As for the universe not being able to start existing, what about God? How did God start to exist?
Also, if you had any brains, you would know there is a massive difference between the conditions now and before the big bang. Experiments now don't tell you much about before the big bang. Also, have you heard of virtual particles? Go research them.
Here is a hint, go back to sleep, and then once you get up, go have some coffee, and then once you are wide awake, go talk to grown ups, until then, be quiet.
Notice a key part - dis - this means that they don't believe.
A similar word, a-sexual, it has two parts, a - without, and sexual - essentially sex.
a-sexual is without sex. This does not mean that an asexual organism is sexual.
If you disbelieve something, you don't believe it. This is not a belief, it is a lack of one.
Agnostic doesn't say anything about believing in god, you can both be an Atheist and an agnostic, and a Theist and an agnostic. Atheist only defines what you don't believe, like vegetarians are defined by what they don't eat. Just because vegetarians are defined by that they don't eat meat are you then going to tell them that they eat meat according to that logic?
Semantics wise atheism is the belief that there is no god.
The interesting thing is the many debates of theism vs. atheism where its more about the wording than the actual belief.
Science seems closer to the truth of the universe because it has logic and tangibility. This does not automatically rule out god based religions but many people prefer theories/logic to faith or logic/faith mix that some religious people have.
To quickly answer your question...I believe in Cthulhu. He will rise up from Rlyeh, when the stars are right, to claim our souls. So, yes, I do have a belief. :D
This video is such a spectacular distillation of stupidity it should win a prize. Someone should count the times this guy says 'You don't believe and that's a belief.' I'd do it myself but I'm laughing too hard.
I really start to believe that youtube should introduce a new flag... "creationist bullshit"...
always the same.. some stupid arguments that prevent them from thinking further.
The scientific explanation is so simple, beautiful and working.. I don't get why someone would incist on a stupid "god did it"-idea without even seeing the necessity of it to be true, to actually be worth of believing in it.
Just read some Hawking or Einstein (In case you're not familiar, remember those scientists that were smarter than you? They're smarter than most of them.) H) Mathematically impossible? Big Bang Theory is supported by physics. Physics are the laws of nature. Theories in physics are solidified using mathematics. (I dare you to argue against gravity, which is also 'just a theory', by the way.)
G) The Big Bang did not come from nothing!!! (there's M-theory, collisions, explosions, all guesses, but educated guesses, unlike God being the only alternative. That's worshipping the gaps) There is, and look it up a thousand times if need be, very, very good evidence for the Big Bang. There's no evidence for God (except for that "look at a sunset", "look at that baby" shit theists retardedly accept as evidence).
E) The Santa thing. Words just aren't your thing. Theist ('theos': God '-ist': to adhere to a certain doctrine or custom) if you believed in Santa, you'd be a Santaist. And we do technically adhere (involuntarily) to the 'custom' of breathing, so oxygenist isn't far off. F) More oblivious misunderstanding and misusing of belief and unbelief and "do not believe" that don't need more mention of.
C) The "unbelief" dabacle is Kindergarten ignorant. If you DISlike someone, does that mean you like them? Better yet, if people tell untruths ("God is real"), are they now truths? D) More etymological ineptitude regarding your definition of atheist. "Deny" in that sense is not equivalent to the adage "in denial". Deny: to refuse to accept as true or right. In Denial: believing, or not believing, something despite all evidence proving otherwise.
A) The opinion that Evolution lacks evidence is ignorant. Every reputable scientist accepts it as fact. And, whether you believe it or not, they're much smarter than you. Do a little research. B) The opinion that atheists are in denial is ignorant and 100% backwards. We believe things human beings (who are real) have proven (i.e. God is not), not things in a psychopathic tome written by men in a time when, as Christopher Hitchens put it, a wheelbarrow would've been advanced technology.
an antithesis is NOT a thesis you fucking retard, ATHEISM is the LACK of religion, not a religion itself.......stop coining words that you dont know the meaning of
Your saying that the evolution theory doesn't have evidence. That is very stupid of you. I'm not trying to argue the point of the evolution theory. It's just show to me concrete evidence that your religion or beileifs holds merit.
This guy is fucking idiot. He is ALL over the place with his "argument." Just because atheists must use words that are in the English language, such as BELIEF, in order to describe how they see the world does NOT mean ANYTHING. This guy's whole argument seems to be that since atheists use the word "belief" and have a concept of what religious belief is then this somehow means atheists also must "believe." He is using the word "belief" in a completely absurd and meaningless way.
