BUSH TORTURE POLICY: John Yoo and David Addington @ Congress

[DarkRequiem]

Whether or not you agree with the use of torture, you have to realize the court room tactics the witnesses were playing. It shows they were are lawyers. You gotta give a hand to Conyers for really fighting to squeeze answers out of them.

[minsookim1021]

@thatswhatisaidyeah WHOA. no need to be racist toward koreans. this dude does NOT represent his ethnicity. that said, he is entitled to his own opinions. i'm not saying his view is correct or justifiable in any way.

[thatswhatisaidyeah]

Fuck Yoo! Anybody who would cut up a German Shepard and put it on a fuckin hotdog bun, would surely have no problems torturing a person. Yoo represents the nasty ass mystery meat, that is in this American melting pot!!!

[rickyq61]

@thatswhatisaidyeah  dude, i laughted my ass off, u win greastest answer ever!!!!!

[ken1334]

@thatswhatisaidyeah You sound like you were raised by wolves. I've heard a more coherent sentiment from a retarded bird. You're children are probably already physically disabled because of the sheer momentum contained by your raw, glowing retardation. 

[thatswhatisaidyeah]

@ken1334 Well, at least some people thought it was funny. And that Yoo is a P.O.S. butthole...

[4C7X]

this is historical fact and on the record why would anyone dislike

[Z3rd4]

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Thumbs up for the solitary imprisonment of GW Bush, John Yoo, Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and their whole gang

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[harleykman]

@Z3rd4 We should lso imprison Obama, Biden, Hillary, and so on

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For the last 11 years we've been run by war criminals

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[athar077]

whats with the chinese and their obsession with torture

[ylchiang]

@athar077 He's Korean.

[hapidjus69]

Who's the babe at 30:24? Is she some sort of intern?

[harleykman]

@hapidjus69 Most of them are "pages". You're looking at an underage non-adult from high school and calling her "babe"

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[hapidjus69]

@harleykman Thanks for the unsolicited info about her age. I don't remember asking if she was from high school. That's irrelevant now, since we're around the same age

[hapidjus69]

SHUTUP! John Yoo is a true American Patriot!

[Rasputin940]

MrJwil52: You MUST be joking. Torture has been perpetrated on our soldiers and soldiers from almost every country on the planet. When our soldiers are waterboarded we call it torture and cry up to heaven like saints offended by some evil forces, but when WE use waterboarding, then we call it "enhanced technique" interrogation. THEY do it because they are evil, WE do ti because we have a higher purpose. What utter crap! You are uninformed, and worst of all, don't desire to be informed.

[MrJwil52]

@Rasputin940 look as a person who has gone through the same interrogation techniques like waterboarding as the terrorist, I know whats its like and know how it feels and its not that bad and ive been in special forces for two years now and I know more of whats going on than you will ever know, and yes we do cry up to heaven like saints when our guys are tortured and we do this because our guys get much worse than waterboarding

[lektrum]

@MrJwil52 "it's not that bad".Well,it's pretty obvious you're either full of shit,or you got a nice treatment. The way waterboarding is publicized you'd think it's something new the CIA came up with. Fact is the same technique has been in use for well over 1500 years. Why? Because it is so FUCKING EFFECTIVE. So yeah, you be all "not so bad"..

[Rasputin940]

RIGFATONY019: You are as ignorant as you are deranged. Typical response from a right wing nut or Tea Party nut case: communism is the favorite escape goat for all your ignorant rants and hateful speech. Learn something and inform yourself before spewing such garbage, this is the United States, not Vietnam fifty years ago, and if you want to torture, and I think you like it, go someplace else. I bet you loved to torture pets when you were a kid, in other words: you are a criminal, like Bush.

[MrJwil52]

@Rasputin940 the reason why we torture our enemy is because we torture our own men in uniform so that they will be ready for anything if they are ever captured by the enemy.

[banditBoy943777]

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are war criminals who need to be executed, addington and yoo need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. ANY other nation state that acted in the same manner as the US did in relation to Iraq would have experienced a shit storm...All of these testimonies are intellectual garbage!

