Beauty is learnt?? Certainly not! It is precision beyond mathematics. Humans can see beauty because of our spiritual involvement with creation. Denial as the dualistic opposite, is destruction and ugliness. Both are part of the dimension we live in, like life and death. A great image of the universe to compare with the nebula is above Athens, from google earth. It is like cancer... and there, the paradox, the need for further creation.
Have anybody seen human figures while examine this nebula?
You have to sse it .... you can have a look to the nebulosa just using a binocular .... it is like to see a wave of green water .... è una visione celestiale che ti lascia attonito, se hai avuto la fortuna di leggere e capire pagine come quelle scritte da Dante ... non puoi fare altro che piangere ...
sorry but i'm used to speak with ignorants and retards, and i probably misunderstand the meaning of your question.. simple explanation is-human brain and mind are toxicated by the 'ciwilisation' but the conscious mind underneath is just begging for the answers, thats why people are curious etc.
Because the nature is amazing especially Orion nebula, for centuries astronomers and philosophers were amazed by the universe trying to understand about what is out there, we still looking out there trying to understand the purpose of life.
your question is subjective, it does not suit to this context. But anyway, there could be so many answers according to each individual perceptions and cognition. Some people would be astonished, scared, amazed, terrified, and others don't mind.
Say I draw a picture of a nebula, and I do a good job. So good it looks like a photo. I then show it to someone who finds it amazing. How can they find that amazing when it is not even reality? They are finding the idea of a nebula amazing. But why is a nebula an amazing idea? It's just gas, and they've never experienced it first hand. Why isn't a blade of grass considered amazing? It is more complex.
I think it is the contrast of our more complex obtuse selves and simple untouchable elegance.
I think there are an affect and cognitive factors to determine the perception of the nebula. The Orion nebula has some spiritual sense, Egyptians considered as the soul of god Osiris and the pyramids were a mirror image of Orion belt. very much the same for babylonians.
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 No. A nebula is not just gas and dust. It´s a star formation place. People actually should find stars amazing :) Star life cycle is amazing! All chemical elements, including those in our bodies ... were formed inside stars (except hydrogen). We living creatures are... "ashes" of stars. :) That´s my personal definition of "amazing" ;)
But what I was saying is if you take a picture of a fictional star and show it to someone why would they find it amazing, if they indeed do? Like those spray paint pictures of non-existent star systems. I doubt that people like such pictures for their theoretical functionality or property, but like it for the beauty. So, stars are beautiful. But why? Why are the heavens so profound and pretty? Why do I think it myself? Because they are or because chemical impulses in my brain say they are?
Further, if the heavens are of themselves beautiful, why does a fabricated representation of one engender admiration? And if it is chemical impulses in my brain then what do those chemical impulses know about beauty? A star is considered to be more beautiful than a blade of grass, but why does my brain tell me that?
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 Amazing questions! :D Our neural mechanisms, genetically determined, were all provided by evolution. The environment selected all those mutations... Eg. compassion is an instinct that was developed under tribal conditions for sharing goods (tribal survival). Plus, we categorize everything as a means of segmenting knowledge for ease in understanding. Sun, light... means "life".
@HannahZepplg But if that were the case it would mean that the admiration for the beauty of a nebula would have to be realized in "lower" life forms, too. We can see instincts in animals, but admiration for beauty? We don't see that, so one would have to say that it is most likely only the human conscience that sees the heavens are beautiful - a "recent" development. A nebula was not seen in a photograph until recently in history, so my question is, What makes a brain see a nebula as beautiful?
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 I think that the concept of beauty is a learned behavior. But beauty is one of the most relative concept. Highly context dependent. Of course, influenced by culture, experience and learning, but... everything we find beautiful can be traceable to the structure and function of our brain? Someone said that beauty exists not in things but "in the mind that contemplates them."
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 The neural basis for appreciating beauty? As i said, I dont know. :) I think that science has not found an answer for that.. yet.
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 There´s no life without sunlight. :D Simple as that. Then, our brain probably primatively associated the sun's light to life ... then ... to beauty. Well, I do not know. :) Or maybe is just the "beauty" of the mistery. The human brain is a fascinating organ. But we have a limited capacity for processing information. :)
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 Every atom of iron within our blood was once inside of a star, my friend. We are made of stardust.. :) This means... that we are star stuff... admiring stars. :)
you should all shut the fuck up with your religion shit , just watch the damn video and take the info in your dumb head , it's an astronomy video , debate on that istead of jesus, allah , judas and pals ...
