Ghost In The Shell 2 - Innocence (Making Of Android)

[deepersleeper]

Reminds me of the project " Russia 2045 "

[fortal1ty]

i think its time for me to watch the ghost in the shell movies again :P

[darkstarXSI]

our brain is as complex as a cpu and although we know what a cpu can do the potential is infinite, IMO a cyborg/android can see it's own nature like the one we see with our god, we are the architects of their universe therefore the definition an android/machine can't match a human being. Something we call god was the architect of our universe so we think there is nothing to match him/she/it, it would be the same ideology with the machine.

[TheBakaKitsune]

I Would work on android later :/

[pberrios0223]

i love this song, it takes me to a neat place.

[Retrowinter]

This song is so completely moving. And the whole movie is gold!

[PerfectDark13]

the secret is a reflection of the Major. at least thats what i see

[RegardsWND]

One of the greatest opening ever made

[coralin378]

gorgeous opening

[Catlicker101]

I GOT THE dvd and the special track says there is a "secret" to what is reflected in her eye at the end? Anyone figure it out yet? 5 stars!

[Andreazor]

I can see something in the right corner of her eye but I cant make out what it is. Tell!

[shaobell]

questo film è un capolavoro

[gdguyman]

does any have the actual movie in english?

[PrinnyKing3]

oh my god, i love this scene!

By the way, just in case anyone was wondering, the name of the song is "kugutsuuta ura mite chiru" Pretty sure the spelling is right, but google it just in case

I frikkin love this scene!

[konoko1984]

Name of this song is Pappetry song - Dying After Much Resentment.

[Fattyrat]

thanx i've been looking 4 the name of this song 4 half an hour now. XD

[BlackMagikz88]

this into music is very similar to the original Ghost in the shell version. But this one is way better you can really hear the vocals

[tropicat]

The music and vocals remind me of something from the movie Akira. Anyway, great clip, thanks for uploading it =].

[123go567]

Damn, potential.

[didoncon]

what is the name of this song? =D

[Lariekoekje]

Whew, this music is amazing. I can't believe I have the entire movie at home and still haven't watched it.

[avatrix369]

holy frekin anime that was awesome make another make another it wuz AWESOME!! on a scale of 1-5 i giv u a 5,000,000,000

[YouFoolWarrenIsDead]

Me too. And then some.

[zzack124]

hey thanks

[zzack124]

there is a song in ghost in the shell first episode in the second gig which comes at nearly the end when the girl shoots the terrorist through outside the window and it goes like "i can't be cool". whats the name of that song???????

[necro2607]

hey dude, there are two songs on the SAC OST 2, one called "I can't be cool" and one called "We can't be cool", so search for those. the OST with those songs comes with the Limited Edition of GitS SAC volume 1 DVD.

[necro2607]

shit I mean it's on the GitS SAC "2nd GiG" (2nd season) volume 1 DVD. :) Not first season!

[AkaBrahman]

we are only consciousness...all there is is consciousness. Perhaps with quantum computing we will be able to emulate-simulate and thus create conscious AI...(although I have my doubts...)

[akinkhoo]

there is differences in the hardware; what is biology and what is electronic, the list is endless. but the software is becoming increasing similar as machines processing power near ours.

still such technology will take more than a decade to mature, especially when people are unwilling to accept such ideas. if you don't believe you can swim, you will never learn if you can. =)

[akinkhoo]

it is not hard to see the brain is just a massive processor with a bios written in DNA. the only difference is the OS learns instead of install software.

we are already able to create AI that will pick up pattern without us telling it what a pattern would be, while not to the level of humans, it prove it theory that machine can think.

[Ravenslied]

let us appreciate what god has given us. belief or non belief, an imagination.

[drunknerd]

God and imagination could just be DNA's way of handling self awareness and knowing that we will die.

[IseeAcid]

Ottoman is right, they won't be able

to discuss on an high level,

have an opinion created by experience,

have taste or feeling for music that wasn't

already put into them.

They will never understand why we dance,

also they will never laugh in themselves over

a joke.

I can go on forever man

[PiccoloNamek]

Of course they will be able to do all of those things once they have reached a certain level of complexity.

