I cannot live life further in the way that I used to do.
After I started thinking about the world, my entire life changed. One goal in life left..
That goal weighs very heavy on me, and it is ABOUT other people's happiness.
In my case, suicide is a selfish action. All it would do free me from a problem inflicted upon myself at the expense of everyone else. But, I cannot do that even if the feeling is strong enough.
You may want to think about the effects of your video...
But ultimately the one question you should ask yourself is whether or not the thoughts or feelings are functionally necessary which mostly but not entirely breaks down to "is it good for my...
A lot of reasons people have for their emotions are made up to try to explain them when really all emotions roots back to evolution and natural selection in some way. If a person feels bad it probably is not for the reasons they are imagining, and what they should do is go out and build opportunities for success. This isn't to say we should all go out and start having lots of babies. Long-term(across many generations) reproductive success requires the attainment of a stable, comfortable...
There's a few that are in self-interest like the fear that hooks your feet to the sidewalk when you hear a car wizzing by. But most "bad feelings" are completely unnecessary. A good question to ask yourself is whether your emotions help you within your evolutionary context, since that's the meaning of life to survive and to propagate DNA. I'm not against childlessness as childless couples can promote natural selection through helping their kin.
Anorexia shows physical chemistry, yet it is disproportionately higher in the U.S. In the U.S. there are overblown standards of beauty for women. Our brain is made of neurons which transfer chemicals and energy at high speeds. The greatest influence on a person's brain chemistry is their social environment and how they choose to interact with and perceive it.
Think of all the things we're taught should make us feel bad, ask yourself whether it serves your own...
...have to put emotional stock in the concept of "failure".
Why should I or anybody else care about failure? What good does that do? If I choose not to care about failure and I succeed then I am successful and happy. If I choose not to care and I fail then I've failed but the important thing is that I'm happy. If I choose to care and fail anyways I've wasted my time on unpleasant emotions. If I care and then succeed then it's an empty success because worrying about failure...
What if in some cases people don't do as I suggested in my other comments or what is suggested in these videos because when they talk about their problems people are too afraid to make these suggestions out of sensitivity?
What if there are people who could've been helped with just a little advice who instead go through an extreme amount of therapy because people are too afraid to try these simple methods first?
It might just not have occured to a person that they don't actually..
Hello, my name is Lynsay and I just wanted to tell you how much of an inspiration you are to me. I discovered this video when I was in a depressive state and it really brought my moods up. I watched it a few more times since, & I really love your message. Thank you, Andy Grant. You are an incredible person. c:
I think you should make a clear disclaimer in the beginning of all your videos that you're only sharing what helped (you), and that you're not trying to suggest that everyone can just positive think their way out of suicidal thoughts. That sometimes it requires psycho therapy and sometimes it requires medication. intenseto deal with issues from the past that led to the manner of thinking, and to reprogram that thinking. Your messages come across as quick fixes. Just do this" type of thing.
Unless you've ever experienced clinical depression, schizophrenia or bi-polar, for example, you couldn't possibly understand how your messages can actually cause people who are, to feel even more worthless and more suicidal. Reason; they can't just snap out of it by positive thinking. So, people like you suggesting that's what it takes is like telling those people that they're failures, (which they already feel and is why they're suicidal), because they can't do it without medical help..
@MegaJoyful123 Everything I say and do is based on my own personal experiences. Years of medical help didn't help me. I'm sharing what has worked for me. That is all I can do.
"Failures" is a social label. Why do people put any emotional stock in it, what influences made that word an important one? I personally do not care what those words mean. They could decide instead that they WERE(past tense) failures rather than are and decide they are turning over a completely new leaf and that because it would hurt themselves if they were to dwell on the past that they should forgive themselves entirely and just move on.
