The word "unnatural" is most often a euphemistic stand-in for; "something I don't like"... Especially when considering religion. In the real world, "unnatural" is only "unusual" or "uncommon". As an applicable term, it's quite literally impossible for this word to exist outside of anthropocentrism.
The only natural law in the universe is that if something can happen, it will happen. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is a fool.
@choongd Your long lost ancestor probably came from some stupid primitive desert tribe. Or forest tribe. Or plains tribe. Or tundra tribe. Or some other equally "stupid and primitive" culture. Our culture didn't just suddenly appear.
So at the end of this...I realize.. I got mad, I became weak, I did exactly what I want others not to do...
But that's ok, we're human, or whatever we are, it's us. And there's something SO BEAUTIFUL about how fucked up we are. And we don't need to worry about being forgiven because... if there is something out there...it didn't hold it against us in the first place.
Because it's better than we are...and some day..we'll be better too.
But.. at the end of the day...none of that matters. Because when I wake in the morning, !- I - ! decide to either make the world better than it was yesterday...or I don't.
But we're still trying to figure it out. The whole of it is not found in the bible, or the koran, or the vedas or in what ever.
It inspired "judge not lest ye be judged" and " God is love and he who lives in love lives in god and god in him" as well as the song of Solomon, and the "transcendental truth"
You know what brothers...I do think there's something out there. Something Beautiful, something loving, something which flows, like water, though the very heart of us all.
You quote the bible, a book which says that the creator of all that is... kills children, OFTEN. Which says that, knowing full well the result of his actions, created a being ignorant, but some how possessed of free will, and at the same fucking time created a being who was the "Anointed Cherubim" whom he favored above all else, who some how managed to betray this all knowing god and is now set on destroying our race. REALLY?
Honestly, I understand that. I want more than anything to have SOME reason to believe that the suffering in the world I see...EVERY FUCKING day... has some purpose... to believe that there is something better..something more, something which would make all this shit make sense.
So first of all you assume that the bible (literally "the book", not unlike "the pill") is anything more than a collection of tribal mythos. You seem to assert that this collection of fables, collected several hundred years after the death of the presumed "god" or "son of god" or " triple god who is one" walked the earth is some how preserved as as message from the "creator" . You assert 1st, that the bible is true, and then draw all reasonable conclusions from that assumption.
So evidently I've left this far too long without refute and it's become the dumping ground for the desperate and the ill informed. I apologize to the rational for leaving a "Jerry Springer" forum.
Romans 1:27 "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the "DUE PENALTY" for their perversion."
1.How many of these animals caught AIDS?
2.Is it o.k. to eat your young like animals?
these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, like beasts they too will perish.2 Peter 2:12
They're animals. They don't know what they're doing. Most of the time when an animal mounts the same sex, it's out of dominance and slow minded fuck heads instantly think "Oh my god they're homo!" and this doesn't "prove" anything in human homo acts and if they use this as an excuse, then they're as stupid as the mindless animals they compare themselves to. There's nothing "natural" about it. God people these days..
And I'm supposed to believe you that you're not "one of those people"? Yeah whatever girl. You're a stranger, so for all I know you're just a big dirty lie. :P
and *LOUD SIGH*
Must I really define every word you use?, since you obviously don't know their meaning?
All you are doing is using synonyms and sugar-coating your ignorant bigotry. "Believing what they do is wrong" is an incredibly close-minded and bigoted statement. It implies you don't accept that their love is real, when it infact is.
homosexuality isnt a choice, its in the genes. personally i dont see why its a problem to some people. best to be who you are than be a person that someone else wants you to be.
my mum is a homophobe. she said that if i was a lesbian or even bi she'd "fix" me. she need to get laid!
I Corinthians 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Ppl who use the argument that other animals display homosexual behavior to prove that it's natural or okay are really reaching for validation. Other animals do not have free will like humans, and are slaves to their instincts. Their so-called "same sex" sexual behavior is not about attraction, but about establishing dominance or who the alpha is in their pecking order. They don't only fight to do that. That is all
@funk7000 You idiot. Homosexuality is just like heterosexuality as in its consensual sex/love between two people (or animals). Stray away from the falsity of the bible.
What are you trying to say idiot.? Animal commit all those " natural" acts and most people find that abhorrent but this vid uses 1 animal acts to say homosexuality in natural? I dont think so!! . . Your comment make no sense so ill point it back at you.
@DVRblur What the fuck are you talking about? Who ever said animal's natural acts were abhorrent? I certainly never said that. Animals kill other animals to eat, to SURVIVE. So do humans. There is nothing horrible in that and it is completely natural, and the same goes for homosexuality. Think before posting, simpleton.
@Shrtcat read my posts again. I never said homosexual acts are abhorrent.. what I am saying(and make sure you read this very carefully) is that, to say "because animals do it its OK for humans" is a load of crap. Animals eat their own young if it suits them. Is it OK with you if I eat my daughter?
Natural acts are not necessarily MORALLY OK acts. Monkeys commit homosexual acts and you say "it's completely natural" as you think it justifies YOUR moral choices but they also eat other monkeys.
@DVRblur Um, how about YOU read MY posts again? I'll quote it for you.
"Who ever said animal's natural acts were abhorrent?" That is exactly what I said, I was referring to GENERAL acts of animals, not homosexuality is particular, but it does include that.
You are clearly ignorant, absolute morality does not exist, I think I learned that in grade 10. There is no "Black and White, right or wrong" Everything is a big ethical question and everything depends on the context.
shut the fuck up nature does not show it homosexualls are disgusting buthey they have the right dont try to make look any less disgusting through animals cuz nature does not show it only faggot ass humans do
@Shrtcat no YOU are mentally retarded how r u gunna tell me that these animals are homos just because they need to stick together to survive? not for sexuall interest u dumbfuck and you are telling me to go to school? go ask your teacher he will smack you upside the head that's IF you go to school
@amhur Stick together to survive? What on fuck's earth are you talking about? You talk like a hillbilly i cant understand anything you say?
You call one animal sticking its dick up another animals ass survival? NO, because sex isnt just about reproduction it's for showing love and bonds. Tons of scientific research has been done on this regard. I dare you to Google it.
And for your information, I am a university student and I take sexology and psychology, I learn about this. You are in primary.
@Shrtcat dont lie you have never seen them stick it up just because they got on top of each other, and yeah stick together to survive their wild animals dumbfuck they got to stay together whatever you say, you know those animals are not gay its just a fact
@amhur DUDE, do you know how much butt sex bonobos have? And dolphins? Those two animals are the species with the most recorded acts of homosexual intercourse. Like it or not, I'm in university, and YOU never went to school and are not educated. I know a lot more than you do.
Stick together to survive? BY HUMPIMG EACHOTHER?
What you're saying makes no sense. Please shut up, you are embarassing yourself. Jesus.
@Shrtcat Cmon man its funny to me how hard gay people try to make it look natural lol it is not just deal with it, its only humans who do that kind of stuff just like all the things we do that animals don't There is a male and a female thats Nature and i know deep in your heart you believe it thats why you are still searching for more evidence because you are not satisfied. Homosexuality is nasty and unatural but you have your rights so im not trippin do whatever you like.
@amhur Um, I'm not even a gay man? I'm a straight woman, thank you. A smart one. Look, I presented my scientific proof, and you have NONE. The video is right in front of you, animals have butt sex get over it. Deep in my heart I know that you know i'm right but you choose to ignore my facts. Whatever, you're the one looking like a fool, not me, so I don't really care.
@Shrtcat oh so you want me to present you a bunch of animals having sex? lol is that what u want? the evidence is all around you but it's whatever and stop feeling all special just because you go to a university wtflol
@amhur What are you fucking talking about? Animals displaying homosexual acts are in this video, and I've seen countless more than this. The proof is right in front of YOU but you keep ignoring it like a fucking idiot. I don't feel "special", I just know that I'm a lot smarter than you , especially on this topic, and you are uneducated so you shouldn't be speaking. :P lol
@Shrtcat These pictures don't prove anything because a picture can always be misleading and you might be ahead of me I'm 18 and my second quarter in UW but just cause you are a little ahead dont make everything you say true but i think this isn't about true or false for you its about winning no matter what the facts are. Don't feel yourself too much just because you went to some University, you sound as ignorant as the people you call "hillbillies"
@amhur Pretty sure most of them are clips, and I've seen MANY VIDEO clips and documentaries on this. Scientific proof that you blindly ignore due to your blatant bigotry and unwillingness to accept that homosexuality isn't a sin/wrong. I'm just speaking the truth, and I find it hilarious that you are so stuck in your moronic ways to actually think you are right, when you clearly haven't even passed grade 5.