No belief is not a belief system. Atheists are not in denial. Atheism is NOT a belief system, its a lack of it. Being sober is not an alcohol problem because they have no alcohol in their body. Bald is not a hair color, it's lack of hair. Christianity can be seen as a hair color and each different color is a different religion, Atheism would be the no hair, it is not a hair color, just as it is not a belief among other belief systems. I hope the analogy didn't implode your head.
Atheists are A-theist. They have no theists beliefs. It's not a belief, it's a rejection. Belief relies on an idea in the lack or counter to evidence. It's a scientific idea. I will believe when you have proof, until then I reject it. I have no belief in God, but I don't believe, necessarily, believe God is not real. Lack of faith is not a faith.
Study big bang theory, evolution, and quantum physics before you make another video. This is just getting crazy. You are trying to apply a few philosophical ideas, the Bible, and your ideas to explain science and reality. Don't use Wikipedia. Take a class. Learn about the new theories pertaining to the epigenome, pre-big bang, and why they think these ideas are true. What is their proof? Until then these vids are meaningless
Why would you ever argue against something that you admit to not having much knowledge about? It's incorrect to take something so incredibly complex like quantum physics and the big band theory and compare it to everyday experience. And yes, I'm a scientist.
LOL, gravity has decreased 7% every 100years the earth can't even be more then 20,000 years. And the moon leaves us a few inches every year. why is it still here?
its 1 in 10 to the 15th power, so that's 1 in 150,000,000,000 = (impossible)
one constant, electromagnetic force to gravity is 1 in 10 to the 40th power.
that atheists have centralized ideals like religion. So is the term "Beliefs". in fact, Atheist in my opinion is the abandonment of centralized ideals and traditions handed down, for the search of the truth. Its important to note why I distinguish the ideals are not like religion. Science does not need devout-ness (not a word) as its proof. Instead of finds testable answers. If something is not testable, it can not be fact. Big Bang is not fact.
The Reason the big bang is a fact is because we see the physical evidence for it, just like why you watch a car coming down the street you can predict where it will end up. We see all the objects in the Universe originating from a single origin. Leaving no choice but a Big Bang. That is what logic and reason provide us with, tools to think with... Religion is the opposite of this, as it makes claims, then denies any evidence against it, science does not make claims, only looks at the evidence
But when you measure the testable physics involved. It becomes the best possible answer to describe the current universe. Just like evolution latter becomes the most acceptable answer for life on this planet. But also unlike religion, if something is wrong, its completely acceptable to point it out, and continue searching for the right answer. Religion does not do this. They simply call it beliefs. Example. You (Christians) can not let go to the flood. Even though
Historians have told you countlessly your story comes from older version called the Epic of Gilddamesh.. Its because you have Belief and conviction, you will not admit this to yourself. So no . We dont have beliefs and the lack there of is not classified as a belief. We embrace testable truth, not things that just make us feel warm but can not be proven. Loosen your Braids.
Are you seriously this ignorant? You read the definition of Atheism aloud and still got it all wrong. The lack of a belief is, by definition, not a belief. Many atheists go further to say that they believe there is no god. This is called "Strong Atheism". Many, like myself, take the view that, given the evidence, God is so unlikely that the god hypothesis is not worth pursuing as an explanation for the origin of the universe. These are beliefs. Belief does not require faith.
Open a dictionary or go to dictionary,com and you'll notice how the word faith is described in the word belief and vise versa. Get back to me when you do that.
u don't understand atheism..we look around, and we see no god. we hear no god. we feel no god. we smell no god and we taste no god. we only sense nature..yet, u say there is a god transcendent of nature.. so, we say, ok, provide direct evidence of this god, and we will believe. it's not that we claim there isn't a god, we just don't yet accept your claim that there is.
Evolution not explaining how the universe created itself: Evolution doesn't deal with this, your argument is null.
The believe/disbelieve is just stupid semantics, and I think you know that. Disbelief can be lots of things, but not belief. What you're basically doing is muddying the waters by try to make Atheism look like a belief-system, this is a strawman.
Your arguments are basically just old Christian talking points that people zone out, sorry.
I shall quote the late great Douglas Adams in response to this: I do not believe there is no god, I am convinced there is no god. There simply isn't the evidence to say that he exists.
No one in their right mind would say that the universe created itself. The universe was once a singularity, which expanded. But as for where that came from, the only answer is that we don't really have a clue, and probably never will.
To refute that the universe created itself is a classic straw man fallacy.
