Weaponology : Green Berets - part 5

[Roy39thArkInf]

our troops in the P.I. didn't start it with the old single action colt .45s. they went with the new Double action .38 colt (which is not the .38 special). It was ineffective. and so the SA colt was reissued because the .45 colt (now called the "long colt") had the same stopping power as the new .45 ACP in new autoloading pistol would have. These show make these mistakes all the time. The narrator really doesn't know much about these he is just the hired voice.

[nobodysman143]

@MasterBenBenWuWU Its most likely because the 9mm is a lighter round, and therefore you can carry more rounds on your person. But there isn't much of an advantage over the .45

[MasterBenBenWuWU]

Isn't one of the reasons the 45 was replaced by the 9mm because of it's better penetration of body armor or am I just theorizing?

[devilsadvocate22289]

It feels strangely ironic that my favorite pistol was designed because its predecessor, the .38 revolver couldn't kill my ancestors fast enough....

[dannymarashi]

@sargon08 its still a good choice, 101 years of use and still going strong. Go 1911

[MrDobans13]

If they want a 45 there are much better choices like a glock 21, 12+1, or an xd45. I do respect the 1911 but not the 7 or 8+1 capacity.

[MASEK1PROD]

@MrDobans13 true it's an American classic but i'd love any gun that has a .45 all American slugger. My personal fave is the UMP .45...mp5 is controllable but i'd rather drop someone with a bigger pistol round

[sargon08]

@MrDobans13 : Glock 21 is 13+1 = 14 rounds and i do agree with you Glock or an XDM in 45 ACP is better choices !!

[Cartmanland98]

yeah clay is NOTHING like human flesh. The gaping holes you get with a chunk of clay is ridiculous. Ballistic gel may not take into account human bones but neither does clay. The physics involved negate any argument for the use of clay. It's just laughable. I've also noticed that the narrator makes a lot of erroneous statements in most of the episodes. It's like they have some COD geek write up what he THINKS are facts and the narrator just does his job and reads what's on the paper.

[TheZacoff]

Just think if we could use hollow points in warfare. That would solve some pistol stopping power problems.

[artacania]

The Colt 45. is a great piece of tech. to bad they dont make gun designers like S.Colt or J.M. Browning

[MSM4U2POM]

I knew next to nothing about the Green Berets before I watched this video, and I must say, they sound impressive.

[DutchManticore]

LOL! Clay accurately mimics human flesh. That's completely rediculous.

[OmicronChan]

@DutchManticore u'd be suprised.... try hacking at some soft, wet, brown clay with a kitchen knife and then have a go at a slab of pork belly and ud realise its remarkably similar... the density is similar, obviously it is not fibrous like flesh is... but close enough

[DutchManticore]

@OmicronChan

Hmm... well I still prefer ballistic gel personally.

But meh.

I'll try it sometimes.

[OmicronChan]

@DutchManticore clay is cheaper :P ballistic gel costs alot more to make, and ballistic gell doesnt account for bones and the texture of flesh either.

its like swords being tested for flesh cutting capacity with tatami straw scrolls

[extondude]

the've never heard of ballistic gel

[koshaboycortez]

he was in panama

[koshaboycortez]

hey my dad took out that guy

[Unit987654321]

I do not understand the point of having more power, the Colt .45 holds a mag with 7 rounds while the M9 holds 15, each weapons is capable of having 1 round already chambered so that makes it 8 and 16, respectively. A bullet hits you, no matter what happens, you're in pain and panic overwhelms. Not to mention the difference in recoil between the 2 weapons. I would prefer the M9 over the Colt .45.

[gracey1472]

all you 1911 user , including me.. have to say thank you to the moro warriors of the philippines hahaha with out them cal 45 1911 will never be in reality ..this warriors are legendary i fought them during my service in the phil marines in solo and mindanao they dont accept prisoners i lost many of my comrades in close range jungle warfare. beheaded them cut ther penis cut them in half very barbarek!!! fuck this muslim moro!!!! may you rest in peace brothers

[pedal2th3metal]

3:28 fast zombie form HL2 D:

[marine9588]

This year narks the 100th year anniversery of the M1911, arguably the greatest pistol ever designed. John Browning was a gun genius for coming up with it and the M2 .50 cal HMG one of the best machine guns of the 20th century.