[tharbk01]

yes after all, everything such as our emotions and intelligence is based in our brain.

[OttomanDrifter91]

youre wrong, humans are not machines.A machine is un able to imagine and think about anything.

We maybe need same things for operate (energy, command, reason etc.) but we are totally different.

Because we are containing a free mind.

[drunknerd]

So you may think.  Thousands of years of history shows we all do the same thing over and over again.

[drake5902]

What are you people talking about? We're already machines. Taken from Dictionary(dot)com -> A device consisting of fixed and moving parts that modifies mechanical energy and transmits it in a more useful form. Cast aside your silly little imaginary friends created by religion, and only the medium is different. The argument of whether or not machines will think is also idiotic. A submarine does not truly swim, but does that matter?

[Ringersan]

A maschine can be switched off and on again.

Have you even been switched revived?

[drunknerd]

Yes I had heart surgery.

[Ringersan]

how long have you been switched off? days? weeks? years?

[Cluey3]

If you read the books it all seems very possible. And scientists have replicated half a mouse's brain onto a computer chip. So maybe cyber-brains aren't that far off.

[Tlalok2]

....wow//... get real...... GITS is really cool... but don't be like it's possible or something...

[Cabbitchic]

You never know what could happen in the future...

[Brawls05]

Ok, I have tried bittorrent, all i'm getting is sponge bob when i plug Gits (long version) into the search engine.

[ironyinlife]

Buy it and support them.

[bistokidsfan]

As deleriousexile said humans are defined by who they are. Sure cells and data are similar, but a robot cannot be truly alive until it gains a soul.

[Brawls05]

Where can I download GITS 2 the movie?

[ArrowHead83]

BitTorrent, like anything else

[ArrowHead83]

aspect ratio is wrong

[anmiecrazy]

Making Of Android

[Demondarknessemperor]

what is the name of the song?

[mani101]

amazing intro....

[synaps555]

good video/sound quality, thx

[PsychoWolf14]

Do humans need Immortality? Who is to say if we will still be human if we achieve immortality?

Robots are no more immortal than we are, they do break, just as our bones do.

[Haf1983]

Well, if something in a robot breaks, you can exchange that part with a working one - this works with all parts of the robot, and you can backup the memory.

I would see robots are a bit mor immortal than humans are, from a practical point of view. :)

[nawitus]

We humans ARE machines..

[MachineRevolution]

Humans were always meant to transcend flesh, you can find this in ancient texts, religions, and spirituality.

And the way to transcend flesh is not through death, but through immortality. To become machine.

[fefethebitch]

holy shit. I watchedthat movie today. It's a real eye opener. I made the mistake of watching it for the first time with my siblings. If I knew it was going to be like that I wouldn't have let them. It took me a sec to take in the movie in the end. over all I think the movie was excellent! ^_^

[MetalGearRien]

erm, that is to say; i ment deleriousexile

[marquis669]

great music, great film! I love it!

[kiwirella]

love this song! *

[PiccoloNamek]

The sperm and the egg clearly signify that the technology involved is at least partially organic in nature. They have progressed to the point where they can create an egg cell that, when fertilized with a proper sperm cell, can actually grow and develop into whatever piece of technology they happen to need. In this case, it appears to be some kind of artificial neuron.

[anagittigana]

There are three versions of this track, and all three are awesome.

[usagikurisu89]

as beautiful and sad as i think this is...technology will not save us...and i hope i die before machines become overbearing.

[fefethebitch]

I agree.

[leeleauffx]

love this video, but i am at a loss about the weird little sperms and egg, it's cool, but i don't understand what their purpose is

[JetX85]

A nice progression from the first movie's opening. Although I must admit that putting more quotes from philosophers in your movie than actual dialogue can make for a tiresome movie. Still, the opening's very pretty.

[MoonEyes144]

I agree. I spent half of my time trying to figure out what those quotes ment because sometimes they came one right after the other and I had not processed the previous one yet.

[deleriousexile]

Never believe that humanity can be defined simply by 1's and 0's. It will always start with the orginals who's exerpiences developed what we all call emotions, morales, souls. Our experiences are what give us these things. Even if an android were to simply download these things, they came from flesh in the begining. Believe nothing less than the fact that humans will always be superior in some fashion.

by the way, nice clip catch from the movie. I love watching it over and over.