@sicktoaster If you had read for comprehension you'd get that "failure" is a word people who are suicidal often think and feel about themselves, and I know that first-hand. "Turning over a completely new leaf" is something people who don't have chemical imbalances can do. I was speaking about those who have physiological imbalances, (be it in the brain, the thyroid, any female hormone imbalance etc.) and that to suggest Andy's or your ideas would work for them is irresponsible.
To just get up and walk your brain has to send a chemical signal to your legs.
Therefore, all psychological difference(not necessarily disorder, but any difference) can be put into physical terms,
and yet this also means we have control over the physics of our own brains. It is tricky, because we can't know moment-to-moment what our brain chemistry is and even if we did you'd have to have at least some understanding of neuroscience to piece it together in a helpful way...
...However, it does mean that things like positive thinking have chemical effects. Every single thought you have has chemical effects. You don't necessarily need drugs to change brain chemistry.
I once had very bad psychological problems, but through self-psychoanalysis I can roughly put together how to "operate" my brain via thought. Granted this is mostly done through the medium of abstractions, and I'm still just learning about neurology, and it is a process that can not be
rushed. I'm long away from being able to put thoughts and chemical signals together scientifically, but it is an aspiration of mine.
So, while you're right that telling people this positive thinking stuff won't help everybody, it is not impossible it could help someone who is far gone. Psychological difficulty is not linear. A person could appear severely gone and recover quickly from what would appear to be too simple. Similarly, a person who seems completely sane could...
One thing I learned is that an understanding of neuroanatomy is not enough.
You need to pay attention to the full anatomy. The entire body is an interactive system. What happens in one place affects the rest. Psychology should expand its understanding by examining how physical issues outside the brain correlate with psychological problems, as well as studying how various patterns of external stimuli and internal thought processes have physical effects.
You speak of suicide as though it's something everyone can just positive think their way out of thinking depressive thoughts, and you call those thoughts "ignorance" and a "lack of seeing another way". You are aware, are you not, that many suicides are caused by mental illness such as clinical depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar etc.? I think your videos on suicide are irresponsible and flippant, because your views are based solely on your own experiences, and not on being educated about it.
Physical reductionism is vulgar, it reduces humans to objects.
Just to type what you typed required your brain to send lots of chemical signals.
Therefore, every action we choose to take has effects down the line on our brain chemistry.
Acting like physical structures means it's completely fixed that way and can not be changed is the sort of physical reductionist ideological clap trap that leads people to feel so helpless in the first place.
@sicktoaster You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. You think too much and do it without any knowledge of what it is you're thinking about, then post an opinion from that. When someone is so deep in despair and there's a physical cause for it, positive thinking isn't going to help them because they either couldn't get there to positive think even if they tried or they couldn't stay there if they tried. To suggest that's all it takes is as I said before, irresponsible.
@sicktoaster I'm suggesting people go to therapy, use self-help books etc. first and re-program their brain to think in the positive, break old patterns. After having done that if they still can't positive think their way out of deep depression, then there may well be a physical cause. I speak from experience and is why I know that for someone to hear just what Andy says and to just try that, if it doesn't help them, then what? Makes them feel worse if they can't do it.
Someone linked me this video because of how hilariously poor your points were, I'm not personally suicidal but I can see how terrible your arguments are. In fact if it weren't for the 500 character limit I would inform you right now how bad it is. Maybe I'll post is somewhere else where you'll see it.
@Reiken37 Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. I'm glad you aren't suicidal and I enoyed the rant you sent to me. In fact, I'd like to post it to my blog unless you have any objections to that.
@PlasticVille Okay now I know you made this video for the sole purpose of tricking people into thinking that you were serious. If you had read my "rant" then you'd realize that I went through point by point why this video is full of various fallacies. Your response doesn't correlate at all with what your next logical course of action should be.
@Reiken37 The video is completely serious. It is based on my experiences and opinions, hence no fallacies I felt the need to debate you on. I'm curious, what did you see as my next logical course of action?
