How can it be "offensive" to discuss details & structure of your religion? He stomps off like a petulant child because someone dared to ask a question, in good faith, to get a better understanding of Scientology...to be so defensive, suggests he doesn't believe in what he apparently holds as truth/has no faith in what he must believe for Scientology sake... Odd someone so well placed in an organizational hierarchy can't passionately explain his own fundamental beliefs-no matter what they are.
@moeguy222 Because he would be against his own doctrine to lie that there is no Xenu, so he had to put a vague Barnum Statement of playing a victim being offended to avoid the subject. Remember, his eternal soul is on the line and if he said ANYTHING in regard to saying, "No, its not true" or "No, we don't believe that" would have caused attention toward the subject of Xenu. Scientologists believe not making an agreement to talk about something will make less energy upon said subject. Weird.
Martin Bashir is one of the most respected journalists in this country, and take my hat off to him here. He handled this closet-human Tommy Davis with grace, elegance and poise. He never once stumbled, never once broke his gate, and simply asked, with journalistic professionalism, some straight forward questions. It's quite obvious Tommy met his match, and had to leave because he was so close to bursting.
"I don't like scientology I don't agree with it but let people believe what they want to believe and you shouldn't riducule people for believing differntly" - No, sometimes you SHOULD and this is one of those times.
@rocker951996 the point is we just wanna know what exactly he does beleive in because we have no frikin clue because he doesn't have the ability to tell us without showing how fucked up and flawed their "religion" really is
I don't like scientology I don't agree with it but let people believe what they want to believe and you shouldn't riducule people for believing differntly
@Rocker951996 who's ridiculing that jackass? He's doing it to himself by not answering a straight-forward question about his religious beliefs! Why should it even be offensive if that's what he genuinely believes in?
The fundamental differences among Scientology, Mormonism, Islam, as religions(to name but three), are money, membership, and the degree of pain, suffering and psychological damage inflicted as a direct consequence of losing one's mind.
The eradication of small pox did not eradicate disease. The eradication of religion will not eradicate evil, but it's a start.
It must be very hard to run a cult like Scientology these days. People are more informed and are able to thing more freely. Nice work ABC. Thanks for the reporter.
Everytime Tommy flaps his gums i get all sentimental for Heber Jentzsch....(someone slap me please).........Where is Heber anyway? Last i read he was doing RPF in the RPF and only got wheeled out once every decade or so for some $ciento' 'celebration'. Come back Heber, all is forgiven ;-)
@anonUK Because if he does say yes then nobody would join Scientology and if he says no all the senior Scientologists that know "the truth" would leave! Lose lose situation.
This guy was way to combative from the get-go to be an effective PR guy. There were much more tactful ways to answer those questions and respond to the situation, regardless how crazy some of their views seem.
All religions use the cloak it is "offensive to my religion" when pressed on the validity of their crazy superstitions. Christianity is just as crazy as Scientology or any of them.
@Jimmibear13 Offensive to my religion is such a lame excuse, like anyone cares about whats offensive or not, they use it because they are blindly following and therefore can't explain the reasons to why they follow, I do hope you'll run into someone who can explain their beliefs efficiently and not just spout out lies or crazy misinformation.
Cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power.
Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
If you look at religion objectively it is strange and rather "silly" and that goes for christianity, islam, hinduism etc. so that is not my problem. It is a matter of faith. What I don't understand is why scientologists find it so offensive when people and in this case the journalist ask them what they believe in. What scientology is really all about. I don't understand why it has to be so secret? I'm not religious myself but I respect religions - not scientology though. Sorry.
Why does religion have to be organized? There was spirituality before organized religion but no money changed hands, power and money have corrupted. Would the world not be a better place without? How many wars,how many free thinkers, scientist and others have died due to religion.
@Hatepasswords123 the thing i find hilarious is that people make fun of the Scientologists (with reason of course because its silly) but yet believe in talking snakes with legs, flaming bushes, towers of fire, cities destroyed by fire and brimstone, and resurrection of the dead without batting an eyelash.
Oh and the Red Sea "parts" all the time because its so damn shallow and its full of sandbars. They don't realize that.
@bhabeney and what precisely do you think the impression of Christians was back in Rome of 1 CE? Or the Brahmic worshippers to the Vedic in India? Or the practioners of that bucolic faith known as Mormonism to the other "good" christians.
Every cult has the chance to become a "religion" if enough of the world accepts it. All religions are cults by their very definition (look up its actual meaning, not just as a reference to "whack jobs"). The only difference is how many members....
Nobody charges you a penny for telling you about Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, the Hindu gods, the Gurus of Sikhism, or for that matter the Buddha. Why should people pay through the nose and risk modern slavery to be told fourth-rate science fiction and 1950's cod psychology?
I don't think you support Scientology, I think you see all religions as cults. There are a lot of stupid or obnoxious cu(l)ts in religion- hypocritical televangelists, paedophile-hiding priests and bishops, inflammatory imams, etc.- but religions are not all evil or encourage evil in their followers. What is amazing about Scientology is how transparent the massive scam is and how there can be no good in it for anyone.
@anonUK so supporting by dogma the mutilation of infant boys penises, stoning to death of adulterers, murdering whole towns except for their virginal women (only to make them slaves), keeping slabes in general, demanding a tax be placed upon unbelievers, those who work on the sabbath (even unbelievers) should be put to death, et al.
These are all good things? Because in all the Abrahamic religions this are fundamental directives all given by the mandate of God, assuming you follow it.
These people do the exact same things that all religious people do.
- We are ignorant, intolerant towards everyone having a religion. These religious fanatics and protectors of slavery of the human mind needs to be eradicated from the surface of the earth.