[Fistofthenorthstar]

well said... I personally think that there will be a point when we'll have to get machanic parts in our bodies inorder to proceed... but maybe its just my imagination... lol...

[deleriousexile]

i'd sign up now if I could, i'd love to have cybernetic body.

though im sure for a VERY LONG TIME, even if we can cyberize. Or go fully robotic... we will still leave a part of ourselves human.

[PiccoloNamek]

Humanity cannot be reduced to 1s and 0s, but it can be reduced to neuronal processes.

[deleriousexile]

still the fact remains, humans are humans not because of their flesh and blood, but because whom they are.

[PiccoloNamek]

Ultimately, everything a human is can be traced to something going on in the brain, so yes, we are what we are because of our flesh and blood.

[deleriousexile]

everything a human is, is based off chemicals and neurons.

Witch at some point can be mimiced by robotics. So all im saying is... that someday. You will be able to either transfer all those "neuronal processes" to something else.

"like a giant killer robot of massive death that flys through space blowing up planets..."

I mean to say... "a pretty little puppy"

[ABCMeEFG]

not saying i believe that... just the most extreme view of the point i'm trying to make. (nods respectfully to deleriousexile)

[Banshou]

In a sense, Humanity is already comprised of binary...

the human nervous system is comprised of a massive amount of neurons which can only be turned on or off, exactly like the concept of one and zero...

[noxure]

@deleriousexile The worlds fastest supercomputer today has the capacity of 2500 Teraflops. That's about 0.2% of the estimated capacity of a human brain.

In the 30 years of my life, I've seen computers getting one million times more powerful. So, it's perfectly possible that machines will surpass our intelligence, even within our lifetime. We can let them experience the world just as we do and they will be able to program themselves just like we do, only better.

[deleriousexile]

@noxure yes but machines always operate on facts of logic and mathematics. While we develop based on experiences and uncertainties. Even if a machine were to have the same capacity and processing power as the human brain. They would never be us. Take for instance data from star trek, or the dolls in ghost in the shell. They were powerful and sometimes super human to flesh and blood. Though they never matched up to us in aspect that we call humanity(emotions, creativity, ethics). 

[KOGR11]

@deleriousexile We use logic and discrete mathematics in our own conscious and unconscious decisions. And machines use a simplified system that hasnt quite reached our level yet, however even our own arbitrations are essentially mathematical in logical nature, including the uncertainties and experiences which are in effect evolving functions that we are constantly revaluating.

[KOGR11]

@deleriousexile In the end Machines dont have to match us, they have their own nature defining their own ethics and functionalities. At the end we are just a prisoner as they are in our own limitations and perceptions. Some of this are directly from Buddhist texts that led Shirow to raise the questions that he raised in context of man and machine. To declare any one of the sides superior to other is shortsightedness, when both are different worlds with own standards just as any human is.

[KOGR11]

@deleriousexile You can not possibly limit the reaches of an android within the reaches of the flesh that conceived it at first. An android's world is different, no matter how much of it is shaped in the image of the world of the flesh. Otherwise it would be saying the reality of a painting is always the painter's reality, the painting can infact transcend the painter's reality. Superiority of the flesh.. claiming to its purity is an illusion that your consciousness binds you to.

[adisander]

@deleriousexile In a sense humanity could be defined that way. Anything that is not infinite can be described by any other non-infinite set, such as 1's and 0's . You just need enough. In this case, you would need enough to describe the positions of every atom, every electron, and whatever other elementary particles there are. The main questions is, do you need all that? Anything that is 'human' but requires less resources for the same actions is superior.

[ABCMeEFG]

...the decline of the basic concept of humanity... brought about by our need to define ourselves with our increasing technology... one day... being "human" will be nothing but a bunch of 1's and 0's and a downloadable patch...

(( download compassion?  ))

[diffidentia]

Guilt has 0 seed(s) and 2 leech(es)

Oh well!

[MachineRevolution]

hahaha awesome!

"Guilt.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

If the problem persists, contact your local church."

[PinoyCowboyka788]

oooooo that was awsome ^^ I loveeeed the music 

[niancutepure]

Cool video!