Evidence isn't proof, you can't prove there's no God...It takes faith to believe the universe was once a singularity because you can't prove it. Plus you'll never be able to prove matter can just exist from nothing. So that's blind faith with no possibility of proof, and you admitted that fact. And I'm the one who believes in illogical things? I hate that strawman crap...people use it too often. I was only ruling out the possibility that the universe evolved from nothing.
By using a strawman argument, you really should learn what you're talking about, this is the third video where you talk out of your ass and use logical fallacies and strawmen to prove a point that is nothing more than a semantic argument to stroke your undeserved ego.
I'm just assuming you call ever question you can't answer a strawman question. That's really annoying. I hate when people do that. They feel justified in not knowing the answer when they call it a strawman question. How about you show me a strawman question that I asked...
I thought I said I think they do...At least they're not claiming anything. They're just saying they don't know. That's better than saying you know, but have no proof for what you claim to know...
I can't prove anything to you, if you want to know you'll find out for yourself. I've already said no one can prove or disprove the existence of God...
The blood dries making a natural bandage covering the cut till it heals.
This is an evolutionary protection mechanism for the human body.
There is also an evolutionary protection mechanism for the human mind. "Belief" is a bandage for the human mind when it experiences discomfort.
All humans that have ever lived have had special neural circuitry in the temporal part of the frontal lobe that kicks in when that person experiences trauma.
No one has ever shown god, but they might kill you over it, they'll kill blacks over it, gays, people that worship a different god ... indeed, mothers have drown their own children. That's how important this bandage is, that's how much power this bandage has on the human mind.
Now ... to see how powerful, try and stop believing, ... most people can't ... or many say they feel fear at being alone in this giant universe. God fixes anything people can't deal with.
Band-aids prove evolutionary protection mechanism exist. If you get cut, you put on a band-aid and it heals up. This is EVOLUTIONARY protection mechanism.
No that's just sanitary, hygienic, and common sense. If you cut yourself, cover it up so it doesn't get infected. You people like to claim everything for evolution. By your logic, the transition from Geo Prism to Ferrari shows evolution because Ferrari's drive better. Every little human behavior doesn't show evolution.
No, it's a learned response. Theoretically, if humanity has "band aids" long enough, we could concieve of this becoming a natural response. As a tool using species this could be considered a form of intellectual evolution, no?
Basically what you're saying is you're assuming this. You're saying this could have happened in theory, which would make it a belief since you can't prove it...
Band-aids only prove that when you get cut you have something to put over it to help it not get infected. If you say anything else about it you're just assuming it because you can't prove it.
You can not claim that's evolution...I can just as easily say that's creation. If that's the case then, when the first men got cut they should have bled to death seeing as how that mechanism would have been majorly undeveloped and premature...You have to do better than that...
"when the first men got cut they should have bled to death seeing as how that mechanism would have been majorly undeveloped and premature"
The above conclusion is 100% incorrect ... go and study where humans came from ... then get back to me. You can't discuss algebra with someone who has no clue that 2 + 2 = 4
either that OR, you're just trying to get attention.
Actually, when I tell people to educate themselves I really mean it. You can't just read one side. I did that for years, and I was a creationist. About 20 years ago I started educating myself about science and logic and I have come to some conclusions. You might come to different conclusions but at the very least you would be able to intelligently discuss the subject matter. Right now you are just showing your ignorance by vehemently defending a position you don't even understand.
geee ... you must be the smartest person in the whole childish world. By all of your above standards, I also can't prove gravity, ... and since that's the case ... you can go walk off of a cliff, and maybe you'll finally get the point (that keeps eluding you) In the meantime, if you can't walk off a cliff ... Then you DO get the point.
You actually can. If I say there's a little man the size of two inches in this orange, then I give you the orange. All you have to do is open it and if you don't find the little man, then you proved that something doesn't exist...
Wow, you couldn't reason yourself out of a paper bag. This video was utter nonsense from start to finish. Not believing = belief? Sorry, you fail. Try again.
That 'ol neural circuitry in the temporal part of the frontal lobe has been switched on for this guys whole life. Complete inability to reason, even simple reasoning. Very Sad.
If natural selection was not out there we wouldn't have viruses with multiple antibiotic resistance.
To you provide evidence against you would have to show that 1. all the population on earth have no genetic variety 2. The populations do not breed in a way to promote variety. (sex not asexual) 3. one design type is never better suited to an enviroment then another (long thick coats at the poles vs short thin)
That just a few bits of evidence we have. No faith. No bullshit. science.
