PC it the best but is soo expensive because you need a lot or stuff but if you have all do you need you got xbox , 360, ps1, ps2, ps3, psp, Ds, Dsi, 3Ds, Wii,Gamecube,GameboyAdvance\Color, nes,snes a porn machine a computer and anything you dream ;)
@johnring2006 lol,,xbox is a joke ,,and whit games like mgs4,,killzone2,and killzone3,god of war 3 ,,uncharted 2,heavy rain,little big planet,resistance2,demon souls,mod nation racers,infamous,,, and no aa bateries ,,,plus blueray cds that dont scratch even on the pc the games are on dvds lolol,,,, but thats ok bro i dont want to see you online on ps3 ,,,,play your wow on your geek pc,,,,
@dereileak If I built a computer with the same specs as the PS3 and wanted to sell it to you for the same price as a PS3 you would tell me to fuck off. In fact a PC with those specs would be worth nothing. But the fact that it's a console and the people who buy them are blind makes them sell. 512mb of shared ram (Shared between the GPU and Ram) so 256mb each. And it has only 3 cores. Don't tell me that is powerful.
@Nintendoguy5794 first off the ps3 is a single core, and it has 8 spe's, 1 for the OS, and 1 for yeild, so thats 6 spe's that you can use for processing, you don't know shit, also 512mb of ram is not bad when you only have like 10mb of an OS running, Fallout newvegas on full specs only takes 450mbs of ram on my gaming computer, thats all the memory total
@dereileak Yeah it uses 450mb of ram. And PS3 has 512 SHARED. So in theory it only has 256mb of memory. Consoles are old technology and shit. End of story.
@Nintendoguy5794 , it has 256 mb's of system memory, and 256 mb of ram for the gpu, which is 512 total, but here is the thing, processing power is not measured by the amount of memory it has, thats where you get everything wrong, whats better a gtx 460 with 512mb of ram, or a gtz 8800 with 2gb of ram? not that that card exists, they make you think memory is equivlent to power, so that must be why the united states ordere about 100+ of these consoles for number cruntching they must be shit huh???
@dereileak It's not fast either. It's GPU only runs at 550mhz. The consoles were good for the time they came out. They are slow and outdated for today's standards. Even the next generation will not be as powerful as today's gaming PC's because people who buy consoles want it fast, cheap and easy. Cheap being the main thing. The latest hardware is too expensive. That is why the PS3 is at the bottom of sales. People don't care that it's theoretically more powerful than xbox. Too expensive.
@Nintendoguy5794 mhz effects processing power, but that doesnt determine how much work it can do, plus the Cell processor can do most of the physics and all the other processing besided textures, which the gpu can do. The PS3 is the second YTD best selling console world wide, and the wii is #1 ytd, but this month the wii is the 3rd. I don't know ho you think the ps3 is to expensive, its 299, you get lots more then you get with xbox for free, and its does have the RROD, your a fanboy
@dereileak You think I'm an Xbox fanboy? Well that's interesting. You may change your mind if you look at my channel. And don't make out that PS3 doesn't have any issues. For 1 the blue-ray is a huge mistake because no games need to take up that much space. Blue ray discs are over-priced and take ages to read. I haven't got a RROD but I have got a faulty disc tray. The problem isn't as prone as it used to be. It has the same chance of happening as the PS3's and Wii's issues.
@dereileak I'm not a fanboy. I play PC mostly and I play my Xbox often as well. I play Wii when relatives come over. A fanboy is you who is dedicated to ONE console. That being PS3. You are defending it to the ground like it is the best thing to ever happen to gaming. That is fanboyism.
@Nintendoguy5794 I love my ps3, I also have a gaming desktop that I use for a lot of the better games, yes my desktop has better graphics, the reason I am defending the ps3 is because you act like it is absolute shit, this thing was developed back around 2002-2006 then released, considering the time it was developed and then put out, this thing is amazing. Bluray is not a mistake, metal gear solid 4 took up almost the whole disk, if the game is made right it looks amazing on the ps3
@dereileak the problem is most games are ported, but if you play killzone 2, or uncharted 2, then you would realize how amazing it can make things look, blu-ray is also good for hd movies, and they can easily make a blu-ray disk for $1 now, if not less, yes the ps3 does have its issues, mainly software wise, or the lack there of, but sony is partnering with google, which I imagine they will also do for the ps4, consoles are nice for those who just want to game without hassle
@dereileak also a note here "Game Informer's survey of 5,000 console owners finds over half Microsoft's machines fail once, 41.2% fail twice; 10.6% of PS3s, 6.8% of Wiis also reported defective. " so yes they do fail a lot more, its due to bad heat removing design, if you have a new 360, the revision, then its fine now, but if you move it expect a messed up disk as it will destroy it. I am a fan of the ps3, but I mainly just don't like your attitude on it, thinking it sucks
@dereileak the main issue with the ps3 is how they split the memory, instead of being 512 mb of memory that the cpu and gpu share, they each have there own, which makes development harder, and the processor is a float processor, so you have to optimize for it a lot more then a 360 which can port games really easy, if you take the time to make a ps3 game then you have a much much much much better looking game with amazing graphics and gameplay, all depends on the company
@dereileak I will say the 360 has a great menu design, good feeling controllers, and good support from developers, it does have great things, thats one of the things I wish sony would get its ass in gear for, is adding features and stuff that we want, they don't really listen, as microsoft being an american company will, but microsoft isnt good at hardware, they need to stick with software, if sony built the hardware, and microsoft the os and platform, then it would be a WIN WIN!!!
@dereileak I didnt just say that PS3 is shit. All consoles are shit. They are outdated. Just like I have PC's that our outdated. They were great gaming PC's when I first got them but now they are shit. That is consoles. Good then, shit now. I am "Nintendoguy" And I am going to say right now that the Wii was the biggest waste of 400 bucks I have ever spent in my life. The DSi was the biggest waste of 300 dollars in my whole life actually no ipod touch is more shit but you get the point. Good once
@Nintendoguy5794 thats the sucky thing with technology, is its great once, and goes down hill from there, but to a point, it gets better as developers learn how to use the hardware that they are given, don't get me wrong, I love my ps3, but I am deffentialy waiting for the ps4, and I love my pc as i can't max it out yet with really any games, but I consider my ps3 the best 500 dollars I have spent so far, unless you consider my students loans, or car that I bought, but still, tech wise
@dereileak That's what I like about PC. Developers for PC are never limited with what they can do. Games don't have to be optimized to hell and things like that. If something doesn't work then something gets released to make it work. If a game doesn't work QUITE the way the the community wants, there are mods. (Mods aren't frowned apon in the PC community) That's why I choose PC. Endless customization and endless power.
@Nintendoguy5794 I agree, example fallout new vegas, within 14 hours of release there is a fix for almost everything, and I can max out all the graphics stuff, plus having a custom pc in a custom case is very rewarding and awesome, I like pc the most now too, but ps3 is my second, pc costs more, but its worth it in the end, and is a lot of fun, I love mods, you can do a lot with them, I understand you there
Wow all you fanboys are really sad, I really don't understand how you can call yourself gamers and yet be a fanboy of a system, a real gamer wouldn't give a damn what system an awesome game comes out on.