What an ass he reminds me of that kid at toys r'us who doesn't get that toy he wants! Little shit I bet he still has sex with space thong on, i bet rubs himself down with peanut butter or jerks off to his guns & amo magazine and says LRH maid me do it! What A Complete tool, if there wasnt any consequences this cult aka religion would be the first I would go gunning for all their members, fuckem all, they can keep Tom but Katie we want back with those cute dimples of hers mmm Deeeeliciois ;-)
He walked away because scientology teaches that he must not talk about or try to learn about the OT levels, which Xenu and the volcanos are a part. Scientology tells him that if he does this, he will not be allowed to continue in the church or he will be placed in the forced labor unit. He says he is "offended" because is afraid. Afraid the the reporter is going to make him say something that his scientology buddies will nail him for. Sure, he was a pretentious d-bag, but he was in fear
Mr Davis is such a mong, he knows he can't say yes or no to that question haha! His response in up and leaving after being asked that question is far better than if he'd said yes.
Your stats are waaaaaaay down Tommy. Here's some friendly advice, get your act together before your lil-thug boss Mr. Miscavige kicks the shit outta you.
Ask an evolutionist about evolution, a geologist about how the earth got here, an astronomer about the expansion of the universe or for that matter a historian about history and they'll go on for days. Ask a scientologist what they believe and they're all offended... Astronomers know their beliefs aren't bonkers.
Perhaps he should be asked in a different way what are the central tenets of scientology, and if this particular matter is excluded, whether this means that he does not consider it to be part of scientology, and if so, whether it troubles him that he is therefore at odds with the religion's founder.
You're the spokesperson of Scientology. You're suppose to talk about what you believe. What you believe is a sack of horseshit but at least stand by your sack of horseshit.
@Xcaliber241 yeah, pretty much summed up his position when he refused to answer the questions. He cant tell the difference between offensive and non-offensive query. They're all the same to him and he is bs.
Xenu banished prisoners from another world to a volcano on earth and their spirits attach to people causing problems. Sounds like a rip off of Judaism and Christianity except they claim that their banisher is evil and all the spirits that got banished here are not good or evil.
In Judaism/Christianity satan lead a rebellion against God so God casted them down and banished them to earth and now they deceive/possess people to rebel at God.
Scientology - Demons saying God is evil. demonic cult.
What an inappropriate response, and what a confirmation that Scientology is hogwash. If he doesn't believe it, he should have have been glad to have the opportunity to inform people that this is not part of Scientology.
What a sniveling touch hole!! He had his little hissy and walked out in a rage, what an assclown. At least Davis can fake sanity, Miscavige is poobah, mucho loco, crackers, mad as a march hare, etc. A "religion" which is secret to outsiders, charges fees for advancement, works its believers ragged for $50 a week, imprisons people, and has a facility nicknamed "Gold" which is almost as secure as Ft. Knox. I think I would call such an organization a cult. TAKE AWAY THE CULT"S TAX EXEMPTION!!!!
I find it interesting that he just didn't say, straight up, no. At least when you ask a Christian if they believed in a talking snake they can answer yes or no. He's was doing an interview about his religion. If the xenu story was just people mocking scientology, then stating that that was complete bullshit and clarifying their beliefs would be the logical thing to do there. But, like all religions, you got to sucker them in before you reveal the insanity.
This is stupidity on an incredible level. Buddy journalists these days don't have a problem offending Muslims (and they might issue a fatwa and blow you up) so why the fuck do you think anyone would care about offending a bunch of bat shit crazy, money laundering fuck holes like you?
@yotchsy Oh yeah well how I've heard that the church spys on people who go against the church and exposes all there secrets. And they block comenting on youtube because there afraid all there secrets will be exposed. Also how do you think the church gets money not by donation but by sewing good people who have done nothing to anybody.
@yotchsy L Ron Hubbard was the one who said to frame people he called it fair game. He also admited that making a false religon would make money it was recorded on tape. And he just took a bunge of other religous views and mixed them together. Also don't give me the excuse of an e meter it's just a crude lie detector.
but to be honest there's nothing here from any other religions to be funny mormons are closest to religous than sci. I was under Meter for more than 200 questions just because once I say that I would like to join the FBI
and 200 more because I share a secret with another EPF. dude me getting out there was like a mission impossible kind thing.took me weeks to plan that out .
@yotchsy How do you feel about XENU???And dont get mad and try to dance around the Question or get up and walk out YOU WACKA DOO!!!!!!Bwahahahaha-loser
LRH was a sci-fiction writer , I will say I pretty good one
LRH wrote that we're here because we can get hurt as human but no as Thetan or spirit
we were put in our bodies and throughout sci we can get to be freed
now, God offers the same but in different words .
i DO NOT BELIEVE IN XENU OR GOD . there's too many religions and believes that I am confused as anybody could be. that's a reason i am a ex-scientology
@yotchsy Hello..I respect your response..Sorry for the anger..lol...I just been doing a lot of researching and watching the CULT...And I was in a BAD MOOD about XENU believers...lmfao...Peace
I'm off to find an orangutang colony in Indonesia to live with. They don't have whacky religions; they eat, drink, play, sleep and scratch their butts - and that's more in line with me.
@ScrewFoxNews, please, please, please let me know if you find that colony. Sounds great. This guy's existence is a royal stir fry to every neuron of every species, everywhere.
At least Davis has a measurable IQ. Miscavige, per the 1992 Ted Koppel interview, is an automaton who is unable to deviate from a memorized script. Miscavige has had no formal education beyond the age of 12, is an inarticulate liar, narcissistic bully, and an all around evil pixie.
Is this a joke? Your offended by questions about your religion? So basically because you have no explanation for the little people in volcanos, your going to ignore the question and act as though religion background is something that only it's followers should know or something holy crap maybe I should just be satanist because he's deeper than the volcanos so he must be better to follow
Wow! Okay there so suppose to be so good right? And stay away from negativity? So why cant he just be mature instead of walking out?....this IS well kinda funny:P HA
This is fuckin hilarious! Obviously the guy doesn't want to talk about it because he knows it's a ridiculous question! But he should have answered nonetheless.