[lektrum]

Why did Conyers stop asking his line of questions for Yoo? It's not whether a president would "feel it necessary" to order this or that, but rather if he or she COULD order it. It seems the "unitary theory" grants the US president far more power than what the Americans revolted against when it came to the powers of the British regent (which was a tax issue).

[sgentlemanjack112]

what a fucking joke.. arrest this man.

[zwedanez]

is this a fucking joke!! is evert fucker high????? SPEKUP IDIOTS

[rigatony019]

also watch john yoo on the daily show with hindsight and no congressional highhorse bullies in his face. he is quite literally a mental giant relative to the people.

[MaxTallon]

@rigatony019 : he is definitely one of the enlightened ones; truly illuminated.

[rigatony019]

@MaxTallon when it comes to constitutional law he is indeed quite savvy. Its apparent he has a much stronger grasp of the topic than congress sadly.

[rigatony019]

"we normally provide people are going to be tried criminally with council" says that goddamn communist conyers? such a limited knowledge of history... roosevelt (the socialist democrat) was the person to coin the term "enemy combatant" for the very purpose of not giving these monsters the right to an attorney. when you give them that right they can ask to see every bit of evidence against them which gives the rest of the scumbags an upperhand of intelligence.

[rigatony019]

what a bunch of sissys we have these days. we need to torture the shit out of these prisoners. no crime has been comitted by torturing them. this is what they want. the terrorists know that american soldiers hands are tied by our pussy government and they are working the system perfectly. its the same reason we cant shoot at terrorists if they are in, on or even near a mosque. where have our balls gone?

[foxchool]

@rigatony019 so what if they´re innocent?

[rigatony019]

@foxchool that happens FAR more frequently in the civilian judicial system.

[ericclaptonismygod31]

Put the Congree in jail!

[MsDellastreet]

Send the terrorists to this lil asian faggot's house for---you know what!!!

Al Quaida! Here is a feww gay target!!

What a faggot - waterboard him

[itsacrises]

naturally in trouble all humans come together just like all other species in the world , majority of the humans in the world are simple minded God loving, very few amount of people commit to doing evil and co siding with the devil, Those few indirectly use mindless ways of implementing the good. Good will always overcome Evil.

[apetrowsky1]

Take out the elite and there won't be anymore terrorist attacks.

[BeNNzuFG]

I love Conyerns sarcasm on the right to legal council. As for waterboarding: there is NO doubt, that waterboarding constitutes torture in the legal sense. Just one example: see the official U.N. Report of the Torture Comittee; U.N. Doc. A 61 44 (2006), page 71.

[MarcNeilsen]

I don't understand all of this ire against Yoo, Bybee, and Addington. It's getting absolutely ridiculous.

Honestly, Yoo's memos are legally sound and historically conducive to presidential powers in past administrations like Lincoln's and FDR's. Yoo simply reaffirms presidential powers, those of prerogative and commander-in-chief... I don't see how that is legally punishable.

When you decry "torture," which definition are you using, and what protections are you referring to?

[brothermikefan]

I would have to refer you to the Geneva Conventions (that we signed) in order to give you a definition of torture.

[MarcNeilsen]

But isn't the President of the United States granted the power and authority (by the Constitution) to decide foreign policy and interpret treaties? Not to mention, the Geneva Convention was convened in order to decide terms of conventional warfare. These terrorists are not the same as uniformed personnel. After all, didn't the US Sup. Court decide that German saboteurs during WWII weren't protected by Geneva for the exact same reasons Yoo brings up for terrorists? FDR right but Bush/Yoo wrong?

[twk373]

You're claiming that Islamic terrorists aren't protected by the Geneva convention?

[MarcNeilsen]

Where do the Geneva conventions protect terrorists? The Geneva conventions specifically made the distinction between civilians, soldiers, and then, "unlawful combatants," as demonstrated by the Supreme Court case, Ex Parte Quirin. Unlawful combatants aren't protected, nor should they be. Finally, even if the Geneva conventions specifically protected terrorists, the President would still have the right to interpret an international treaty anyway.

[twk373]

I wish the lefties could distinguish between hating Bush and hating torture. You know, like the rest of us.