@G33KSPALACEdotCOM Agree, i got a PS3 and a pc, i like my ps3 because is better than my pc but i play alot on my pc too, the fact is that the system and grafics dosent mean anything... I wish games where like movies: no flame war about systems... Anyway, i like the games not the systems! Thats what someone had to say dosen't?
yhea,im play ps3 and xbox 360,xbox live is better and the game is good,but the game of the ps3 is very good and the PSN is a fuking shit...Xbox 360 4ever
@likablegenny LMAO!!! some1 didn't do any research XBL is not better then PSN. PSN runs on dedicated severs and XBL runs on P2P severs. And its factual dat P2P severs lag more then dedicated severs.
@ExtremeBogom agreed. all of us PS3 owners need to stop behaving like little Children and not stoop down to Xbox fanboy levels. enjoy you're masterpiece's of technological Machinery that like EVERYTHING! have some flaws. but make it all the more enjoyable.
@orcboss99 no but the ps3 has killzone 2 uncharted 2 resistance2 motor storm mgs4. Does the 360 have any of those ummmm no, btw gears of war and halo are so fuckin easy i completed them in 7 hours max
@orcboss99 hahaha its always gears and halo. so gay. does 360 have uncharted 1,2. does it got mag, infamous,mgs4,lbp,killzone2,resistance1,2,warhawk,is it getting heavy rain?god of war 3? modnation racers?gran turismo 5?NO hahahah
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For begginers id say xbox 360, xbox can have better graphics than the ps3, but ofc pc is the best graphiced system, the ps3 can handle more graphic power but normaly has shitly graphiced games.
the xbox does NIOT have better graphics.like Halo to Killzone 2. or resistane 2 compaird to gears of war 2.those 2 360 games for a fact do NOT have better graphics and dont get me started with MGS4 and GT5
It's too bad Sony took a page out of SEGA's book and made their system unnecessarily complicated and hard to program for. Saturn anyone? Maybe there would be more than two games that have better graphics than 360 games if they hadn't.. I think PS3 is pretty slick. Hell, I loved my Saturn too...
What I am saying is that maybe a video game console isn't the best place to be putting in a brand new type of processor and logic when nobody knows how to properly program for it. Hence why PS3 owners (especially the ones who paid untold amounts of money to get it when it came out) have had to wait this many years before the software even started to utilize it.
Maybe, but today PS3 and xbox 360 cost the same. Also, kinda what you said, more comapnies are finding the power of the PS3 and are developing for it exclusively, sadly. The best would be if all games came to every console, then again, Microsoft and Sony wouldn't be as compedetive as they are now, which would mean more expensive and crappy hardware :P
I know this was a long time ago, but I just wanted to point out that if companies aren't ready to takw risks, like outting in new processor etc, then the consoles will never become better, you don't wanna buy the same shit over and over onlye because games aren't being produced for your own console. Like the Wii was suckish and har to program for at first, just look at the game Red Steal. It sucked and was totally laggy with the motionsensor thingy.
A new processor is one thing. But Sony decided to put something that they new would be trouble for the programers into an outrageously expensive system and totally screw early adopters who paid for the next greatest thing. Only to find that they could have waited until the system was reasonably priced and reasonably utilized. Sony should have been in a better position to ease the transition for developers. And in turn, doing what was best for their loyal fanbase.
If you ever played wii with like your family or goofed around with you friends with it, you would think it was fun, it's just not a system that you play all the time 6 hours a day.
Also, in my opinion, the release price for the PS3 wasn't expensive... If me, a 16 year old can afford it, the most people should. I even bought a new one cause my old one broke, now I have a slim and think all the money I've put in to PS3 has been worth it.
However, I feel bad for all the people that went out and payed rediculous amounts of money for a PS3 at launch only to find out that they would have to wait 3 years for a game that took advantage of the system. I still feel that Sony should have been able to help the developers out better at launch so that the early adopters would have a decent game to play for their hard earned dollars.
@cakessi i feel sorry that a game thats been out for almost 3 years on the ps3 still looks better then anything on the 360 and anything coming out on the 360
Nothing new or impressive here. I have both systems and play them both equally. Go have your flame-war elsewhere if you aren't going to intelligently respond to my comments.
Due to the fact that the Xbox 360 is cheaper and less time consuming to develop for than the PS3... that's reasonable. If I was to design a game, I do the Xbox 360 first and add any tweaks for the PS3.
The PS3 main advantage is better multi processing hardware, not graphics.
Come to think of it... nobody seems to care about the game audio as much.
Even IF Uncharted looks better CLOSE UP, (which is what you wrote) nobody is going to go that close to admire work. If it looks good without having to put your nose at the screen, who cares. Besides, in my opinion, if you are arguing that graphics make a game, you are a retarded twat. Game play comes first, then bugs (which goes hand in hand with game play), then story, then graphics. If you can't play the game, what is the point in arguing about who has more polygons in there ass.
Are you fucking retarded? Since I can't actually speak with some one, I have to emphasize it with CAPS. I seriously hate retarded children that can't come up with a valid argument to counter with and instead target features of my post that INTELLIGENT people would understand to try make it seem stupid.
im sorry buddy but the grafix are the best part of any game the embrace you in to the game making you feel what the caricature is going throe seeing the emotion to say that the grafix don't matter you are the fool because all the game's are the same for the best part on all consoles the only thing different is the grafix
You probably like the FPS genre only or are still young because a true game not only defines its genre, but changes how you view it. There have been many successful RPGs with questionable graphics, but as long as the story and game play mechanics are there, it doesn't matter. You can have a shiny rock and call it a work of art, but I will take a well written dusty book any day =).
Yeh nicely said but can i correct your grammer? " Stop it, You fanboys. All systems have good points and bad points. The next gen ones are good but are purly ment for the 3 years untill the next one comes out. If you have a good amount of money and want good graphics and everything but a high specd PC" =D
PlayStation 3 exclusively = More expensive, longer development time, smaller audience of gamers and smaller audience of online purchases compared to the Xbox 360. Ofcourse that simple math leaves many previous die-hard Sony entusiastic developers to turn multi-system.
Even if Sony has sold over 20+ milion PlayStation 3's it's still selling a fraction of games and online content to the Xbox 360 as the Xbox 360 gaming audience is simply alot bigger per ratio.
Insomniac Games has released every year since launch, whatever. But they also produced Resistance and Resistance "two" which is the absolute worst games I've ever played - and I'm being absolute honest here. Plus their Ratchet and Clank game looks terrible - they didn't even bother upscaling the resolution to "1080p".
Uncharted is not a big deal. You're looking at things as they were 2007.
uhm ok yeah sony is loosing money but it's not just sony microsoft lost at least 1 billion on repairing 360 that doesn't even last long till you get it repair again, also 28million 360 1/4 of that pretty much is "rebuy" w/c is 2nd 3rd or 4th one of some owners. not only that vista failed a lot.
Okay, last post for now or else I'll eat up this entire page.
I think Xbox 360 even passed the 30 milion bar recently. And granted, it has a history prone to defects, but one important kicker in this worth mentioning is the effort they do put in the service - even if it seems unneccessary.
Me and my little gang of friends with Xbox 360 has had one error each. Launch units failed after three years, one after 18 months and mine had E74 after 12 months - replaced by my door within 10 days.
I doubt it has to do with security, it might be a justification done for the crowd but I doubt that is accurate facts. If Microsoft notices developers complaining over space limitations there is always an additional (if accurate) ~25-33% to get from each disc - and with Unreal 3 being basicly the fundamental technology on the market today I sense it will take a little time getting to that point.
I don't know if money goes to Sony, but Sony is bigger than "SCEE" alone.
Native 720p on a native 1080p monitor looks blurry and smudgy due to the way the LCD monitors works.
