History of Flight part 1

[MsRifle]

Oh they wouldnt believe where we are in aviation technology these days with advanced stealth planes. STOVL & VOL as well as UAVs. man, in only a matter of short time, we've come a long way :D

[binaway]

The Wright brothers were more educated than this suggests. They had also studied all the literature about flight theory they could obtain besides developing the first wind tunnel to test it all.

[Flafous]

The 14 Bis, in 1906, was the first machine to take off by their own means (motor) = plane and fly. In 1909 came the Demoiselle No. 19. Planes today are like the Demoiselle or the Wright brothers' powered glider. All have made their contribution. But historically, the first airplane to take off by their own means was the Santos Dumont's 14 Bis.

[88seanny]

lol tittyhawk?

[braziliandoc08]

The only evidence that the Wright brothers have their first flight, is a telegraphic message, and at the time were 6 people of witnesses.

The brazilian Santos Dummont flew in the presence of hundreds of people in France, his achievement was filmed, so he has the strongest proof.

Santos Dumont was recognized by the International Federation of Aeronautic, and Aero Club of France, as the first man to flight in a airplane.

[deshgan]

America was not 'first wing' given to the world. 5000 years ago great king Ravana (empire of three world) had a flying machine. called VIMANA. Try to learn Technology of great Ravana.

PROUD to be SRILANKAN

[rhadookoo12]

the first person who flew with a motor was Traian Vuia . he was romanian but he flew in paris

[brentsrx7]

@rhadookoo12 He flew an uncontrollable aircraft in 1906, the Wrights flew in 1903, 1904, and 1905.

[CanterburyAtheists]

HISTORY LESSON: The first person to build and fly a heavier-than-air machine was the New Zealander Richard Pearce who flew 9 months before The Wright Brothers. The Wright Brothers were the first people to perform what is called ‘controlled’ flight. The first person to actual build & fly a mechanised plane, complete a powered-flight was Richard Pearce.

[aaron8862006]

@CanterburyAtheists - That's a subject of some debate. Lifting off momentarily without control is a milestone, but relatively unimportant in that period of rapid innovation. The Wright Brothers are used as a benchmark because of their complete endeavor. (And subsequent mastery of the world scene with regards to aviation.)

[0cer0]

@CanterburyAtheists: There were dozens of non-contolled flights all over the world years before 1903.

[bizpretaes]

Alberto Santos Dumont the first!

[Verdelufe]

PROPAGANDA !!! Alberto Santos Dumont a major pioneer in aviation, most famous person in the world was not mention once in this clip. They keep denying Dumont but we are not going to forget Dumont, we are going to fight this powerful media.

[WConn100]

You're all wrong, the first man to fly a powered aircraft was a guy named Eddie.

[maiconjl]

SANTOS DUMONT WAS THE FIRST MAN TO FLY A MACHINE HEAVIER THE AIR!!! ALL THE WORLD AGREE THAT FACT~!!!

[L19G65]

The Romanian inventor Traian Vuia was the first one to take-off with ON-BORD MEANS ONLY in 18 March 1906 in Montesson, France ,just about half an year before Santos Dumont !!!! No catapults...,nothing else than its own engine !!!

[RodinaZovet]

@maiconjl

WRONG!

[rohitkumarindia]

Shivkar Bapuji Talpade - he was the first person on the planet who flew an aircraft in 1895 , his aircraft design was later seen & copied by many westerns & THE WRIGHT-BROTHERS flew their aircraft which was the copy of Shivkar Bapuji Talpade's aircraft , so WRIGHT-BROTHERS illegaly tooked the credit

[spiritring]

It suck! Get another documentary!

[Cerebralflatulance]

This is a terrible video. It's incorrect and total rubbish. Certainly the Wrights were integral in developing early flight, but they were not the first.

[LowresTV]

That's right, Santos Dumont was the first to take off and landing in a aircraft by its owns means, no catapult or any other device. Just in USA they say that the wrigth brothers were fisrt. For obvious reasons. Santos Dumont was first to fly an heaviar than air machine solely with the power of its engine. Spitfire, check YOUR story books.

[Daniel260289]

propulsão de uma catapulta? imaginem isso nos aeroportos uahuahuha

[deepseadirt]

the elderly man at the beginning, "old eyes", is Frank P. Lahm 1:25, who flew with both Wrights in 1909 and learned to fly their first military plane.

