but you, don't dive in the toil of war yet | before you see me with your eyes coming here; | because in the morning I'll come when the sun will be rising | bringing nice weapons from king Hephaestus.
This movie was supposed to be a more realistic representation of the poem. Notice the lack of the gods? That's why this Achilles is better than Hector. In reality, as in this movie, Achilles is NOT invincible, and thus is better than Hector (skill-wise)
Achilles is a lot better then Hector. Even before he injured his leg (which he got pushed by Achilles). Hector was having a rough time as it was, Achilles wasn't tired or fatigue and Hector was breathing super heavy. The reason he tripped over the rock was because he was tired from fighting before and Achilles was the one who pushed him as well, so it doesn't matter.
Achillies is better, even though i was cheering for Troy the entire movie. Achilles is better only because his Mother is a Godess (Which was the Woman making the seashell necklace for him in the movie) she dipped him in an immortal river however, she had to hold his ankle so he wouldn't fall in. Achillies can only die (Which is stupid because this 'hitpoint' isn't even fatal) if he is slashed or shot in the heel. Therefore he is better imortal wise. But hector put up a good fight for a mortal.
@Jacobobi1 he also wore armor made from haphestus. wich is said to be as bright as the sun , in the illiad. so he wasnt the best fighter skill wise his armor made it so noone else could see lol. jk jk but when i read that i lold
so? Hector got injured during the fight. Achilles didn't trick him to injure him. If Hector was a better fighter he wouldn't have tripped on a rock. DURRR
And i wish the Troyans won... but who knows, maybe the whole of greek would be Troyans now if that would happend, but anyway, i realy want to see that city, after what i've seen from the movie!
theres a story that despite Toy falling the remaing Trojans whu survived went on to begin a great Civilisation that became on the most powerful....the Romans
Dylankrolick ( see comment page 3 ) how can you know that, if you even can't spell achilles name? You'r maybe right about him, i just wonder how you know it, if you cant spell his name :)
they're still lovers. that is a word we use to describe a particular type of relationship. It doesn't matter if we're talking about greek soldiers, japanese samurai, or whatever. If they fit the definition of that word, then we use that word to describe them. of course.. the Iliad never actually describes them as lovers does it? I think people just assumed that they were based on greek custom. I could be wrong.
Yeah but in the actual story, from which this movie is adopted they were close friends. They may have even had sex with each other, something that was not uncommon among Greeks. It doesn't mean either is gay, they were close friends.
It is true that they weren't cousins.The father of Patroklos took him to the father of Achilles and so they grow up like brothers...There are 2 possible reasons why Patroklos took part in the war.1Because Achilles went.
2.Because he was an ex-lover of Helen....
Please read the Iliad first and then talk.
And please stop saying that ancient Greeks were gay.The word lover in ancient Greece meant tutor(erastis).Ancient Greeks were not gay.
Well maybe you can do some research too. Is it not disputed that Alexander the Great's best friend Hephaestion may have also been his lover? And that the Spartans were known to have engaged in homosexuality while they were in their barracks? Not to mention that the Athenians are at many times called boy lovers?
So like I said they were not GAY, but homosexuality was a common practice during that time because their culture didn't look down on it (like so many do now...)
actually its called troy because of the events that lead to the fall or "Troy". its not about 2 men fighting its about 2 cities or in greece's case a bunch of cities against troy
when hecter was killed acciles draged his body around for a while 4 all to see then gave it to dogs but the people said the gods were po'ed so he reterned him)what was left)to his family after that he was cremated
if this wasn't a historic story, it would make a great movie, achilles betrayes the greeks and joins the trojan army, hektor kills menelaos, agamemnon and ajax and oddyseus retreats with his army, the remaining greeks are being slaughtered, and troy wins the war.. but they can't change history, that sucks..
dude this movie is bs on hector he knew we was killing a child and he even took the armor as his prize in truth he was greedy and was more evil then it shows in the movie
this is nothing like what realy happend.they make accilles or however u spell it a brave frearless hero but he was realy a coward and momma's boy.and accilles armor was gold.but when hecter killed his cousin it was black.the creators f'ed up bad.
ITS BOROMIR!
SuperGamingguitarist 1 month ago
@TheMetalHeadGr
That was no offence. It reminded me when I wrotea test from chemistry.
"Aqua regia is an acid witch etches gold."