I'm playing the Uncharted on my Full-HD monitor as I write this. It looks good, but it's far as technically compelling as the first Gears of War even which also runs AntiAliasing filters.
Sony has lost billionS on even producing the PlayStation 3 system and commissioning the hardware. Microsoft has had a BUDGET spanning 3 billion at a most.
Metal Gear Solid 4, an well-established franchise - outsold by Gears of War "one", the first installation in that respective franschise.
Gears of War 2 sold 2.000.000 copies in 48 hours. Only at all comparable number on PlayStation 3 is Killzone 2 with 750.000 copies in seven days.
Even if the PlayStation 3 isn't lagging behind too miserably to the Xbox 360 it is, in fact, sold to the greater market as an affordable BluRay player.
also yeah sony did quite bad years ago but their doing a great job right now they did lost partners but at LEAST sony don't lie to the consumers as much as microsoft falcon jasper what's next?
Also how can you expect sony to make a comeback right away, also DVD is starting to hold back game developement now due to the necessary cuts they need to do and compressed sounds are getting old. ff XIII gameplay has been comprmised due to DVD limitations no jap VA cuz of the 360 quests were cut.
Microsoft lied? They did deliver the Falcon. And now they're producing Xbox 360s with 45nm CPUs. The Red Ring error is basicly gone, newer problems span E74.
A DLDVD holds up to ~9GB of data, some mention up to 12GB. The games on the Xbox 360 is currently no bigger than 6,7GB which speaks for a certain future headroom. I'm judging by the installation size on the harddrive - and as the disc is not spinning at all during installed-to-HDD operation it speaks for no data being loaded from disc.
yeah they did change falcon and jasper, but what i meant is did falcon help?? jasper helped a little but there are still who's getting an RROD and error of some shit.
Yeah, but remember it's only the fresh-out-of-the-factory at the time who is running the newer chips - stores and retailers still have a stock to sell indiscriminately (spelling) of the hardware revision as these internal differences are very tuned down.
You can detect newer models from another by looking at the ID and production date, but not before purchase. So maybe the newer users getting RROD errors might not run the hardware they believe at all times.
also don't get me wrong I love gears of war series but if the game is short it's not really worth it, HALO's old pretty much most people who'll buy it are just HALO fanboys, gears of war 3 if there is, is not gonna be a big hit anymore since ps3's quantum (GOW ripp-of if you say) is coming out. w/c i think is better, for me japanese made character ar better compare to EU or US. also as you mention before sony pissed of a lot of business partners?? well microsoft pissed of millions of consumers.
Gears of War one is rather short, granted. Gears of War 2 is at a least 10 hours long worth of campaign if you're playing on anything above Casual, which is infact longer than the Killzone 2 campaign which took me 8-9 hours on the first run. But there's alot more to it than just play it through, that's where the trophies and achievements might help you see more replay value.
I doubt 9+ milions are dedicated Halo 3 "fanboys". Halo set a fundamental standard in 2002, causing it's wide success.
yeah im not gonna lie i used to be a HALO fanboy but do you think being fanboy lasts forever?? i quit after playing halo3, it's just like halo 2 w/ next gen graphics so do you think all those 9 million you were talking about will buy it??
of coarse there are people who gave up on the 360 cuz it failed them, and some quit cuz they are sick of it. HALO is not like final fantasy or whatsoever that everygame has different gameplay, while halo is just pretty much the same every installments.
Bungie sticked to what worked. If they reworked the formula people would be upset, by doing this Halo 3 doesn't feel like a new game, but plays as a new game. Which is sort of the thing they go with Halo 3 ODST, they try a little different approach - either the fans love it, or hate it, it's hard to come to a solution that fits everyone.
Myself I love Halo for it's pick-up friendly design and it's still far from dead thanks to a dedicated online community and new content once in a while.
And you don't need to be a "fanboy" for playing a specific game. I like Halo, I grew up with it and I've seen its impact upon the genre and the industry, but I don't portrait it as the best game on the planet simply becuase it's on my prefered system. It's old, but does the work done without compromises.
And so far this little argument/discussion seems to be going civil, which is rare to see but all the yet better for everyone. Though I tend to consume the entire page in posts.
I have this website that compares Gears 1&2 to Uncharted..Guess who wins?
It mostly was close ups that deal with character polys/models, then it has lighting effects, and particle effects. Audio is ALSO superior on Uncharted. Uncharted STILL has more high rez textures than ANY other console game this generation.
You are correct on the amount of data currently used on X360 on the DVD9. But it wouldn't expand much, since MS has to put the copy rights and such on the disc as well.
WHO compared it? That is the most important factor as objectivity is a rare jewel.
I played Uncharted, as I told you, and it's faaar from anything technically amazing today. Particle effects are the basic of the basic, lightning effects wasn't even noticable, shading was nothing out of what you'd expect for any game this generation and the audio wasn't either at all noticable.
If you want the best audio representation; Battlefield Bad Company is the thing for you.
Dis you know that characters in Uncharted have polygons from 25k-30k, while Gears 2 only has 11k-15k? What about 7.1 LPCM audio in Uncharted, compared to 5.1 DD in Gears 1&2? Then there's Uncharted which has 2xMSAA with HDR lighting compared to Gears 2xMSAA.
What? You've proven nothing. Plus the characters aren't much detailed in Uncharted. Fuck, I just had it on the screen hours ago and it's nowhere close to the technical compelling visuals as Gears of War 2.
7.1 LPCM and 5.1 DD means nothing as Uncharted still packs a rather weak array of audio.
I can state alot of unneccessary, plain stupid, features of the games but I don't see how that is the least interesting in this argument. You're hoping this is still 2007, which its not.
All those you said are sub-HD. Not to mention, out of those games you listed, only Alan Wake stands out for being a technical feat; but it falls way below what several PS3 exclusives do.
All those you said are sub-HD. Not to mention, out of those games you listed, only Alan Wake stands out for being a technical feat; but it falls way below what several PS3 exclusives do.
Sony is the one loosing the most money this generation. They pissed off alot of important business partners in 2006 and is loosing partners as time goes by. The PlayStation 3 simply sells too poorly and the ratio per games bought per unit is too low to make it worth the exclusives if Sony doesn't pay for basicly everything, not just the publishing.
It's good to see that developers really use the power of the PS3. It's a shame that Microsoft does't have that much first party developers so there are hardly any engine made speciefecly for the xbox. Sony has alot more first party developers with a engine specialy made for the PS3.
at Wolkie: ps3 is a lot more difficult to programm than the 360 with its symmetric cores, one reason with many game-versions are more efficient on the 360 than on ps3.
Thats true but what i mean is the engine specialy made for the xbox. So far as I know only Lionhead, Rare, Turn 10 and microsoft game studios has a specially made engine for the xbox and thats a shame :(. Also alot of xbox exclusice are made with a engine for every console like gears of war that is made off the Unreal Engine. Sure it look beautifull but what if they made a special engine only for the xbox and with that engine they made Gears that would be insane :D
and 1 reason why ps3 exclusives can't be on the 360 is because of the symmetric cores.
uncharted can't be on the 360 since the 360 doesn't have that much processing power as for the graphics yeah 360 can handle it but moving lots of object at the same time now that's a different story for the 360
Reggae, how can you come to know that? You do understand these claims are based upon the company developing the game having deals with Sony, right?