@PlasticVille If you sincerely believe the ideas that you bring up in this video, then you should feel obligated to defend them. Did you ever consider the possibility that you're wrong? Or is it that your first interpretation of your experiences are so holy that you can't let yourself be corrected hence your need to assume there are no good points that I brought up.
Your reply implies you read my message, yet you shovel away my points. This means that you are blinded with your self-righteousness
@PlasticVille You saying that suicidal people are inherently selfish is idiotic and you should be ashamed. I'll leave this conversation now though because you probably need to get back to being a self-righteous loser and I need to get back to being better than you have ever aspired to be.
I cannot live life further in the way that I used to do.
After I started thinking about the world, my entire life changed. One goal in life left..
That goal weighs very heavy on me, and it is ABOUT other people's happiness.
In my case, suicide is a selfish action. All it would do free me from a problem inflicted upon myself at the expense of everyone else. But, I cannot do that even if the feeling is strong enough.
You may want to think about the effects of your video...
~Jkun~
Jkun 1 week ago
...personal happiness?" Even if you totally screwed up going on that one at least you'd be happy.
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
But ultimately the one question you should ask yourself is whether or not the thoughts or feelings are functionally necessary which mostly but not entirely breaks down to "is it good for my...
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
...position in society. A person can have 10 kids but if they all die of malnutrition that person has failed in evolutionary terms.
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
A lot of reasons people have for their emotions are made up to try to explain them when really all emotions roots back to evolution and natural selection in some way. If a person feels bad it probably is not for the reasons they are imagining, and what they should do is go out and build opportunities for success. This isn't to say we should all go out and start having lots of babies. Long-term(across many generations) reproductive success requires the attainment of a stable, comfortable...
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
...self-interests for it to make you feel bad.
There's a few that are in self-interest like the fear that hooks your feet to the sidewalk when you hear a car wizzing by. But most "bad feelings" are completely unnecessary. A good question to ask yourself is whether your emotions help you within your evolutionary context, since that's the meaning of life to survive and to propagate DNA. I'm not against childlessness as childless couples can promote natural selection through helping their kin.
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
...would've hurt my happiness.
Anorexia shows physical chemistry, yet it is disproportionately higher in the U.S. In the U.S. there are overblown standards of beauty for women. Our brain is made of neurons which transfer chemicals and energy at high speeds. The greatest influence on a person's brain chemistry is their social environment and how they choose to interact with and perceive it.
Think of all the things we're taught should make us feel bad, ask yourself whether it serves your own...
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
@MegaJoyful123
...have to put emotional stock in the concept of "failure".
Why should I or anybody else care about failure? What good does that do? If I choose not to care about failure and I succeed then I am successful and happy. If I choose not to care and I fail then I've failed but the important thing is that I'm happy. If I choose to care and fail anyways I've wasted my time on unpleasant emotions. If I care and then succeed then it's an empty success because worrying about failure...
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
@MegaJoyful123
What if in some cases people don't do as I suggested in my other comments or what is suggested in these videos because when they talk about their problems people are too afraid to make these suggestions out of sensitivity?
What if there are people who could've been helped with just a little advice who instead go through an extreme amount of therapy because people are too afraid to try these simple methods first?
It might just not have occured to a person that they don't actually..
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
Unless you have personally experienced a mental illness, you can fuck off. You have no idea.
leilaniandpuppies 2 weeks ago
@leilaniandpuppies Ha!! Thanks for the laugh
PlasticVille 2 weeks ago
@PlasticVille i wasn't meaning you.. lol i was meaning negative comments! this video is viral on tumblr, i'm totally agreeing with you!!
leilaniandpuppies 2 weeks ago
@leilaniandpuppies LOL. I wasn't sure when I read it - which was part of my laughter. Thanks!