$cientology is just plain ridiculous. The question was very relevant because it pertains to $cientology's OT III doctrine, and is the basis of $cientology's entire "religion." $cientology's Xenu dogma has been exposed by ex-members, court documents, reported on by multiple different media outlets, and leaked out onto the Internet. It's not a secret anymore.
@sk8mike It's not what others write, say, or document. It's what you as an individual has done personally. You are assuming the information is correct based on sources that you believe are valid and can never be wrong. When in fact everything has the possibility of being true or untrue unless experienced by the individual. And even then, some self experiences are not even true. You have to test it. You are blind. Your mind and ideas are shielded and cannot have anything contrary. Unopenminded.
You're just like Tommy Davis except instead of storming out of the room you avoid the subject by talk in vague circles. BTW, what did Hubbard say?
"When somebody enrols, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe—NEVER PERMIT AN 'OPEN-MINDED' APPROACH. If they’re going to quit let them quit fast. If they enrolled, they’re aboard, and if they’re aboard, they’re here on the same terms as the rest of us..." - L Ron Hubbard, Keep Scientology Working
That's a convenient argument since you can't refute the evidence. I've never claimed that my sources can't be wrong. It's just that you and every other Scientologist have always fail to convince me otherwise. You dodge the issue every time. It has nothing to do with me being open minded or not. There are multiple sources that corroborate this story. The evidence is impossible to ignore. You're just too indoctrinated to accept it.
@sk8mike What evidence couldn't I refute? I believe I didn't make a claim on anything, except for that real individual experiences are closest to truth. And anyone who disagrees with that is simply lost. Have I told you anything about Scientology? Have I made ONE fucking claim about it? NO. BecauseTYPING INFORMATION is useless. It is only useful for those who ARE unopenminded. And you calling me indoctrinated is ignorance. Everyone is indoctrinated. You are indoctrinated to be Anti Scientology.
@blablabla1196 That's the point I was making, you're avoiding the subject. You'd rather get distracted with arguments about the philosophy of knowledge, than get into an honest discussion about Scientology's so called beliefs.
On that note, there's no logic in discounting objective evidence. If I've read evidence from 20 different engineers that all agree that a certain foot bridge won't support my weight, and if I try to walk across I'll die. I'm not going to make myself a guinea pig.
@sk8mike I'm avoiding the subject because there is no reason to get into a discussion about it. I wouldn't be able to convince you of anything with regards to Scientology via internet. When I read sources of anything on the internet, I accept the possibility of them being true from both angles. And thats where your example fails. There aren't two angles.What if you read evidence of 20 different engineers that all agree the bridge CAN support your weight? And it depends what the bridges use is.
@blablabla1196 It's very telling that you won't have an honest discussion with me. If you can't honestly discuss $cientology over the Internet, I have no reason to believe that you'd be any different in person. Actually there are two angles. You won't discuss Scientology because you know you it can't compete with other ideas. The Internet is the market place of ideas. If you can't sell your product over the Internet, you have a real problem.
Your whole "I can't tell you what the mystery product is until you buy it from me" sales pitch doesn't fly. It's dishonest. You're withholding information because you don't trust people enough to let them make their own educated decisions. You want to get people on your turf, where you have more control over the situation, and you can use your training in high presser sales tactics to manipulate them. That's how it works. (I mean you, as in $cientology.)
@sk8mike Let me put it this way. With regards to most of the information on the Internet about Scientology, I would agree with you that it is corrupt, cultish, etc. With regards to actual information you recieve from the church and the outcomes of testing the informtion, I don't agree with you that it would be corrupt, cultish, etc. Do you understand you're completely disagreeing with the Scientific Method? That is what I mean about individual experience.
You throw all your logic out when someone threatens your Anti Scientologist propaganda. I can have an honest discussion over the Internet about Scientology. I don't mind. But I can't convince you of anything. I on the other hand would most likely agree with some issues.
@sk8mike (Continued) And even if I agree, I'm a Scientologist right? Because the fact that I'm defending it makes it true that I am? Or the fact that I don't defend it makes it true that I would be a part of this supposed cult of Scientology? You can't honestly believe that there is a possibility that someone who isn't a Scientologist, could defend it?
@blablabla1196 You speak like a person in a cult. No one who practices a religion is afraid to state what that religion is. People will even die for the right to state it. You, on the other hand, would rather do anything BUT that and appear to have been trained by a cult to act offended and assign false motives to the questioner, be coy and him & haw - classic cult garbage. If you are not in a cult, you ape their behavior quite well. I hope I am wrong.
He was using confrontation techniques and avoidance. He knew darned well that Xenu was a part of his doctrine.
truvelocity 11 hours ago
They are all clowns
BOOSHAGGY 3 days ago
How can it be "offensive" to discuss details & structure of your religion? He stomps off like a petulant child because someone dared to ask a question, in good faith, to get a better understanding of Scientology...to be so defensive, suggests he doesn't believe in what he apparently holds as truth/has no faith in what he must believe for Scientology sake... Odd someone so well placed in an organizational hierarchy can't passionately explain his own fundamental beliefs-no matter what they are.
moeguy222 3 days ago
@moeguy222 Because he would be against his own doctrine to lie that there is no Xenu, so he had to put a vague Barnum Statement of playing a victim being offended to avoid the subject. Remember, his eternal soul is on the line and if he said ANYTHING in regard to saying, "No, its not true" or "No, we don't believe that" would have caused attention toward the subject of Xenu. Scientologists believe not making an agreement to talk about something will make less energy upon said subject. Weird.
truvelocity 11 hours ago
Martin Bashir is one of the most respected journalists in this country, and take my hat off to him here. He handled this closet-human Tommy Davis with grace, elegance and poise. He never once stumbled, never once broke his gate, and simply asked, with journalistic professionalism, some straight forward questions. It's quite obvious Tommy met his match, and had to leave because he was so close to bursting.