Uncharted is far from most high-end Xbox 360 games in terms of technologies and the stuff you provided is simply up to programming, not to hardware. What's so difficult with moving objects? It's only a matter of animations and alligning a path for objects to move, it's usually a very slim hardware stress from just that.
processing power is needed for all those stuffs being processed at the same time moving objects is just one of those, with lighting, real environemental physics and stuffs, as for the graphics i say their the same.
yes, but if programmed correctly, the game will run correctly, much better than on X360. Developers don't pay attention to the fact Sony outlined how to program for it already, and many developers are ignorant and lazy. I'd know.
lol how the hell did halo 3 win best graphics for last year? mgs 4 came out by then... gt 5 prologue even gta 4 which is multiplatform!! i thought there was some trade off... ne1 know?
Some games are meant to be played on a console, such as racing games. Some FPS/TPS games are quite good on a console aswell, though I prefer playing them on a PC.
Gaming on a PC becomes crucial in games that require quick reactions, multi-task actions and precision pointing, where as gaming on a console becomes more crucial in games that require less of what was stated above, especially precision pointing. Racing games have never been my favorite on a PC... Continued in next comment...
, while they're my second most favorited genre on a console, and this is all because of the smooth sticks you find on most console controllers now a days.
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naz4395 5 months ago
PC it the best but is soo expensive because you need a lot or stuff but if you have all do you need you got xbox , 360, ps1, ps2, ps3, psp, Ds, Dsi, 3Ds, Wii,Gamecube,GameboyAdvance\Color, nes,snes a porn machine a computer and anything you dream ;)
sanfelipe007 9 months ago
PS2>PC>everything else.
jinnwarior 1 year ago
PC > PS3 and Xbox 360 :P dumb console noobs! Grow up and and get a PC that's where the big boys play.
johnring2006 1 year ago
@johnring2006 hhaha ,,son just buy a ps3 ,,,pc is for geeks plus ps3 has better games
aldrum420 9 months ago
@aldrum420 w/e everyone knows ps3 sucks :P everyone know that xbox is the best console :P but for me its pc all the way :P
johnring2006 9 months ago
@johnring2006 lol,,xbox is a joke ,,and whit games like mgs4,,killzone2,and killzone3,god of war 3 ,,uncharted 2,heavy rain,little big planet,resistance2,demon souls,mod nation racers,infamous,,, and no aa bateries ,,,plus blueray cds that dont scratch even on the pc the games are on dvds lolol,,,, but thats ok bro i dont want to see you online on ps3 ,,,,play your wow on your geek pc,,,,
aldrum420 9 months ago
@aldrum420 I dont play WoW :P
johnring2006 9 months ago
@johnring2006 yea and its crap i play the pc it lags and i have a 64bit and pedos play on the pc lol like u
freddykrueger971 7 months ago
@freddykrueger971 just cause u have 64bit dont mean crap! You have to have a good graphics card and processor to back it up.
johnring2006 7 months ago
@johnring2006 i spent £5,000 on my pc and its not 4 me i dont game on pc like game on pc but some ppl dont so who say u can grud pl on wot there play
freddykrueger971 7 months ago
Look at her boobs at 0:28 they simulate bouncing boobs too!
Fredde1Widde 1 year ago
Not the powerfull :L XD
NathanAndrewLonsdale 1 year ago
I am a PS3 owner. and i'm pretty disgusted
about people behave.; especially PS3 Fanboys;
you should know that PS3 isn't always better or always bad.
If you've got enough money to buy a PS3, then you should
buy alot of game and a maturity to see Porns in GTA 4..
Warfreak57 1 year ago
PS3 is sexy I own a 360 so dont call me a fanboy cause i have a opinion :D
MrSmiley3262 1 year ago
lol at multi-platform games
timstarockz 1 year ago
PS3 and power do not go together because neither the 360 or PS3 are powerful.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 and the wii is there nintendo guy, are you rretarded, the ps3 is very powerful, they power just needs to be optimized for it
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak If I built a computer with the same specs as the PS3 and wanted to sell it to you for the same price as a PS3 you would tell me to fuck off. In fact a PC with those specs would be worth nothing. But the fact that it's a console and the people who buy them are blind makes them sell. 512mb of shared ram (Shared between the GPU and Ram) so 256mb each. And it has only 3 cores. Don't tell me that is powerful.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 first off the ps3 is a single core, and it has 8 spe's, 1 for the OS, and 1 for yeild, so thats 6 spe's that you can use for processing, you don't know shit, also 512mb of ram is not bad when you only have like 10mb of an OS running, Fallout newvegas on full specs only takes 450mbs of ram on my gaming computer, thats all the memory total
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak Yeah it uses 450mb of ram. And PS3 has 512 SHARED. So in theory it only has 256mb of memory. Consoles are old technology and shit. End of story.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 , it has 256 mb's of system memory, and 256 mb of ram for the gpu, which is 512 total, but here is the thing, processing power is not measured by the amount of memory it has, thats where you get everything wrong, whats better a gtx 460 with 512mb of ram, or a gtz 8800 with 2gb of ram? not that that card exists, they make you think memory is equivlent to power, so that must be why the united states ordere about 100+ of these consoles for number cruntching they must be shit huh???
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak It's not fast either. It's GPU only runs at 550mhz. The consoles were good for the time they came out. They are slow and outdated for today's standards. Even the next generation will not be as powerful as today's gaming PC's because people who buy consoles want it fast, cheap and easy. Cheap being the main thing. The latest hardware is too expensive. That is why the PS3 is at the bottom of sales. People don't care that it's theoretically more powerful than xbox. Too expensive.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 mhz effects processing power, but that doesnt determine how much work it can do, plus the Cell processor can do most of the physics and all the other processing besided textures, which the gpu can do. The PS3 is the second YTD best selling console world wide, and the wii is #1 ytd, but this month the wii is the 3rd. I don't know ho you think the ps3 is to expensive, its 299, you get lots more then you get with xbox for free, and its does have the RROD, your a fanboy
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak You think I'm an Xbox fanboy? Well that's interesting. You may change your mind if you look at my channel. And don't make out that PS3 doesn't have any issues. For 1 the blue-ray is a huge mistake because no games need to take up that much space. Blue ray discs are over-priced and take ages to read. I haven't got a RROD but I have got a faulty disc tray. The problem isn't as prone as it used to be. It has the same chance of happening as the PS3's and Wii's issues.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@dereileak I'm not a fanboy. I play PC mostly and I play my Xbox often as well. I play Wii when relatives come over. A fanboy is you who is dedicated to ONE console. That being PS3. You are defending it to the ground like it is the best thing to ever happen to gaming. That is fanboyism.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 I love my ps3, I also have a gaming desktop that I use for a lot of the better games, yes my desktop has better graphics, the reason I am defending the ps3 is because you act like it is absolute shit, this thing was developed back around 2002-2006 then released, considering the time it was developed and then put out, this thing is amazing. Bluray is not a mistake, metal gear solid 4 took up almost the whole disk, if the game is made right it looks amazing on the ps3
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak the problem is most games are ported, but if you play killzone 2, or uncharted 2, then you would realize how amazing it can make things look, blu-ray is also good for hd movies, and they can easily make a blu-ray disk for $1 now, if not less, yes the ps3 does have its issues, mainly software wise, or the lack there of, but sony is partnering with google, which I imagine they will also do for the ps4, consoles are nice for those who just want to game without hassle
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak also a note here "Game Informer's survey of 5,000 console owners finds over half Microsoft's machines fail once, 41.2% fail twice; 10.6% of PS3s, 6.8% of Wiis also reported defective. " so yes they do fail a lot more, its due to bad heat removing design, if you have a new 360, the revision, then its fine now, but if you move it expect a messed up disk as it will destroy it. I am a fan of the ps3, but I mainly just don't like your attitude on it, thinking it sucks
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak the main issue with the ps3 is how they split the memory, instead of being 512 mb of memory that the cpu and gpu share, they each have there own, which makes development harder, and the processor is a float processor, so you have to optimize for it a lot more then a 360 which can port games really easy, if you take the time to make a ps3 game then you have a much much much much better looking game with amazing graphics and gameplay, all depends on the company
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak I will say the 360 has a great menu design, good feeling controllers, and good support from developers, it does have great things, thats one of the things I wish sony would get its ass in gear for, is adding features and stuff that we want, they don't really listen, as microsoft being an american company will, but microsoft isnt good at hardware, they need to stick with software, if sony built the hardware, and microsoft the os and platform, then it would be a WIN WIN!!!