It's not the language side. You can see :D in front of my comment. Just brought back memories.
2nadalfederer1 3 months ago
@TheMetalHeadGr
:D witch is a female wizard.
2nadalfederer1 3 months ago
Hector>Achilles>Paris
nuff said!!
iFlashoh 3 months ago
@TheMetalHeadGr Hephaestus made the weapons in only one day.
Read the Iliad, book 18, vers. 134-137.
Thetis says:
ἀλλὰ σὺ μὲν μή πω καταδύσεο μῶλον Ἄρηος | πρίν γ᾽ ἐμὲ δεῦρ᾽ ἐλθοῦσαν ἐν ὀφθαλμοῖσιν ἴδηαι· | ἠῶθεν γὰρ νεῦμαι ἅμ᾽ ἠελίῳ ἀνιόντι | τεύχεα καλὰ φέρουσα παρ᾽ Ἡφαίστοιο ἄνακτος.
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but you, don't dive in the toil of war yet | before you see me with your eyes coming here; | because in the morning I'll come when the sun will be rising | bringing nice weapons from king Hephaestus.
Lhein33 4 months ago
When he finds out its his cousin, he's like
O HEEELLL NAW.
MHS032 8 months ago
wow, i love the soundtrack. love it.
very very amazing wonderful and powerful song.
TheFullHDtube 8 months ago
its all the greek king and the king of spartan fault.
TheKingGodZeus 10 months ago
@chris47533 ,
Fuck you
cesaraugustothanos 11 months ago
@chris47533 ,
No, Achilles was a son of ARES, the god of war. Olds gods greeks.
cesaraugustothanos 11 months ago
@cesaraugustothanos That's wrong: Achilles was son of Peleo and Teti, not of Ares.....
DarioDC28 10 months ago
@DarioDC28 ,
Yes, Peleo was father in the land. ARES was a GOD, GOD of WAR. Achilles was born in age of ARES, the greek god of war.
cesaraugustothanos 10 months ago
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Lhein33 8 months ago
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@cesaraugustothanos 1. I think what you said has no sense. What exactly do you mean?
2. Peleus was the only father Achilles had. Where is said that Ares had something to do with Achilles?
Lhein33 8 months ago
fuck wmg
kanekul 1 year ago
All this over a girl, Guess things haven't changed much hahahaha
BARNEYRAPEDME69 1 year ago
Hector was defending his land , too bad Achilles was a demi God
AdolfHparodies 1 year ago
No sound xP !
Miadagher 1 year ago
Which one in the movie was Owain Yeoman? Was he Achilles' second in command, the bearded fellow with dark hair?
1989green 1 year ago
Achilles is a legend
ThisGirlRocksz 1 year ago 24
i'm greek and let me explain
Achillies is better than hector and paris....
the god Apollon told paris to hit Achillies at heel
shitbomp 1 year ago 2
@shitbomp
Apollo*
And he did more then that. He pretty much guided the arrow in mid flight.
JimmyEatWorld55 1 year ago
This movie was supposed to be a more realistic representation of the poem. Notice the lack of the gods? That's why this Achilles is better than Hector. In reality, as in this movie, Achilles is NOT invincible, and thus is better than Hector (skill-wise)
13choya 2 years ago
lame
AchromaticAdulation 2 years ago
Achilles is a lot better then Hector. Even before he injured his leg (which he got pushed by Achilles). Hector was having a rough time as it was, Achilles wasn't tired or fatigue and Hector was breathing super heavy. The reason he tripped over the rock was because he was tired from fighting before and Achilles was the one who pushed him as well, so it doesn't matter.
boganlauman 2 years ago 2
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@boganlauman
"Achilles is a lot better then Hector"
Good job stating the obvious you fucking moron.
refuckulate420 1 year ago
Achilles isnt better than hector
Achilles could just get killed my a Stab or Shot in his tendon
thats one reason why he won
reason 2 like samprasistthebest said he pushed him over the rock
CCMacke 2 years ago
Achillies is better, even though i was cheering for Troy the entire movie. Achilles is better only because his Mother is a Godess (Which was the Woman making the seashell necklace for him in the movie) she dipped him in an immortal river however, she had to hold his ankle so he wouldn't fall in. Achillies can only die (Which is stupid because this 'hitpoint' isn't even fatal) if he is slashed or shot in the heel. Therefore he is better imortal wise. But hector put up a good fight for a mortal.