[brothermikefan]

How about hating those who condone torture? (Bush, Cheney, Yoo, et al)

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

Seem why'd you have to go and add that parenthetical statement? Watch Yoo's interview on the Daily Show. You might learn something.

[brothermikefan]

To me, a lawyer coming to a conclusion based on unclear legal language (his own assertion) regarding torture without consulting with Congress (the ones who wrote the language) that the president can do whatever he wants INCLUDING torture amounts to condoning it. Not to mention all of the public statements he's made in favor of waterboarding. Look up waterboarding on Wikipedia and tell me it isn't torture.

And I can't find the daily show clip you're talking about.

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

Where did anyone conclude that that President can do whatever he wants to do?

I wonder, do you think that stateless Islamic soldiers should be treated like civilian criminals?

The issue is pretty simple. Given 1) that we all agree torture is immoral and 2) that stateless Islamic "soldiers" are waging a guerilla war against us, how do you suggest we proceed when we capture them?

[brothermikefan]

John Yoo is making the assertion that the president can do whatever he wants in a time of war. BUT there are certain human rights that have been internationally agreed upon and that we have signed treaties to uphold. One way to answer your question would be to ask how you would want OUR soldiers to be treated if captured. There are rules about living conditions, freedom from bodily harm, and upholding human dignity. Whether they're stateless or not. They're human rights. See: Geneva Conventions.

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

You missed the point about statelessness. Had the Iranian air force flew a plane into the World Trade Centers, we would have been at war with Iran. That's easy. However, we were attacked by stateless Islamic "radicals," not any particular nation. So we're in a gray zone right off the bat. Worse, there's no armies to attack or territory to capture, and all of the enemy's operations consist of sending non-uniformed suicide soldiers to wage clandestine warfare.

[crystalmaiden1122]

No I didn't miss the point about statelessness. I think you missed the point about human rights. (keyword being human.) There are definitive rules regarding soldiers. There are also difinitive rules regarding guerillas (or enemy combatants; fighters that don't wear uniforms.) But all of those rules are superceeded by the basic human rights that I mentioned: rules regarding living conditions, freedom from bodily harm, and the preservation of human dignity. Torture, by the way, is ALWAYS illegal.

[brothermikefan]

Sorry. I was signed in under my daughter's account.

[brothermikefan]

crystalmaiden1122 = brothermikefan

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

When it comes to social issues, liberals whine constantly about how our antiquated moral constructs need to evolve. So it's hard to take them seriously when they claim the reverse for warfare. Like I said, nobody wants to torture anyone. However, Islam is a new kind of threat, and we need to evolve if we're going to survive it.

And Yoo is not, in fact, making that assertion. Sorry!

[crystalmaiden1122]

Employing torture would be like de-evolving back to the middle ages. Why do you think the third world still does it? They're the ones that need to evolve. There's no evidence that torture brings about better intelligence. In fact there are arguments to the contrary. Some contend that prisoners will say anything just to stop the pain.

[twk373]

Yawn. Pay attention, please. No one is advocating that we torture anyone.

Some of us just don't think it's necessary to extend to stateless suicidal Muslims the same civil protections that we extend to citizens or enemy soldiers.

But, as I said, it's difficult to take liberals seriously when they refuse to take any common-sense preventive measures against Muslims, or even recognize them to be a threat.

[brothermikefan]

The same civil protections as citizens or enemy soldiers? What else should we do? Public lynchings? Stoning?

Timothy McVeigh got the death penalty. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will probably get the death penalty. Richard Reid is serving a life sentance with no parole. The xmas guy will probably serve a life sentance.

Most of the prisoners in Gitmo were taken from their homes and haven't even been charged with anything after all these years. What kind of society does that?

[brothermikefan]

I believe criminals should be brought to justice. I also believe that the reason why so many detainees are sitting there with no charges made against them is that we just have no damn evidence against them. The problem now is that when we let them go they will most likely become terrorists. When we lose our credibility it comes back to haunt us in spades. Each one of those detainees has a father, mother, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, neice, nephew, and cousin that have just become our enemies.