[Godsinwar]

Maravilha de documentário... É lamentável não ser totalmente verdadeiro.

[DavidHanceQuotivate]

Fantastic ingenuity and courage that the early inventors and aviators showed. Nothing but miraculous and fearless! (David Hance, Founder, Quotivate)

[johnyboy6405]

Wright Brothers didnt go to school, such as Leonardo da Vinci..

[spitfireJEJ]

@johnyboy6405 Where do you get your information? Of course they went to school and were diligent students as were the entire family. Wilbur was aiming at a career in law and then his studies were interrupted by the necessity of looking after his mother who had become very ill. During this period he became an auto-didact - the very best type of student.

[TheBFHFAN]

Gruß an klasse 8a aus dem WIGGY

[TheBFHFAN]

ja hier is der daniel und ja des video is wirklich cool :D

[Binkl45]

@TheBFHFAN ja ich weiß HAHAHAHA

[mig15fan]

there will be allways controversy when it comes to "the first" on everything! haha.Flight its a mankind acomplishment,and wright brothers deserve credit for their developments, along with many others,lilienthal, santos and many other forgotten heroes.

[dudamaraba]

a verdade é uma só o 14 bis levantou vôo enquanto que os irmãos Wrights foram jogados no ar... não sou arrogante pois tenho os pés no chão e sei que hoje a tecnologia norteamericana é infinitamente maior que a brasileira, mas, levem para o seu túmulo oque acharem...

[kenzoyur]

Neither Kitty Hawk nor 14-Bis !

The first CONTROLLED plane was the "Demoiselle", invented by Santos Dumont.

[sablatnic]

Does anyone know where the nonsense about the Wrights using a catapult for their 1903 flights comes? They used a catapult in 1904 on Huffman's farm, where the lack of wind would have demanded very long rails to ensure airspeed before lift off, but their flights in 1903 were from an unpowered trolley running on a wooden rail. And no. I am not American. I am European, know my history, and know that Vuia was the first European to fly. Mr Dumont was just the first to make a controlled flight.

[warp13]

It is just misinformation that has spread form the Dumont supporters, they assume that since some of the flights during the 1904-1905 season used this method then the 1903 flights also employed a similar system. They also doubt the credibility of the eyewitnesses on Dec 17th, stating that these people lied about the flights, data, and falsified the photos. Dumont is a hiccup in the HTA aviation history. His contribution minimal.

[suarezjaguar]

@warp13 catapult does not characterize an independent flight...

[warp13]

@suarezjaguar- I am not sure that I really want to start up the argument again. What can I say that hasn't already been said by the many of hundreds of posts. No matter how hard you and your like try: you can't change the past. I know that this must bother you and your type-I see that you and your type distort the past as though by doing so, you can alter it. Sadly no matter how hard you try-popular opinion will always be that the Wright Brothers were the first fly.

[suarezjaguar]

@warp13 What do you mean "didn't have the pioneer spirit"? Santos Dumont designed, built and flew the first dirigible balloons with a gasoline engine, he won the Deutsch Prize in 1901, while on a flight circled the Eiffel Tower with his airship No. 6. before the 14-bis. He totally had the "pioneer spirit".

He made a real flight in front of dozens of people in a public demonstration. not with a catapult...

[warp13]

@suarezjaguar-He didn't have any "back bone". He wouldn't have lasted a week in the OBX, let alone revisted it several seasons, as the wrights did. I didn't dispute his achievements with balloons, just HTAs. I mean pioneer in a sense of a harden, robust spirit. Most people like you can point out the wind speed and temp on Dec 17th, couild you image camping in these conditions, let alone trying to fly? For the last time, there was not catapult.

[warp13]

@suarezjaguar Another correction, he didn't "build " anything, he hired people to do his building. He never built any of his machines, he had them built-there is a BIG difference, give credit were credit is due. The Wrights built ALL of their machines, every component. His first demonstration, wasn't really his first, it was his first that worked. The Wrights never used a catapult on Kill Devil Hills in 1903, the used their brains.