[StarStreak00]

lol comparing a 9mm and a 45. ACP is like comparing penis sizes..... Which would you want

[JayJay1990fromwiehl]

Colt 1911- 100 years in service!

[JAYFROMHARLEM]

@JayJay1990fromwiehl I LOVE THE 1911 WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART AND WEAPON

[JayJay1990fromwiehl]

@JAYFROMHARLEM yea but unfortunately I maybe never get to shoot it because of the German gun laws...:´(

[slidersawesome]

AR 15 NOT CAR 15

[seancul55]

@slidersawesome ar 15 is the m16's daddy. m16 gave birth to the car 15, making the ar 15 its grandaddy. car 15 is correct. it's the old carbine version of the m16 (shorter barrel and buttsock, less weight, more maneuverable). car 15 gave birth to the m4 which hasn't quite given birth to the hk 416 as the army hasn't yet decided upon the m4/m16a4's replacement yet, but the hk is the frontrunner most believe. the plan is to replace the remaining m16s with the current m4s, and the m4s with the hk.

[MASEK1PROD]

@seancul55 irrelevant..H&K is on their top list but isn't the frontrunner...they wanted a more suitable american made rifle so they gave Daniel Defense,Knights Armament, Barrett and LWRC to give a chance to create a rifle. And LWRC's M6 series made that pick with the new 6.8 SPC beating the 5.56 NATO.

[seancul55]

@MASEK1PROD Last I checked, the HK is the favorite weapon of DEVGRU/CAG (was used in bin Laden raid), and one look at any HVP protection detail and one sees security personnel with the HK. It's still an open competition, but the military tends to let their Tier 1 and other SOF units decide on their favorite, then incorporate it with the rest of the military. At least right now, the HK is the favorite in the "big boys club." We will see of the M6 can dethrone it, but for now HK is the leader.

[MASEK1PROD]

@seancul55 it's what's in the budget...right now i'm hearing that all US special forces love the M6 and DEA uses the M6A2 DEA version and a lot of law enforcement like SWAT highly recommends it. The weapon system adopted the AK style gas-operating and so did the 416 but the 416 uses different materials that makes the barrel cooler which prevents the round cooking. I do like H&K but i highly take pride in our rifles and anything made in the USA. You can look at the reliability test on both...

[seancul55]

@MASEK1PROD If you take pride in American rifles, then know the 416 uses the AR (particularly, M4) package, but takes it to another level. The patent on the AR ran out so it's open season on updating it, if I'm correct. HK is one of the finest gun-makers in the world. The MP5 is a masterpiece of engineering: the finest SMG in the world. I can only imagine what the 416 is like.

Either way, I don't care which the Army chooses, as long as they give our soldiers the BEST. May the best win.

[MASEK1PROD]

@seancul55 i agree may our military be equipped with the finest hardware of warfare....i'm glad SF has to choose the weapon of choice but again i just want an American rifle for America's military...our economy is down and we gotta make profit....it's most likely the 416 will make it because the 6.8 is too expensive but the M6 can chamber a 556 also but mainly they want it in 6.8

[seancul55]

@MASEK1PROD I mean, how many people do you really think one gun factory gives jobs to? If we want to revive the economy, we need to do a bit more than give a couple hundred factory workers jobs. I say give the boys the best gear, American, Dutch, German, Ethiopian, whatever. There are other things we can do in America for that will result in a lot more jobs such as giving people jobs to rebuild our infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges) like we did in the 30s and 40s with the Depression.

[seancul55]

@MASEK1PROD Oh, and for the record it was actually CAG (Delta) that contacted HK in the first place about making a new M4. The 416 was the result and CAG has been using it as their primary rifle since 2004.