As for the universe not being able to start existing, what about God? How did God start to exist?
Also, if you had any brains, you would know there is a massive difference between the conditions now and before the big bang. Experiments now don't tell you much about before the big bang. Also, have you heard of virtual particles? Go research them.
blackjeffrey1 9 months ago
Here is a hint, go back to sleep, and then once you get up, go have some coffee, and then once you are wide awake, go talk to grown ups, until then, be quiet.
Notice a key part - dis - this means that they don't believe.
A similar word, a-sexual, it has two parts, a - without, and sexual - essentially sex.
a-sexual is without sex. This does not mean that an asexual organism is sexual.
If you disbelieve something, you don't believe it. This is not a belief, it is a lack of one.
blackjeffrey1 9 months ago
Another note
The Big Bang hasn't happened again because all the matter in the universe is not compressed into a singularity..
So it can't rapidly expand again..
ILCROCKS 11 months ago
Well, breathing in oxygen is a necessary action
But believing in santa on the other hand, is not necessary ..
Sucks to be you
ILCROCKS 11 months ago
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If you don't believe in mermaids does that mean that you have a belief?
lilmarome 1 year ago
Agnostic doesn't say anything about believing in god, you can both be an Atheist and an agnostic, and a Theist and an agnostic. Atheist only defines what you don't believe, like vegetarians are defined by what they don't eat. Just because vegetarians are defined by that they don't eat meat are you then going to tell them that they eat meat according to that logic?
lilmarome 1 year ago
Semantics wise atheism is the belief that there is no god.
The interesting thing is the many debates of theism vs. atheism where its more about the wording than the actual belief.
Science seems closer to the truth of the universe because it has logic and tangibility. This does not automatically rule out god based religions but many people prefer theories/logic to faith or logic/faith mix that some religious people have.
nichirenx 1 year ago
Not believing in the tooth-fairy is belief within itself?
NerdySabbath 1 year ago
To quickly answer your question...I believe in Cthulhu. He will rise up from Rlyeh, when the stars are right, to claim our souls. So, yes, I do have a belief. :D
pielord4141 1 year ago
This video is such a spectacular distillation of stupidity it should win a prize. Someone should count the times this guy says 'You don't believe and that's a belief.' I'd do it myself but I'm laughing too hard.
singring76 1 year ago
I really start to believe that youtube should introduce a new flag... "creationist bullshit"...
always the same.. some stupid arguments that prevent them from thinking further.
The scientific explanation is so simple, beautiful and working.. I don't get why someone would incist on a stupid "god did it"-idea without even seeing the necessity of it to be true, to actually be worth of believing in it.
liquidminds 1 year ago
As you can see, you did not destroy the validity of atheism. I think what I did to your video is a much better example of destroying.
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
Just read some Hawking or Einstein (In case you're not familiar, remember those scientists that were smarter than you? They're smarter than most of them.) H) Mathematically impossible? Big Bang Theory is supported by physics. Physics are the laws of nature. Theories in physics are solidified using mathematics. (I dare you to argue against gravity, which is also 'just a theory', by the way.)
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
G) The Big Bang did not come from nothing!!! (there's M-theory, collisions, explosions, all guesses, but educated guesses, unlike God being the only alternative. That's worshipping the gaps) There is, and look it up a thousand times if need be, very, very good evidence for the Big Bang. There's no evidence for God (except for that "look at a sunset", "look at that baby" shit theists retardedly accept as evidence).
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
E) The Santa thing. Words just aren't your thing. Theist ('theos': God '-ist': to adhere to a certain doctrine or custom) if you believed in Santa, you'd be a Santaist. And we do technically adhere (involuntarily) to the 'custom' of breathing, so oxygenist isn't far off. F) More oblivious misunderstanding and misusing of belief and unbelief and "do not believe" that don't need more mention of.
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
C) The "unbelief" dabacle is Kindergarten ignorant. If you DISlike someone, does that mean you like them? Better yet, if people tell untruths ("God is real"), are they now truths? D) More etymological ineptitude regarding your definition of atheist. "Deny" in that sense is not equivalent to the adage "in denial". Deny: to refuse to accept as true or right. In Denial: believing, or not believing, something despite all evidence proving otherwise.
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
A) The opinion that Evolution lacks evidence is ignorant. Every reputable scientist accepts it as fact. And, whether you believe it or not, they're much smarter than you. Do a little research. B) The opinion that atheists are in denial is ignorant and 100% backwards. We believe things human beings (who are real) have proven (i.e. God is not), not things in a psychopathic tome written by men in a time when, as Christopher Hitchens put it, a wheelbarrow would've been advanced technology.