PrayerisLoveinAction, I just finished writing a long, long letter to you and was going to mail it to your 'send message' thing on your youtube page but, after somewhere like 2 hours of writing, it won't let me unless you accept me as a friend. Would you please trust me and do that? I put a lot of work into it and pretty-well bared my soul to you. I'd appreciate it. I AM trustworthy.
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questn123505, the pigfucks you talk about are Christians with their piggy little minds and, even worse than Christians...MOSLIMS... with their murderous intent, receiving messages from their fucking allah (god shit on his name)to torture and murder peace-loving folks and all the rest of the goddamned religious idiots who can't figure it out yet and are afraid to cross the street, much less have a damn LIFE without cowering behind their imaginary 'gods.' When, oh when will they get some BRAIS???
This is where the Kingdom of God will come through to rescue us! It keeps getting brighter, and astronomers dont know why......but I do!!! God is getting ready to come. The angels are mounting up!Come soon Lord Jesus!
zideffil-your brain is on parade here. We can all see here by your choice of words just how unintelligent you are and you are the one hiding. You need to get yourself some education! Then get a life!
intheshadowof, I must say that I don't usually use words like pigfuck, but sometimes I get so frustrated by the nievete of Christians...My dad and all his family were ruined by a Christian-based religion and I also wasted many years believing in the impossible and now that I have learned the truth after much searching, it leaves a bad taste in my mouh. I have a high IQ and stupidity grates on my nerves. That Christians have the audacity to argue the age of the earth with learned men of science..
zideffil-you may have problems with one person or persons that does mean that everybody is that person or ppl. You need to know that Prayer is a good friend of mine. and she is just coming to Christ after having had someone all most take her life. So you never know who you are saying these things to. Most ppl that call themselves christian are liars. Those morons on TV are money hungry wolfs in sheep clothing. Trust me my friend, there are times that so called christians really try my patience.
intheshadowof, I do sincerely apologise. You are right - I obviously don't know the stories of the people I was saying things to and I sometimes get carried away, thinking about things that happened in MY life done by people who have no bearing on yours or other's lives. That prayerislove had a terrible thing happen to her, I am TRULY sorry. What bothers me are the 'way out there fundamentalists who speak in tongues and roll around on the church floor and the awful 'lady' who runs Jesus Camp.
intheshadow, I went to church as a kid and believed up until around 4 years ago, not in all of it, but I at least believed that Jesus existed and although I can't make myself believe in a virgin birth, I at least believed that he was somehow divine and fooled myself into believing that he saved my life a number of times. Through meticulous research and hrs. & hrs. of reading, I found out that it was all in my mind. Once I learned the truth, everything that had always bothered me fell into place.
Prayerisloveinaction, with a name like that, you are clearly a lost soul. I would like to correct you and say that love in action is goddamned-well getting off of one's ass and doing something for someone instead of wasting one's time talking to an invisible space-god-man where it has been proven without any doubt, that 'prayer' to 'him' gives the exact same results as praying to one's dink.
hard to see in 240p
TGUlricksen 1 month ago
space is so odd
thekiwikiller12 4 months ago
heaven is behind the orion,,thats why scince can't explore deeper..
aan07mangin 5 months ago 2
I would love to see beetlegeuse go super nova in our life time...better than winning the lottery!
TheSulphuric 7 months ago
Space is pretty. I'm going to move there one day.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago 10
@1971SuperLead Well, you DO live there.
supaexi 1 month ago
Beauty is learnt?? Certainly not! It is precision beyond mathematics. Humans can see beauty because of our spiritual involvement with creation. Denial as the dualistic opposite, is destruction and ugliness. Both are part of the dimension we live in, like life and death. A great image of the universe to compare with the nebula is above Athens, from google earth. It is like cancer... and there, the paradox, the need for further creation.
Have anybody seen human figures while examine this nebula?
satanas237 1 year ago
@satanas237 WTF, You need help.
300tunes 1 year ago
how bigs r nebula's btw?:/..
nosafing1 1 year ago
@nosafing1 I think the Orion Nebula is about 24 light years across. Pretty damn, big.
booksandvideos 1 year ago
@nosafing1 Yep. 24. By comparison, the Milk Way and Solar System... are about 100,000 light years and 2 light years respectively.
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
You have to sse it .... you can have a look to the nebulosa just using a binocular .... it is like to see a wave of green water .... è una visione celestiale che ti lascia attonito, se hai avuto la fortuna di leggere e capire pagine come quelle scritte da Dante ... non puoi fare altro che piangere ...