@Shrtcat well said "Ppl who use the argument that other animals display homosexual behavior to prove that it's natural or okay are really reaching for validation. Other animals do not have free will like humans, and are slaves to their instincts. Their so-called "same sex" sexual behavior is not about attraction, but about establishing dominance or who the alpha is in their pecking order. They don't only fight to do that. That is all" now go fuck yourself bitch
@amhur How do you even know what a teacher is? You can't even spell right?? lolll Step down, fool. I clearly am superior in intelligence to you. It's quite sad to hear you speak.
Okay, an animal shoves its penis up another animal's anus, so humans should do the same. Okay.
Animals shit and piss on the floor, eat from the floor, drink from the floor and kill each other. Should we do the same.
We're not animals. We're humans. Homoism is simply an urge, just like pedophilia and by gay logic, pedophilia should also be okay, as long as a child consents. Honestly, You can have a 10-foot cock up yours all you want, I don't care, but I'm simply going to disagree.
Yes, humans do commit cruelty far worse than animals, because the majority of us are worse than animals. We should avoid animalistic actions like homosexuality or murder for survival etc...
I'm not a homophobe. I actually have a bisexual friend. I just disagree with homosexuality and think its wrong. That doesn't make me homophobic. Its not like I fear gays or go around bashing them.
Do you know the amount of senseless animal murder humans commit for fur? and skin?
Do animals ? No they only kill to survive, for the meat, which is okay. -.- Moron.
Humans are no different from other animals, except we're a "little" bit smarter. I know that my gay best friend is passionately in love with his partner and they've been together for 5 years. That's not animalistic, I'd watch your words if I were you, you sound awfully ignorant.
@truebeliever786 And as for your bisexual "friend", I doubt he/she is actually your friend. Sure, you're not a homophobe, but you still are a close-minded bigot, no one likes that besides other close-minded bigots.
I'm not justifying the senseless murder done by humans, but that doesn't justify homosexuality at all. I'm not ignorant at all.
I'm just saying that animal-homosexuality doesn't justify homosexuality. If we want to be like animals, why not go live in the jungle and crap all over the floor. That's all just uncivilised and dirty.
The bisexual fellow is my friend. He's Jewish. Your doubts don't really matter, cause if you ask the guy, he'll tell you he's my friend. His name's Joel.
@truebeliever786 You used murder as another example, so yes you were trying to justify it. -.-
The whole point of what I'm saying (that you obviously don't seem to understand) is that animals do what is natural to them. They crap on the floor because they haven't been trained to go in specific spots and don't have toilets. (But can be trained, as with cats and dogs) What is natural is not "uncivilized and dirty", it's just that, natural. So you're whole argument is completely invalid, sorry.
@truebeliever786 As for your friend, I honestly don't care. He must be one hell of a nice guy to be friends with someone who "thinks his way of living is wrong". Either that or he's lost his marbles and is desperate for friends, and he obviously has better friends than you.
Don't assume anything about the guy, when you don't know jack about him or about me. Yes, he was and still is a very nice guy. He honestly did not have better friends than me. People always thought low of him and used to bully him about his sexual orientation mixed with his religion (Judaism). I didn't. I had a few jokes with him about his sexual orientation, but those were only jokes and he used to laugh at them. We were good friends.
@truebeliever786 He deserves a better friend than you, just saying. And for all I know, you coould just be making this up to made yourself seem credible and not homophobic, when in fact, you are.
@truebeliever786 Sorry dude... but humans ARE another species of animal. I know the human ego doesn't like admitting that, however.
And please don't use the tired argument I am comparing us to dogs. That would be every bit as silly as saying that I am equating dogs to cockroaches.
So yes: animal homosexuality DOES shed light on human homosexuality, especially when the chief argument is "it isn't natural". When nature itself disagrees, that argument seems pretty weak ;)
If you believe we are a form of animals, you can believe so but I do not. It is also our nature to have fun by making ourselves dirty, just like animals. Should we do that also?
I'm not saying I hate, detest or reject homosexuals. I'm just expressing my opinion, that it is wrong. I'm not a homophobe.
@truebeliever786 LOL wow, you don't believe humans to be a form of animals. That about sums up your intelligence right there, I'm not wasting my time arguing with you then, good day.
I could be making this up? If you don't believe me I don't give a crap, cause it makes no difference. The truth is the truth. What would I (an anonymous person) gain from making things up? Just tell me.
A homophobe is someone who has a fear of gay people, who hates them and who wants to bash them. That's not me. I just believe that their actions are wrong.
I don't have to believe that humans are a form of animals, to be intelligent. That's not very relevant to our discussion.
@truebeliever786 Yes you could be making this up, and I'll tell you why you would. You're saying that you're a nice person who has homosexual friends, but yet doesn't accept them as a whole. The truth is, you're an ignorant bigot. Homophobic, maybe no. But bigot, yes.
And yes, yes you do. Because last time I heard, there was scientific proof, and it was commonly accepted by the public as truth. It is so very relevant. You not seeing that makes you all the more ignorant. *sigh*
I could be making this up? Bullshit, I'm not making it up. The guy's name is Joel Pragnell (Angus Haushinka Pragnell on facebook). If you want proof, go ask the guy on facebook, if he is bisexual and is a friend of Hussain Tirmizi (me).
I'm not a bigot. I just disagree with homosexuality. How does that make me a bigot? I don't show any sign of intolerance to anyone. All I'm doing is disagreeing. I'm not going around cursing, condemning or bashing gays, now, am I?
@truebeliever786 HAHA It could easily just be a fake account. In any case, I don't give a rat's ass about your stupid friend. The point is "disagreeing" with homosexuality it a sugar-coated way of saying CLOSE-MINDED BIGOT. Stop making up lame excuses. At least you're not a full-blown basher, i'll give you that. But it's plain to see that you're just trying to give off the "nice-guy" impression, won't work on me unfortunetely.
hahahahah You think I'm sad enough to make a fake account and add like 600 friends just for an anonymous and annoying youtube user like yourself?
lol
I don't give a crap if you believe me or not and keep arguing like a stubborn prick. The fact is that he is my friend and he isn't exactly 'stupid'.
No, I'm not a bigot at all. I do not seek to kill or harm homosexuals. disagreeing with the idea and believing that homosexuality is wrong, does not make me a bigot.
@truebeliever786 Yeah who knows, there are some crazy people out there who have time to waste. And it could also easily be someone who you'll just pay 5$ to say that your his friend and spew out your story. Who knows eh.
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant and/or unaccepting of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of political views, different race, sexual orientation, religion, or gender.
You fall under this, being a bigot has nothing to do with killing.
ok, keep making conspiracy theories if you want, but i'm not those some people. there is no way i can convince you it seems, so why the hell would i bother?
the fact is that the guy is my friend. i know my own friend and i never lie to others.
i am not prejudiced or intolerant and unaccepting. i accept homosexuals for who they are, but i still believe that what they do is wrong. that does not make me a bigot nor does it make me a homophobe.
@Shrtcat Ok, I only just saw this because I am an ego maniac who searches his name on Google sometimes. Fake account? Stupid friend? I see more intolerance in you calling me stupid without reason than what Hussain says. I am definitely real and Hussain is a good friend of mine. He does not go around condemning homosexuality but disagrees with it as much as I disagree with modern music. I do not wish for Ke$ha to go to hell but I disagree with what she is doing. AND I AM REAL.
@Shrtcat Not fake. CHeck out my videos to see who I am. I don't like being called fake because of one skeptic who doesn't believe one of my friends. If you want proof, look my name up in Google. I have worked with youth services and been in our local paper...unlike Hussain. I am definately real and I think you'd be the idiotic one to be skeptical of my existance based on no evidence whatsoever that would give the impression that I do not exist.
@Cindercheth "Sorry" but it doesn't shed the least bit of light on humans. Animals are animals. They don't have self control. And some people wonder why homos are treated like mindless animals. Maybe because they try using this as evidence? Look more into animal dominance before labeling something "gay". I'm sure if the animals understood it, they wouldn't appreciate that.
@TheCrippledCrow OF COURSE IT DOES. Hmmm, maybe we should start "treating bigoted assholes like mindless animals"?
Look into evolution, dumbass. We can communicate, have opposable thumbs, and can manipulate our environment in ways they can not WOULD be the best answer, but the underlying fact remains: we're another species with the same basic needs. SO USE YOUR BRAIN, and quit acting "like a mindless animal".
@TheCrippledCrow By the way... maybe you shouldn't blame "the mindless animal homosexuals" for comparing humans to animals, since there are even gay people who would disagree, and there are even religious gay folk.
Place the blame where it's due, moron. Evolutionism.
I believe in God and I am bi sexual. If God didn't want homosexuality or bisexuality he would not have made them Now in all seriousness what the hell is the difference between I man being in love with another man and a man being in love with a women? To quote the book 'Will Grayson, Will Grayson'. "Well you know when you gay you put your penis in the place that they shit from" "Yeah but when your straight you put it in the place they pee and get their period"
@13sirius13snape He didn't make them. He made free will silly bitch. Thats like saying if god didn't want murderers or child molesters he shouldn't have made them. The point of a period is to procreate. The point of anus is to expel doo doo. Anal sex is very dangers to your health.