Crazyfistthehero 1 year ago
an antithesis is NOT a thesis you fucking retard, ATHEISM is the LACK of religion, not a religion itself.......stop coining words that you dont know the meaning of
TJmarian 2 years ago
did he just say a disbelief is a belief?
XavierDrake 2 years ago
Your saying that the evolution theory doesn't have evidence. That is very stupid of you. I'm not trying to argue the point of the evolution theory. It's just show to me concrete evidence that your religion or beileifs holds merit.
SuperHammerTwins 2 years ago
change the battery in your smoke detector!
CanadiaNecro1 2 years ago
5:45 is the middle of the night for me!
Athiests are just honest with themselves and don't try to fool themselves into accepting anything blindly. That's what faith is.
This guy doesn't really seem to get it.
Not believing in something is not the same as believing in nothing.
Ever hear of Nihilism?
CanadiaNecro1 2 years ago
you should do stand-up.
flynbryan41 2 years ago
This guy is fucking idiot. He is ALL over the place with his "argument." Just because atheists must use words that are in the English language, such as BELIEF, in order to describe how they see the world does NOT mean ANYTHING. This guy's whole argument seems to be that since atheists use the word "belief" and have a concept of what religious belief is then this somehow means atheists also must "believe." He is using the word "belief" in a completely absurd and meaningless way.
jjj3wright 2 years ago 2
I'm of the mindset that you can't get this brand of stupid unless you really concentrate, so I'm not sure if I should be in awe or saddened.
maverik713 2 years ago 9
im an agnostic atheist i cant prove god is real but i cant prove unicorns and dragons are real as well god is in this same category.
i dont think god exist and i wuld bet my life on it but in the end im only mortal.
who made god? its not a qustion of if life was made its a qustion of god or a natural force making something.
nezahualcoyotl85 2 years ago
theres some proof god exist, at least its on a book, real or not, now what evidence there is GOD does not exist?????
give me 3 good evidences GOD does not exist?
luian90 2 years ago
No belief is not a belief system. Atheists are not in denial. Atheism is NOT a belief system, its a lack of it. Being sober is not an alcohol problem because they have no alcohol in their body. Bald is not a hair color, it's lack of hair. Christianity can be seen as a hair color and each different color is a different religion, Atheism would be the no hair, it is not a hair color, just as it is not a belief among other belief systems. I hope the analogy didn't implode your head.
bcFiRe12 2 years ago 4
That's actually a very elegant way of getting that point across.
madmodder 2 years ago
thank you. i hope you don't mind if i use that in explaining it to people in my own conversations
neilwetmore 2 years ago
I believe in evidence and reason.
"no evidence for evolution"
Oh please. Where did/do you get your education?
RPFS2008 3 years ago
Why did you steal L from death note?!!!! lol death note is awesome.
olf267 3 years ago
Atheists are A-theist. They have no theists beliefs. It's not a belief, it's a rejection. Belief relies on an idea in the lack or counter to evidence. It's a scientific idea. I will believe when you have proof, until then I reject it. I have no belief in God, but I don't believe, necessarily, believe God is not real. Lack of faith is not a faith.
I dare manuppower up to -logically- reply.
Allallt 3 years ago
Study big bang theory, evolution, and quantum physics before you make another video. This is just getting crazy. You are trying to apply a few philosophical ideas, the Bible, and your ideas to explain science and reality. Don't use Wikipedia. Take a class. Learn about the new theories pertaining to the epigenome, pre-big bang, and why they think these ideas are true. What is their proof? Until then these vids are meaningless
conquerer117 3 years ago
Why would you ever argue against something that you admit to not having much knowledge about? It's incorrect to take something so incredibly complex like quantum physics and the big band theory and compare it to everyday experience. And yes, I'm a scientist.