Jacobobi1 2 years ago
@Jacobobi1 he also wore armor made from haphestus. wich is said to be as bright as the sun , in the illiad. so he wasnt the best fighter skill wise his armor made it so noone else could see lol. jk jk but when i read that i lold
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
Awesome song and scene. I didn't like it when Paris killed Achilles. Damn.. poor Bresies * pardon my spelling *
TimelessEndless 2 years ago 15
Great JOB
littlebigguy09 2 years ago
Achillies is way better than Hector and Paris. If he fought Paris also Paris will be dead less than a min
shadowrend34 2 years ago 5
Achilles wasn't WAY better than Hector, in fact he won because he injured Hector's leg when he pushed him over the rock.
Samprasisthebest 2 years ago
so? Hector got injured during the fight. Achilles didn't trick him to injure him. If Hector was a better fighter he wouldn't have tripped on a rock. DURRR
mrbeate 2 years ago 4
@mrbeate
Well in the book its quite a bit different. There is a lot of tricking.
JimmyEatWorld55 1 year ago
whats the name of the song plz ?
nekouna 2 years ago 2
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NashiraJade 2 years ago
The song is called "Anytime, Anywhere" by Sarah Brightman! :)
NashiraJade 2 years ago
And i wish the Troyans won... but who knows, maybe the whole of greek would be Troyans now if that would happend, but anyway, i realy want to see that city, after what i've seen from the movie!
nickos112 2 years ago
theres a story that despite Toy falling the remaing Trojans whu survived went on to begin a great Civilisation that became on the most powerful....the Romans
joet66 2 years ago
someones obviously read "The Aeneid" haha ;)
grimzey 2 years ago
lol hells yeah studied it at A level and university, im gettin kinda bored of it now haha
joet66 2 years ago
with respect, sir, they're trojans instead of 'troyans'
ChiaKaCheng 2 years ago
the citizens of troy are not called troyans... they wer trojans.... and anthropologist cannot exactly pinpoint where the former troy lays now..
shotmaker03 2 years ago
Dylankrolick ( see comment page 3 ) how can you know that, if you even can't spell achilles name? You'r maybe right about him, i just wonder how you know it, if you cant spell his name :)
nickos112 2 years ago
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anton666anselmo 2 years ago
The reply thing is always broken.
bishopob 2 years ago
Actually, Patrocklos was Achilles lover...
It is specifically written in Iliad, but its obvious.:D
Even our literature teacher mentioned it when we learnt about it.:)
Just think about it, they spent years there with no woman... and it wasnt an uncommon thing in ancient Greece anyways
barack14 2 years ago
Not lovers >_>
In ancient greece sometimes if two people felt so friendly they would haves ex, even if they were the same gender.. it wasn't uncommon.
And for the record its Patroclus not Patrocklos lol
AfroOzzy 2 years ago
And when two people have sex with each other, how is that called, huh? because as far as i know thats what lovers mean lol
and so sorry for writing Patrocklos, i hope you could understand it even though
barack14 2 years ago
freakin reply thing is broken again -.-
AfroOzzy 2 years ago
C and K are interchangeable according to my classics teacher... was a right pain when trying to remember how to spell names
¬_¬
squishy87 2 years ago
Yay for classics *thumbs up*
AfroOzzy 2 years ago
^____^
we're doing the aeniad when we get back to school in sept. but only four books out of the iliad which makes me a sad pufferfish
T_T
squishy87 2 years ago
since it's nearly summer holiday, we're just doing the Iliad and watching the film Troy and comparing them :P
AfroOzzy 2 years ago
we're watching a series called Rome. it's rather raunchy and my teacher likes to play videos really loud so i'm like -facepalm- XD
squishy87 2 years ago
they were lovers. two extremely close friends that fuck? hmm. sounds like lovers to me.
ultimategoobah 2 years ago
Sounds like lovers to me as well.
Unfortunately, Ancient Greek customs are SLIGHTLY different from modern Western customs.