lepunkdigitale1 4 days ago
Does anyone remember that movie "Little Monsters"? Tommy reminds me of that robot boy that rules the monsters in that movie.
noisyrag2 5 days ago
So basically: "It is against my religion to discuss what the creator of my religion said was the beginning of my religion"
MitchellWiggs 5 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"I don't like scientology I don't agree with it but let people believe what they want to believe and you shouldn't riducule people for believing differntly" - No, sometimes you SHOULD and this is one of those times.
jonship 5 days ago
WHAT A PATHETIC, PATHETIC, PATHETIC, PATHETIC, PATHETIC, SHITFUL, CRAPPY, EVIL LITTLE CULT. LETS WIPE THE FUCKING THING OUT *NOW*.
jonship 5 days ago
"The burden of my own Journalistic responsibilities" - beautifully put.
jonship 5 days ago
this again demonstrates how crazy and stupid scientologists are
MrGrompo 1 week ago
@rocker951996 the point is we just wanna know what exactly he does beleive in because we have no frikin clue because he doesn't have the ability to tell us without showing how fucked up and flawed their "religion" really is
DrokkBr000 1 week ago
Seriously.......? Hahahahahahahahaha wat a fuckin twat
DrokkBr000 1 week ago
ha ha what a nob jockey lol
smegfist 1 week ago
Thats just pathetic!
ashtonkyle211 1 week ago
hahahahahaha the big baby lie-entologist couldnt take the heat! small cock!
MrToiletface 2 weeks ago
I don't like scientology I don't agree with it but let people believe what they want to believe and you shouldn't riducule people for believing differntly
Rocker951996 2 weeks ago
@Rocker951996 who's ridiculing that jackass? He's doing it to himself by not answering a straight-forward question about his religious beliefs! Why should it even be offensive if that's what he genuinely believes in?
countingmoons 1 week ago 6
Tommy Davis' behavior speaks for itself.
The fundamental differences among Scientology, Mormonism, Islam, as religions(to name but three), are money, membership, and the degree of pain, suffering and psychological damage inflicted as a direct consequence of losing one's mind.
The eradication of small pox did not eradicate disease. The eradication of religion will not eradicate evil, but it's a start.
lduych 2 weeks ago 2
"You're asking me questions that are fundamentally offensive to me"
Translation:
"You're asking me questions that I am too embarrassed too answer honestly"
redshark618 2 weeks ago 8
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Even though I think scientology is BS, I have to say that the interviewer was a total dick.
Ellie5621 2 weeks ago
It must be very hard to run a cult like Scientology these days. People are more informed and are able to thing more freely. Nice work ABC. Thanks for the reporter.
utubekula 2 weeks ago 5
Everytime Tommy flaps his gums i get all sentimental for Heber Jentzsch....(someone slap me please).........Where is Heber anyway? Last i read he was doing RPF in the RPF and only got wheeled out once every decade or so for some $ciento' 'celebration'. Come back Heber, all is forgiven ;-)
doodledots 3 weeks ago
All praise Xenu! He rules Teegeeack from a hollow volcano!
The question is, does he have a white cat?
Even Fred Phelps would tell you what he believed in if you asked him- why doesn't this man?
anonUK 3 weeks ago
@anonUK Because if he does say yes then nobody would join Scientology and if he says no all the senior Scientologists that know "the truth" would leave! Lose lose situation.
TomMackio 3 weeks ago 2
This guy was way to combative from the get-go to be an effective PR guy. There were much more tactful ways to answer those questions and respond to the situation, regardless how crazy some of their views seem.
MrPentaxfan 3 weeks ago
He played the old, "That's against my rights" card
bumfree 3 weeks ago
Alistair Crowley = Aliens
Seraphic42Creed 3 weeks ago
The guys a tit.
RobGordon35 3 weeks ago
All religions use the cloak it is "offensive to my religion" when pressed on the validity of their crazy superstitions. Christianity is just as crazy as Scientology or any of them.
Jimmibear13 3 weeks ago
@Jimmibear13 Offensive to my religion is such a lame excuse, like anyone cares about whats offensive or not, they use it because they are blindly following and therefore can't explain the reasons to why they follow, I do hope you'll run into someone who can explain their beliefs efficiently and not just spout out lies or crazy misinformation.
Seraphic42Creed 3 weeks ago 3
@Jimmibear13 not true. stop pigeonholing dude.
tonkrogerio 3 weeks ago
Their on religious writings by their founder are offensive to them? LOL LOL LOL
RyuSei00555 3 weeks ago
The Idiot walked out..... Good riddance !,
FirebrandNIRE 3 weeks ago
Cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power.
Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT
mrdubcrazy 3 weeks ago
Comment removed
mrdubcrazy 3 weeks ago
Comment removed
mrdubcrazy 3 weeks ago
If you look at religion objectively it is strange and rather "silly" and that goes for christianity, islam, hinduism etc. so that is not my problem. It is a matter of faith. What I don't understand is why scientologists find it so offensive when people and in this case the journalist ask them what they believe in. What scientology is really all about. I don't understand why it has to be so secret? I'm not religious myself but I respect religions - not scientology though. Sorry.
FrkTofteskov 4 weeks ago
Answer the questions!!!!!! They can't even answer any questions.They never can.
sweet161402 4 weeks ago
Tom Cruise needs to hear this.
trackdriver1003 1 month ago
Better yet that he has no knowledge of it .
NajetKerris 1 month ago
This is so dumb , all this guy needs to do is say he doesn't believe that or that the church doesn't , unless ..
NajetKerris 1 month ago
Why does religion have to be organized? There was spirituality before organized religion but no money changed hands, power and money have corrupted. Would the world not be a better place without? How many wars,how many free thinkers, scientist and others have died due to religion.
Hatepasswords123 1 month ago
Haha not really any more out there then parting the sea's or using a magic stone to decipher text
Hatepasswords123 1 month ago
@Hatepasswords123 the thing i find hilarious is that people make fun of the Scientologists (with reason of course because its silly) but yet believe in talking snakes with legs, flaming bushes, towers of fire, cities destroyed by fire and brimstone, and resurrection of the dead without batting an eyelash.