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak I didnt just say that PS3 is shit. All consoles are shit. They are outdated. Just like I have PC's that our outdated. They were great gaming PC's when I first got them but now they are shit. That is consoles. Good then, shit now. I am "Nintendoguy" And I am going to say right now that the Wii was the biggest waste of 400 bucks I have ever spent in my life. The DSi was the biggest waste of 300 dollars in my whole life actually no ipod touch is more shit but you get the point. Good once
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 thats the sucky thing with technology, is its great once, and goes down hill from there, but to a point, it gets better as developers learn how to use the hardware that they are given, don't get me wrong, I love my ps3, but I am deffentialy waiting for the ps4, and I love my pc as i can't max it out yet with really any games, but I consider my ps3 the best 500 dollars I have spent so far, unless you consider my students loans, or car that I bought, but still, tech wise
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak That's what I like about PC. Developers for PC are never limited with what they can do. Games don't have to be optimized to hell and things like that. If something doesn't work then something gets released to make it work. If a game doesn't work QUITE the way the the community wants, there are mods. (Mods aren't frowned apon in the PC community) That's why I choose PC. Endless customization and endless power.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
@Nintendoguy5794 I agree, example fallout new vegas, within 14 hours of release there is a fix for almost everything, and I can max out all the graphics stuff, plus having a custom pc in a custom case is very rewarding and awesome, I like pc the most now too, but ps3 is my second, pc costs more, but its worth it in the end, and is a lot of fun, I love mods, you can do a lot with them, I understand you there
dereileak 1 year ago
@dereileak Glad we can agree on something.
Nintendoguy5794 1 year ago
THIS IS ON FKIN 2007.
MurdahPivot 1 year ago
cough crysis I still win
TJ5897 1 year ago
PC pwns these graphics crysis extreme graphic mod
BlackWing96 1 year ago
bourne thats all i have to say
conradlee65 1 year ago
whats the name of this song??
FSRxxx 1 year ago
Wow all you fanboys are really sad, I really don't understand how you can call yourself gamers and yet be a fanboy of a system, a real gamer wouldn't give a damn what system an awesome game comes out on.
G33KSPALACEdotCOM 1 year ago
@G33KSPALACEdotCOM Agree, i got a PS3 and a pc, i like my ps3 because is better than my pc but i play alot on my pc too, the fact is that the system and grafics dosent mean anything... I wish games where like movies: no flame war about systems... Anyway, i like the games not the systems! Thats what someone had to say dosen't?
luismatheusv 1 year ago
@G33KSPALACEdotCOM
Fucking WORD.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
1:17 SCDA!!!
borofalcon101 1 year ago
to all your xbox 360 fan boys, hardware wise, PC > ps3 > xbox 360
anttrap321 1 year ago
pllllllllllz , can someone give me the name of tha song , pllz i need answer !!?!?!
serioussaad 1 year ago
@serioussaad MOBY - EXTREME WAYS
dk1x 1 year ago
@dk1x
thanks very very very much :))))))
serioussaad 1 year ago
@serioussaad its the Bourne Identity song
asskickingness06 1 year ago
Fuck your Resistance, we got Halo.
BigOrca107 1 year ago
@BigOrca107 Halo sucks now after halo 2 it just sucks hope new one better then Halo 3
Killersnake432 1 year ago
Yhea.Halo is the most game of xbox.
Halo Reach the most game of the world !!
likablegenny 1 year ago
@BigOrca107 halo is a pussy game for people with no live
ItTastesLikeJAM 1 year ago
@ItTastesLikeJAM
i has no live? learn to fucking talk before you open your smelly cock hole to spew useless opinions on matters that have no relevance to anything.
BigOrca107 1 year ago
ps3 is about gay kids games
nathanieljorden 1 year ago
yhea,im play ps3 and xbox 360,xbox live is better and the game is good,but the game of the ps3 is very good and the PSN is a fuking shit...Xbox 360 4ever
likablegenny 1 year ago
@likablegenny LMAO!!! some1 didn't do any research XBL is not better then PSN. PSN runs on dedicated severs and XBL runs on P2P severs. And its factual dat P2P severs lag more then dedicated severs.
Pedrotucompa 1 year ago
@likablegenny i hope you were jokin when you typed that because.....your grammar
OpticalxXxYoroxXx 1 year ago
@nathanieljorden LMAO!!! dude hav u been on XBL lately its full of lil kids dat cry over everything.
Pedrotucompa 1 year ago
PS3's all about blur, my PC owns
jasonf81 1 year ago
PS3 FTW!
FordGTMaster 2 years ago
I am a PS3 owner and I'm pretty disgusted at how you lot behave.; especially PS3 owners; you should know better.
If you've got enough money to buy a PS3, then you should have enough maturity to be above these silly playground insults.
ExtremeBogom 2 years ago 18
i certainly agree
drummerboy2142 1 year ago
@ExtremeBogom agreed. all of us PS3 owners need to stop behaving like little Children and not stoop down to Xbox fanboy levels. enjoy you're masterpiece's of technological Machinery that like EVERYTHING! have some flaws. but make it all the more enjoyable.
fr34kaccident 1 year ago
@ExtremeBogom
Their parents probably have the maturity
InnuendoXP 4 months ago
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orcboss99 2 years ago
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orcboss99 2 years ago
@orcboss99 no but the ps3 has killzone 2 uncharted 2 resistance2 motor storm mgs4. Does the 360 have any of those ummmm no, btw gears of war and halo are so fuckin easy i completed them in 7 hours max
9lash 2 years ago
@orcboss99 hahaha its always gears and halo. so gay. does 360 have uncharted 1,2. does it got mag, infamous,mgs4,lbp,killzone2,resistance1,2,warhawk,is it getting heavy rain?god of war 3? modnation racers?gran turismo 5?NO hahahah
iscootscoot 2 years ago
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orcboss99 2 years ago
so what interesting games haves the 360?
orionpk 2 years ago
@orcboss99 ha no interesting games? maybe you dont give games a chance.
iscootscoot 2 years ago
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For begginers id say xbox 360, xbox can have better graphics than the ps3, but ofc pc is the best graphiced system, the ps3 can handle more graphic power but normaly has shitly graphiced games.
NathanAndrewLonsdale 2 years ago
the xbox does NIOT have better graphics.like Halo to Killzone 2. or resistane 2 compaird to gears of war 2.those 2 360 games for a fact do NOT have better graphics and dont get me started with MGS4 and GT5
amartinez97 2 years ago
the one with mgs4, how did he get tht footage???!
sorry, im a noob. :)
O0iodine 2 years ago
In 10 years this will all look like shit.
bigbagron 2 years ago
It's too bad Sony took a page out of SEGA's book and made their system unnecessarily complicated and hard to program for. Saturn anyone? Maybe there would be more than two games that have better graphics than 360 games if they hadn't.. I think PS3 is pretty slick. Hell, I loved my Saturn too...