TBucker 3 years ago
LOL, gravity has decreased 7% every 100years the earth can't even be more then 20,000 years. And the moon leaves us a few inches every year. why is it still here?
its 1 in 10 to the 15th power, so that's 1 in 150,000,000,000 = (impossible)
one constant, electromagnetic force to gravity is 1 in 10 to the 40th power.
worm102 3 years ago
that atheists have centralized ideals like religion. So is the term "Beliefs". in fact, Atheist in my opinion is the abandonment of centralized ideals and traditions handed down, for the search of the truth. Its important to note why I distinguish the ideals are not like religion. Science does not need devout-ness (not a word) as its proof. Instead of finds testable answers. If something is not testable, it can not be fact. Big Bang is not fact.
lancejujitsu 3 years ago
The Reason the big bang is a fact is because we see the physical evidence for it, just like why you watch a car coming down the street you can predict where it will end up. We see all the objects in the Universe originating from a single origin. Leaving no choice but a Big Bang. That is what logic and reason provide us with, tools to think with... Religion is the opposite of this, as it makes claims, then denies any evidence against it, science does not make claims, only looks at the evidence
Jarreheads 3 years ago
hehe thats where i was going but never finished my next comment. Thanks for summing it up. = D
lancejujitsu 3 years ago
But when you measure the testable physics involved. It becomes the best possible answer to describe the current universe. Just like evolution latter becomes the most acceptable answer for life on this planet. But also unlike religion, if something is wrong, its completely acceptable to point it out, and continue searching for the right answer. Religion does not do this. They simply call it beliefs. Example. You (Christians) can not let go to the flood. Even though
lancejujitsu 3 years ago
Historians have told you countlessly your story comes from older version called the Epic of Gilddamesh.. Its because you have Belief and conviction, you will not admit this to yourself. So no . We dont have beliefs and the lack there of is not classified as a belief. We embrace testable truth, not things that just make us feel warm but can not be proven. Loosen your Braids.
lancejujitsu 3 years ago
Are you seriously this ignorant? You read the definition of Atheism aloud and still got it all wrong. The lack of a belief is, by definition, not a belief. Many atheists go further to say that they believe there is no god. This is called "Strong Atheism". Many, like myself, take the view that, given the evidence, God is so unlikely that the god hypothesis is not worth pursuing as an explanation for the origin of the universe. These are beliefs. Belief does not require faith.
atheistliberty 3 years ago 8
Open a dictionary or go to dictionary,com and you'll notice how the word faith is described in the word belief and vise versa. Get back to me when you do that.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
yessss....the words faith and belief are descriptions of each other....
but atheists have the LACK of it, therefor the LACK of both words.
jassi4010709 3 years ago
@manuppowerup
u don't understand atheism..we look around, and we see no god. we hear no god. we feel no god. we smell no god and we taste no god. we only sense nature..yet, u say there is a god transcendent of nature.. so, we say, ok, provide direct evidence of this god, and we will believe. it's not that we claim there isn't a god, we just don't yet accept your claim that there is.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
I'll address the points one at at time:
Evolution not explaining how the universe created itself: Evolution doesn't deal with this, your argument is null.
The believe/disbelieve is just stupid semantics, and I think you know that. Disbelief can be lots of things, but not belief. What you're basically doing is muddying the waters by try to make Atheism look like a belief-system, this is a strawman.
Your arguments are basically just old Christian talking points that people zone out, sorry.
EikC 3 years ago
I shall quote the late great Douglas Adams in response to this: I do not believe there is no god, I am convinced there is no god. There simply isn't the evidence to say that he exists.
No one in their right mind would say that the universe created itself. The universe was once a singularity, which expanded. But as for where that came from, the only answer is that we don't really have a clue, and probably never will.
To refute that the universe created itself is a classic straw man fallacy.
paulbottomley42 3 years ago
Evidence isn't proof, you can't prove there's no God...It takes faith to believe the universe was once a singularity because you can't prove it. Plus you'll never be able to prove matter can just exist from nothing. So that's blind faith with no possibility of proof, and you admitted that fact. And I'm the one who believes in illogical things? I hate that strawman crap...people use it too often. I was only ruling out the possibility that the universe evolved from nothing.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Faith
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
Those are just two from the dictionary.
Like I said, you can't prove that God doesn't exist so you have faith that he doesn't.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
That's fine. You have faith that he doesn't because you can't prove he doesn't, that's all I'm trying to get across.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
I'm not a "Christian." Watch my video entitled "Is Religion Destructive?"
manuppowerup 3 years ago
You do realize the only thing you are proving is your own ignorance.
thequantumflux 3 years ago
In what way am I?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
By using a strawman argument, you really should learn what you're talking about, this is the third video where you talk out of your ass and use logical fallacies and strawmen to prove a point that is nothing more than a semantic argument to stroke your undeserved ego.
thequantumflux 3 years ago
I'm just assuming you call ever question you can't answer a strawman question. That's really annoying. I hate when people do that. They feel justified in not knowing the answer when they call it a strawman question. How about you show me a strawman question that I asked...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Disbelief isn't belief. Idiot.