Oh and the Red Sea "parts" all the time because its so damn shallow and its full of sandbars. They don't realize that.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer What you FAIL to realize is that $cientology is NOT a religion....It is a Cult.
bhabeney 1 month ago
@bhabeney and what precisely do you think the impression of Christians was back in Rome of 1 CE? Or the Brahmic worshippers to the Vedic in India? Or the practioners of that bucolic faith known as Mormonism to the other "good" christians.
Every cult has the chance to become a "religion" if enough of the world accepts it. All religions are cults by their very definition (look up its actual meaning, not just as a reference to "whack jobs"). The only difference is how many members....
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer
Nobody charges you a penny for telling you about Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, the Hindu gods, the Gurus of Sikhism, or for that matter the Buddha. Why should people pay through the nose and risk modern slavery to be told fourth-rate science fiction and 1950's cod psychology?
anonUK 3 weeks ago
@anonUK did you have the misapprehension I supported these Scientology whack jobs?
Hubbard should have stuck to fiction like in Battlefield Earth being half adventure half satire of society.
OkamsRazer 3 weeks ago
@OkamsRazer
I don't think you support Scientology, I think you see all religions as cults. There are a lot of stupid or obnoxious cu(l)ts in religion- hypocritical televangelists, paedophile-hiding priests and bishops, inflammatory imams, etc.- but religions are not all evil or encourage evil in their followers. What is amazing about Scientology is how transparent the massive scam is and how there can be no good in it for anyone.
anonUK 3 weeks ago
@anonUK so supporting by dogma the mutilation of infant boys penises, stoning to death of adulterers, murdering whole towns except for their virginal women (only to make them slaves), keeping slabes in general, demanding a tax be placed upon unbelievers, those who work on the sabbath (even unbelievers) should be put to death, et al.
These are all good things? Because in all the Abrahamic religions this are fundamental directives all given by the mandate of God, assuming you follow it.
OkamsRazer 3 weeks ago
This dude seems like he's going to cry. Xenu should eat him,
7ay 1 month ago
@7ay Oh Temptatious one! Do not incur the Wrath of Xenu himself.
allaboutdmagic 1 month ago
These people do the exact same things that all religious people do.
- We are ignorant, intolerant towards everyone having a religion. These religious fanatics and protectors of slavery of the human mind needs to be eradicated from the surface of the earth.
stacker911 1 month ago
"I am not willing to discuss the disgusting perversions that Scientology beliefs..."
Wait...so it IS true.
K, hail Xenu.
summerskyfilms 1 month ago
This $hit for brains Scumbag should be in jail
bhabeney 1 month ago
So it's a violation of his beliefs to talk about anything negative about Scientology? Right seems like a pretty convient rule to me.
ab9350 1 month ago
hahahahahaha this guy is the scientologist spokesperson? wow why would you believe this crap anyway?
2010madrigal 1 month ago
What an ass he reminds me of that kid at toys r'us who doesn't get that toy he wants! Little shit I bet he still has sex with space thong on, i bet rubs himself down with peanut butter or jerks off to his guns & amo magazine and says LRH maid me do it! What A Complete tool, if there wasnt any consequences this cult aka religion would be the first I would go gunning for all their members, fuckem all, they can keep Tom but Katie we want back with those cute dimples of hers mmm Deeeeliciois ;-)
myownruin187 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
He walked away because scientology teaches that he must not talk about or try to learn about the OT levels, which Xenu and the volcanos are a part. Scientology tells him that if he does this, he will not be allowed to continue in the church or he will be placed in the forced labor unit. He says he is "offended" because is afraid. Afraid the the reporter is going to make him say something that his scientology buddies will nail him for. Sure, he was a pretentious d-bag, but he was in fear
Mahorndawg 1 month ago
Comment removed
Mahorndawg 1 month ago
He could have just laughed it off and said it was false. Instead, he has to walk out like a pissy grade school student.
MephistophelesMyLord 1 month ago
This certainly gives me an idea of what to ask the next person who offers me a free Dianetics questionaire.
hworth 1 month ago
Jesus' what a shithead. it seems the dishonesty of scientology is equal to all other faiths.
BBMix 1 month ago
Scientologists can be such cunts.
uriituw 1 month ago
If scientologist and a muslim would fight who would be more offended?
Darvinisti 1 month ago
OMG, his voice seriously wavered like he was going to cry.
electrogeek77 1 month ago
Tommy Davis is sexy
ytrogergt 1 month ago
you are so fundamentaly full of shit!
kafgeo12345 1 month ago
Awww. Did him get his little feelings hurt? That bad man asked you about your "religion."
There there tommy, it's okay. Let's go home and I draw you a hot bath.
HellRehab 1 month ago
offensive? what a cunt
badgerboyUK 1 month ago
agression, denial, intimidation....maybe $cientology really is a religion!
BlueBellyfluff 1 month ago 2
Tommy Davis is offended by his own "religion." That's how bad Scientology is. Says it all right there.
MrDunedon 1 month ago 38
Mr Davis is such a mong, he knows he can't say yes or no to that question haha! His response in up and leaving after being asked that question is far better than if he'd said yes.
fullonforce 1 month ago
And with that, The Grand Wizard of the Bullshit ups and leaves.
HitMeQuick 1 month ago
How is it offensive? It's a valid question - just as you'd any other theist how they think the world came into existence...