Again though, if the 6.8 proves itself better I'm all for it. I just want the guys to have the best. Just saying, the 416 seems to have the edge as they often test this stuff out at the Spec Ops side of things, and they LOVE the 416.

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 the marines use the 416 now the rest of the military uses the AR15 platform ( M4/M16)

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 False. The Marine Corps' funding is shit, and in fact many of their INFANTRY soldiers are still using older versions of the M16 unfortunately. The Corps is using the M4 and various versions of the M16, even on the front lines. The Army, on the other hand is using the M4 exclusively in the combat MOSs while the support troops are armed with M16A4s. Now, only JSOC and USSOCOM units have access to the 416 as it's first being tested by the elite operators, like every other new toy.

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 from the US produced magizine i have it says that the marines are using the 416 . it could be wrong though for all i know

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 The only Marine units that MIGHT be using the 416 are the MSOTs, because they are a USSOCOM unit. All conventional and recon marines however do not. The way it works in the US military is that all the "new toys and gadgets" get tested out by the spec ops boys first, and a couple years later the conventional units get it, as the special operations guys get the newer, new gear. Ex: 416 replaces M4, M4 replaces M16, M16 is retired.

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 all i have to say to that is .... military contracts go to the lowest bidder

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 You're a 16 year old Canadian kid. I don't think you know how military contracts go. Not trying to be a dick, but c'mon. Military contracts go to the BEST PRODUCT at the price range the military sets. The companies in competition then cater to the specs the military gives them, and the best product wins. How would I know? My father worked at one of those companies for 20 years. I also know the 416 isn't in the "big" Army or Marine Corps yet, as no contracts have been offered.

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 im a 16 year old Canadian kid with MANY ties to the military ( father, grandfater ,friends and my officers ) let alone the fact that I'm in army cadets and I'm trained by military servicemen and women . also following army news and i do my fair share of reading into things .so from what i read "the marines where testing out their new 416s "

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 You're also a 16 year old Canadian kid that makes life size paper mache assault rifles...

You have no idea what the process is for military contracts in the US government. I don't care what Canadian boyscout groups you're in. Again, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but the government has NOT picked up the 416 on a contract yet. In fact, technically the competition is still alive with other next gen rifles. CAG asked H&K to make them a rifle, the 416 was the result. Conventional

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55  your a total dick by saying Army Cadets is like " Canadian boyscout group " its like that for air cadets , but not even close for army . so in same respects to you knowing more about the american military ,don't say shit about the cadet program untill you come up here and serve in a corp , also i don't think scouts can get their para wings , or shoot C7s. let alone that their uniforms are crap compared to ours lol

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 Ok dude tell me how your paper mache SCAR turns out lol

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 what ? lol im making a FN49 ? and its just something to do when i have a little free time here and their

[seancul55]

@ArrowSmith95 units however are not yet using the system. JSOC and USSOCOM units are the only ones "playing" with the "new toys" right now. Based on their recommendations, the Army and Corps will likely make a decision. I could see the 416 being adapted by the US military in a couple years, but RIGHT NOW the M4 and M16A4 are still the line rifles of the Marine Corps. Trust me.

I'm thinking I'm done on this one now.

[ArrowSmith95]

@seancul55 seems legit . lol have a good one bud .

[Kinvariz123]

@seancul55

Depends, the m27 is in service and the difference is negligable..

[seancul55]

@Kinvariz123 The IAR literally has nothing to do with the topic we were discussing.

[TheMamaluigi2]

@slidersawesome no its car 15 dumb ass the car 15 is a shorter version of the ar 15

[texasrangersr1]

@slidersawesome CAR 15 is a model of the AR 15 the CAR 15 is the precursor of the M4 look it up the CAR 15 was produced as a carbine of the M16/AR 15

[Anandaxp]

the person in black n white with gloves, explaining weapons reminds me of Humpty Dumpty . LOL

[jusilatin]

@Anandaxp Somehow when i read this, i think of the Military Historian.. Is he th one you're talking about? :p

[Anandaxp]

@jusilatin yeah i guess. He's one with bald head ryt. LOL

[theproudicelander]

The 9 mm was adopted because it was adopted as nato standard, the nato standards are 7.62, 5.56 and the 9 mm

[usnavysss]

@theproudicelander

Thats why in America we have a sayn what ever the genuiva convention don't know won't hurt so we got mark23 and bush master :)

[TheNavysealsrock]

Delta Force- best of the best!