@SaltineCrackaAss Anal is not dangerous to your health! Where'd you get your information? Oh and very intellegent of you using the word doo doo. And I would appricate it if you didn't call me a bitch. Seriously I don't understand how there is a difference between a man being with a man and a man being with a women.
@13sirius13snape We preach that it causes an increased risk of prostate cancer. We stress that to our members of our church that suffer from the gay affliction.
Nobody cares what your miniscule little church preaches, you're just a blip on the radar my friend...you know there are 34000 different judeo-christian churches right?
@SaltineCrackaAss That's why at my church we preach against oral sex, anal sex, and masturbation. These things do NOT do what God intended sex to do and that's make babies.
...I'm really fucking struggling to keep in my rage here, my cousin is gay dickweed..I suppose he's going to burn in eternal hellfire for it, right?
It's really quite strange that an omnipotent celestial deity concerns himself with anal sex, by your logic: If my cousin was attracted NATURALLY to men, he should live a whole life on a lie & be with women even though both he and her would be miserable? Or should he just kill himself / live alone?
@mondaymorninbongtoke I read that book, too. That's the book that says I can sell my daughter into slavery, stone my neighbor to death next time I see him leaving for work on a Sunday morning, that I *must* sacrifice two turtles when I have my period, that it's okay for me to go get some people from Canada and make them my slaves (and beat them) and that women can't be teachers. It's a very silly book.
So all you're saying is that homosexual people are as smart as monkeys and other wildlife ^_^ thank you for being honest. Hetero is a way to go assholes!
@justinatencio You're joking right? If not, your stupidity is FUCKING scary. Teach animals who to fuck? Are you lacking oxygen? Or education maybe? Go read a fucking book PLEASE! For the progress of humankind's sake!
"Bad dog! That was a female dog! Come on! Now get aroused and hop your buddy! Thaaaat's it! cookie!!! Now let mi get the camera..."
This argument does not hold water. Evolution and survival of the fittest are commonly accepted today as rules of nature. How does being unable to reproduce help an organism? If an organism is homosexual, those genes end right there and then. How could homosexuality possibly be natural and something you are born with if it is impossible to pass down genetically? Keep in mind that rape is also common and "normal" in the animal kingdom but we don't call it "natural" or a "lifestyle choice".
When a species reaches a certain population density homosexual activity spikes. this has a population balancing effect.
When you say animals "rape", i think you are confused. With few exceptions, animals dont have sex for pleasure. What to you and I seems like rape, is really just normal courtship and mating.
Hello!!!! they are animals ! they kill each other eat each other they even kill humans thay are not real smart ok. Now what was that ?you want to do and act like animals do. ok so if animals are gay than you being gay means you are an animal, and that my friend is (NOT) natural
I do not mock you, nor do I claim to know it all. Evolution, bones, and all I know where you stand in your beliefs, and I respect them. I just do not believe in evolution.
For the believer no proof is necessary, for the unbeliever proof is impossible no matter which side your on. Peace.
@noel720104 For the believer no proof is necessary. That is why believers can say whatever they want and if they have "faith" then it's like they say it is. That is called IGNORANCE and to be obtuse in the head.
@noel720104 Don't humans kill each other and kill animals? Maybe we're not the ones who are smart. And technically we are animals...sooo...what's your point there?
Hello!!!! You are an animal ! Humans kill each other and some eat each other and us human animals do kill humans. ok so if we are gay then we being gay means that we are animals which IS natural?
Yup, if you add a little sense to what you commented.. well you make a LOAD sense there bud.
@Laranga1 PAY ATTENTION!!!!! One more time for the homosexual kid, oops !! my bad retarded kid!! Humans acting as animals is not natural got it? do you get it??
I am paying attention, no need to stress your caps lock. Oops! I'm sorry! Error of fact! Humans are animals. So humans acting like humans is not natural? I would act like a chair, you know, 'cause their not animals- but then people might fight on youtube about how I wasn't acting natural!
Look prissy, if you want to be an animal than more power to you. How about a monkey, or maybe you can be a donkey hmmm? Does baboon work for you, or dog ?? God made a distinction between humans, and animals ok.
Look missy, I have no "desire" to be an animal. There is no disadvantage, nor advantage (See you don't even have to worry about some slimy scum like me having "more power" x3) to wither or not we classify ourselves as animals. Name this distinction please, unless it's just a name. I could see why GOD wants his SPEICAL creations to feel SPEICAL because they have a SPEICAL NAME.
I am man, I have the ability to reason ... animals do not. I have the ability to Love, and understand it.... animals do not. I have a soul... animals do not. God is the master of man, and God made man the master of all animals.
Animals think. Humans have more cognitive ability then "animals", yes; but, animals still can think. Who is to say "animals" don't understand love? I think they can understand it just fine, you know, while their thinking. Aa.. soul. I'm fighting the topic of gay, not religion, so.
Man "masters" animals, because humans are generally smarter. Yes, they are at the top of the latter; but part of the latter they still are.
Well since you brought it up.... Your man part naturally should go into the woman part, no I did not say feces ejection tube. now this my friend is disgusting!! It is down right dirty. Now you can flip your little pinky upwards, and toss your pom poms on the ground all you want, but it is not going to make your gayness acceptable.
Since I brought it up? Sorry I thought you recognized the "Gay" part of the "Natural Gay Rights" video you where commenting on. I'm sorry, yet again; but, "because it ist natural" is not even enough of a thought to call a argument. Here, I'll give as much evidence to it as you just did. "Gayness is acceptable." Oop. Statements collide! I guess we actually have to back up our shit with proof now!
@noel720104 You mean that all the people who have oral sex are down right dirty too right? Because the man part is naturally supposed to go into the woman part, not in the food-injection tube! And the tongue is not supposed to go into the women part! The tongue is for eating and speaking right?!?!
Well, as you see, your theory has been completely discredited. What's more, I've proven that you don't use your neurones enough! Go do some philosophy and cultivate yourself.
@noel720104 If you want to argue give empirical rational proof because. "Animals don't have a soul" is your belief. Not a proof. So you can't base your argument on that. Basics of the scientific method. "God made man the master of all animals"????? What are you talking about? Do you realize there is no way you can proove that? Religion is poison. With it ignorant people can justify anything and everything.
@noel720104 If you think that sex can only be between a man and a woman, it means that the only purpose of sex is reproduction. So I hope you're not using condoms because that's "unnatural" right?
If you'd think a little more you'd see that sex is also for showing affection, creating strong bonds, for showing love, and for keeping a good health. SO THE GENDER HAS NOTHING TO DO THERE.
do u think its okay for humans to have sex with animals? Just a simple question I'm asking--nothing tricky, I just wanna see how you reason things out.
Well, considering animals don't have sex with animals of other species, only with animal of their own species, but they still have sex with the same gender, I think its pretty ok.
I don't think it's natural. I think they're just really horny. lol. But, we don't have a right to tell people how to live their lives, so whether it's natural or not, that whole argument is null.
awsome .. i loved your vid .... wish ppl would just leave what happens in the bedroom between two or more consenting adults ... in the bedroom who cares as long as no one is hurt ......
The point is: Even if homosexuality wouldn't be natural it would not make any difference that homophobia is the real s.c. 'disease'. Just because animals rape, murder, abandon their children if they are too weak and so on it does not mean we have the right to do likewise.
Society is not nature and we should be happy about that.
No only the false Christian God. There are many religions such as Hinduism, Shintoism, Vodou, my religion Collyridianism and others. It is only in primitive Bronze Age religions such as your own that deny that gayness is universal and acceptible. The fact is homosexuality is a universal biological orientation meant found in all species and meant to prevent over population. We have debunked your Christian lies on homosexuality just as we have on the heliocentric theory and evolution.
Yes and your god is merely the vile demon Baphomet the Demiurge and it is proven that your scirptures are wrong and are nothing more the primitive Bronze Age myths. Plus the facts are that homosexuality is a universal biological phenomena found in all species and meant to prevent overpopulation. Plus there are even all female all LESBIAN species which reproduce parthenogenically. You Christians usually never have an answer for this.
Yes when it is over we will see which God is ruling and it will be my God the One True God the Blessed Virgin Queen of Heaven. I will be at my ladies side in Heaven and you will be cast down to Hell with your lord Baphomet and forced to look on the eyes of his superior Ereshkigal the Queen of Hell.
Has there ever been a documented case where animals of the same sex had gay anal sex? I doubt there is allot of studies of male on male animals poking each other in the ass pipes with joy except humans.