But developers hate them.
cakessi 2 years ago
It has to be so complex to program for because the PS3 has so much depth, you can do anything on it.
Dauglashalfve 2 years ago
What I am saying is that maybe a video game console isn't the best place to be putting in a brand new type of processor and logic when nobody knows how to properly program for it. Hence why PS3 owners (especially the ones who paid untold amounts of money to get it when it came out) have had to wait this many years before the software even started to utilize it.
cakessi 2 years ago
Maybe, but today PS3 and xbox 360 cost the same. Also, kinda what you said, more comapnies are finding the power of the PS3 and are developing for it exclusively, sadly. The best would be if all games came to every console, then again, Microsoft and Sony wouldn't be as compedetive as they are now, which would mean more expensive and crappy hardware :P
Dauglashalfve 2 years ago
I know this was a long time ago, but I just wanted to point out that if companies aren't ready to takw risks, like outting in new processor etc, then the consoles will never become better, you don't wanna buy the same shit over and over onlye because games aren't being produced for your own console. Like the Wii was suckish and har to program for at first, just look at the game Red Steal. It sucked and was totally laggy with the motionsensor thingy.
Dauglashalfve 2 years ago
A new processor is one thing. But Sony decided to put something that they new would be trouble for the programers into an outrageously expensive system and totally screw early adopters who paid for the next greatest thing. Only to find that they could have waited until the system was reasonably priced and reasonably utilized. Sony should have been in a better position to ease the transition for developers. And in turn, doing what was best for their loyal fanbase.
P.S. Wii sucks balls.
cakessi 2 years ago
If you ever played wii with like your family or goofed around with you friends with it, you would think it was fun, it's just not a system that you play all the time 6 hours a day.
Also, in my opinion, the release price for the PS3 wasn't expensive... If me, a 16 year old can afford it, the most people should. I even bought a new one cause my old one broke, now I have a slim and think all the money I've put in to PS3 has been worth it.
Dauglashalfve 2 years ago
I disagree.
I don't see that as a problem at all. Just as I didn't see the Sega Saturn's specs as a problem.
You only have to look at the results of the programmers hard work, and getting to know the hardware properly.
ExtremeBogom 2 years ago
Maybe it wasn't a problem for you...
However, I feel bad for all the people that went out and payed rediculous amounts of money for a PS3 at launch only to find out that they would have to wait 3 years for a game that took advantage of the system. I still feel that Sony should have been able to help the developers out better at launch so that the early adopters would have a decent game to play for their hard earned dollars.
cakessi 2 years ago
Yeah It's true, we did have to wait a good year or so.
People also bought it for Blu-Ray though remember.
ExtremeBogom 2 years ago
I am glad that you feel that your investment was worth it. I am also glad I waited and bought a PS3 Slim 250gb in December.
No sarcasm there. I really hope you are happy.
I certainly feel that PS3 is going to kick ass this year.
cakessi 2 years ago
@cakessi i feel sorry that a game thats been out for almost 3 years on the ps3 still looks better then anything on the 360 and anything coming out on the 360
thrasha666 1 year ago
Really... WTF?
You are not serious?
This video is sooooo old.
Nothing new or impressive here. I have both systems and play them both equally. Go have your flame-war elsewhere if you aren't going to intelligently respond to my comments.
cakessi 1 year ago
i know, PS3 Owns all. GOW3, Demon's souls, Uncharted, heavy rain, etc, all blow the 360 away.
lemans24fan 1 year ago
Early rumor is that Sony is looking for a more traditional CPU for the next console...Not a Cell unit. They must have read my comment.
cakessi 2 years ago
Can i blow up the earth with then? lol
amartinez97 2 years ago
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ps3 is great but the 360 has a little better graphics
vrz07 2 years ago
better graphics? what graphics? what game?
StreetFighterJoe 2 years ago
most games of the 360 has better graphics than ps3. everyone knows it.
vrz07 2 years ago
better than killzone 2, uncharted 2, resistance 2, heavy rain???? WHAT GAME?
StreetFighterJoe 2 years ago
no ps3 has better graphics LOL
killzoen 2
uncharted 2 both have better graphics then naything on 360
Louis43thebeastmast 2 years ago
Due to the fact that the Xbox 360 is cheaper and less time consuming to develop for than the PS3... that's reasonable. If I was to design a game, I do the Xbox 360 first and add any tweaks for the PS3.
The PS3 main advantage is better multi processing hardware, not graphics.
Come to think of it... nobody seems to care about the game audio as much.
dessertmonkeyjk 2 years ago
thats not true at all
roach442 2 years ago
splinter cell extreme ways music
PcGamer4ever1 2 years ago
Even IF Uncharted looks better CLOSE UP, (which is what you wrote) nobody is going to go that close to admire work. If it looks good without having to put your nose at the screen, who cares. Besides, in my opinion, if you are arguing that graphics make a game, you are a retarded twat. Game play comes first, then bugs (which goes hand in hand with game play), then story, then graphics. If you can't play the game, what is the point in arguing about who has more polygons in there ass.
irift3 2 years ago
I love how you use ALL CAPS HAR HAR ITS BETTA CUS I USE CAPS LOCK
CheapAssMediaProd 2 years ago
Are you fucking retarded? Since I can't actually speak with some one, I have to emphasize it with CAPS. I seriously hate retarded children that can't come up with a valid argument to counter with and instead target features of my post that INTELLIGENT people would understand to try make it seem stupid.
irift3 2 years ago
sorry didnt mean to reply to you. meant to press Post a Text Comment. it wasnt directed at you. its at the Video Title
CheapAssMediaProd 2 years ago
I feel like a total jackass. =(
irift3 2 years ago
im sorry buddy but the grafix are the best part of any game the embrace you in to the game making you feel what the caricature is going throe seeing the emotion to say that the grafix don't matter you are the fool because all the game's are the same for the best part on all consoles the only thing different is the grafix
available2477 2 years ago
You probably like the FPS genre only or are still young because a true game not only defines its genre, but changes how you view it. There have been many successful RPGs with questionable graphics, but as long as the story and game play mechanics are there, it doesn't matter. You can have a shiny rock and call it a work of art, but I will take a well written dusty book any day =).
irift3 2 years ago 2
is that ninja gaiden sigma 2 at 0:22?
DivineMasterRecon032 2 years ago
Rofl if you compare current games to your vid it makes them look like ps2. GT5, KZ2, Uncharted, RE5 xD
MilkThatEmo 2 years ago 7
it just depends on what games you like i like splinter cell 4 the 360 and metal gear solid on ps3
Pliskin47 2 years ago
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bioshock145 2 years ago
stop fanboys
both systems are awesome wtf wrong with yo guys?!
KILLERWSYAN 2 years ago
Yeh nicely said but can i correct your grammer? " Stop it, You fanboys. All systems have good points and bad points. The next gen ones are good but are purly ment for the 3 years untill the next one comes out. If you have a good amount of money and want good graphics and everything but a high specd PC" =D
NathanAndrewLonsdale 2 years ago
lol yeah
KILLERWSYAN 2 years ago
lacking knowledge and caught in illusions, thats whats wrong with them
jurisnake8 2 years ago
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No.
How does the math work?
PlayStation 3 exclusively = More expensive, longer development time, smaller audience of gamers and smaller audience of online purchases compared to the Xbox 360. Ofcourse that simple math leaves many previous die-hard Sony entusiastic developers to turn multi-system.
