Quick querey. How many coaches were in that train? And did she eventually manage to depart wit hall of them? because if that slipping was continuous and went on for over 5 mins i have to say im very suprised they didn't get hold of a nearby 66 or 67 (or what ever diesels may have been available) to help her along the way.
You have to read the explanation just below the movie. It was a sticking brake causing the trouble not the fault of the loco or the driver. They cured it OK after the coaches were painfully moved to the departure platform.
also in the rule book. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PULL THE STRING WHILE THE TRAIN IS IN SERVICE. this has to apply for this as well.
if you are going to pull all the strings, and you are saying that one bogie. now you can get very tectical over this. when you pull a string to release the vacumn, what happens?
sorry i wasnt trying to be awkward traincrew124, purely my understanding of the general appendix section for working of the vacuum brake. pulling the strings would only balance each vacuum/reservoir cylinder for each bogie back to that of the vacuum of the loco. however you could isolate a single bogie on a mk1 and prevent vacuum being made by pulling the 1 string and corking the feed. above 9 coaches, 1 bogie may be isolated in this way (16.2). however guidelines may have changed...
this will not do anything to the train. because when you pull the strings, the loco will build up the vacuum level again. And you should never pull any strings when a train is in service. And you could say when pull the strings, there is about 330+ tonnes. if you move them, the only brake you would have is the loco brake, and it will take some time to stop that train.
The string could be pulled for the affected bogie whilst in service, pipe removed off the feed and corked to prevent vacuum being made to the wheelset. For this length, as long as only 1 bogie on the train is in this state and it is not behind the rearmost brake van, it can still run at line speed, : BR Rule Book.
gr8 video 5 star. i have got some footage of the flying scotsman sliping away from stratford-on-avon but i don't know how to get it on to youtube from my cam. 5 stars
u can see sparks at around 2:13 from the front driving wheel :)
vikingsmb 2 months ago
its not better if someone buts a bit sand on the track ???...for more grip ?????
Kovi1850 6 months ago
Quick querey. How many coaches were in that train? And did she eventually manage to depart wit hall of them? because if that slipping was continuous and went on for over 5 mins i have to say im very suprised they didn't get hold of a nearby 66 or 67 (or what ever diesels may have been available) to help her along the way.
Cracking footage though!! 5* & a Fav !!
whitewingsrich 9 months ago
You have to read the explanation just below the movie. It was a sticking brake causing the trouble not the fault of the loco or the driver. They cured it OK after the coaches were painfully moved to the departure platform.
Remsys 8 months ago
@Remsys
back then they didn't have 66/67s it would be either a 37, or a 47 possibly a class 50/ 60 :) 47s are the best though. and 37's
vikingsmb 2 months ago
@whitewingsrich and if you note the date. 1994. Class 66 or 67 didn't even exist
Benjy5997 6 months ago
This is how they often started when under load in steam days! But would get going after one or two slips, unlike this example.
djburland 1 year ago
save reprofiling the wheels ;P
trainkid1 2 years ago
also in the rule book. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PULL THE STRING WHILE THE TRAIN IS IN SERVICE. this has to apply for this as well.
if you are going to pull all the strings, and you are saying that one bogie. now you can get very tectical over this. when you pull a string to release the vacumn, what happens?
traincrew124 2 years ago
sorry i wasnt trying to be awkward traincrew124, purely my understanding of the general appendix section for working of the vacuum brake. pulling the strings would only balance each vacuum/reservoir cylinder for each bogie back to that of the vacuum of the loco. however you could isolate a single bogie on a mk1 and prevent vacuum being made by pulling the 1 string and corking the feed. above 9 coaches, 1 bogie may be isolated in this way (16.2). however guidelines may have changed...
nymhrtltd 2 years ago
uhhhhh...vacuum brakes...
s7o0a0p 2 years ago
I swear at 4:49 it was going to explode with all of that smoke!
JD41796 2 years ago
Great Video, 5 Stars! Any Idea where the tour ran from/to?
60103Henry 2 years ago
Thanks. The tour was a return trip from London Marylebone to Stratford-on-Avon (via Banbury and Leamington).
Remsys 2 years ago
Thanks, thats most helpfull!
60103Henry 2 years ago
Why didn't they just pull the strings under the coach in question and move the brake away from the wheel?
duke68012 2 years ago 4
that probably would break some regulation
elixaristhedragon 2 years ago 3
this will not do anything to the train. because when you pull the strings, the loco will build up the vacuum level again. And you should never pull any strings when a train is in service. And you could say when pull the strings, there is about 330+ tonnes. if you move them, the only brake you would have is the loco brake, and it will take some time to stop that train.
traincrew124 2 years ago
The string could be pulled for the affected bogie whilst in service, pipe removed off the feed and corked to prevent vacuum being made to the wheelset. For this length, as long as only 1 bogie on the train is in this state and it is not behind the rearmost brake van, it can still run at line speed, : BR Rule Book.
nymhrtltd 2 years ago
watch my vid to see her in streamlined casing captured today!
EastMidlandsSteam 2 years ago
Please
60103Henry 2 years ago
gr8 video 5 star. i have got some footage of the flying scotsman sliping away from stratford-on-avon but i don't know how to get it on to youtube from my cam. 5 stars
roodashtonhall2k8 3 years ago 2
AAAA. 041715Z FEB 2009 A good video this thank you for posting.......AR.
fourwayscottage 3 years ago
Fantastic piece of video. Thanks for sharing.
HentisD6569 3 years ago 2
RTFM as they used to say :)
If you look at the notes at the top RHS under (more info) you get a full explanation.
Remsys 3 years ago
ahh i see thank you :)
Cromwell had a bit of a slip pulling away from Quorn at the Great Central yesterday, its always impressive when it's a large loco!
elmski1987 3 years ago 2
fantastic. my grandad has build the city of carlisle 6238 LMS in 5 inch gauge really amazing
chicago8607 3 years ago 2