[bainsy13]

@warp13 the wright brothers didnt build their planes either, Charles E. Taylor did all the work but gets no recognition and yes they did use a catapult mechanism with a counterweight to launch their first plane off a rail because they didnt use wheels until later. learn your facts before you start fights

[warp13]

@bainsy13-I am not discrediting his contributions, but he did not do all the work as you mention, he was an employee of the Wright brothers and assisted them. He was part of the team. I don't believe that he was present in Kill Devil? However he was used to make replace parts as needed. He made their first motor.

I know about the catapult, which was very practical considering the where they were flying and the frequent shifting wind and under powered motor. It worked.

[warp13]

@suarezjaguar- Most people have never heard of Dumont, unless they study balloons, then his name is mentioned. His contribution to HTA flight in minimal ; he was a "showman". His life style would not have let him endure the harsh climate of the OBX, the hurricanes or the mosquitos-the heat or the cold, Dumont didn't have the "pioneer spirit" that was inherent in the Wrights from birth. Dumont was a product of his pampered eccentric lifestyle.

[DII117]

1:26 It's the priest from the remake of the movie Damein

[naganokumas]

Lawrence Hargrave.

[MrRaiosetrovoes]

Santos Dumont o pai da aviação

[homocromagnom]

Amigo o pai é outro tudo começou muito antes.Mas continuo a dizer estes burros é que não foram.

[Ltdeacon]

"theory of flight" lol , i know it was hard back then because they were gonna do something everyone else ( more or less failed at). it gives me hope when people say " theory of FTL flight"

[12WDH12]

if the wright bro's would come to live right now i bet they would be proud of aviation

[TheVpopmusic]

hey, thanks a lot

i was looking for this

thanks for uploading those videos ^_^

[labuyo58]

proudtobebrazilian: (2) An machine is defined as an airplane if it meets these criteria; manned, powered, heaver-than-air, fully controllable around all three (x,y,z) axes and CAPABLE OF SUSTAINED FLIGHT. M. Dumont's (1906) 10ft high - 200 ft long hop cannot be assesssed as sustained flight. Let us be biased on the true technical evaluation please! Peace!

[proudtobebrazilian]

right, americans were the first to fly, but they flew something lighter than air and dumont was actually the first man to fly a machine heavier than air like the planes of today in 1906 and the wright brothers flew a machine heavier than air in 1908.

[479731]

Incorrect. The Montgolfiers first flew a lighter than air craft carry humans in 1783. The Wrights flew the first heavier than air craft in controlled flight to take off under it's own power and land at an elevation at least as high as the takeoff point in December 1903. There are several eyewitnesses and a photograph as proof. Santos- Dumont had no lateral control capability.

[proudtobebrazilian]

the montgolfiers flew a balloon, there is a lot of history books that talk about santos dumont.

[labuyo58]

proudtobebraziian: Let me add to 479731's comment. Both the Wright brothers and M. Dumont flew heavier-than-air machines. And on Oct 23, 1906, M. Dumont made a 10ft altitude for a 200 feet long HOP, not flight. A YEAR BEFORE M. Dumont made that attempt, the Wright Brothers on Oct 1905, made a 20 mile FLIGHT, a FULL YEAR before M. Dumont made his first HOP. (cont'd.)

[paulomagalhaes]

Stop fighting. It's perfectly possible two persons have the same idea. The portuguese dominates the Atlantic in 1500. But at the same time, the chinese were the kings of Pacific.

The brazilians has to recognize that the american process of registring trademaks and inventions is a good thing. The Wright brothers were business man. Dumont was just an inventor. But we cannot be just inventors. We have to register and to sell the invention. The French created the tanks, but the Germans used it.

[labuyo58]

paulomagalhaes: Uhm, no, i think the French never invented the tank, it was a British invention, and was used during World War I. This was to break the stalemate of intense trench warfare, and it proved successful. The Germans was able to obtain a disabled tank, studied it and made their own version.

[glvsgersonluiz]

Um monumento à mentira !!!!

[spitfireJEJ]

As a matter of fact the Wrights first took off from an unpowered trolley which ran on a wooden rail. The only power on the initial flights was from the aircraft itself. The catapult refinement to that was only used later on.

[labuyo58]

spitfireJEJ: Uhm, i think it was the other way around. The Wright brothers used the catapult in their earlier flights and used the tricycle gear later with their Flyer III who attained a sustained flight of 20 miles on Oct 1905, a full year before M. Dumont made his first HOP of 200 ft long, altitude of 10ft.