CCRSongs 1 month ago
Your stats are waaaaaaay down Tommy. Here's some friendly advice, get your act together before your lil-thug boss Mr. Miscavige kicks the shit outta you.
sdsuman1 1 month ago
Loser!
pcorf 2 months ago
Ask an evolutionist about evolution, a geologist about how the earth got here, an astronomer about the expansion of the universe or for that matter a historian about history and they'll go on for days. Ask a scientologist what they believe and they're all offended... Astronomers know their beliefs aren't bonkers.
diabolusdc 2 months ago
Perhaps he should be asked in a different way what are the central tenets of scientology, and if this particular matter is excluded, whether this means that he does not consider it to be part of scientology, and if so, whether it troubles him that he is therefore at odds with the religion's founder.
abbiamoquesto 2 months ago
I love it. A scientology coward refuses to talk about his craziness with a Human. Theres a surprise.
699backstab 2 months ago 4
You're the spokesperson of Scientology. You're suppose to talk about what you believe. What you believe is a sack of horseshit but at least stand by your sack of horseshit.
Xcaliber241 2 months ago 55
This has been flagged as spam show
@Xcaliber241 yeah, pretty much summed up his position when he refused to answer the questions. He cant tell the difference between offensive and non-offensive query. They're all the same to him and he is bs.
johnalanhale5 2 months ago
tbh i dont see the difference in terms of stupidity and arrogance between Scientology and other religions
NewAtheim 2 months ago
Xenu banished prisoners from another world to a volcano on earth and their spirits attach to people causing problems. Sounds like a rip off of Judaism and Christianity except they claim that their banisher is evil and all the spirits that got banished here are not good or evil.
In Judaism/Christianity satan lead a rebellion against God so God casted them down and banished them to earth and now they deceive/possess people to rebel at God.
Scientology - Demons saying God is evil. demonic cult.
gilbert4321 2 months ago
For a Scientologist, only what is true for you, is the truth. So he can't say that Xenu didn't exist, if someone else think ha had exist. That's all.
corfe29 2 months ago
Scientology is FUN
Reading is FUN
MyDanceMoovez10 2 months ago
why can't he just deny it???
why can't he just say "No, of course we don't believe that. That's crazy."???
Ask any other religious person what they believe and, no matter how crazy it sounds, they will tell you.
hardinmichael1981 2 months ago
@hardinmichael1981
because it's better to keep you guessing. publicity.
"that house there is haunted"
Mohrkai 2 months ago
@Mohrkai or.... maybe he just doesn't want to outright LIE about it. So he claims to be offended and storms out like a little child.
We (Adults w/ Brains) should no longer CARE if anyone gets offended by challenges to their religious beliefs.
hardinmichael1981 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hardinmichael1981
you keep telling yourself that.
Mohrkai 2 months ago
Lol. Stop denying it xD Violation of religious beliefs.. l0l
Rustaflix 2 months ago
All he had to say was "Yes" or "No" Just answer the question. He is one of the reasons Scientology has a bad name
sdeal709 2 months ago 3
What a pussy.
Jimk0756 2 months ago
This interviewer is excellent. Does anyone know who he is?
GypsyLeah 2 months ago 4
@GypsyLeah
Martin Bashir
billburns2 2 months ago
@billburns2 Thank you.
GypsyLeah 2 months ago
fuck scientology i will wipe my ass with that church!!
lizardstyle101 2 months ago
Good one Tommy Boy. I`d have asked the reporter if he has impaired hearing.
wolmando 2 months ago
lol. he got trolled by the journalist, not 1 but 3 times.
h0b0ch1c 2 months ago
Comment removed
h0b0ch1c 2 months ago
What an inappropriate response, and what a confirmation that Scientology is hogwash. If he doesn't believe it, he should have have been glad to have the opportunity to inform people that this is not part of Scientology.
fortheloveofwisdom 2 months ago
Interviewer used Xenu.
Wild Tommy fainted.
SCIENTOLOGY FAIL!
DrStrangebomb1993 2 months ago 23
Comment removed
covermusicfan 2 months ago
Awwwwwww, he mad.
TheBlueManChoo 2 months ago
he must have found it seriously hard not to laugh when asking those questions, surely??
CHRISTIAN6182 2 months ago
Is he offended because they DO believe in Xenu or offended because they DON'T?
MrSelidor7 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MrSelidor7 How dare you be so offensive!?
PascalsWager5 2 months ago
if u look closely u can see huberts head up tommy ass
aussiedave24nsw 2 months ago
What a sniveling touch hole!! He had his little hissy and walked out in a rage, what an assclown. At least Davis can fake sanity, Miscavige is poobah, mucho loco, crackers, mad as a march hare, etc. A "religion" which is secret to outsiders, charges fees for advancement, works its believers ragged for $50 a week, imprisons people, and has a facility nicknamed "Gold" which is almost as secure as Ft. Knox. I think I would call such an organization a cult. TAKE AWAY THE CULT"S TAX EXEMPTION!!!!
sauroid1 2 months ago 4
I find it interesting that he just didn't say, straight up, no. At least when you ask a Christian if they believed in a talking snake they can answer yes or no. He's was doing an interview about his religion. If the xenu story was just people mocking scientology, then stating that that was complete bullshit and clarifying their beliefs would be the logical thing to do there. But, like all religions, you got to sucker them in before you reveal the insanity.
james235252 2 months ago
LOOOL! I don't know how the interviewer is keeping it all in xD The last bit is hilarious!
Rustaflix 3 months ago
HAHAHAHA! Gotta love those born without a brain
jmsbrgg 3 months ago
hahaha so great XD
SlipAllCityToy 3 months ago
@irememberwhat scientology is classified as a religion though and every other religion is crazy bullshit there isnt much of a difference
pur3k0 3 months ago
This is stupidity on an incredible level. Buddy journalists these days don't have a problem offending Muslims (and they might issue a fatwa and blow you up) so why the fuck do you think anyone would care about offending a bunch of bat shit crazy, money laundering fuck holes like you?
punkmanjon 3 months ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! emperor Zorg came from your anus Oops uranus!!
dubyamoney 3 months ago
What a strange little man...