Yes there are countless studies on male anal sex in the wild. Gay animals regulalry mount and have anal sex with one another. Though there are more ways to have sex and gay sex at that. You can have oral sex rubbing, many ways. Also straights have anal sex as well both human and animal. You like most homophobic chauvanists seem to focus with strange obsession on male gayness especially anal sex and ignore lesbianism in the wild or straight anal sex as well in the wild.
Is there any documented case of two cows or mammal eatin' each other out? K, sure some female cow may lick another female cows pussy, but they don't grab a stick and ram it up the other cows pussy.....
Yes there are documented cases of two cows and all mammals, and every other species groups. Whether they find two animals grabbing sticks and shoveing them up cow's vagina's dosen't matter. They still have sex with each other and dildo's are not the only way to have lesbian sex however to chauvanists I imagine that they would think so.
The easiest example is always Bonobos who regularly have oral sex and mutual masturbation between same sex partners. Dolphins are known to use their sonar to "buzz" each others vagina like a vibrator and male dolphins will insert their penises into each others blowholes.
Because gayness is neither a sin nor wrong. I am sorry what bullshit you have been fed in your primitive bronze age religions but homosexuality is in every species and is a natural biological orientation meant to prevent overpopulation. There are even all female all LESBIAn species that reproduce parthenogenically. Also what constiutes right and wrong is what hurts others. Gayness hurts no one in fact it helps all species. You have no rational reason to hate it except for your false religion.
Plus if you knew an ounce about your religion you would know that animals can not commit sin as they are not sentient. Also neither can retarded or mentally challenged people. Plus the Blessed Virgin Mary was sinless as well in Christianity.
if you are the type of person who loves sex in any kind of way (ie: sexualy active) then you will do anything to pleasure yourself .. now that is a fact! the money is just there as an incentive. duhh please understand the concept behind what i say.. not just what you read..and once again please go with that argurment on tv or youtube and say to the gay community their are in the list of population control,along with death,sickness,and deformation, and lets see what happens
No I love sex only in specific ways. Just because someone is sexually active does not meant that they have no sexual standards. No that is not a fact people will not do just anything to sexually satisfy themselves. Most people have control and keep their sexuality in their private lives. Next money is not an incentive if money is used it is prostitution!
im sure you do have standard but you dont speak for the whole human race. really is not a fact! get real.. welcome to the real world the material world yes moeny is an incentive at the right time and place...now most people have control of their sexuality? so tell me what about the rest what do they do?
I speak for the whole human race because I speak of facts and reason. Yes homosexuality being used to prevent overpopulation is a fact and it is also a fact that it hurts no one. It seems that you need to get to the real world. Also no one would have sex for money unless they were poor or prostitutes. Yes most people have control of their sexuality and so long as it hurts no one it is fine. If you wish to find out about various things people do either google it or ask your parents!
Next gay people are in every species to prevent death, sickness, and deformation by reducing the numbers of kids born in the world and as parents to those who do not have parents. It allows us to restric the flow of children. Also all of these things are harmful homosexuality does none of these things and serves as a mechanism to prevent these bad things. I will go n on a video and say this if I can because it is a fact!
yeah please go with that video.. it may help your fight against your cause rembmer to print everything we talked and ask questions ... the best law of man is when two points of view are met and make logical decisions.
I don't need this video to fight for my cause. I have the weath of scientists, biologists, historians, athropoligists, psychologists and people of reason and logic all over to do this. I have facts and reason and you have deranged paranoia. Next only the point of view of reason matters. Ayn Rand said that there are 2 sides of the story the right one and the wrong one and comprimising one with the other is the same as comprimising food with poison.
ohh do it like the discovery channel just cause animals do it hhmm . so maybe we should start preying /killing without accountability like them dont you think! obviously not right? well we are different since we have reasoning/and think logical THEY DON'T so convincing people with this uneducated video just is sad!
What is with Christians and basic logic and science! The difference with killing and preying without accountability is that it harms the species and it harms individuals. Though we do prey on other species and that is acceptable. Homosexuality is a universal and natural orientation found in every species to prevent overpopulation. It onlu helps species and it hurts no one so it should be accepted.
we are the only species that kill for pleasure ! and can continue killing just because. those who prey on other species unjustified do get stopped by others whom are concern. if homosexuality want to be accepted they must agree its a birth defect. but using that wlll create hate. i do agree its in the list of the other decease to where is meant to prevent overpopulation/death etc. but the question is what will it lead!not having children hmm how would u feel about life!
Ok first of all yeah we are the only species that kills for pleasure. We are also the only species which has anyform of advancement in technology and sentient life. Next there is nothing wrong with preying on other species. Animals eat other animals and I am a meat eater.
The word "unnatural" is most often a euphemistic stand-in for; "something I don't like"... Especially when considering religion. In the real world, "unnatural" is only "unusual" or "uncommon". As an applicable term, it's quite literally impossible for this word to exist outside of anthropocentrism.
The only natural law in the universe is that if something can happen, it will happen. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is a fool.
honorific88 4 months ago
dumb ilustration
8889ification 6 months ago
@8889ification go duck your self
HumanityIsEvil 2 months ago
You know what is not natural? Stupid primitive desert tribe religions.
choongd 8 months ago in playlist Bible Bullshit
@choongd Your long lost ancestor probably came from some stupid primitive desert tribe. Or forest tribe. Or plains tribe. Or tundra tribe. Or some other equally "stupid and primitive" culture. Our culture didn't just suddenly appear.
PredatorHuntress666 3 months ago
So at the end of this...I realize.. I got mad, I became weak, I did exactly what I want others not to do...
But that's ok, we're human, or whatever we are, it's us. And there's something SO BEAUTIFUL about how fucked up we are. And we don't need to worry about being forgiven because... if there is something out there...it didn't hold it against us in the first place.
Because it's better than we are...and some day..we'll be better too.
Triskil 8 months ago
But.. at the end of the day...none of that matters. Because when I wake in the morning, !- I - ! decide to either make the world better than it was yesterday...or I don't.
I decide to love, or not.
I decide to forgive, or not.
I decide to try, or not.
Triskil 8 months ago
But we're still trying to figure it out. The whole of it is not found in the bible, or the koran, or the vedas or in what ever.
It inspired "judge not lest ye be judged" and " God is love and he who lives in love lives in god and god in him" as well as the song of Solomon, and the "transcendental truth"
Triskil 8 months ago
You know what brothers...I do think there's something out there. Something Beautiful, something loving, something which flows, like water, though the very heart of us all.
Triskil 8 months ago
You quote the bible, a book which says that the creator of all that is... kills children, OFTEN. Which says that, knowing full well the result of his actions, created a being ignorant, but some how possessed of free will, and at the same fucking time created a being who was the "Anointed Cherubim" whom he favored above all else, who some how managed to betray this all knowing god and is now set on destroying our race. REALLY?
Triskil 8 months ago
Honestly, I understand that. I want more than anything to have SOME reason to believe that the suffering in the world I see...EVERY FUCKING day... has some purpose... to believe that there is something better..something more, something which would make all this shit make sense.
Triskil 8 months ago
So first of all you assume that the bible (literally "the book", not unlike "the pill") is anything more than a collection of tribal mythos. You seem to assert that this collection of fables, collected several hundred years after the death of the presumed "god" or "son of god" or " triple god who is one" walked the earth is some how preserved as as message from the "creator" . You assert 1st, that the bible is true, and then draw all reasonable conclusions from that assumption.
Triskil 8 months ago
So evidently I've left this far too long without refute and it's become the dumping ground for the desperate and the ill informed. I apologize to the rational for leaving a "Jerry Springer" forum.
Triskil 8 months ago
WARNING!!!!!
RANT FORTHCOMING!!!
Triskil 8 months ago
Romans 1:27 "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the "DUE PENALTY" for their perversion."
1.How many of these animals caught AIDS?
2.Is it o.k. to eat your young like animals?
these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, like beasts they too will perish.2 Peter 2:12
detroitthebaptist 8 months ago
They're animals. They don't know what they're doing. Most of the time when an animal mounts the same sex, it's out of dominance and slow minded fuck heads instantly think "Oh my god they're homo!" and this doesn't "prove" anything in human homo acts and if they use this as an excuse, then they're as stupid as the mindless animals they compare themselves to. There's nothing "natural" about it. God people these days..
TheCrippledCrow 10 months ago
And I'm supposed to believe you that you're not "one of those people"? Yeah whatever girl. You're a stranger, so for all I know you're just a big dirty lie. :P
and *LOUD SIGH*
Must I really define every word you use?, since you obviously don't know their meaning?
All you are doing is using synonyms and sugar-coating your ignorant bigotry. "Believing what they do is wrong" is an incredibly close-minded and bigoted statement. It implies you don't accept that their love is real, when it infact is.
Shrtcat 11 months ago
homosexuality isnt a choice, its in the genes. personally i dont see why its a problem to some people. best to be who you are than be a person that someone else wants you to be.
my mum is a homophobe. she said that if i was a lesbian or even bi she'd "fix" me. she need to get laid!