OrfeoLemmon 2 years ago
Why do humans find things to be amazing?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 years ago
because they are a lot smarter than you'll ever be.
rastamaniakTHC 2 years ago
Gee, why'd you go on the offensive? Don't like my question? How does it challenge you?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 years ago
sorry but i'm used to speak with ignorants and retards, and i probably misunderstand the meaning of your question.. simple explanation is-human brain and mind are toxicated by the 'ciwilisation' but the conscious mind underneath is just begging for the answers, thats why people are curious etc.
rastamaniakTHC 2 years ago
I'm not sure that answers my question, Jerry.
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 years ago
You're not sure, so you think about it..
rastamaniakTHC 2 years ago
Because the nature is amazing especially Orion nebula, for centuries astronomers and philosophers were amazed by the universe trying to understand about what is out there, we still looking out there trying to understand the purpose of life.
TomasKatari 2 years ago
But that is defining a term with the term itself. (i.e. Why do we find certain things amazing?... Because, they are amazing.)
Why do people find stars amazing is still the question?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 years ago
your question is subjective, it does not suit to this context. But anyway, there could be so many answers according to each individual perceptions and cognition. Some people would be astonished, scared, amazed, terrified, and others don't mind.
Do you find it amazing and why?
TomasKatari 2 years ago
Say I draw a picture of a nebula, and I do a good job. So good it looks like a photo. I then show it to someone who finds it amazing. How can they find that amazing when it is not even reality? They are finding the idea of a nebula amazing. But why is a nebula an amazing idea? It's just gas, and they've never experienced it first hand. Why isn't a blade of grass considered amazing? It is more complex.
I think it is the contrast of our more complex obtuse selves and simple untouchable elegance.
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 years ago
I think there are an affect and cognitive factors to determine the perception of the nebula. The Orion nebula has some spiritual sense, Egyptians considered as the soul of god Osiris and the pyramids were a mirror image of Orion belt. very much the same for babylonians.
TomasKatari 2 years ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 No. A nebula is not just gas and dust. It´s a star formation place. People actually should find stars amazing :) Star life cycle is amazing! All chemical elements, including those in our bodies ... were formed inside stars (except hydrogen). We living creatures are... "ashes" of stars. :) That´s my personal definition of "amazing" ;)
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
But what I was saying is if you take a picture of a fictional star and show it to someone why would they find it amazing, if they indeed do? Like those spray paint pictures of non-existent star systems. I doubt that people like such pictures for their theoretical functionality or property, but like it for the beauty. So, stars are beautiful. But why? Why are the heavens so profound and pretty? Why do I think it myself? Because they are or because chemical impulses in my brain say they are?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 1 year ago
Further, if the heavens are of themselves beautiful, why does a fabricated representation of one engender admiration? And if it is chemical impulses in my brain then what do those chemical impulses know about beauty? A star is considered to be more beautiful than a blade of grass, but why does my brain tell me that?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 1 year ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 Amazing questions! :D Our neural mechanisms, genetically determined, were all provided by evolution. The environment selected all those mutations... Eg. compassion is an instinct that was developed under tribal conditions for sharing goods (tribal survival). Plus, we categorize everything as a means of segmenting knowledge for ease in understanding. Sun, light... means "life".
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
@HannahZepplg But if that were the case it would mean that the admiration for the beauty of a nebula would have to be realized in "lower" life forms, too. We can see instincts in animals, but admiration for beauty? We don't see that, so one would have to say that it is most likely only the human conscience that sees the heavens are beautiful - a "recent" development. A nebula was not seen in a photograph until recently in history, so my question is, What makes a brain see a nebula as beautiful?
Thisisnotmyrealname8 1 year ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 I think that the concept of beauty is a learned behavior. But beauty is one of the most relative concept. Highly context dependent. Of course, influenced by culture, experience and learning, but... everything we find beautiful can be traceable to the structure and function of our brain? Someone said that beauty exists not in things but "in the mind that contemplates them."
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 The neural basis for appreciating beauty? As i said, I dont know. :) I think that science has not found an answer for that.. yet.
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 There´s no life without sunlight. :D Simple as that. Then, our brain probably primatively associated the sun's light to life ... then ... to beauty. Well, I do not know. :) Or maybe is just the "beauty" of the mistery. The human brain is a fascinating organ. But we have a limited capacity for processing information. :)
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 Every atom of iron within our blood was once inside of a star, my friend. We are made of stardust.. :) This means... that we are star stuff... admiring stars. :)
HannahZepplg 1 year ago
That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
iluvlorie 2 years ago 2
Amazing.
carpentersdaughter2 2 years ago
Xibalba, the Mayan underworld right there.
Xiba2012 2 years ago
I must agree with the buddy downhere!
Why don´t you just enjoy the science?!