Wkterr 3 months ago
this video needs more likes!!!
darkartconceptz 3 months ago
A clear cut twat. Tommy - you are see through. This is a rotten load of rubbish you are purveying for MONEY - get lost you PRAT
wickesm 3 months ago
scientology never has a clear answer. Because there an evil religon
MrAgmaster 3 months ago
@MrAgmaster
I used to be a member and I left but not for the reason you are mentioning
yotchsy 3 months ago
@yotchsy Oh yeah well how I've heard that the church spys on people who go against the church and exposes all there secrets. And they block comenting on youtube because there afraid all there secrets will be exposed. Also how do you think the church gets money not by donation but by sewing good people who have done nothing to anybody.
MrAgmaster 3 months ago
@MrAgmaster
I understand what you are saying,I am on you side ok
something to make clear: they are not a church they are an organization
the only reason is so called a church is to pass by taxes
remember even LRH said:
You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion
I could tell you a mile in secrets but I just cant spill thing like that without a prove..
someday they wil fall.
yotchsy 3 months ago
@MrAgmaster
Scientology could be a good organization if things were going the right way as LRH started it
but when money became the point of interest then they forget about the main purpose of the funder
I found the base of the " religion" helpful but no the way is instructed nowdays
per say: hittler could have been a good leader if he wasnt a evil person
usually people with too much power became evil. such a sci-
yotchsy 3 months ago
@yotchsy L Ron Hubbard was the one who said to frame people he called it fair game. He also admited that making a false religon would make money it was recorded on tape. And he just took a bunge of other religous views and mixed them together. Also don't give me the excuse of an e meter it's just a crude lie detector.
MrAgmaster 3 months ago
@MrAgmaster
@MrAgmaster
I understand your point of view
but to be honest there's nothing here from any other religions to be funny mormons are closest to religous than sci. I was under Meter for more than 200 questions just because once I say that I would like to join the FBI
and 200 more because I share a secret with another EPF. dude me getting out there was like a mission impossible kind thing.took me weeks to plan that out .
yotchsy 3 months ago
@yotchsy You should join the anonymous movment, it's not just about scientology.We want to end coruption.
MrAgmaster 3 months ago
@MrAgmaster
there's a story about this guy that wanted to bring sci to court and they made all this things up
for the guy to lose the case
even rape was on his charges ... can you believe that
i think he was the writer of A PIECE OF BLUE SKY.
yotchsy 3 months ago
@yotchsy How do you feel about XENU???And dont get mad and try to dance around the Question or get up and walk out YOU WACKA DOO!!!!!!Bwahahahaha-loser
mattdaddyful 3 months ago
@mattdaddyful
dude, I believe in alien life to be honest
LRH was a sci-fiction writer , I will say I pretty good one
LRH wrote that we're here because we can get hurt as human but no as Thetan or spirit
we were put in our bodies and throughout sci we can get to be freed
now, God offers the same but in different words .
i DO NOT BELIEVE IN XENU OR GOD . there's too many religions and believes that I am confused as anybody could be. that's a reason i am a ex-scientology
yotchsy 3 months ago
@yotchsy Hello..I respect your response..Sorry for the anger..lol...I just been doing a lot of researching and watching the CULT...And I was in a BAD MOOD about XENU believers...lmfao...Peace
mattdaddyful 2 months ago
So scientology says: "Do unto others and then run off"
wasimsworld 3 months ago
He didn't walk out on the interview, he just urgently had to powder his ass.
Cocytus999 3 months ago 28
@Cocytus999 .... with XENU powder!!!
NuckingFuts06 1 month ago
What a prat.
marmite400 3 months ago
pathetic... scientologists are deserving of nothing but ridicule and contempt
MrAdams225 3 months ago 3
like father like son, assholes they have a mouth like their ass.
gamerp4 3 months ago
Anyone else tired of humans?
I'm off to find an orangutang colony in Indonesia to live with. They don't have whacky religions; they eat, drink, play, sleep and scratch their butts - and that's more in line with me.
Peace.
ScrewFoxNews 3 months ago
@ScrewFoxNews, please, please, please let me know if you find that colony. Sounds great. This guy's existence is a royal stir fry to every neuron of every species, everywhere.
07lechatnoir 3 months ago
Well atleast i wont be alone in thise FEMA camps! Lol hope to into this cock smoker one day!
myownruin187 3 months ago
At least Davis has a measurable IQ. Miscavige, per the 1992 Ted Koppel interview, is an automaton who is unable to deviate from a memorized script. Miscavige has had no formal education beyond the age of 12, is an inarticulate liar, narcissistic bully, and an all around evil pixie.
sauroid1 3 months ago
If i say i have been to the moon for a visit to Mcdonalds ,iwould also have to explain what i was talking about
tontobones 3 months ago
Is this a joke? Your offended by questions about your religion? So basically because you have no explanation for the little people in volcanos, your going to ignore the question and act as though religion background is something that only it's followers should know or something holy crap maybe I should just be satanist because he's deeper than the volcanos so he must be better to follow
chaos11012 3 months ago
What a little bitch
lloydduggan92 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I AM Xenu! SUCK MY EXTRATERRESTRIAL FORESKIN
gravelgravel2 3 months ago
you are asking something he knows is nonsense so he cant answer
tontobones 3 months ago
@tontobones So he can't answer because he knows his 'religion' is nonsense.
Great explanation.
duckmanham 3 months ago
What an asshole
MrToadums 3 months ago 3
Scientology is a house of cards and the Xenu question is what triggers the collapse.
mobspeak 3 months ago 28
@mobspeak Scientology is rubbish!
ChristiansofAsia 2 months ago
@ChristiansofAsia Yes it is, but that's just putting it in layman's terms.
mobspeak 2 months ago
I think he madbro.
ParaKnox90 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
16 days left to
Sign the US Government Petition to investigate the Church of Scientology and it's abuses. The Government must give a response.
It’s all about a volume of voices, don’t be afraid anymore it is your right to get answers. Anyone can sign join those voices.
