i spoke with some specwar guys who work in coronado recently and the word is that they are phasing the mk23 out of the entire nswc inventory cause they are too huge... they are like the size of a desert eagle and too bulky... but the usp compact tactical should take care of that problem if the navy would consider it... even though alot those guys are getting sig 226 now.

  • yer, my wife carries a sig , when she 's on duty in the coast guard , sigs are the shit !

  • Err... That's not true. Seals have been using the Sig 226 since the 80's. Do your homework before posting :) And all this Brand X is better than Brand Y is a waste of energy. Everyone has different wants for different applications. Sigs are good. HK's are good. Glocks are good. Who gives a shit who carries what?

  • Kacy4eq, whats the best 45 for tactical home defense. none of that sub compact bs. a very good and accurate 45 handgun. any suggestions?

  • @Kacy4eq The issued weapon is the P226, But Often you will see Seals with Mk.23's. While you are correct in your statement, It's correct to an extent. You are also right about the comparison of Systems. To me, It comes down to what I am most comfortable shooting. At the moment is a USP Expert. But I do own a P229, And a Glock 17 and 32.

  • @aphsknight74 I've heard that they hate it because of its size and trigger pull, got anything backing up that statement?

  • @AdmiralGST In size, The USP and an Full Sized Sigs are very comparable. And the Trigger pull on the USP's are very smooth and I don't know about anyone else, But I don't get flexing in my Trigger. As for my P229, It's very similar but very different. The triggers are somewhat equal, As is the Price tag. They are both reliable, Good, Solid Pistols. But For me I am just more comfortable with the USP.

  • @aphsknight74 I haven't had the chance to hold one yet, I have seen a few at my range but never bothered to hold a USP. I like SIGs though.

  • @AdmiralGST Theyre pretty similar. And Are both fine pieces of Machinery. I think Any owner would be happy with either.

  • @aphsknight74 My original comment BTW was about the MK 23. But I do agree with that last comment.

  • not no more homeskillet

  • Lol SIG better then Glock.....thatll be the day

  • In my opinion, Sigs and Glock's are equally built. Glock may have better reputation but sig are just as reliable.

  • Let me settle this GLOCK vs. SIG debate. Ask yourself this, which gun is in the holster of the U.S. NAVY SEALs and the British 22nd SAS?

    The answer: SIG

    By the way, if you listen to the arguments that GLOCK fanboys make as to why GLOCK is superior to HK and SIG, it always comes down to price. Face it, GLOCK is the "value" brand.

  • The SEALS and the SAS??? Because an SOF unit adopted a firearm doesn't mean it's "..superior". The Army SF and Marine Recon use modified 1911s, the FBI uses Glocks, and the Spetsnaz use Makarovs. What's your point? If Hk is beyond reliability, then why aren't there unbias user video postings adulating its 'superior' performance?

  • I don't even care about HK really. SIG SAUER makes the best pistols, that's a fact.

    And yes, when you have an elite military units like the SEALs and SAS adopt a weapon and continue using it for decades, that says a lot because either of those two units could get there hands on literally any gun.

  • No no no my 'monolingual' friend. In the English language, that's not considered a fact, that's considered an opinion. So again, because one of the world's many elite SOF units adopted a certain brand of firearm doesn't mean it superpasses all other manufacturers in quality or performance. Tacticians, combatist, and other professionals alike prefer the Glock -- now that's a fact. Here are a few examples: Vladimir Vasiliev, Kelly McCann, and Gabriel Suarez.

  • actually, if you read the article describing the enitre battery of tests, all they did was shake it in a bucket of play-sand.

    " took each pistol, full mag, round in the chamber and shook it in the sand for a few seconds. I pulled the USP compact out of the bucket(it was loaded but decocked), pulled the trigger, hammer falls but no bang. I pull the trigger again and still no bang. Not a squib, and not a delay. I cycle the slide and eject the cartridge, but it fails to go into battery."

  • You should do a torture test on the springfield XD.

  • why are Glock's always compared to HK's? i know the answer. HK is the best and everyone wants a shot at the best. no matter if you buy a Glock or HK its going to put a round down range and thats all that matters to most civi's, most failures come from cheap ammo not the weapons themselves. i find a general rule of thumb is dont buy a handgun that cost less than $500 if your going to trust your life to it.

  • Yeah, my glock 21 does feel like a bar of irish spring. lol

  • While I have a P2000 (USP, just with a police style twist...), the video is pretty weak. One fairly to lock forward, and it was half-ridden forward at that. My pistol does get gummy after several hundred rounds...but if you're going to post a video, back it up a little more.

  • Personally, I'd rather have a Smith and Wesson or Taurus. But it would be a revolver. Revolvers rule and are super reliable. In a life or death situation I want something I KNOW will work. However, to be honest, I haven't had alot of experience with semis; so I won't pretend to be an expert. It's just my choice.