[twk373]

Okay, I finally understand where you're coming from. This is very illuminating. Look, this is not about bringing criminals to justice. This is about fighting a war against stateless muslim radicals, and punishing *war* criminals.

The Muslims who blew up the WTC were war criminals. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is a war criminal. War criminals are tried in military tribunals, not civilian courts.

[twk373]

Similarly, the Gitmo detainees are prisoners of war. You don't "charge" prisoners of war. You don't "bring them to justice." You hold them in limbo until the war is over.

[twk373]

@crystalmaiden1122

The Fort Hood massacre is a great example. Here we have an obviously unbalanced Muslim radical, yet the military intentionally ignored him. How many more American lives will liberals sacrifice on the altar of diversity?

[twk373]

@crystalmaiden1122

How could I miss this? It's so obvious. Allowing Muslims to transplant themselves into the West *is* de-evolving our society back to the middle ages. Islamic mistreatment of women and homosexuals, for example, is well documented. But liberals, the erstwhile champions of those two underprivileged groups, will happily throw them under the bus for the sake of "diversity."

[brothermikefan]

Now you're telling me you're agianst diversity? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. How can you prevent people from different countries from living here? That's pretty much what this country is all about. You can't even argue that. Are you suggesting a ban on all Muslims in this country? Weird.

I still can't believe people think this war is about terror and not oil. We've been bombing Iraq for decades in preparation to take them over. Of course there are terrorists. Go figure.

[brothermikefan]

There are tons of documentaries that illustrate that the war on terror is double speak for war for oil but there's a great one on Google Video that's narrated by Ed Asner called "Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror."

I'd think with the sheer number of documentaries out there that argue in favor of the oil war case compared to any out there that deny it there would be much more outrage in this country. It's just so obvious. Terrorism is just a convenient means for distraction and propoganda.

[brothermikefan]

Seriously. If you can find me a documentary that proves that the war in Iraq isn't about oil then I'll eat my own head. That's how impossible that would be.

[twk373]

Asking someone to prove a negative is good indicator that you're not much for logic.

Anyway, what makes you think I support the war in Iraq? Or Afghanistan, for that matter? (Or Bush, for that matter?)

I support protecting our own borders and keeping dangerous Muslims in the Middle East, where they belong. I don't support invasions or nation building. If we feel the need to blow them up, do it from the sky, not the ground.

[brothermikefan]

Okay, don't prove it's not about oil; prove it's about terrorism. How's that? I took logic in college my friend.

[twk373]

It's not about terrorism, it's about "radical" Islam.

Proof? Easy. Stateless muslims flew planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.

However, I have no idea what the war in Iraq is about. Or the war in Afghanistan. Neither of those countries attacked us. Muslims did.

[brothermikefan]

If it's a war for oil why can't they just tell us it's a war for oil? Why do they have to make people like you demonize a whole sector of humanity based on the actions of specific groups and individuals who are pissed off at us for wrecking their country? You should see what it's like over there. Watch the film.

[twk373]

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Islamic aggression isn't limited to the US. Look at what Muslims have been doing to our friends over in Europe.

Anyway, I'm not claiming that all Muslims are terrorists. It's pretty clear, however, that they do want to supplant and replace our way of life.

The point is simple. There are a lot of Muslims who hate us. Muslims who don't hate us ought to appreciate that and understand when we subject to them to higher levels of scrutiny.

[twk373]

I'm against insanity. The liberal lust for diversity causes them to do stupid things, like ignore obviously dangerous Muslims. Or refuse to have special screenings for Muslims at airports. Anyway, America is a melting pot. Major Hassan didn't melt very well.

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

Just google "daily show john yoo."

[beijingpeople]

At least you can take this to court in America.

In China, the Communist Party IS the LAW!

Take that you evil commies.

[brothermikefan]

You're absolutely right. So we should all just go ahead and condone torture 'cuz other countries don't have a choice in the matter. We wouldn't want to oppose it 'cuz that would just show how evil we are.

[brothermikefan]

Take that you anti-communist communist.