DemonShadowification 1 year ago
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I Corinthians 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Godpleaser77 1 year ago
Animals eat da poo poo... they really do.
Lets do that too then!
sitdownstandup91 1 year ago
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bianconiglio427 1 year ago
Ppl who use the argument that other animals display homosexual behavior to prove that it's natural or okay are really reaching for validation. Other animals do not have free will like humans, and are slaves to their instincts. Their so-called "same sex" sexual behavior is not about attraction, but about establishing dominance or who the alpha is in their pecking order. They don't only fight to do that. That is all
funk7000 1 year ago
@funk7000 Now: how many times do you have masturbation? And don't lie to yourself.
bianconiglio427 1 year ago
@funk7000 You idiot. Homosexuality is just like heterosexuality as in its consensual sex/love between two people (or animals). Stray away from the falsity of the bible.
neptuniumforest 1 year ago
So then because some animals are gay it's natural and OK for Humans?
Then Incest, rape and murder are OK then too huh?
DVRblur 1 year ago
@DVRblur Yeah because animals commit incest, rape and murder, by your logic?
nice fuckup, you fuckup.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat
What are you trying to say idiot.? Animal commit all those " natural" acts and most people find that abhorrent but this vid uses 1 animal acts to say homosexuality in natural? I dont think so!! . . Your comment make no sense so ill point it back at you.
DVRblur 1 year ago
@DVRblur What the fuck are you talking about? Who ever said animal's natural acts were abhorrent? I certainly never said that. Animals kill other animals to eat, to SURVIVE. So do humans. There is nothing horrible in that and it is completely natural, and the same goes for homosexuality. Think before posting, simpleton.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat read my posts again. I never said homosexual acts are abhorrent.. what I am saying(and make sure you read this very carefully) is that, to say "because animals do it its OK for humans" is a load of crap. Animals eat their own young if it suits them. Is it OK with you if I eat my daughter?
Natural acts are not necessarily MORALLY OK acts. Monkeys commit homosexual acts and you say "it's completely natural" as you think it justifies YOUR moral choices but they also eat other monkeys.
DVRblur 1 year ago
@DVRblur Um, how about YOU read MY posts again? I'll quote it for you.
"Who ever said animal's natural acts were abhorrent?" That is exactly what I said, I was referring to GENERAL acts of animals, not homosexuality is particular, but it does include that.
You are clearly ignorant, absolute morality does not exist, I think I learned that in grade 10. There is no "Black and White, right or wrong" Everything is a big ethical question and everything depends on the context.
Shrtcat 11 months ago
shut the fuck up nature does not show it homosexualls are disgusting buthey they have the right dont try to make look any less disgusting through animals cuz nature does not show it only faggot ass humans do
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur Are you seriously mentally retarded? Did you not watch the fucking video? Are you a hillbilly that doesnt go to school?
The answer to all of the above questions is yes. have a nice day SIR.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat no YOU are mentally retarded how r u gunna tell me that these animals are homos just because they need to stick together to survive? not for sexuall interest u dumbfuck and you are telling me to go to school? go ask your teacher he will smack you upside the head that's IF you go to school
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur Stick together to survive? What on fuck's earth are you talking about? You talk like a hillbilly i cant understand anything you say?
You call one animal sticking its dick up another animals ass survival? NO, because sex isnt just about reproduction it's for showing love and bonds. Tons of scientific research has been done on this regard. I dare you to Google it.
And for your information, I am a university student and I take sexology and psychology, I learn about this. You are in primary.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat dont lie you have never seen them stick it up just because they got on top of each other, and yeah stick together to survive their wild animals dumbfuck they got to stay together whatever you say, you know those animals are not gay its just a fact
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur DUDE, do you know how much butt sex bonobos have? And dolphins? Those two animals are the species with the most recorded acts of homosexual intercourse. Like it or not, I'm in university, and YOU never went to school and are not educated. I know a lot more than you do.
Stick together to survive? BY HUMPIMG EACHOTHER?
What you're saying makes no sense. Please shut up, you are embarassing yourself. Jesus.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat Cmon man its funny to me how hard gay people try to make it look natural lol it is not just deal with it, its only humans who do that kind of stuff just like all the things we do that animals don't There is a male and a female thats Nature and i know deep in your heart you believe it thats why you are still searching for more evidence because you are not satisfied. Homosexuality is nasty and unatural but you have your rights so im not trippin do whatever you like.
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur Um, I'm not even a gay man? I'm a straight woman, thank you. A smart one. Look, I presented my scientific proof, and you have NONE. The video is right in front of you, animals have butt sex get over it. Deep in my heart I know that you know i'm right but you choose to ignore my facts. Whatever, you're the one looking like a fool, not me, so I don't really care.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat oh so you want me to present you a bunch of animals having sex? lol is that what u want? the evidence is all around you but it's whatever and stop feeling all special just because you go to a university wtflol
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur What are you fucking talking about? Animals displaying homosexual acts are in this video, and I've seen countless more than this. The proof is right in front of YOU but you keep ignoring it like a fucking idiot. I don't feel "special", I just know that I'm a lot smarter than you , especially on this topic, and you are uneducated so you shouldn't be speaking. :P lol
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat These pictures don't prove anything because a picture can always be misleading and you might be ahead of me I'm 18 and my second quarter in UW but just cause you are a little ahead dont make everything you say true but i think this isn't about true or false for you its about winning no matter what the facts are. Don't feel yourself too much just because you went to some University, you sound as ignorant as the people you call "hillbillies"
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur Pretty sure most of them are clips, and I've seen MANY VIDEO clips and documentaries on this. Scientific proof that you blindly ignore due to your blatant bigotry and unwillingness to accept that homosexuality isn't a sin/wrong. I'm just speaking the truth, and I find it hilarious that you are so stuck in your moronic ways to actually think you are right, when you clearly haven't even passed grade 5.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
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@Shrtcat well said "Ppl who use the argument that other animals display homosexual behavior to prove that it's natural or okay are really reaching for validation. Other animals do not have free will like humans, and are slaves to their instincts. Their so-called "same sex" sexual behavior is not about attraction, but about establishing dominance or who the alpha is in their pecking order. They don't only fight to do that. That is all" now go fuck yourself bitch
amhur 1 year ago
@amhur Moreover, look at all the related videos of this one, if this one isn't enough.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@amhur How do you even know what a teacher is? You can't even spell right?? lolll Step down, fool. I clearly am superior in intelligence to you. It's quite sad to hear you speak.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
Okay, an animal shoves its penis up another animal's anus, so humans should do the same. Okay.
Animals shit and piss on the floor, eat from the floor, drink from the floor and kill each other. Should we do the same.
We're not animals. We're humans. Homoism is simply an urge, just like pedophilia and by gay logic, pedophilia should also be okay, as long as a child consents. Honestly, You can have a 10-foot cock up yours all you want, I don't care, but I'm simply going to disagree.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 Humans commit cruelty FAR worse than any animal, animals only kill to survive.
You are such a fucking idiot.
Pedophilia isn't consensual.
People like you make me cry for the future of humanity.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat
Yes, humans do commit cruelty far worse than animals, because the majority of us are worse than animals. We should avoid animalistic actions like homosexuality or murder for survival etc...
I'm not a homophobe. I actually have a bisexual friend. I just disagree with homosexuality and think its wrong. That doesn't make me homophobic. Its not like I fear gays or go around bashing them.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 Um, you just proved me right?
Do you know the amount of senseless animal murder humans commit for fur? and skin?
Do animals ? No they only kill to survive, for the meat, which is okay. -.- Moron.
Humans are no different from other animals, except we're a "little" bit smarter. I know that my gay best friend is passionately in love with his partner and they've been together for 5 years. That's not animalistic, I'd watch your words if I were you, you sound awfully ignorant.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 And as for your bisexual "friend", I doubt he/she is actually your friend. Sure, you're not a homophobe, but you still are a close-minded bigot, no one likes that besides other close-minded bigots.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat
I'm not justifying the senseless murder done by humans, but that doesn't justify homosexuality at all. I'm not ignorant at all.
I'm just saying that animal-homosexuality doesn't justify homosexuality. If we want to be like animals, why not go live in the jungle and crap all over the floor. That's all just uncivilised and dirty.