[3vegemite]

Does anyone else find this childishly- Call-of-Duty-kid- like commentator annoying?

[ampz37]

dear m1911,

happy 100th birthday, may you keep firing

[GunsOfThePhoenix]

Just replace the 9mm and .45 acp with the .40 cal. The best of both worlds.

[aaronlin52]

the 1911 cavitation on the clay only became larger after the guy pulled it open lolol

[scaryman101086]

long live the 9mm action 3 ;) which gives more stopping power and less penetration

[texasrangersr1]

@scaryman101086 piece of shit 9mm probably cant go through a piece of notebook paper lol

[Liist]

I remember seeing the Discovery channel thing on the Navy SEALs. The weapons instructor, when talking about the 9mm P226, said "if I put two in your heart and one in your head, you wouldn't know the difference."

[Alexn1067]

@Liist dude its a simple fact, .45 is more effective then the 9mm. Although the 9mm is lethal, the .45 is even more so, and when you're facing an enemy hoped up on "uppers" like many in our military have....it will make a difference

[EscpdFrmPsykward]

@Liist Exactly. With a 9mm pistol you have to be accurate and you keep shooting until the threat is down. That's what makes the MP5 so successful. You spray the fucker, giving him multiple wounds causing catastrophic damage. A 9mm pistol with a mag capacity of 15 rounds is supposed to do the same thing, that's why you have 15 rounds in the mag! lol. I love the 1911 and 45ACP but you are very limited in capacity and you still have to hit what you're aiming at, it's not a death ray.

[ladiesman27813]

@Liist  That guy's voice is irratating it's so condesending

[mrkprice]

no wonder they can shoot good t they are all fat !!!!

[northwi60]

Just a trivial fact - The Moros' used to tie off their arms and legs just before going into battle to impede their circulation in case they took bullets to their limbs so they wouldn't bleed out and could remain in battle. They were fierce warriors.

[james64844]

@northwi60 word. 

[luis545x39]

@northwi60 they also got high before going to battle

[vincimus29]

@northwi60 I am from the Philippines and its a common belief that the .45 helped in the victory of US over the Muslims in the Philippines. In reality this was not the case, a book by Jeff Cooper (if my memory serves me right) mentioned that it was a certain model of shotgun that was used. In addition please do not refer to them as Moros (during 1900s it was the prevailing view but now in our contemporary times its a politically in correct term) but Muslim Filipinos during the early 1900s.Thanks

[quickzilver333]

@northwi60 Are you talking about the Moro's in the Philippines? Thay also use some sort of stimulants like drugs during battle.

[mafana0]

Soundtrack at 3:53 ROCKS!!! whats is it?????

[usnavysss]

easy make a 2 round burst 9mm pistol problem solved.

[dragonblizzard1]

1 dislike = 1 british

[XvChriisvX]

even if the 9mm hits you, your still going to die, your not jus gonna stand there when a bullet went through you, your gonna get dropped

[NervigesDings]

@XvChriisvX That isn't the Problem. The Problem with lowcaliber ammunition is that it does not necessarily stop you the second it hits. If a 9mm or smaller caliber (the .25Tokarev is a great example because it even penetrates armour but has a damn poor stopping power) hits you not the right way you will maybe not keep running, but you will keep shooting. a .45 hits anywhere else then the arms and legs and you are f**king done immediatly.

[XvChriisvX]

@NervigesDings only problem is ammo capacity, and yea, i heard a story of someone being shot by a .357 magnum and not falling down, forget w/e i jus said lmao

[NervigesDings]

@XvChriisvX true,ammo capacity of the classic 1911 is, considering todays standards, pretty low. but there are multiple 15round clip versions on the market today. oh and, never mind. happens to all of us sometimes that we write things we wouldn't sign the way we wrote them afterwards^^

[cgo2551]

GOD DAMN RIGHTS ITS AN AMERICAN LEGAND

[fittansmakarsaft]

who checks the facts in this program? Stupid fucking american inbreed bullshit!