Take this less important debates to other stupid people who believe in the same shit as you.
guisurf87 2 years ago
you should all shut the fuck up with your religion shit , just watch the damn video and take the info in your dumb head , it's an astronomy video , debate on that istead of jesus, allah , judas and pals ...
mpower6531 2 years ago 2
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PrayerisLoveinaction 3 years ago
PrayerisLoveinAction, I just finished writing a long, long letter to you and was going to mail it to your 'send message' thing on your youtube page but, after somewhere like 2 hours of writing, it won't let me unless you accept me as a friend. Would you please trust me and do that? I put a lot of work into it and pretty-well bared my soul to you. I'd appreciate it. I AM trustworthy.
zideffil 3 years ago
questn123505-you sound like a really damaged person here. You are obviously not to intelligent either. You can tell by what you are saying here.
intheshadowofHiswing 3 years ago
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questn123505, the pigfucks you talk about are Christians with their piggy little minds and, even worse than Christians...MOSLIMS... with their murderous intent, receiving messages from their fucking allah (god shit on his name)to torture and murder peace-loving folks and all the rest of the goddamned religious idiots who can't figure it out yet and are afraid to cross the street, much less have a damn LIFE without cowering behind their imaginary 'gods.' When, oh when will they get some BRAIS???
zideffil 3 years ago
Orion Nebula had spiritual meaning to the ancient people; the pyramid of Egypt was built with this concern. This might be a passage to afterlife.
TomasKatari 2 years ago
This is where the Kingdom of God will come through to rescue us! It keeps getting brighter, and astronomers dont know why......but I do!!! God is getting ready to come. The angels are mounting up!Come soon Lord Jesus!
comazzi07 3 years ago 2
Clearly, you are an idiot...it remains for us normal folk to figure out what kind...actually, now that I think about it, it doesn't really matter.
zideffil 3 years ago
zideffil-your brain is on parade here. We can all see here by your choice of words just how unintelligent you are and you are the one hiding. You need to get yourself some education! Then get a life!
intheshadowofHiswing 3 years ago
intheshadowof, I must say that I don't usually use words like pigfuck, but sometimes I get so frustrated by the nievete of Christians...My dad and all his family were ruined by a Christian-based religion and I also wasted many years believing in the impossible and now that I have learned the truth after much searching, it leaves a bad taste in my mouh. I have a high IQ and stupidity grates on my nerves. That Christians have the audacity to argue the age of the earth with learned men of science..
zideffil 3 years ago
zideffil-you may have problems with one person or persons that does mean that everybody is that person or ppl. You need to know that Prayer is a good friend of mine. and she is just coming to Christ after having had someone all most take her life. So you never know who you are saying these things to. Most ppl that call themselves christian are liars. Those morons on TV are money hungry wolfs in sheep clothing. Trust me my friend, there are times that so called christians really try my patience.
intheshadowofHiswing 3 years ago
intheshadowof, I do sincerely apologise. You are right - I obviously don't know the stories of the people I was saying things to and I sometimes get carried away, thinking about things that happened in MY life done by people who have no bearing on yours or other's lives. That prayerislove had a terrible thing happen to her, I am TRULY sorry. What bothers me are the 'way out there fundamentalists who speak in tongues and roll around on the church floor and the awful 'lady' who runs Jesus Camp.
zideffil 3 years ago
intheshadow, I went to church as a kid and believed up until around 4 years ago, not in all of it, but I at least believed that Jesus existed and although I can't make myself believe in a virgin birth, I at least believed that he was somehow divine and fooled myself into believing that he saved my life a number of times. Through meticulous research and hrs. & hrs. of reading, I found out that it was all in my mind. Once I learned the truth, everything that had always bothered me fell into place.
zideffil 3 years ago
What is the truth?
TomasKatari 2 years ago
Amen!
PrayerisLoveinaction 3 years ago
Prayerisloveinaction, with a name like that, you are clearly a lost soul. I would like to correct you and say that love in action is goddamned-well getting off of one's ass and doing something for someone instead of wasting one's time talking to an invisible space-god-man where it has been proven without any doubt, that 'prayer' to 'him' gives the exact same results as praying to one's dink.
zideffil 3 years ago
Amazing. It's almost like someone designed it.
webfryes 3 years ago 3
Web: Someone did. :)
Mekelsior 3 years ago 3
Yeah, nature.
jaysatanfox 3 years ago 4
All these moments. Are like tears in time.
FatherWarhol 4 years ago
much life in Orion sirs..
johnsmdm 4 years ago
I wanna travell to Orion like the replicant of Blade Runner!!!
VademecumExInferis 4 years ago
Truly incredible!
forkaverde 4 years ago
HE LOOKS JUST LIKE DR. EVIL!
RaeSenpai 4 years ago
Dr D. Vider!!!
FatherWarhol 4 years ago