PlasticVille 2 weeks ago
Hello, my name is Lynsay and I just wanted to tell you how much of an inspiration you are to me. I discovered this video when I was in a depressive state and it really brought my moods up. I watched it a few more times since, & I really love your message. Thank you, Andy Grant. You are an incredible person. c:
gumdroptea 2 weeks ago
@gumdroptea YOU are an incredible person, Lynsay. I'm glad the video helped you. That is why I do them. - Andy
PlasticVille 2 weeks ago
This video is awesome. I love the message and I want you to know it's helped me. Thankyou :)
kwikivid 3 months ago
@kwikivid So glad that this helped you. That is why I made it. - Andy
PlasticVille 3 months ago
Sorry, the word "intense" is out of place.
MegaJoyful123 5 months ago
I think you should make a clear disclaimer in the beginning of all your videos that you're only sharing what helped (you), and that you're not trying to suggest that everyone can just positive think their way out of suicidal thoughts. That sometimes it requires psycho therapy and sometimes it requires medication. intenseto deal with issues from the past that led to the manner of thinking, and to reprogram that thinking. Your messages come across as quick fixes. Just do this" type of thing.
MegaJoyful123 5 months ago
Unless you've ever experienced clinical depression, schizophrenia or bi-polar, for example, you couldn't possibly understand how your messages can actually cause people who are, to feel even more worthless and more suicidal. Reason; they can't just snap out of it by positive thinking. So, people like you suggesting that's what it takes is like telling those people that they're failures, (which they already feel and is why they're suicidal), because they can't do it without medical help..
MegaJoyful123 5 months ago
@MegaJoyful123 Everything I say and do is based on my own personal experiences. Years of medical help didn't help me. I'm sharing what has worked for me. That is all I can do.
PlasticVille 5 months ago
@MegaJoyful123
"Failures" is a social label. Why do people put any emotional stock in it, what influences made that word an important one? I personally do not care what those words mean. They could decide instead that they WERE(past tense) failures rather than are and decide they are turning over a completely new leaf and that because it would hurt themselves if they were to dwell on the past that they should forgive themselves entirely and just move on.
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@sicktoaster If you had read for comprehension you'd get that "failure" is a word people who are suicidal often think and feel about themselves, and I know that first-hand. "Turning over a completely new leaf" is something people who don't have chemical imbalances can do. I was speaking about those who have physiological imbalances, (be it in the brain, the thyroid, any female hormone imbalance etc.) and that to suggest Andy's or your ideas would work for them is irresponsible.
MegaJoyful123 1 month ago
@MegaJoyful123
To just get up and walk your brain has to send a chemical signal to your legs.
Therefore, all psychological difference(not necessarily disorder, but any difference) can be put into physical terms,
and yet this also means we have control over the physics of our own brains. It is tricky, because we can't know moment-to-moment what our brain chemistry is and even if we did you'd have to have at least some understanding of neuroscience to piece it together in a helpful way...
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@MegaJoyful123
...However, it does mean that things like positive thinking have chemical effects. Every single thought you have has chemical effects. You don't necessarily need drugs to change brain chemistry.
I once had very bad psychological problems, but through self-psychoanalysis I can roughly put together how to "operate" my brain via thought. Granted this is mostly done through the medium of abstractions, and I'm still just learning about neurology, and it is a process that can not be
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@MegaJoyful123
rushed. I'm long away from being able to put thoughts and chemical signals together scientifically, but it is an aspiration of mine.
So, while you're right that telling people this positive thinking stuff won't help everybody, it is not impossible it could help someone who is far gone. Psychological difficulty is not linear. A person could appear severely gone and recover quickly from what would appear to be too simple. Similarly, a person who seems completely sane could...
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@MegaJoyful123
...from some trigger that nobody would have ever expected would've been important have a total nervous breakdown.
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@MegaJoyful123
One thing I learned is that an understanding of neuroanatomy is not enough.