This is pure ficiton, nothing ads up to real world facts.

[de4th1snt3nough]

@fittansmakarsaft dude calm down I hate this show too because it has so many stupid and wrong facts but don't think this represents america, I'm american and I hate this show

[ksk583]

@HappyNegroid

yes but only 7 rounds

[0xXSilentSandsXx0]

still 9mm will hurt like fuck

[ezekielishappy]

my fav hand guns Mark 23

almost any 1911 clone

and any glock

[MasterNinjaMonkey]

What is the difference between Special Forces and Special operations Forces? Which one does more missions?

[TheSilentOne50]

i have to say, the M1911 was an extremely well made pistol. But i think that everyone should move on to a FN Five seven.  That pistol is so badass. it holds 20 ROUNDS!!!

[installermaster]

@TheSilentOne50 totaly either that or a usp chambered in .45 or .40 sw

[DDTea]

Why is it that every former SF, SEAL, or Marine I see always has a huge gut? No disrespect intended, but it's counter-intuitive. 

[MyREDTAIL]

@DDTea YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REMEMBER YOU SAID " FORMER " THEY ARE RETIRED & CAN EAT THE CILIVIAN WAY & DO NOT HAVE TO TRAIN EVER SO HARD ANY MORE.

[DDTea]

@MyREDTAIL Hah, I figured it was something like that.

[johnthesencond]

@DDTea Good American Eating

[IamaRifle]

I prefer an HK USP. More bullets.

[Thrabit]

@IamaRifle thats cos you cant shoot for shit

[IamaRifle]

I'm more worried about more enemies. If you have to use your sidearm then you are really in a shit situation. I'm not going to worry about pinpointing, I'm going to go center chest and nuts on the trigger.

[MyREDTAIL]

@IamaRifle The only disagreement I have about the video is that with either the 9MM or the 45 ACP, they are testing with FMJ I guarantee if they were using JHP in testing or combat you would see more reliable knock down power with NO Passthrough's to a human target.

[IamaRifle]

@MyREDTAIL With JHP 9mm, 40sw, and 45acp all have about the same ballistics. When it comes to JHP the 9mm is the way to go. Too bad we let pussies put rules in war.

[CaliYoungGun1991]

now those are the types of battles I enjoy reading about 2:19

[Ranger75thMac]

3:10 How come I wasn't taught to shoot my sidearm so expertly!

[hehehe929]

@Ranger75thMac ill give that a thumbs up

[baron8107]

@Ranger75thMac Looks funny don't it?

[Hotshotter3000]

The Colt 1911 is a good gun. Very powerful and extremely reliable, but the magazine capacity leaves something to be desired. it has a total of 7 cartridges in the magazine. The M9 Beretta has 15 shots, and the Glocks have between 15 to 18 rounds. There are also Glocks in .45. One advantage that the .45 does have is the subsonic rounds, making it easier to use with a suppressor for quiet work.

[D0ublezer0x]

@Hotshotter3000

actually the glock .45 is 13+1 but it has many other advantages over the 1911

[cmdrdredd]

@D0ublezer0x However, a 1911 has a better trigger, better ergonomics, is a thinner profile, has extra safeties to render the firearm safe, and is a classic design.

[D0ublezer0x]

@cmdrdredd better trigger yep better ergo i preffer the glock so that point isnt really valid thinner yep extra safeties that's a bad thing. i want as little time as possible to bring my weapon into action classic design so what?

[TheGerManMarC]

great show thx for posting!

[bathlarper]

The graphic of the 9mm going through a target shows shows the bullet passing laterally through the guys liver. He'd drop from and shock alone if shot side to through the torso at that point.