Even if Sony has sold over 20+ milion PlayStation 3's it's still selling a fraction of games and online content to the Xbox 360 as the Xbox 360 gaming audience is simply alot bigger per ratio.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
No... some multiplat games sell alot more on ps3. The Exclsuives also sell very good and the online community is really big.
GeForce47 2 years ago
BorkaBonum
Lets see here..
Insomniac Games has released a game every year SINCE launch.
Naughty Dog has released 2 games in 2 years..
Need I continue on that subject? BTW, they sell just great.
Most exclusives on PS3 or X360 sell 1-2 million. Some sell 3 million. Then some games like Halo, GT, Gears, MGS, etc, sell 4-10 million.
Uncharted still has ANY X360 game beat in several areas, including: lighting, audio, shadows, chara. polys/models, textures, etc, etc.
snowman8510 2 years ago
Insomniac Games has released every year since launch, whatever. But they also produced Resistance and Resistance "two" which is the absolute worst games I've ever played - and I'm being absolute honest here. Plus their Ratchet and Clank game looks terrible - they didn't even bother upscaling the resolution to "1080p".
Uncharted is not a big deal. You're looking at things as they were 2007.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
BorkaBonus
That your opinion.They got great reviews. Ratchet & Clank games are 720p, how is that terrible.
Native 720p>>>Upscaled 1080p
Uncharted, technically speaking, has ANY X360 game beat.
Sony has lost a billion on PS3, MS just on RRoD, has lost 3 billion.
Each MGS game has sold 5-7 million, MGS4 sold 4.75 million. Hows that bad?
In 2 years X360 sold 18 million, yet in 2 years PS3 sold 21 million.
Killzone 1 sold about 1 million, Killzone 2 had NO chance at sellings millions
snowman8510 2 years ago
uhm ok yeah sony is loosing money but it's not just sony microsoft lost at least 1 billion on repairing 360 that doesn't even last long till you get it repair again, also 28million 360 1/4 of that pretty much is "rebuy" w/c is 2nd 3rd or 4th one of some owners. not only that vista failed a lot.
reggae1188 2 years ago
Okay, last post for now or else I'll eat up this entire page.
I think Xbox 360 even passed the 30 milion bar recently. And granted, it has a history prone to defects, but one important kicker in this worth mentioning is the effort they do put in the service - even if it seems unneccessary.
Me and my little gang of friends with Xbox 360 has had one error each. Launch units failed after three years, one after 18 months and mine had E74 after 12 months - replaced by my door within 10 days.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
DVD yeah 9-12 gigs but devs can't use all those gigs some of them are for security purposes w/c is fucked up.
also every game microsofts solds, % of it goes to sony.
reggae1188 2 years ago
I doubt it has to do with security, it might be a justification done for the crowd but I doubt that is accurate facts. If Microsoft notices developers complaining over space limitations there is always an additional (if accurate) ~25-33% to get from each disc - and with Unreal 3 being basicly the fundamental technology on the market today I sense it will take a little time getting to that point.
I don't know if money goes to Sony, but Sony is bigger than "SCEE" alone.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
Native 720p on a native 1080p monitor looks blurry and smudgy due to the way the LCD monitors works.
I'm playing the Uncharted on my Full-HD monitor as I write this. It looks good, but it's far as technically compelling as the first Gears of War even which also runs AntiAliasing filters.
Sony has lost billionS on even producing the PlayStation 3 system and commissioning the hardware. Microsoft has had a BUDGET spanning 3 billion at a most.
Last monthsale
X360: 120.000+
PS3: 37.000+
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
Selling "just great" isn't good enough.
Metal Gear Solid 4, an well-established franchise - outsold by Gears of War "one", the first installation in that respective franschise.
Gears of War 2 sold 2.000.000 copies in 48 hours. Only at all comparable number on PlayStation 3 is Killzone 2 with 750.000 copies in seven days.
Even if the PlayStation 3 isn't lagging behind too miserably to the Xbox 360 it is, in fact, sold to the greater market as an affordable BluRay player.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
also yeah sony did quite bad years ago but their doing a great job right now they did lost partners but at LEAST sony don't lie to the consumers as much as microsoft falcon jasper what's next?
Also how can you expect sony to make a comeback right away, also DVD is starting to hold back game developement now due to the necessary cuts they need to do and compressed sounds are getting old. ff XIII gameplay has been comprmised due to DVD limitations no jap VA cuz of the 360 quests were cut.
reggae1188 2 years ago
Microsoft lied? They did deliver the Falcon. And now they're producing Xbox 360s with 45nm CPUs. The Red Ring error is basicly gone, newer problems span E74.
A DLDVD holds up to ~9GB of data, some mention up to 12GB. The games on the Xbox 360 is currently no bigger than 6,7GB which speaks for a certain future headroom. I'm judging by the installation size on the harddrive - and as the disc is not spinning at all during installed-to-HDD operation it speaks for no data being loaded from disc.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
yeah they did change falcon and jasper, but what i meant is did falcon help?? jasper helped a little but there are still who's getting an RROD and error of some shit.
reggae1188 2 years ago
Yeah, but remember it's only the fresh-out-of-the-factory at the time who is running the newer chips - stores and retailers still have a stock to sell indiscriminately (spelling) of the hardware revision as these internal differences are very tuned down.
You can detect newer models from another by looking at the ID and production date, but not before purchase. So maybe the newer users getting RROD errors might not run the hardware they believe at all times.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
also don't get me wrong I love gears of war series but if the game is short it's not really worth it, HALO's old pretty much most people who'll buy it are just HALO fanboys, gears of war 3 if there is, is not gonna be a big hit anymore since ps3's quantum (GOW ripp-of if you say) is coming out. w/c i think is better, for me japanese made character ar better compare to EU or US. also as you mention before sony pissed of a lot of business partners?? well microsoft pissed of millions of consumers.
reggae1188 2 years ago
Gears of War one is rather short, granted. Gears of War 2 is at a least 10 hours long worth of campaign if you're playing on anything above Casual, which is infact longer than the Killzone 2 campaign which took me 8-9 hours on the first run. But there's alot more to it than just play it through, that's where the trophies and achievements might help you see more replay value.
I doubt 9+ milions are dedicated Halo 3 "fanboys". Halo set a fundamental standard in 2002, causing it's wide success.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
yeah im not gonna lie i used to be a HALO fanboy but do you think being fanboy lasts forever?? i quit after playing halo3, it's just like halo 2 w/ next gen graphics so do you think all those 9 million you were talking about will buy it??
of coarse there are people who gave up on the 360 cuz it failed them, and some quit cuz they are sick of it. HALO is not like final fantasy or whatsoever that everygame has different gameplay, while halo is just pretty much the same every installments.
reggae1188 2 years ago
Bungie sticked to what worked. If they reworked the formula people would be upset, by doing this Halo 3 doesn't feel like a new game, but plays as a new game. Which is sort of the thing they go with Halo 3 ODST, they try a little different approach - either the fans love it, or hate it, it's hard to come to a solution that fits everyone.
Myself I love Halo for it's pick-up friendly design and it's still far from dead thanks to a dedicated online community and new content once in a while.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
And you don't need to be a "fanboy" for playing a specific game. I like Halo, I grew up with it and I've seen its impact upon the genre and the industry, but I don't portrait it as the best game on the planet simply becuase it's on my prefered system. It's old, but does the work done without compromises.