BENY0HAMA 3 years ago 4
In germany we have a saying: if you don't know what you are talking about, just shut the fuck up.
Johannes9126 3 years ago
If I'm wrong...correct me.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
OK, I'm Agnostic... And the whole point of being Agnostic IS that you don't know what's going on, and are not about to guess!
Agnostic: a person who holds that the existence of God is unknown and unknowable and that human knowledge is limited to experience.
NightShadow1800 3 years ago
Your point being?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
"atheistis don't know what they believe, agnostics do"
LMFAO!
Dude, you are one funny motherfucker.
NermalsChannel 3 years ago
I thought I said I think they do...At least they're not claiming anything. They're just saying they don't know. That's better than saying you know, but have no proof for what you claim to know...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
You have no idea what you're talking about.
NermalsChannel 3 years ago
Whooooaaa! Way to rebut my statement...Great job!
manuppowerup 3 years ago
There is no need to refute incoherent babble, nor was it meant as a refutation.
I'm laughing at you because your clueless.
NermalsChannel 3 years ago
I believe the world is flat.
ronaldec7 3 years ago
Good for you...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
is it an *automatic* assumption that *santa* is real?
I do not believe that santa is real - no matter how strong people "believe" in him.
Want me to believe in santa? SHOW ME SANTA
Now ..... same applies to *any* of the thousands of gods men have made up over these thousands of years.
Time to "put up" or "shut up"
Where's Your God??? or Santa or Mermaids or Leprechauns ... ???
msginca 3 years ago
YOU are the one claiming god is real!
Fine ... show me a "REAL GOD"
Any god will due ... (you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath while I wait for you to produce "God")
msginca 3 years ago
I can't prove anything to you, if you want to know you'll find out for yourself. I've already said no one can prove or disprove the existence of God...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
I've already said no one can prove or disprove the existence of God.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
No one can disprove santa, or mermaids
msginca 3 years ago
Point being?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
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If you cut yourself -- you bleed
The blood dries making a natural bandage covering the cut till it heals.
This is an evolutionary protection mechanism for the human body.
There is also an evolutionary protection mechanism for the human mind. "Belief" is a bandage for the human mind when it experiences discomfort.
All humans that have ever lived have had special neural circuitry in the temporal part of the frontal lobe that kicks in when that person experiences trauma.
msginca 3 years ago 3
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No one has ever shown god, but they might kill you over it, they'll kill blacks over it, gays, people that worship a different god ... indeed, mothers have drown their own children. That's how important this bandage is, that's how much power this bandage has on the human mind.
msginca 3 years ago
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Now ... to see how powerful, try and stop believing, ... most people can't ... or many say they feel fear at being alone in this giant universe. God fixes anything people can't deal with.
I hope this was helpful. Good luck to you!
msginca 3 years ago
How does this prove or disprove anything?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Band-aids prove evolutionary protection mechanism exist. If you get cut, you put on a band-aid and it heals up. This is EVOLUTIONARY protection mechanism.
arpee9216 3 years ago
No that's just sanitary, hygienic, and common sense. If you cut yourself, cover it up so it doesn't get infected. You people like to claim everything for evolution. By your logic, the transition from Geo Prism to Ferrari shows evolution because Ferrari's drive better. Every little human behavior doesn't show evolution.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
No, it's a learned response. Theoretically, if humanity has "band aids" long enough, we could concieve of this becoming a natural response. As a tool using species this could be considered a form of intellectual evolution, no?
jesuriah 3 years ago
Basically what you're saying is you're assuming this. You're saying this could have happened in theory, which would make it a belief since you can't prove it...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Band-aids only prove that when you get cut you have something to put over it to help it not get infected. If you say anything else about it you're just assuming it because you can't prove it.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Watch my video entitled "Is Religion Dangerous?" I've already stated all of this...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
You can not claim that's evolution...I can just as easily say that's creation. If that's the case then, when the first men got cut they should have bled to death seeing as how that mechanism would have been majorly undeveloped and premature...You have to do better than that...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
manuppowerup says-
"when the first men got cut they should have bled to death seeing as how that mechanism would have been majorly undeveloped and premature"
The above conclusion is 100% incorrect ... go and study where humans came from ... then get back to me. You can't discuss algebra with someone who has no clue that 2 + 2 = 4
either that OR, you're just trying to get attention.
msginca 3 years ago
I can claim that evolution did things because there is actual evidence to back up my claims. Based on EVIDENCE I draw a rational conclusion.