[fitzirilo]

@bathlarper Of course he'd drop from shock but maybe not after squeezing off a few rounds from his own weapon, and say for instance that he does go to the ground instantly; he'd still be alive and the last thing any soldier would want is somebody who they just shot raising the gun and pulling the trigger while pointing it at them.

[ChewbacaTW]

It doesn't matter if you are using a 9mm or a .45acp, your attacker can be high as a kite and if you put 2 in the chest and one in the head they aren't going to be a problem anymore, training + 9mm > little training + .45acp. but to be perfectly fair to the .45 (which i like by the way) it's all about preference and need. with the .45 you tend to sacrifice distance and accuracy, but it's more idiot proof backs a bigger punch.

[fitzirilo]

@ChewbacaTW You do sacrifice distance and accuracy but the main reason for using the pistol is for CQB where distance and accuracy are not so necessary.

[ChewbacaTW]

@fitzirilo I see the point that you're trying to make, but a sidearm is very rarely used in CQB. It's almost always a backup gun in a military application because, lets face it, there are alot better CQB weapons. The mp5, the UMP, but if your main weapon goes down for any reason and you still need to put accurate fire downrange at short to medium ranges, then the 9mm is what you want. Not the 45acp. Thats all I'm saying. Use the appropriate caliber for the operation at hand.

[cmdrdredd]

@ChewbacaTW I'll take a .45acp myself because I don't have access to JHP ammo in a military environment. Plus the 1911 has a better trigger and better profile than any other semi auto in production, making it very shootable.

[jeffrsnoo7]

good to know more about history.... I didn't know that American liberation to the Philppines help mold the pistol generation.

[heldelance]

Hague you nublet.

[JiMfraRED1911]

Hauge Convention you nubs.

[ShadoWafel]

man i love this show so much...

finaly somthing interasting and educational at the same time!

[hydrofal78]

both teachers and soldiers

[MrJrMcLovin]

this does not answer my question, are they teachers or soldiers ?

[foxychocho]

Really? Maybe you should watch the entire series again, and I'm sure you'd get an idea of what SF does.

[TaZ101SAGA]

USP.45 pistol is awesome too!

[SeeYouNextFall]

If you had a high quality 9mm Hollow Point, it would do the same amount of damage as a .45 FMJ round.

[nightshade288]

no to mention 9mm has lower recoil

[jarlarthas666]

damage is one thing a .45 has more stopping force than a 9mm making it very important to day agenist sucicde bombers

[SeeYouNextFall]

@jarlarthas666

Thats not accurate.

A quality 9mm hollow point has more energy inside flesh then .45 ball ammo.

[LupisLupine]

If you're going to bring hollow point rounds into account, the .45ACP has them too. It's still a large heavy round that will send a serious shock to their system on impact and it's hollow point so it will do massive physical damage as well.

Also, the energy transfer of a 9mm is rather low. It's a smaller high velocity bullet that doesn't transfer energy well. A .45ACP is slow and heavy. The larger bullet and slower velocity means it can transfer more energy in the same amount of time.

[travman8589]

@SeeYouNextFall too bad hallow points are not allowed in the military

[SeeYouNextFall]

@travman8589

Thats somewhat true. Itrs actually the Geneva convention that prohibits hollow points for general battlefield use.

But there are Spec Op forces that use some hollow points for some sniper applications.

Also, the Geneva convention does not cover private contractor forces like Blackwater and others.

Thet are allowed to use almost anything they want in combat.

Plus, we private citizens often carry hollow points for self defense.

[iCoptici]

i carry .45 ACP hollows for mine

[iCoptici]

hey buddy. if u use hollow point .45 it has more energy then a 9mm hollow. and u gotta remeber rules and regulations of war consider hollow points on the battle feild illegel.

[bathlarper]

@iCoptici That always makes me laugh. The military are actively trying to kill people and declare HP rounds illegal whilst police forces use them all the time to 'save lives'.

[iCoptici]

@bathlarper lol i know. politics fuck us every where we turn if you know what i mean.