You need to pay attention to the full anatomy. The entire body is an interactive system. What happens in one place affects the rest. Psychology should expand its understanding by examining how physical issues outside the brain correlate with psychological problems, as well as studying how various patterns of external stimuli and internal thought processes have physical effects.
sicktoaster 1 month ago
You speak of suicide as though it's something everyone can just positive think their way out of thinking depressive thoughts, and you call those thoughts "ignorance" and a "lack of seeing another way". You are aware, are you not, that many suicides are caused by mental illness such as clinical depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar etc.? I think your videos on suicide are irresponsible and flippant, because your views are based solely on your own experiences, and not on being educated about it.
MegaJoyful123 5 months ago
@MegaJoyful123
You are a physical reductionist.
Physical reductionism is vulgar, it reduces humans to objects.
Just to type what you typed required your brain to send lots of chemical signals.
Therefore, every action we choose to take has effects down the line on our brain chemistry.
Acting like physical structures means it's completely fixed that way and can not be changed is the sort of physical reductionist ideological clap trap that leads people to feel so helpless in the first place.
sicktoaster 1 month ago
@sicktoaster You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. You think too much and do it without any knowledge of what it is you're thinking about, then post an opinion from that. When someone is so deep in despair and there's a physical cause for it, positive thinking isn't going to help them because they either couldn't get there to positive think even if they tried or they couldn't stay there if they tried. To suggest that's all it takes is as I said before, irresponsible.
MegaJoyful123 1 month ago
@sicktoaster I'm suggesting people go to therapy, use self-help books etc. first and re-program their brain to think in the positive, break old patterns. After having done that if they still can't positive think their way out of deep depression, then there may well be a physical cause. I speak from experience and is why I know that for someone to hear just what Andy says and to just try that, if it doesn't help them, then what? Makes them feel worse if they can't do it.
MegaJoyful123 1 month ago
Someone linked me this video because of how hilariously poor your points were, I'm not personally suicidal but I can see how terrible your arguments are. In fact if it weren't for the 500 character limit I would inform you right now how bad it is. Maybe I'll post is somewhere else where you'll see it.
Reiken37 6 months ago
@Reiken37 Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. I'm glad you aren't suicidal and I enoyed the rant you sent to me. In fact, I'd like to post it to my blog unless you have any objections to that.
PlasticVille 6 months ago
@PlasticVille Okay now I know you made this video for the sole purpose of tricking people into thinking that you were serious. If you had read my "rant" then you'd realize that I went through point by point why this video is full of various fallacies. Your response doesn't correlate at all with what your next logical course of action should be.
Reiken37 6 months ago
@Reiken37 The video is completely serious. It is based on my experiences and opinions, hence no fallacies I felt the need to debate you on. I'm curious, what did you see as my next logical course of action?
PlasticVille 6 months ago
@PlasticVille If you sincerely believe the ideas that you bring up in this video, then you should feel obligated to defend them. Did you ever consider the possibility that you're wrong? Or is it that your first interpretation of your experiences are so holy that you can't let yourself be corrected hence your need to assume there are no good points that I brought up.
Your reply implies you read my message, yet you shovel away my points. This means that you are blinded with your self-righteousness
Reiken37 5 months ago
@Reiken37 LOL. I feel no obligation to defend anything. Sounds like quite a painful way to go thru life.
PlasticVille 5 months ago
@PlasticVille You saying that suicidal people are inherently selfish is idiotic and you should be ashamed. I'll leave this conversation now though because you probably need to get back to being a self-righteous loser and I need to get back to being better than you have ever aspired to be.
Reiken37 5 months ago
@Reiken37
1. Why should anyone feel obligated unless the feeling is a means towards an end the person desires?
2. Even if he's wrong what happens to him, because of it? Absolutely nothing.
sicktoaster 2 weeks ago
Thanks Andy, I just viewed your video on being selfish. I saw the JOY! I felt the LOVE! Thanks. Brenda of Enwaken, from Portland
esbballstar 9 months ago
@esbballstar Thank you, Brenda. It means a lot.
PlasticVille 9 months ago