If problems registering go here 1st:
wwws dot whitehouse dot gov/user/register
+back to the Petition:
wh dot gov/4Os
If the Sign button is grey and not green simply log out and log back in.
mrgreebly 3 months ago
fucking waa.
twitcheeee 3 months ago
And then we have idiots like this.
Magikpotion 3 months ago
Tommy is clearly a happy man. He just emanates joy and happiness. lmao
brahmamurti 3 months ago
Wow! Okay there so suppose to be so good right? And stay away from negativity? So why cant he just be mature instead of walking out?....this IS well kinda funny:P HA
MeVacio 3 months ago
Tommy Davis: Talking about Xenu is a threat to my checking account!
seanmatthewrosen 3 months ago 2
This is fuckin hilarious! Obviously the guy doesn't want to talk about it because he knows it's a ridiculous question! But he should have answered nonetheless.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@blablabla1196
$cientology is just plain ridiculous. The question was very relevant because it pertains to $cientology's OT III doctrine, and is the basis of $cientology's entire "religion." $cientology's Xenu dogma has been exposed by ex-members, court documents, reported on by multiple different media outlets, and leaked out onto the Internet. It's not a secret anymore.
sk8mike 3 months ago
@sk8mike It's not what others write, say, or document. It's what you as an individual has done personally. You are assuming the information is correct based on sources that you believe are valid and can never be wrong. When in fact everything has the possibility of being true or untrue unless experienced by the individual. And even then, some self experiences are not even true. You have to test it. You are blind. Your mind and ideas are shielded and cannot have anything contrary. Unopenminded.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@blablabla1196
You're just like Tommy Davis except instead of storming out of the room you avoid the subject by talk in vague circles. BTW, what did Hubbard say?
"When somebody enrols, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe—NEVER PERMIT AN 'OPEN-MINDED' APPROACH. If they’re going to quit let them quit fast. If they enrolled, they’re aboard, and if they’re aboard, they’re here on the same terms as the rest of us..." - L Ron Hubbard, Keep Scientology Working
sk8mike 3 months ago
@blablabla1196 (CONT) You're just trolling, right?
That's a convenient argument since you can't refute the evidence. I've never claimed that my sources can't be wrong. It's just that you and every other Scientologist have always fail to convince me otherwise. You dodge the issue every time. It has nothing to do with me being open minded or not. There are multiple sources that corroborate this story. The evidence is impossible to ignore. You're just too indoctrinated to accept it.
sk8mike 3 months ago
@sk8mike What evidence couldn't I refute? I believe I didn't make a claim on anything, except for that real individual experiences are closest to truth. And anyone who disagrees with that is simply lost. Have I told you anything about Scientology? Have I made ONE fucking claim about it? NO. BecauseTYPING INFORMATION is useless. It is only useful for those who ARE unopenminded. And you calling me indoctrinated is ignorance. Everyone is indoctrinated. You are indoctrinated to be Anti Scientology.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@blablabla1196 That's the point I was making, you're avoiding the subject. You'd rather get distracted with arguments about the philosophy of knowledge, than get into an honest discussion about Scientology's so called beliefs.
On that note, there's no logic in discounting objective evidence. If I've read evidence from 20 different engineers that all agree that a certain foot bridge won't support my weight, and if I try to walk across I'll die. I'm not going to make myself a guinea pig.
sk8mike 3 months ago
@sk8mike I'm avoiding the subject because there is no reason to get into a discussion about it. I wouldn't be able to convince you of anything with regards to Scientology via internet. When I read sources of anything on the internet, I accept the possibility of them being true from both angles. And thats where your example fails. There aren't two angles.What if you read evidence of 20 different engineers that all agree the bridge CAN support your weight? And it depends what the bridges use is.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@blablabla1196 It's very telling that you won't have an honest discussion with me. If you can't honestly discuss $cientology over the Internet, I have no reason to believe that you'd be any different in person. Actually there are two angles. You won't discuss Scientology because you know you it can't compete with other ideas. The Internet is the market place of ideas. If you can't sell your product over the Internet, you have a real problem.
sk8mike 3 months ago
(Cont)
Your whole "I can't tell you what the mystery product is until you buy it from me" sales pitch doesn't fly. It's dishonest. You're withholding information because you don't trust people enough to let them make their own educated decisions. You want to get people on your turf, where you have more control over the situation, and you can use your training in high presser sales tactics to manipulate them. That's how it works. (I mean you, as in $cientology.)
sk8mike 3 months ago
@sk8mike Let me put it this way. With regards to most of the information on the Internet about Scientology, I would agree with you that it is corrupt, cultish, etc. With regards to actual information you recieve from the church and the outcomes of testing the informtion, I don't agree with you that it would be corrupt, cultish, etc. Do you understand you're completely disagreeing with the Scientific Method? That is what I mean about individual experience.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@sk8mike (Continued)
You throw all your logic out when someone threatens your Anti Scientologist propaganda. I can have an honest discussion over the Internet about Scientology. I don't mind. But I can't convince you of anything. I on the other hand would most likely agree with some issues.
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@sk8mike (Continued) And even if I agree, I'm a Scientologist right? Because the fact that I'm defending it makes it true that I am? Or the fact that I don't defend it makes it true that I would be a part of this supposed cult of Scientology? You can't honestly believe that there is a possibility that someone who isn't a Scientologist, could defend it?
blablabla1196 3 months ago
@blablabla1196 You speak like a person in a cult. No one who practices a religion is afraid to state what that religion is. People will even die for the right to state it. You, on the other hand, would rather do anything BUT that and appear to have been trained by a cult to act offended and assign false motives to the questioner, be coy and him & haw - classic cult garbage. If you are not in a cult, you ape their behavior quite well. I hope I am wrong.
stellalouise1 3 months ago 4
hahah omg Scientology is the biggest scam i have ever heard he cant answer because he knows its not true and he sounds like an idiot
RRosiEE 3 months ago
really?! ridiculous...
77toene 3 months ago
Masonry has many names...
Sannypowa