The bisexual fellow is my friend. He's Jewish. Your doubts don't really matter, cause if you ask the guy, he'll tell you he's my friend. His name's Joel.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 You used murder as another example, so yes you were trying to justify it. -.-
The whole point of what I'm saying (that you obviously don't seem to understand) is that animals do what is natural to them. They crap on the floor because they haven't been trained to go in specific spots and don't have toilets. (But can be trained, as with cats and dogs) What is natural is not "uncivilized and dirty", it's just that, natural. So you're whole argument is completely invalid, sorry.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 As for your friend, I honestly don't care. He must be one hell of a nice guy to be friends with someone who "thinks his way of living is wrong". Either that or he's lost his marbles and is desperate for friends, and he obviously has better friends than you.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat
Don't assume anything about the guy, when you don't know jack about him or about me. Yes, he was and still is a very nice guy. He honestly did not have better friends than me. People always thought low of him and used to bully him about his sexual orientation mixed with his religion (Judaism). I didn't. I had a few jokes with him about his sexual orientation, but those were only jokes and he used to laugh at them. We were good friends.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 He deserves a better friend than you, just saying. And for all I know, you coould just be making this up to made yourself seem credible and not homophobic, when in fact, you are.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 Sorry dude... but humans ARE another species of animal. I know the human ego doesn't like admitting that, however.
And please don't use the tired argument I am comparing us to dogs. That would be every bit as silly as saying that I am equating dogs to cockroaches.
So yes: animal homosexuality DOES shed light on human homosexuality, especially when the chief argument is "it isn't natural". When nature itself disagrees, that argument seems pretty weak ;)
Cindercheth 1 year ago
@Cindercheth
If you believe we are a form of animals, you can believe so but I do not. It is also our nature to have fun by making ourselves dirty, just like animals. Should we do that also?
I'm not saying I hate, detest or reject homosexuals. I'm just expressing my opinion, that it is wrong. I'm not a homophobe.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 LOL wow, you don't believe humans to be a form of animals. That about sums up your intelligence right there, I'm not wasting my time arguing with you then, good day.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
I could be making this up? If you don't believe me I don't give a crap, cause it makes no difference. The truth is the truth. What would I (an anonymous person) gain from making things up? Just tell me.
A homophobe is someone who has a fear of gay people, who hates them and who wants to bash them. That's not me. I just believe that their actions are wrong.
I don't have to believe that humans are a form of animals, to be intelligent. That's not very relevant to our discussion.
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 Yes you could be making this up, and I'll tell you why you would. You're saying that you're a nice person who has homosexual friends, but yet doesn't accept them as a whole. The truth is, you're an ignorant bigot. Homophobic, maybe no. But bigot, yes.
And yes, yes you do. Because last time I heard, there was scientific proof, and it was commonly accepted by the public as truth. It is so very relevant. You not seeing that makes you all the more ignorant. *sigh*
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@Shrtcat
I could be making this up? Bullshit, I'm not making it up. The guy's name is Joel Pragnell (Angus Haushinka Pragnell on facebook). If you want proof, go ask the guy on facebook, if he is bisexual and is a friend of Hussain Tirmizi (me).
I'm not a bigot. I just disagree with homosexuality. How does that make me a bigot? I don't show any sign of intolerance to anyone. All I'm doing is disagreeing. I'm not going around cursing, condemning or bashing gays, now, am I?
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 HAHA It could easily just be a fake account. In any case, I don't give a rat's ass about your stupid friend. The point is "disagreeing" with homosexuality it a sugar-coated way of saying CLOSE-MINDED BIGOT. Stop making up lame excuses. At least you're not a full-blown basher, i'll give you that. But it's plain to see that you're just trying to give off the "nice-guy" impression, won't work on me unfortunetely.
Shrtcat 11 months ago
hahahahah You think I'm sad enough to make a fake account and add like 600 friends just for an anonymous and annoying youtube user like yourself?
lol
I don't give a crap if you believe me or not and keep arguing like a stubborn prick. The fact is that he is my friend and he isn't exactly 'stupid'.
No, I'm not a bigot at all. I do not seek to kill or harm homosexuals. disagreeing with the idea and believing that homosexuality is wrong, does not make me a bigot.
truebeliever786 11 months ago
@truebeliever786 Yeah who knows, there are some crazy people out there who have time to waste. And it could also easily be someone who you'll just pay 5$ to say that your his friend and spew out your story. Who knows eh.
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant and/or unaccepting of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of political views, different race, sexual orientation, religion, or gender.
You fall under this, being a bigot has nothing to do with killing.
Shrtcat 11 months ago
ok, keep making conspiracy theories if you want, but i'm not those some people. there is no way i can convince you it seems, so why the hell would i bother?
the fact is that the guy is my friend. i know my own friend and i never lie to others.
i am not prejudiced or intolerant and unaccepting. i accept homosexuals for who they are, but i still believe that what they do is wrong. that does not make me a bigot nor does it make me a homophobe.
truebeliever786 11 months ago
@Shrtcat Ok, I only just saw this because I am an ego maniac who searches his name on Google sometimes. Fake account? Stupid friend? I see more intolerance in you calling me stupid without reason than what Hussain says. I am definitely real and Hussain is a good friend of mine. He does not go around condemning homosexuality but disagrees with it as much as I disagree with modern music. I do not wish for Ke$ha to go to hell but I disagree with what she is doing. AND I AM REAL.
Keopro 8 months ago
@Keopro Lol fake account. Give up, find something better to do. Find better friends.
Shrtcat 8 months ago
@Shrtcat Not fake. CHeck out my videos to see who I am. I don't like being called fake because of one skeptic who doesn't believe one of my friends. If you want proof, look my name up in Google. I have worked with youth services and been in our local paper...unlike Hussain. I am definately real and I think you'd be the idiotic one to be skeptical of my existance based on no evidence whatsoever that would give the impression that I do not exist.
Keopro 8 months ago
@Shrtcat
Its not a fake account. He's my friend from school dammit, although we've graduated. Why the hell would I make a fake account?
Keopro (Joel) has videos of himself so he's clearly a real person. And if I was homophobic, why the hell would I act as a bisexual person lol
That's just stupid...
truebeliever786 8 months ago
@Cindercheth "Sorry" but it doesn't shed the least bit of light on humans. Animals are animals. They don't have self control. And some people wonder why homos are treated like mindless animals. Maybe because they try using this as evidence? Look more into animal dominance before labeling something "gay". I'm sure if the animals understood it, they wouldn't appreciate that.
TheCrippledCrow 10 months ago
@TheCrippledCrow OF COURSE IT DOES. Hmmm, maybe we should start "treating bigoted assholes like mindless animals"?
Look into evolution, dumbass. We can communicate, have opposable thumbs, and can manipulate our environment in ways they can not WOULD be the best answer, but the underlying fact remains: we're another species with the same basic needs. SO USE YOUR BRAIN, and quit acting "like a mindless animal".
Cindercheth 10 months ago
@TheCrippledCrow By the way... maybe you shouldn't blame "the mindless animal homosexuals" for comparing humans to animals, since there are even gay people who would disagree, and there are even religious gay folk.
Place the blame where it's due, moron. Evolutionism.
Cindercheth 10 months ago
I believe in God and I am bi sexual. If God didn't want homosexuality or bisexuality he would not have made them Now in all seriousness what the hell is the difference between I man being in love with another man and a man being in love with a women? To quote the book 'Will Grayson, Will Grayson'. "Well you know when you gay you put your penis in the place that they shit from" "Yeah but when your straight you put it in the place they pee and get their period"
13sirius13snape 1 year ago
@13sirius13snape He didn't make them. He made free will silly bitch. Thats like saying if god didn't want murderers or child molesters he shouldn't have made them. The point of a period is to procreate. The point of anus is to expel doo doo. Anal sex is very dangers to your health.
SaltineCrackaAss 1 year ago
@SaltineCrackaAss Anal is not dangerous to your health! Where'd you get your information? Oh and very intellegent of you using the word doo doo. And I would appricate it if you didn't call me a bitch. Seriously I don't understand how there is a difference between a man being with a man and a man being with a women.
13sirius13snape 1 year ago
@13sirius13snape We preach that it causes an increased risk of prostate cancer. We stress that to our members of our church that suffer from the gay affliction.
athiestsbane 1 year ago
@athiestsbane
Nobody cares what your miniscule little church preaches, you're just a blip on the radar my friend...you know there are 34000 different judeo-christian churches right?
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
@SaltineCrackaAss That's why at my church we preach against oral sex, anal sex, and masturbation. These things do NOT do what God intended sex to do and that's make babies.
athiestsbane 1 year ago
@athiestsbane We also preach no condom use.
athiestsbane 1 year ago
@athiestsbane
...I'm really fucking struggling to keep in my rage here, my cousin is gay dickweed..I suppose he's going to burn in eternal hellfire for it, right?
It's really quite strange that an omnipotent celestial deity concerns himself with anal sex, by your logic: If my cousin was attracted NATURALLY to men, he should live a whole life on a lie & be with women even though both he and her would be miserable? Or should he just kill himself / live alone?