[twk373]

The reason that liberals/progressives have difficulty being taken seriously is that they also oppose common sense measures like profiling/screening Muslims at airports, while at the same time arguing that foreign terrorists should be tried in civilian courts.

[brothermikefan]

Did we start picking and choosing only twenty-something white guys to harrass after Timothy McVeigh carried out the largest terrorist attack on our soil prior to 911? No. Everyone gets screened equally when entering federal buildings. And liberals aren't the ones that set the rules for trying terrorists in civilian courts. They were set in the Bush Admin. R. Reid the Shoe Bomber was tried here. Giuliani praised it at the time. Now people think Obama's treating the X-mas guy different. He's not.

[brothermikefan]

Same thing with the Miranda rights. Bush's appointed judges set the rules for them. They're the same rules that are being used for the xmas guy right now. There's no difference except for who the president is apparently. Don't let any conservative try to muster up your emotions. They think they can fool you with fake patriotism. It's just politics.

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

I keep forgetting that liberals think Bush isn't a liberal.

[twk373]

@brothermikefan

Oh, please. Try to be realistic. There are veritable armies of Muslims chanting "death to the Great Satan." You can hardly blink without reading about some imam exhorting his followers to attack the West. The simple fact is that the overwhelming majority of terrorists are young Muslim men. That's just tough luck for all the young Muslim men who aren't terrorists. Anyway, didn't you know that serial killers are profiled as white men?

[Chloe3139]

By law, our Constitution and our Forefathers Bush and everyone in his administration as well as affiliated with any one of them should all be brought to justice more so than if any one of us would break a law. Our Forefathers would have been swift, just and righteous in their pursuit of justice within the ranks. Do what is right, just and prudent, bring them all to justice!!! An eye for an eye, be an American Patriot and uphold our Constitution, our Bill of Rights & everything that we hold dear!

[candiceevans1]

Amen,,,we the people need to prosocute the treason and we will GOD willing. The nazi party in America will pay and the neo-con artists will also be incarcerated or possibly executed depending on "interpretation" of law ,,,what an irony that would be.

[Re5Publica]

You're hysterical, and over what? The waterboarding of Khalid Sheik Mohammed? The man who boasts of plotting 9\11, and who beheaded Daniel Pearl? Sorry if I find myself uninclined to demonize and call for the lynching of the Bush administration over that.

[phdecora]

i can't get the progress bar to work.. it keeps starting over at the beginning of the video.

[GoreyFantod]

Sometimes if you pause the video then do something else for a while, it will buffer the video into your computer's memory. This is a long video, so it will probably take a while to buffer, depending on the speed of your internet connection.

Pause the video (leave your web browser open), then check it 5-10 minutes later. If the progress bar has turned pale red, then the video has buffered.

[bbbbmer]

'reasonable people can differ about these questions'.... WHAT??? Torture is TORTURE!!! This apologist, John Yoo, should be tried and convicted for his warped legal interpretations sought by the Bush/Cheney administration that didn't prevent ANYTHING!!! John Yoo is a god damn LIAR!!!

[phdecora]

writing warped legal interpretations is not a crime. there might be some laws he did violate, but you'd have to figure out what they were first. we dont arrest people without charging the with a specific crime.. that whole habeas corpus thing and those pesky liberals who want due process...

[bbbbmer]

due process is one thing. derelection of duty is quite another, and it is gross negligence and malpractice to provide legal advice that runs anathema to a reasonable community standard. it becomes illegal to rationalize an opinion based on a desired outcome.

[bbbbmer]

...especially when the desired outcome is illegal... btw, war crimes, including torture, are illegal...

[phdecora]

gross negligence, in writing legal advice? how many years do you get for that? legal malpractice? do any of them care about those charges?

you have to find something better. maybe they can use RICO or other conspiracy laws.

but honestly, think about it. these are some of the smartest lawyers in the country... they probably covered their butts and knew what they were doing, and how to avoid getting sued over it.

[bbbbmer]

conspiracy, including providing a legal rationale for a crime, especially a war crime, is a crime in itself. yes, RICO may be applicable. honey, they were NOT by any means 'the smartest lawyers in the country' -- they weren't even the smartest lawyers in the room -- especially when considering that one can drive a mack truck through their legal analysis... their butts are not covered, and if we don't investigate and prosecute, other nations will -- and they will win...