  • why do users say just because it costs cheaper its a cheap gun. ive been in business marketing and price means nothing. marketing costs and did anyone think because more glocks are sold they would get better wholesale parts since there purchasing large quantites of material. supply and demand is what controls pricing not quality. were in a capitalistic world. i do think the costs to make a USP are higher but i cant see how a UPS is better quality.

  • How is it " jammed"? This video could do a better job of illustrating its point. Looking at the rear of the gun, it looks like it's in battery , no? Where is the "jam", and what is "jammed"?

  • the slide is not locking all the way into it's forward most position.

  • I have a Glock 21 and out of the dozens of 45 autos I have owned it is the best. I like other models but I love Glock! I wouldn't trade it for 2 HKs not that HKs are not fine pistols it just isn't a Glock.

  • Nice. These glock fanboys are lame. HK's rule, they invented polymer framed pistols that glock is so famous for. Glock fans just hate on HK's because they can't afford them.

  • Why would i want to spend double the money on something, when i can something better for about half? Not to mention mags are sooo much cheaper. I've owned a USP .45acp. Mags were like $45 bucks. And the pistol didn't group well at all. Maybe i'll buy the 9mm verion next time.

  • That may be true for some, but many people simply just favor the pistols they own. Glock is not a bad pistol at all.

  • I'm pretty surprised by how poorly the USP did in your tests, do you think its performance was hurt by being the compact model?

  • imagine a glock, a usp, a S&W M&P and a beretta on the open ground. They're loaded but you've no idea how long they've been there. You got 5 seconds to pick one up and shoot it, which one would you get? Most cops would choose the glock. Why? Because it doesn't matter in combat how accurate the USP is.

  • every Missouri state highway patrolman i know either has a sig p229 or USP compact as a back up. The issue pistol is a glock 17 they only carry it because they have to.

  • I've owned Glocks and HKs. Both are extremely reliable guns. The HKs are fully worth the extra couple hundred dollars. Much better fit and finish, and a better grip angle. The glocks feel much cheaper. However, I would trust my life to both. Nevertheless, the Glocks are all gone, but the HK P30 and USP Tactical .45 remain.

  • Gotta agree. I'm big fan of Glocks, but I also own HKs....this is simply someone riding the slide and claiming it "failed".

  • I wonder why USP's are so expensive compared to the Glock.

  • The USP is a better sidearm. Period.

  • LOL...the USP is a expensive pistol that should cost the same as the glock. I'v shot a sig and a USP and i still like my glock better.

  • Right, everyone knows you should perform this maneuver with your hand palm-down on top of the slide. It's a good idea to form the habit of blocking the ejection port when cycling a handgun.

  • hmmm, then why do I know people in the USMC Who were taught to charge the pistol from the rear of the slide because of the Beretta M9's slide design

  • What's the deal with all these 5 or 8 second videos that don't give any context to the video? I'm all about the Glock, but what is this 5 second video showing? It's showing an HK that won't lock. Why not show what was done to it that made it not lock? Same with things like your test video 23 and 24. It says Glock sand test, but all it shows is a Glock firing. Why not show it being pulled from the sand and then firing to help validate the video?

  • Maybe if you read the website that he posts in every single one of these videos' descriptions, it would add that context. These vids were put up here to show you some of the stuff from the website--they're not meant to be self-explanitory.

  • I realize that, but how hard would it be to show the gun being pulled out of the bucket of whatever? After all, the video is only 5 seconds long. Surely there is more than the 5 seconds shown. REmember, these videos get linked to on gun forums, and it wouldn't hurt to see a bit of explanatory video. JMHO.

  • @Medic1210 Its all about da money..! (schapman is youtube partner) Or it could be that they dont want t wait so long to release a complete video and instead release a vid once a week?

  • Nice test !!, Glock is the AK47 of the pistol world.

    I think the HK USP is a great gun, accurate and reliable but Glock is extremely reliable. Remember some times you pay for a good finish and a nice looking gun.

  • thats an HK USP

  • Yep I agree. Is that even a glock 21? Maybe its an older version. It doesn't look like one though.

  • You know, some $1200 worth of a bottle of wine from france can taste worse than the $3 one from california. Remember, price isnt all about performance, its always 33% design and 33% quality and 33% expensive REPUTATION...especially when it comes to buying a pistol.

  • Dear sir in thisvideo hk wont lock so sir why texas rangers only choose sig and HK pistols why u.s elite units use HK USP MK 23 socom pistol what aboutnew HK45 for next generation socom pistol and sir what can you say about kaboom especially in 45 cal glocks why u.s marines choose expansive sig pistols or other units around the world socom pstol do you believe a 2400$ or 1000$ pistol isnt as good as a 600$ pistol?

  • What?

  • what is this a torture test for the HK or Glock 21

  • Shapman43, what is your oppionin on the Glock 21 Pistol after doing these torture test's? also have you done any torture test's on a Glock 23?

  • US Military procurement is politically motivated which is why they chose the Beretta despite it not being up to the job. Unreliable, over complex, over bulky and weak of slide. You don't always get what you pay for, especially when the military is paying.

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