BelfastAtheist 1 year ago
@athiestsbane Sexuality is NATURUALLY meant to be diverse. Its only wrong when its NOT consenting. Otherwise let it be.
neptuniumforest 1 year ago
@13sirius13snape Friend, I love the shit storm you've started..! MERCY..!
zipper179 1 year ago
i'm no preacher but i read this book one time that had a story in it about adam and eve, not adam and steve
mondaymorninbongtoke 1 year ago
@mondaymorninbongtoke
Must be true! I mean, as long as the book doesn't advocate senseless murder, slavery, or the oppression of women, I'm sure it's okay!
Wait...
TheVVanderingStar 1 year ago 2
@TheVVanderingStar Amen.
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@mondaymorninbongtoke I read that book, too. That's the book that says I can sell my daughter into slavery, stone my neighbor to death next time I see him leaving for work on a Sunday morning, that I *must* sacrifice two turtles when I have my period, that it's okay for me to go get some people from Canada and make them my slaves (and beat them) and that women can't be teachers. It's a very silly book.
drgregsgurl 1 year ago
So all you're saying is that homosexual people are as smart as monkeys and other wildlife ^_^ thank you for being honest. Hetero is a way to go assholes!
vita2balode 1 year ago
*whoosh!*
No one said that animals are smart as humans, only that homosexuality happens in the natural world.
ginkiba3 1 year ago
fags r awkward 2 b around... just throwin it out there...
born2hunt1123 1 year ago
@justinatencio You're joking right? If not, your stupidity is FUCKING scary. Teach animals who to fuck? Are you lacking oxygen? Or education maybe? Go read a fucking book PLEASE! For the progress of humankind's sake!
"Bad dog! That was a female dog! Come on! Now get aroused and hop your buddy! Thaaaat's it! cookie!!! Now let mi get the camera..."
7AlexFord 1 year ago
Good project, good topic....poor spelling. You spelled "natural" as nautral.
Commandotoad 1 year ago
justinatencio,
These animals were not TAUGHT. yes, they do go "in the ass". Go read a fucking book.
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago 3
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This argument does not hold water. Evolution and survival of the fittest are commonly accepted today as rules of nature. How does being unable to reproduce help an organism? If an organism is homosexual, those genes end right there and then. How could homosexuality possibly be natural and something you are born with if it is impossible to pass down genetically? Keep in mind that rape is also common and "normal" in the animal kingdom but we don't call it "natural" or a "lifestyle choice".
ernestoguevara1983 1 year ago
ernestoguevara1983,
When a species reaches a certain population density homosexual activity spikes. this has a population balancing effect.
When you say animals "rape", i think you are confused. With few exceptions, animals dont have sex for pleasure. What to you and I seems like rape, is really just normal courtship and mating.
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
Hello!!!! they are animals ! they kill each other eat each other they even kill humans thay are not real smart ok. Now what was that ?you want to do and act like animals do. ok so if animals are gay than you being gay means you are an animal, and that my friend is (NOT) natural
noel720104 1 year ago
@noel
One word: evolution
CloudsofBliss 1 year ago
Evolution is an overrated word hijacked by scientist as an excuse for there ignorance.
Furthermore I do not believe that we evolved from animals since the creation of monkeys to this day monkeys with monkeys produce little monkeys!
noel720104 1 year ago
God is an excuse of mankind of every reason on earth.
Why you think that 9/11 was here for?
Evolution have proofs. Bones and all.
Your comment spells ignorance.
CloudsofBliss 1 year ago
@noel
"I do not believe"
Ignorance
CloudsofBliss 1 year ago
I do not mock you, nor do I claim to know it all. Evolution, bones, and all I know where you stand in your beliefs, and I respect them. I just do not believe in evolution.
For the believer no proof is necessary, for the unbeliever proof is impossible no matter which side your on. Peace.
noel720104 1 year ago
@noel720104 For the believer no proof is necessary. That is why believers can say whatever they want and if they have "faith" then it's like they say it is. That is called IGNORANCE and to be obtuse in the head.
7AlexFord 1 year ago
@noel720104 You really need to read some more. What, where, how, for how long and why did you study? If you ever did.
7AlexFord 1 year ago
@noel720104 Don't humans kill each other and kill animals? Maybe we're not the ones who are smart. And technically we are animals...sooo...what's your point there?
LiesnSuch2 1 year ago
Hello!!!! You are an animal ! Humans kill each other and some eat each other and us human animals do kill humans. ok so if we are gay then we being gay means that we are animals which IS natural?
Yup, if you add a little sense to what you commented.. well you make a LOAD sense there bud.
Laranga1 1 year ago
@Laranga1 PAY ATTENTION!!!!! One more time for the homosexual kid, oops !! my bad retarded kid!! Humans acting as animals is not natural got it? do you get it??
noel720104 1 year ago
I am paying attention, no need to stress your caps lock. Oops! I'm sorry! Error of fact! Humans are animals. So humans acting like humans is not natural? I would act like a chair, you know, 'cause their not animals- but then people might fight on youtube about how I wasn't acting natural!
Yesyes, I "get" quite well your ignorance.
Laranga1 1 year ago
Look prissy, if you want to be an animal than more power to you. How about a monkey, or maybe you can be a donkey hmmm? Does baboon work for you, or dog ?? God made a distinction between humans, and animals ok.
noel720104 1 year ago
Look missy, I have no "desire" to be an animal. There is no disadvantage, nor advantage (See you don't even have to worry about some slimy scum like me having "more power" x3) to wither or not we classify ourselves as animals. Name this distinction please, unless it's just a name. I could see why GOD wants his SPEICAL creations to feel SPEICAL because they have a SPEICAL NAME.
Laranga1 1 year ago
I am man, I have the ability to reason ... animals do not. I have the ability to Love, and understand it.... animals do not. I have a soul... animals do not. God is the master of man, and God made man the master of all animals.
noel720104 1 year ago
Aw, that was poetic. I liked it. Butehlol.
Animals think. Humans have more cognitive ability then "animals", yes; but, animals still can think. Who is to say "animals" don't understand love? I think they can understand it just fine, you know, while their thinking. Aa.. soul. I'm fighting the topic of gay, not religion, so.
Man "masters" animals, because humans are generally smarter. Yes, they are at the top of the latter; but part of the latter they still are.
seeicanbepoetictoo.
Laranga1 1 year ago
Well since you brought it up.... Your man part naturally should go into the woman part, no I did not say feces ejection tube. now this my friend is disgusting!! It is down right dirty. Now you can flip your little pinky upwards, and toss your pom poms on the ground all you want, but it is not going to make your gayness acceptable.
noel720104 1 year ago
Since I brought it up? Sorry I thought you recognized the "Gay" part of the "Natural Gay Rights" video you where commenting on. I'm sorry, yet again; but, "because it ist natural" is not even enough of a thought to call a argument. Here, I'll give as much evidence to it as you just did. "Gayness is acceptable." Oop. Statements collide! I guess we actually have to back up our shit with proof now!
Laranga1 1 year ago
@noel720104 You mean that all the people who have oral sex are down right dirty too right? Because the man part is naturally supposed to go into the woman part, not in the food-injection tube! And the tongue is not supposed to go into the women part! The tongue is for eating and speaking right?!?!
Well, as you see, your theory has been completely discredited. What's more, I've proven that you don't use your neurones enough! Go do some philosophy and cultivate yourself.
7AlexFord 1 year ago
@noel720104 If you want to argue give empirical rational proof because. "Animals don't have a soul" is your belief. Not a proof. So you can't base your argument on that. Basics of the scientific method. "God made man the master of all animals"????? What are you talking about? Do you realize there is no way you can proove that? Religion is poison. With it ignorant people can justify anything and everything.
7AlexFord 1 year ago 10
@7AlexFord PROOF: GOD TOLD ME.
;D lol
Shrtcat 1 year ago
@noel720104 If you think that sex can only be between a man and a woman, it means that the only purpose of sex is reproduction. So I hope you're not using condoms because that's "unnatural" right?
If you'd think a little more you'd see that sex is also for showing affection, creating strong bonds, for showing love, and for keeping a good health. SO THE GENDER HAS NOTHING TO DO THERE.
7AlexFord 1 year ago 10
do u think its okay for humans to have sex with animals? Just a simple question I'm asking--nothing tricky, I just wanna see how you reason things out.
bths87 2 years ago
Well, considering animals don't have sex with animals of other species, only with animal of their own species, but they still have sex with the same gender, I think its pretty ok.
cellyguy4000 1 year ago
LOL omg i have seen it all
deycrazyovahere09 2 years ago
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great video dude
sio42 2 years ago
I don't think it's natural. I think they're just really horny. lol. But, we don't have a right to tell people how to live their lives, so whether it's natural or not, that whole argument is null.
pvthansen1234 2 years ago
shut the fuck up christians and homophobics gay people have affacted you none and caused you no harm some god you have.
jalopotan 2 years ago
LOL, you wish its was Natural, its not
CubanExile 2 years ago
@CubanExile Why is it not natural? Is plastic surgery not natural? Is kidney transplant not natural either?
treetri88 2 years ago
@treetri88 you tell him !
toxictits 2 years ago
yes it is, u wouldnt know any way, people are born gay the same way people are born str8, you need to get over it
yttihp11 2 years ago
awsome .. i loved your vid .... wish ppl would just leave what happens in the bedroom between two or more consenting adults ... in the bedroom who cares as long as no one is hurt ......
janinedoughty 2 years ago 10
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The point is: Even if homosexuality wouldn't be natural it would not make any difference that homophobia is the real s.c. 'disease'. Just because animals rape, murder, abandon their children if they are too weak and so on it does not mean we have the right to do likewise.