[phillipmarch22]

You asked: Gross negligence, in writing legal advice? how many years do you get for that? The least Yoo should get is dis-barred!

[peaceispatriotic7]

The very least Yoo should get is dis-barred. That is if and when it comes out that bush/cheney told him and others to write an opinion that supports torture. It is one thing to write an opinion, it is quite another to write it because you were told to by a murderer like bush. (Meaning the 4,500 of our soldiers in Iraq and the 88,000 innocent Iraqi civilians).

[Re5Publica]

Way to absolve the real murderers (meaning the thugs and murderers who killed U.S. troops, and bombed Iraqi markets, polling stations, mosques and executed civilians). This is such a great time to be a terrorist, because if you deliberately scorch some four year-old and her family in a Baghdad market, people everywhere will blame your enemy Bush. I have to give America's enemies credit, they are certainly winning the propaganda front, they committ atrocities and everyone blames their enemies.

[peaceispatriotic7]

Do you think that a criminal should have due process? Or do you think if a person is suspected of a crime should just be shot in the town square?

[Re5Publica]

If that criminal were a civilian, and a citizen of the United States then due process is his right. If that person were part of an international terrorist group who declared war on the United States and states its their goal to mass murder americans, and destroy american landmarks and civil buildings then they should more appropriately be lined up and shot in accordance with the Geneva conventions which do not consider someone I just described as a "protected person", legally speaking.

[anikinippon]

@bbbbmer He's not an "apologist" it's just that the definition of "torture" is not the same as "cruel and unusual punishment" and there is nothing illegal about "torture".

[roscogre]

"cocky" ?? asking for a lawyer before speaking is "cocky"?

KSM admitted to dozens of impossoble ridiculous crimes under extreme torture.

[jfallas]

Conyers is creepy. Where does he get those scenarios?

[phdecora]

the book 'the dark side' and other media reports (isikoff article about ali soufman for example), which cite various anonymous sources who worked for the FBI and various intelligence agencies. ie, the 'buried alive' story.

[starlitephi]

Professor of Law at Boalt Hall School of Law in Berkeley, California, (but a lawyer with the Pennsylvania bar from which he should be debarred and would be if enough people demanded it!)

[heydrich10]

All the power that was granted unchallenged to this administration (patriot act, wire taping and so on) will be in the hand of a liberal government. I cannot wait to see you belly acing you idiots flag waving hypocrites. The useless tools giving to Bush,Will be very functional on us now.

[1x93cm]

war is a crime against peace

[wasilaify]

@1x93cm

Sometimes you need war to maintain peace.

[1x93cm]

@wasilaify sometimes up is down too, but only in the twilight zone

[wasilaify]

@1x93cm Are you saying slaughtering maiming raping warlords should be left alone for the sake of peace?

[1x93cm]

@wasilaify who appointed the US savior of the world?

maybe if their own ppl had their own revolt or revolution they could form their own govt etc. etc.

seems most every other country did it

how is it US interest to interfere in tribal problems on the other side of the world with a people and a culture that we know nothing about and then tell them what to do with thier lives-

what if china decided since it makes all our cheap crap that its going to dictate US social policy?

[MrJwil52]

@1x93cm without war we not have peace, without war we would not be a great nation, if we didnt go to war you would be speaking Geman, so next time you talk down against war just remember it was war that gave you the freedom to speak against war.

[1x93cm]

@MrJwil52 anybody that advocates war go sign up for iraq and afghanistan

send yourself- send your kids- send your money

other than that shut up if you're not going to put YOUR life on the line

don't advocate for other people to send their children, their hard earned money, and thier lives to die for something YOU want

[MrJwil52]

@1x93cm I have signed up to go and I am heading over to Afghanistan in 3 months. I am just asking you to realize what war has done for you, as horrible as it may be it is necessity for our society.