And so far this little argument/discussion seems to be going civil, which is rare to see but all the yet better for everyone. Though I tend to consume the entire page in posts.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
BorkaBonum
I have this website that compares Gears 1&2 to Uncharted..Guess who wins?
It mostly was close ups that deal with character polys/models, then it has lighting effects, and particle effects. Audio is ALSO superior on Uncharted. Uncharted STILL has more high rez textures than ANY other console game this generation.
You are correct on the amount of data currently used on X360 on the DVD9. But it wouldn't expand much, since MS has to put the copy rights and such on the disc as well.
snowman8510 2 years ago 3
WHO compared it? That is the most important factor as objectivity is a rare jewel.
I played Uncharted, as I told you, and it's faaar from anything technically amazing today. Particle effects are the basic of the basic, lightning effects wasn't even noticable, shading was nothing out of what you'd expect for any game this generation and the audio wasn't either at all noticable.
If you want the best audio representation; Battlefield Bad Company is the thing for you.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
BorkaBonum
Dis you know that characters in Uncharted have polygons from 25k-30k, while Gears 2 only has 11k-15k? What about 7.1 LPCM audio in Uncharted, compared to 5.1 DD in Gears 1&2? Then there's Uncharted which has 2xMSAA with HDR lighting compared to Gears 2xMSAA.
Need I continue?
snowman8510 2 years ago
What? You've proven nothing. Plus the characters aren't much detailed in Uncharted. Fuck, I just had it on the screen hours ago and it's nowhere close to the technical compelling visuals as Gears of War 2.
7.1 LPCM and 5.1 DD means nothing as Uncharted still packs a rather weak array of audio.
I can state alot of unneccessary, plain stupid, features of the games but I don't see how that is the least interesting in this argument. You're hoping this is still 2007, which its not.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
So I'm guessing the fact that Gears 2 only has 15k polys for its chara. compares to Uncharted's 30k?
Gears 2 has NO HDR lighting, yet, Uncharted does.
ETC, ETC..
You can't argue with technical facts.
snowman8510 2 years ago 5
@snowman8510 look up alan wake for 360,halo reach,portal 2,metro 2033.
liltp404 1 year ago
@liltp404
All those you said are sub-HD. Not to mention, out of those games you listed, only Alan Wake stands out for being a technical feat; but it falls way below what several PS3 exclusives do.
snowman8510 1 year ago
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@liltp404
All those you said are sub-HD. Not to mention, out of those games you listed, only Alan Wake stands out for being a technical feat; but it falls way below what several PS3 exclusives do.
snowman8510 1 year ago
@liltp404 halo reach beta sucked halo 3 was good and alan wake sucks and metro 2033 never heard of this
ITzR34LITY 1 year ago
@liltp404 funny you mention portal because that game is exclusive for PC....console versions dont get updates :)
komahoby 1 year ago
@komahoby the ps3 verison does cuzz its getting steam and steam cloud watch the video.
conradlee65 1 year ago
@snowman8510 Exactly, thats why i play PC for all other games
komahoby 1 year ago
LMAO quantity vs quality?
reggae1188 2 years ago
What? What are you even quoting, Reggae?
Sony is the one loosing the most money this generation. They pissed off alot of important business partners in 2006 and is loosing partners as time goes by. The PlayStation 3 simply sells too poorly and the ratio per games bought per unit is too low to make it worth the exclusives if Sony doesn't pay for basicly everything, not just the publishing.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
It's good to see that developers really use the power of the PS3. It's a shame that Microsoft does't have that much first party developers so there are hardly any engine made speciefecly for the xbox. Sony has alot more first party developers with a engine specialy made for the PS3.
WolkieNL 2 years ago
at Wolkie: ps3 is a lot more difficult to programm than the 360 with its symmetric cores, one reason with many game-versions are more efficient on the 360 than on ps3.
jurisnake8 2 years ago
Thats true but what i mean is the engine specialy made for the xbox. So far as I know only Lionhead, Rare, Turn 10 and microsoft game studios has a specially made engine for the xbox and thats a shame :(. Also alot of xbox exclusice are made with a engine for every console like gears of war that is made off the Unreal Engine. Sure it look beautifull but what if they made a special engine only for the xbox and with that engine they made Gears that would be insane :D
WolkieNL 2 years ago
and 1 reason why ps3 exclusives can't be on the 360 is because of the symmetric cores.
uncharted can't be on the 360 since the 360 doesn't have that much processing power as for the graphics yeah 360 can handle it but moving lots of object at the same time now that's a different story for the 360
reggae1188 2 years ago
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Reggae, how can you come to know that? You do understand these claims are based upon the company developing the game having deals with Sony, right?
Uncharted is far from most high-end Xbox 360 games in terms of technologies and the stuff you provided is simply up to programming, not to hardware. What's so difficult with moving objects? It's only a matter of animations and alligning a path for objects to move, it's usually a very slim hardware stress from just that.
BorkaBonum 2 years ago
processing power is needed for all those stuffs being processed at the same time moving objects is just one of those, with lighting, real environemental physics and stuffs, as for the graphics i say their the same.
reggae1188 2 years ago
yes, but if programmed correctly, the game will run correctly, much better than on X360. Developers don't pay attention to the fact Sony outlined how to program for it already, and many developers are ignorant and lazy. I'd know.
quackinacan 2 years ago
Yep, in 2006-2007.
ncole90 2 years ago
BorkaBonum
You also say PS3's GPU lacks the power..
Another BS statment..Not really surprising..
If it lacks power explain how Uncharted 2 has ANY game BEAT in animations, lighting, character polys, and TIES Crysis in textures?
Hell Uncharted 2 is BEYOND anything X360 can produce by 2x.
snowman8510 2 years ago
Halo is like 4 years old all you xboxers get a new game
GMODCREATOR 2 years ago 4
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i hate gaystation
ACDC983 2 years ago
gaystation??? of all the 3 consoles, playstation is the least gay. :\ in fact, i hear that the girls deliberatly aviod it because it's too 'macho'.
nakedfunk 2 years ago 8
you dont know nothing
shitbox fan , are you?
gonacho96 2 years ago 3
KIllzone have the best graphic and crysis is not bether the physik in killzone is amazing smoke WOOOOOOW
odis1232 2 years ago
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Extream Ways, great song.
JackalxKnight 2 years ago
Halo 3 best graphics? are you kidding me? it has the most cartoony graphics in the world.........thats a fact and you cannot change it.....
DragonmightX 2 years ago 3
lol how the hell did halo 3 win best graphics for last year? mgs 4 came out by then... gt 5 prologue even gta 4 which is multiplatform!! i thought there was some trade off... ne1 know?
PS3ROCK2509 2 years ago
halo 3 didn't win best graphics...
Razill8pwns 2 years ago 2
Invest in a good pc, see the TRUE power of gaming.
MCslick101 2 years ago
Some games are meant to be played on a console, such as racing games. Some FPS/TPS games are quite good on a console aswell, though I prefer playing them on a PC.
Gaming on a PC becomes crucial in games that require quick reactions, multi-task actions and precision pointing, where as gaming on a console becomes more crucial in games that require less of what was stated above, especially precision pointing. Racing games have never been my favorite on a PC... Continued in next comment...
Taizunx 2 years ago
, while they're my second most favorited genre on a console, and this is all because of the smooth sticks you find on most console controllers now a days.
Taizunx 2 years ago
You can easily get a controller for your PC.
MCslick101 2 years ago
Yea I know that.
Taizunx 2 years ago
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pcmaster888 2 years ago