Society is not nature and we should be happy about that.
tehStarsucker 2 years ago
If you believe in God than being gay is wrong
bryzutube 2 years ago
No only the false Christian God. There are many religions such as Hinduism, Shintoism, Vodou, my religion Collyridianism and others. It is only in primitive Bronze Age religions such as your own that deny that gayness is universal and acceptible. The fact is homosexuality is a universal biological orientation meant found in all species and meant to prevent over population. We have debunked your Christian lies on homosexuality just as we have on the heliocentric theory and evolution.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Ok, if you believe in a Christian God than being gay is wrong and when its all over we will see which God is ruling.
bryzutube 2 years ago
Yes and your god is merely the vile demon Baphomet the Demiurge and it is proven that your scirptures are wrong and are nothing more the primitive Bronze Age myths. Plus the facts are that homosexuality is a universal biological phenomena found in all species and meant to prevent overpopulation. Plus there are even all female all LESBIAN species which reproduce parthenogenically. You Christians usually never have an answer for this.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Yes when it is over we will see which God is ruling and it will be my God the One True God the Blessed Virgin Queen of Heaven. I will be at my ladies side in Heaven and you will be cast down to Hell with your lord Baphomet and forced to look on the eyes of his superior Ereshkigal the Queen of Hell.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
If I were gay I wouldn't believe in a Christian God either
bryzutube 2 years ago
Well I am not gay but as a woman and as a moral spiritual creature I would not worship the Christian god know as Baphomet.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Plus on your comment have you ever heard of Pascal's Wager?
0Sindel12 2 years ago
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fags r disgusting
Heratiochristofisson 2 years ago
No moron you are.
0Sindel12 2 years ago 2
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no yew r yew shit eatin howmow
Heratiochristofisson 2 years ago
I do not eat shit and never had though what is a howmow you illiterate piece of shit.
0Sindel12 2 years ago 4
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yew do eat shit n yew r a shit eatin howmow u fucking illiterate piece of shit
Heratiochristofisson 2 years ago
good call
MrKitwood 2 years ago
Thanks dear.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Ha! Foolish redneck
MrKitwood 2 years ago
No dude, homophobia is disgusting.
tehStarsucker 2 years ago 22
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your fucking disgusting yew butthumpin homo
Heratiochristofisson 2 years ago
closet homo say what?
idaman12345 2 years ago
Has there ever been a documented case where animals of the same sex had gay anal sex? I doubt there is allot of studies of male on male animals poking each other in the ass pipes with joy except humans.
rickyguerra4 2 years ago
Yes there are countless studies on male anal sex in the wild. Gay animals regulalry mount and have anal sex with one another. Though there are more ways to have sex and gay sex at that. You can have oral sex rubbing, many ways. Also straights have anal sex as well both human and animal. You like most homophobic chauvanists seem to focus with strange obsession on male gayness especially anal sex and ignore lesbianism in the wild or straight anal sex as well in the wild.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Is there any documented case of two cows or mammal eatin' each other out? K, sure some female cow may lick another female cows pussy, but they don't grab a stick and ram it up the other cows pussy.....
bryzutube 2 years ago
Yes there are documented cases of two cows and all mammals, and every other species groups. Whether they find two animals grabbing sticks and shoveing them up cow's vagina's dosen't matter. They still have sex with each other and dildo's are not the only way to have lesbian sex however to chauvanists I imagine that they would think so.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
The easiest example is always Bonobos who regularly have oral sex and mutual masturbation between same sex partners. Dolphins are known to use their sonar to "buzz" each others vagina like a vibrator and male dolphins will insert their penises into each others blowholes.
Triskil 2 years ago 7
I know that you've gotten a comment similar to mine about a HUNDRED times already, but you put, -
"It's only nautral".
You spelled "natural" right in your video title though, so good job. XD
MetalSparks 2 years ago
all other forms of sin are also completely natural, and can be observed being practiced by animals. does that make them ok?
casper9013 2 years ago
Ive never seen an animal eat out anothers bum hole.
usaisation 2 years ago
I have seen it happen first hand. Not only that it has been recorded that animals do "eat out anothers bum hole."
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Are they harming themselves? NO! It is not a sin ... Animals are harmless and they do not carry sins as humans do.
I would say that this kinds of acts even on animals are natural.
Spaceillusion02 2 years ago
Because gayness is neither a sin nor wrong. I am sorry what bullshit you have been fed in your primitive bronze age religions but homosexuality is in every species and is a natural biological orientation meant to prevent overpopulation. There are even all female all LESBIAn species that reproduce parthenogenically. Also what constiutes right and wrong is what hurts others. Gayness hurts no one in fact it helps all species. You have no rational reason to hate it except for your false religion.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Plus if you knew an ounce about your religion you would know that animals can not commit sin as they are not sentient. Also neither can retarded or mentally challenged people. Plus the Blessed Virgin Mary was sinless as well in Christianity.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
if you are the type of person who loves sex in any kind of way (ie: sexualy active) then you will do anything to pleasure yourself .. now that is a fact! the money is just there as an incentive. duhh please understand the concept behind what i say.. not just what you read..and once again please go with that argurment on tv or youtube and say to the gay community their are in the list of population control,along with death,sickness,and deformation, and lets see what happens
wgomez28 2 years ago
No I love sex only in specific ways. Just because someone is sexually active does not meant that they have no sexual standards. No that is not a fact people will not do just anything to sexually satisfy themselves. Most people have control and keep their sexuality in their private lives. Next money is not an incentive if money is used it is prostitution!
0Sindel12 2 years ago
im sure you do have standard but you dont speak for the whole human race. really is not a fact! get real.. welcome to the real world the material world yes moeny is an incentive at the right time and place...now most people have control of their sexuality? so tell me what about the rest what do they do?
wgomez28 2 years ago
I speak for the whole human race because I speak of facts and reason. Yes homosexuality being used to prevent overpopulation is a fact and it is also a fact that it hurts no one. It seems that you need to get to the real world. Also no one would have sex for money unless they were poor or prostitutes. Yes most people have control of their sexuality and so long as it hurts no one it is fine. If you wish to find out about various things people do either google it or ask your parents!
0Sindel12 2 years ago
Next gay people are in every species to prevent death, sickness, and deformation by reducing the numbers of kids born in the world and as parents to those who do not have parents. It allows us to restric the flow of children. Also all of these things are harmful homosexuality does none of these things and serves as a mechanism to prevent these bad things. I will go n on a video and say this if I can because it is a fact!
0Sindel12 2 years ago
yeah please go with that video.. it may help your fight against your cause rembmer to print everything we talked and ask questions ... the best law of man is when two points of view are met and make logical decisions.
wgomez28 2 years ago
I don't need this video to fight for my cause. I have the weath of scientists, biologists, historians, athropoligists, psychologists and people of reason and logic all over to do this. I have facts and reason and you have deranged paranoia. Next only the point of view of reason matters. Ayn Rand said that there are 2 sides of the story the right one and the wrong one and comprimising one with the other is the same as comprimising food with poison.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
ohh do it like the discovery channel just cause animals do it hhmm . so maybe we should start preying /killing without accountability like them dont you think! obviously not right? well we are different since we have reasoning/and think logical THEY DON'T so convincing people with this uneducated video just is sad!
wgomez28 2 years ago
What is with Christians and basic logic and science! The difference with killing and preying without accountability is that it harms the species and it harms individuals. Though we do prey on other species and that is acceptable. Homosexuality is a universal and natural orientation found in every species to prevent overpopulation. It onlu helps species and it hurts no one so it should be accepted.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
we are the only species that kill for pleasure ! and can continue killing just because. those who prey on other species unjustified do get stopped by others whom are concern. if homosexuality want to be accepted they must agree its a birth defect. but using that wlll create hate. i do agree its in the list of the other decease to where is meant to prevent overpopulation/death etc. but the question is what will it lead!not having children hmm how would u feel about life!
wgomez28 2 years ago
Ok first of all yeah we are the only species that kills for pleasure. We are also the only species which has anyform of advancement in technology and sentient life. Next there is nothing wrong with preying on other species. Animals eat other animals and I am a meat eater.
0Sindel12 2 years ago