[1x93cm]

@MrJwil52 great- however this "was" was not even legally justifiable-if a bunch of terrorists attacked us on 9/11 they were NON STATE ACTORS

which means you can't declare war on a state for what non state actors do- The us already has a means to deal with such problems- its called Letters of Mark and reprisal

i wish you well over there but learn why you are fighting- srsly look past what all the political mumbojumbo says- It takes the "greatest military in the world 10 YEARS to capture 1 man?

[mikedraper1000]

@MrJwil52 How is it necessary for society. Most Afghans couldnt find the US on a map and wouldnt have the funds to travel out of their country. What has war done for anyone? Well its given the politicians free reign to cut liberties. The oil companies and other big organisations have profited to the extreme (as have politicians). So what you're saying is you're fighting for oil execs and the haliburtons of this world. No need to risk your life for college funds and bonuses for the oil executives

[HottieJ666]

@MrJwil52 Begging the question - and circular

[GreenerGrassier]

Does anyone know who the monkey whispering into Yoo's ear is starting at 1:08?

[GreenerGrassier]

Anyone know who the monkey whispering into Yoo's ear is?

[GurnSi]

This vid is BLA BLA BLA. The USA is already the SPITTOON of the world, the ANUS, the PARIAH. The USA as the upholder of human rights? Hahahahahahaaaaa! ———--—-/´¯'|) ———--—-|—-| ———--—-|—-| ———--—-|—-| ————---|—-| ———--/´¯/' .'/´¯`·_ ———-/'/--/—-/—--/¨¯\ ——--('(———- ¯~/'--') ———\ - FUCK OFF - ) ———-\ - ILLEGAL - - / ————\ INVADERS ( ————-\—----——--)

[jeounghh87]

you're one to talk living in the vatican city

[djzacmaniac]

They have been letting illegals into the UK as well. It is part of the plan to move to a North American Union, and eventually a Global Union. They want to wash away our cultural identity, as well as that of the immigrants. I don't hate immigrants, I hate the reasons for not making them come to America legally. I don't really care about poor people coming here under the radar to work, but that isn't all that is happening. NO BORDERS = AMERO

[GurnSi]

USA = Number One? Part 7/12:

Healthcare: USA,S.Africa are only developed nations without healthcare for all; result: 18K extra USA deaths/yr (Rifkin p80 NYT 1/12/05)

IQ: < Japan,India,China,EU

Prisoners: USA 2+M, EU 0.6M despite 65% higher pop. (NM07)

20% aged 18-24 can't find USA on map (CNN 11/22/02)

Kids: 900K/yr children abused/neglected (USAToday 12/21/04)

Homes going hungry in 2003: USA 4%, EU incl. Hungary 0% (NYT 11/22/04)

Smoked: USA 74%, world's worst (WHO'08)

Rapes: 305% of EU (NM07)

[GurnSi]

USA = Number One? Part 9/12:

Police: Third-world type (USAToday 11/17/04)

Belief in Evolution: USA 39% (only Turkey lower among 33 developed nations) Europe 56-85% (Data360)

Atheism: USA 5%, Japan 66%, Scandinavia 78% (Zuckerman'05)

Religious service weekly or more: USA 44% (highest by far in developed world), Scandinavia 4% (WorldValues)

Imports/yr/head: USA $7K, EU $3K (CIA)

Values: 51% of kids in 1-parent homes (CNN 12/10/04)

Most UFO/abduction tales, only <5% of world pop. <7% of land area

[Kaybowser]

They should just put Yoo on trial. F this BS. this guy justified the right to torture.

Yet he still walks amung us teaching our kids.

[Mild816]

Does anyone know where i can find complete video of the second part, after the recess?

[UltraHouseMusic]

Yoo Da Man!!!!

[alchino23]

they always they to use terrorists to blame

but we know who the real terror comes from

[Mild816]

...and they DON'T watch C-Span

[thepomegranate]

CV, thanks for posting this vid. Do you have video from after the recess?

[renijohn012270]

The only people who need to be tortured and put in Guantanomo Bay, are those within the Bush Administration and the Republicans in Congress, who protect and support their crimes, lies and arrogance, that we have witnessed these past 8 years! If you think torture will give us solid- crediable-truthful information, then your just as stupid as Congress Franks and the republi-CON'S in Congress!