[spitfireJEJ]

Not true, check your history books. Trolley first, then catapult, then as the power of their engine increased they needed neither to take off. And don't forget they designed and built their own engine, a remarkable achievement in itself.

[lesterclaypool1]

@spitfireJEJ check out harry or henry condan

[spitfireJEJ]

@lesterclaypool1 Not sure I know what you are getting at. Do you mean Henri Coanda?

[lesterclaypool1]

@spitfireJEJ yes very impressive and ahead of his time , im not hacking the wrights im just saying henri was a bit well mad in a good way ,,,,7 years after the wirghts henri was doing his stuff this is impressive for what they had to work with

[spitfireJEJ]

@lesterclaypool1 Yes to some extent. Coanda designed a conventional biplane with wings of very high aspect ratio. It had a shrouded propellor and it was from this starting point that what we know as the Coanda effect was developed and refined.

[lesterclaypool1]

@spitfireJEJ to me thats impressive ,,, especially when you compare this to auto or trains design or other inventions ,,, do you know how fast coandas plane went ? i believe it crashed ,

[spitfireJEJ]

@lesterclaypool1 Sady it does not look as though it ever actually flew far enough to establish its performance.  There is a photo of it in Coanda's Wikipedia entry together with info that the propulsion was an early form of hot air jet. I am not sure that is entirely accurate although the Caproni firm made a similar hybrid piston/jet plane decades later.

[lesterclaypool1]

@spitfireJEJ ya i just read the wiki on it and it does nt say how far or fast  it went ,,,

[spitfireJEJ]

@lesterclaypool1 Sadly that is because it hardly flew at all before crashing. Coanda conceptualised his well known effect, but it took others to make it work. Even now it is doubtful if Coanda machines offer any performance advantage over ordinary helicopters.

[LowresTV]

@spitfireJEJ yes it is true. Wright bro used a catapult. The first to fly the way airplanes do nowadays was Alberto Santos Dumont, from Brasil. In america(because you live in a bubble) they say otherwaise. The rest of the world consider A.S.Dumont. He did it in front of a lot of people, filmed, documented by experts, the Wirght did in front of "friends". A.S.Dumont, posed the invention to public domain, the wrigt wanted patent it.

Santos Dumont, the father of modern aviation. This vid is biased.

[sihanling]

As for Dumont... 14 BIS flew in 1906 ... not 1903

[sihanling]

Did Santos Dumont get his countries president to ride the plane with him ? Did he managage to market his accomplishment ? Invention is one thing... MARKETING is another. The first to market is going to be considered the true victor. Du Mont is a footnote.

[155383]

Anyone here heard of Richard Pearse in New Zealand.I believe his story was he did not land successfully and so considered his flight a failure. This was months before the Wright brothers.

[johnnyr2000]

Wright Brothers flew with a catapult. The first plane who fly without any external help was 14 Bis from Santos Dumont. Brazillian who lived in Paris.

[cvitza]

@johnnyr2000 true...he was the first one to fly

[justincrzo]

Its been my experience, with these Dumonters, they care little about facts, official records, or whatever documents you can bring up or present, their's is an "emotional" response and you'll also notice they "only" seem to quote anything or anyone, if it somehow discredits the Wright brothers, not about anything of what Dumont accomplished. Its like them quoting Wil's letter to Ferber, stating Wil was trying steal Dumont's technology, but never anything specific about "what" technology?

[RodinaZovet]

@johnnyr2000

Wrong. First person who created flying device without any support from ground foundations was Alexander Mozhaisky in 1882.

[aaron8862006]

@johnnyr2000 - The "Wright Flyer"/ 1903 flew first, 3 years before Santos Dumont, without a catapult. The Wright Brothers' aircraft took off from a rail, instead of using wheels. The 14-bis' most notable improvement on that first powered flight was the inclusion of wheeled gear, instead of skids. The 14-bis did not fly until 1906. Get your facts straight please, or don't comment.

[brentsrx7]

@johnnyr2000 So the Wright brothers flew first, and Santos Dumont literally cried about it and stole the wrights designs a few years later... Sounds like a sore looser to me.

[jrkepler]

@johnnyr2000 well sort of, the first flight was done without a catapult, but relied on the strong winds at Kitty Hawk. (thats why they were there) After they were thrown out of North Carolina they continued their work and used catapults in other locations.