[fitzirilo]

@SeeYouNextFall This is very true. The 9mm hollow point both provide an equally devastating amount of damage to tissue and organs but the 9mm just lacks that "knock down or stopping power" that the .45 ACP delivers on impact. I still prefer 9mm Glock for my own personal use but if i was in a CQB situation, .45 no doubt about it.

[Hordekohr]

@fitzirilo Especially since hollow points are banned in warfare as per the Geneva convention.

[cmdrdredd]

@Hordekohr it's actualy tha Hague Accord. Not the Geneva convention.

[joe8314]

special force or otherwise, still cant escape from suffering casualties, its always human error ,human mistakes. which have massive conseqeunces

[nightshade288]

u r right but lets say ur gun jams that is not ur fault but 90% of the time is a human error

[Fight4MyCountry]

the green berets are awesome

[blitzkrieg459]

glock 21.

[CrystalHunter1989]

I've got nothing against the .45 ACP except that it's just wayyy to expensive for a person like me...

[masterlukes6000]

Desert Eagle all the way

[haleymadimckenzie]

i think that the desert eagle is to overated because a 45. will take down somebody why would you need a bigger heaver gun and round if the smaller guy will still kill somebody

[masterlukes6000]

because it takes more rounds from a 9mm to kill somebody than a .45. with a m9 you can carry twice as many rounds as a Desert Eagle, but takes three rounds to do the job of one .45. Do the math

[nightshade288]

no just 2 bullets not to mention the m9 has more capacity

[nightshade288]

let me guess cod fan boy desert eagles are heavy has lots of recoil and the ammo is heavy and expensive

[masterlukes6000]

If your a pilot behind enemy lines and all you have is a pistol. I want bullet that will take down the enemy.

Also if someone is wearing body armor a 9mm won't do shit. where the .45 can a least knock them down even if it doesn't penetrate.

[joecoolbackinschool]

5.7 :)

[haleymadimckenzie]

u know you can buy it on itunes

[RAWKLOBSTAR]

9mm is .354 inches, which is not "little more than half the diameter of a .45".

[Hordekohr]

@RAWKLOBSTAR I thought the same thing, considering the .45 ACP is 11.43mm.

[PARR53]

@RAWKLOBSTAR Shot placement matters much more than caliber used I dont care what they say. 2 to the chest and 1 to the head. The bad guy wont know the difference between 9mm or .45acp. Both are excellent rounds for anti personal.

[cmdrdredd]

@PARR53 Yes but when you're talking ball ammo, or FMJ rounds not the JHP rounds used by law enforcement and personal defense, you want the larger diameter bullet. A 9mm modern defense round is probably as effective as a .45acp round, but in FMJ form, no way. Also in the historical aspect mentioned, nobody was using modern powders and bullet technology.

[ahoyhoy79]

@RAWKLOBSTAR ur looking at it in the wrong way. its the area/volume of the bullet for starters that matters. area is proportional to diameter squared. thats what makes 45 so much more powerful over 9mm

[pcatp]

@RAWKLOBSTAR well your stupid

[felixu95]

@RAWKLOBSTAR He probably meant half the mass, not diameter.

[shk9664]

@RAWKLOBSTAR yeah yeah this video tells us why america is soo awesome, but when will they switch over to metric?

[94phenom]

@shk9664 never. we tried that once before and it didn't work for us

[shk9664]

@94phenom lawls.

[Michael2987]

lmao those 2 holes were the same size

[kyl64]

@Michael2987

seriously... they didn't even pry open the 9mm one.

But it is true though, the .45 tumbles more than the 9mm does. They just didn't do a good job explaining.

[ostjak]

9 mm is "a little more than half" of 11.4 mm now?

[FoxIceDaniels]

its just a good solid gun.

[narak400]

i love the 1911 it makes me smile

[666wang]

The U.S., special forces carry 1911 auto pistols in combat? I think it's a great pistol. It is still use today in our Military throughout the world.

[nightshade288]

yes, but you can choose a m1911 m9 or a mk23 whick is the same that the the 1911 but with a larger magazine and a flashlight and laser built in i would choose the m9 cuz you can do an easy and lethal double tap