[inertia186]

About 40 minutes into the video, the ranking member, Congressman Franks said he thought it was a contradiction for Congress to be allowed to try to assassinate one specific terrorist, yet be restricted from waterboarding accused terrorists in custody. Franks is confused by something called The US Constitution, which explicitly grants Congress the power to authorize assassination, while nowhere does it authorize waterboarding or any other form of torture.

[blogegog]

Hey, I can't find the word 'assassination' in the Constitution. Are you sure it's explicitly there?

[inertia186]

Article I, Section 8, clause 11 of the US Constitution. The phrase, "letter of marque" is an official warrant or commission from a government authorizing the designated agent to search, seize, or destroy specified assets or personnel belonging to a foreign party which has committed some offense under the laws of nations against the assets or citizens of the issuing nation. It has been used, but not limited, to authorize private parties to raid and capture merchant shipping of an enemy nation.

[blogegog]

I don't see how that gives him the authority to assassinate - merely to take someone's stuff. But I'll take your word for it.

[inertia186]

Please refer to the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001.

[jarneyfs1]

I wonder what hope we have with such a question?

"...destroy specified assets or personnel belonging to a foreign party"

Can you read?

[DURound]

inertia186:The US Constitution, which explicitly grants Congress the power to authorize assassination, while nowhere does it authorize waterboarding or any other form of torture.

Incorrect. The US Constitution speaks about "the people" (citizens) being free from unreasonable search and seizure. In addition, the constitution prohibits extreme or unusual punishments to criminals.

However, it is silent on the matter of assassination. And it does not speak to actions taken against non-citizens.

[inertia186]

Wow, I certainly stand corrected, don't I? So where does the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 draw its authority then?

[DURound]

Inertia: Wow, I certainly stand corrected, don't I? So where does the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 draw its authority then?

Perhaps you stand corrected. You can be the judge of that. The Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 would draw its authority from Congress, which has the constitutional authority to issue such letters. This is a different issue than assassination or torture.

[inertia186]

The Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 would have authorized assassination of Bin Laden. Care to explain how the Constitution is silent on the matter when it specifically authorizes letters of marque?

[DURound]

Inertia: The Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 would have authorized assassination of Bin Laden.

Answer:According to Ron Paul the Letters of Marque would have authorized CAPTURE of Bin Laden. His comments never mention assassination.

[inertia186]

> According to Ron Paul the Letters of Marque

> would have authorized CAPTURE of Bin Laden.

I believe you are referring to the Air Piracy Reprisal and Capture Act of 2001.

[DURound]

Intertia: I believe you are referring to the Air Piracy Reprisal and Capture Act of 2001.

No. That act changed the definition of Piracy. The act I was referring to was called "Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001".

[DURound]

Inertia: Care to explain how the Constitution is silent on the matter when it specifically authorizes letters of marque?

What comment is required? The Constitution is completely and totally silent on the matter of assassination. This is obvious by inspection.

And Letters of Marque are not the same thing as authority to assassinate. I do not think a letter of Marque has ever been issued to "assassinate". Wage war.. perhaps, but assassinate.. I don't think so.

[GurnSi]

STFU, you ignorant asshole DURound.

You are the one smearing Iran for threatening Israel now, when:

* The "threat" is 7 yrs old

* The "threat" was not a threat, but an invitation to others

* The invitation was not issued by or on behalf of Iran, but by a politician who lost office 5 years before uttering it (and failed when he tried to regain office 4 years later).

YOU ARE AN IGNORANT, WARMONGERING, LYING P.O.S. When we get to power, we will find who you are. Bush built the internment camps...

[DURound]

Gurnsi gets all upset:STFU, you ignorant asshole DURound.

Uhh.. why don't you make me shut up?

[DURound]

Gurnsi reveals his extreme pathology: YOU ARE AN IGNORANT, WARMONGERING, LYING P.O.S. When we get to power, we will find who you are. Bush built the internment camps...

You will not have power. You are an extremely dysfunctional person and even most people who might think that the US is wrong and that Bush should be impeached will not side with you. Because you are clearly several bricks shy of a full load.