[liamtobyaus]

@johnnyr2000 on their first flight their plane didn't have a catapult.



[ravenarrestor]

I get a kick out of Eugene Ely landing on a piece of plywood on battleship with one of these crazy flying machines.. Great video and history lesson, btw..

[ingareinar007]

Well, in 1891, German Otto Lillenthal was the first to fly, though it was a glider. He crashed in 1896, saying: Small sacrifices must be made! But there are strong rumors that another German made the first motorised flight in 1899 or 1901, after working together with Lillenthal. But being German, immigrating to USA, world-war 1..

[ingareinar007]

The other German was named: Gustave Whitehead!

[warp13]

Ingareinar007-There is no substantial evidence to support Whitehead's claims. But as I have seen many people feel that it was a case of discrimination, rather than these same people investigating the facts or presenting tangible evidence.

[ingareinar007]

Ok, I guess this needs some further investigation and reading. But it is interesting though.

[warp13]

I believe we discussed this before, with a different video? Yes it could be, but not when people only see his failures as a form of discrimmination. I don't believe he succeeded, if he did then there would be something as proof, not just afidavits taken 30 years after the fact. Since everything was lost or destroyed, people feel that it's a conspiracy or discrimmination. There is even an eyewitness who claims that the Wrights visited Whitehead and stole his ideas.

[ingareinar007]

It is ofcourse sometimes too easy to pop up with theise theories. I just saw (not an evidence though) on a recording of the Discovery Channel, a "middle shorter program", when they adress this, so I just thought that the channel is serious, but anyway, It must be looked further into.. Me and my cousin are going to New York later this year, so I look forward to that :)

[warp13]

By all means, Whitehead was in the Bridgeport area, there is plenty of information about his locations.While in New York, if you have time, stop by the Rhinebeck Aerodrome. They have shows Saturday and Sunday, if you are not familiar, check out the web for details. Keep me posted on any new details.

[ingareinar007]

Thank you! I will do my best! And wow, I allso look forward to see the scrapers as well. In Oslo, the talles buildning is about 130-140 meters.. Have a nice day! :)

[warp13]

Ingareinar007-Different subject,since you mention Oslo, I recently made an inquire to Think! Global. Are these vehicles being sold in Norway?

[ingareinar007]

Yes, and they are the only "cars" of Norwegian mass-production. But I think it is sold to the Ford motor-company. I will come back to you on that! Have a nice day :)

[ingareinar007]

Yes, funny thing.. The screws on boats is basicly the same as the one used on planes (they had to do further development though for their plane), even the wings. Creating underpressure and overpressure. The Wright-brothers did an amazing job, creating the propellers for their plane.. I used to make propelers for Rolls Royce Marine. That`s hydrodynamics, but it is quite possible what you write. Great!  Oslo

[zaohad1]

it was just basically a big glider with an engine and propeller. hardly anyone back then even understood how much wing you need and a propeller, they must have got the idea from a ships screw.

It works in water why not air?

[warp13]

ZAOHAD1-That is how many aviators thought until the Wrights, especially when the Wrights looked into propellers and making theirs efficient. Also, the Wrights didn't go with steam power as did many leading aviators. I would agree with you and Lilenthal and his work, unfortunately he was killed, I feel that he would have made a greater contribution.

[ingareinar007]

(I`ll try to explain, but my technical English sometimes is grrrr, hehe)

Well, if you take a hot shover, the shover-cover get sucked to your body. It is created underpressure inside the shover. Pressure and heat is actually the same thing.. Allso what I think what is interesting with the new "Osprey" planes, is that they can pave way for new aircrafts. To do new things..

[pi4zinhu]

The Real Father of aviation was a brazillian, called Alberto Santos Dumont

The Wright Brothers is just another american lie, bullshits, bullshits and more bullshits.

In 2003 in the anniversary of "Wright Brothers First Flight" some people tryed to fly again, using a exactly replic of the Wright's aircraft, and guess... it DIDN'T WORK!

[zaohad1]

the real father of flight to me was otto lilenthal who succesfly flew hang gliders in 1800s.

[thomasuras]

I guess if you call dieing in one of his gliders successful .

[thomasuras]

You dumb ass where you from ? Hell its no secret America cheats steals and robs , no one can keep up with Us in that department, Why do you think were #1

[charithdhanu]

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