If an activity has been performed by members of a community for long enough, it can become instinct, look at bird migration.
Mammals have agents in their blood that causes clots.
So basically you're saying "Arguments from ignorance FTW!".
Please educate yourself before you try to influence others.
jesuriah 3 years ago
It's funny when people say "educate yourself," what people really mean is believe what I believe...Oh and evidence isn't proof...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Actually, when I tell people to educate themselves I really mean it. You can't just read one side. I did that for years, and I was a creationist. About 20 years ago I started educating myself about science and logic and I have come to some conclusions. You might come to different conclusions but at the very least you would be able to intelligently discuss the subject matter. Right now you are just showing your ignorance by vehemently defending a position you don't even understand.
atheistliberty 3 years ago
Yea...you're telling me to believe what you believe. That's all I wanted to know.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
"Point being?" Point being that Santa and mermaids are just as real as god. In other words, not real at all.
indignant99 3 years ago 2
You can't prove that they don't exist so...what else?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
geee ... you must be the smartest person in the whole childish world. By all of your above standards, I also can't prove gravity, ... and since that's the case ... you can go walk off of a cliff, and maybe you'll finally get the point (that keeps eluding you) In the meantime, if you can't walk off a cliff ... Then you DO get the point.
In the mean time ... ain't it fun to play people!
You is so cool!
msginca 3 years ago
You can't prove that something "doesn't" exist, you can only prove that something does.
arpee9216 3 years ago
You actually can. If I say there's a little man the size of two inches in this orange, then I give you the orange. All you have to do is open it and if you don't find the little man, then you proved that something doesn't exist...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
"You can't prove that they don't exist so...what else?"
Hypocrite?
"It's funny when people say "educate yourself," what people really mean is believe what I believe...Oh and evidence isn't proof..."
Evidence is proof, what is a better proof than evidence? Do you like to eat paint chips?
jesuriah 3 years ago
If evidence was proof then evidence would be called proof...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
I put a link in the description. I don't feel like typing it, just watch that video.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
OK so they have a belief.
They belive there is no God.
Case closed.
I don't know where all this came from and niether do you or anyone. Can you prove creationism with out the use of the Bible?
ronaldec7 3 years ago
youve just got up so I can forgive your rather week argument...
Elcristoph 3 years ago
Wow, you couldn't reason yourself out of a paper bag. This video was utter nonsense from start to finish. Not believing = belief? Sorry, you fail. Try again.
merchickety 3 years ago 2
If you don't "believe" that God exists, do you know?
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Do you know?
ronaldec7 3 years ago
no...
manuppowerup 3 years ago
Which God are you referring to? There are over thousands of gods that people worship or worshiped around the world.
arpee9216 3 years ago
I quote scripture out of this book, I talk about events in it...but you can't an educated guess? This question did not need to be asked.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
You "believe" there's no God...Sorry, I don't need to try again.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
No, I just don't accept the claim.
merchickety 3 years ago
...It's still a belief...Quit trying to get out of it. It's not that big of a deal..
manuppowerup 3 years ago
take a logic class. That's all I can really suggest to help you out.
nadiaTeeze 3 years ago 3
Yeah, its like they have taken Socrates 101 and just fail that class. The line of logic with the "if this" , "than that" needs a little work.
ronaldec7 3 years ago
Any claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
It is as much a belief as that there is no santa or easter bunny.
nadiaTeeze 3 years ago 2
That 'ol neural circuitry in the temporal part of the frontal lobe has been switched on for this guys whole life. Complete inability to reason, even simple reasoning. Very Sad.
msginca 3 years ago
Can we provide evidence of God?
Please don't use the Bible to prove the Bible.
ronaldec7 3 years ago
Can we provide evidence for natural selection? Some things take faith.
manuppowerup 3 years ago
If natural selection was not out there we wouldn't have viruses with multiple antibiotic resistance.
To you provide evidence against you would have to show that 1. all the population on earth have no genetic variety 2. The populations do not breed in a way to promote variety. (sex not asexual) 3. one design type is never better suited to an enviroment then another (long thick coats at the poles vs short thin)
That just a few bits of evidence we have. No faith. No bullshit. science.
nadiaTeeze 3 years ago
so you understand evidence for natural selection is
1. the variety in the genetics of breeding populations
2. sexual reproduction
3. variety of environment those meaning a variety of designs are suited for different areas.
This my evidence for natural selection. Present yours for god.
nadiaTeeze 3 years ago