AfroOzzy 2 years ago
they're still lovers. that is a word we use to describe a particular type of relationship. It doesn't matter if we're talking about greek soldiers, japanese samurai, or whatever. If they fit the definition of that word, then we use that word to describe them. of course.. the Iliad never actually describes them as lovers does it? I think people just assumed that they were based on greek custom. I could be wrong.
ultimategoobah 2 years ago
i like the moves of achilles
huyhuyhuytae 2 years ago
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21Hellin 2 years ago
that wasn't hector, hector dies in front of the castle, that was Patroclus
minerslicer1 2 years ago
Patroclus is Achillies cousin....
minerslicer1 2 years ago
no there best friends
bffgirl23 2 years ago
it was family u know Watch the movie again then u go hear it
edderd8 2 years ago
Yeah but in the actual story, from which this movie is adopted they were close friends. They may have even had sex with each other, something that was not uncommon among Greeks. It doesn't mean either is gay, they were close friends.
fuelnfire33 2 years ago
It is true that they weren't cousins.The father of Patroklos took him to the father of Achilles and so they grow up like brothers...There are 2 possible reasons why Patroklos took part in the war.1Because Achilles went.
2.Because he was an ex-lover of Helen....
Please read the Iliad first and then talk.
And please stop saying that ancient Greeks were gay.The word lover in ancient Greece meant tutor(erastis).Ancient Greeks were not gay.
21Hellin 2 years ago
Well maybe you can do some research too. Is it not disputed that Alexander the Great's best friend Hephaestion may have also been his lover? And that the Spartans were known to have engaged in homosexuality while they were in their barracks? Not to mention that the Athenians are at many times called boy lovers?
So like I said they were not GAY, but homosexuality was a common practice during that time because their culture didn't look down on it (like so many do now...)
fuelnfire33 2 years ago
it was his cousin....
tecna64 2 years ago
if hector was the 1 that died and achilles was the guy that pwned then why is the movie called troy??????lol
theArtardman 2 years ago
cos thats where the film is set.....
cmoncas99 2 years ago
actually its called troy because of the events that lead to the fall or "Troy". its not about 2 men fighting its about 2 cities or in greece's case a bunch of cities against troy
Altair9092 2 years ago
also im sure they didnt show this:
when hecter was killed acciles draged his body around for a while 4 all to see then gave it to dogs but the people said the gods were po'ed so he reterned him)what was left)to his family after that he was cremated
dylankrolick 3 years ago
i love hector!
prettyghie25 3 years ago 2
o and 1 more thing this is funny here hector ran around the walls 3 TIMES before he faced achilles man i love history XD
lithuanian12 3 years ago 2
History? Try mythology.
Sethok103 2 years ago
if this wasn't a historic story, it would make a great movie, achilles betrayes the greeks and joins the trojan army, hektor kills menelaos, agamemnon and ajax and oddyseus retreats with his army, the remaining greeks are being slaughtered, and troy wins the war.. but they can't change history, that sucks..
laurensmalter 3 years ago 2
dude this movie is bs on hector he knew we was killing a child and he even took the armor as his prize in truth he was greedy and was more evil then it shows in the movie
lithuanian12 3 years ago
this is nothing like what realy happend.they make accilles or however u spell it a brave frearless hero but he was realy a coward and momma's boy.and accilles armor was gold.but when hecter killed his cousin it was black.the creators f'ed up bad.
dylankrolick 3 years ago
orlando blom looks funny wen Hector dies =P
stickmanbob88 3 years ago
1:30 what's his name? ;p
psnn 3 years ago
Anytime, anywhere - Sarah Brightman
that the song, and not Lento of albinoni
zalmolxis88 3 years ago
thanks mate
kazakhchechen 3 years ago
Well, it's great. This project must be able to have a high score!! But seriously, like what "Nataku408" said, put the right title next time!!
YingtzuCherry 3 years ago
hahaha hector fucked up
casho9 3 years ago 2
nice but seriously put the right title nxt time
Nataku408 4 years ago
this is the death of patroclus
angelic4534533 4 years ago 4
no, its the death of hector think about it...
Jonbino 3 years ago
lol...i guess i didn't watch the end...but patroclus still dies...and hector dies as a result of it
angelic4534533 3 years ago
the music is "Lento" of Albinoni
genoa4ever 4 years ago
wat keywords should i use to look it up
blackenblades 4 years ago
"Lento" of Albinoni
rjbonacolta 4 years ago
damn i tried the name u gave me but i couldnt find the song no matter how many songs i tried to download
blackenblades 5 years ago
yo wats the name of the artisy and song
blackenblades 5 years ago
I don't know the name of the song but this is from Sarah Brightman
josephineOevasunam 5 years ago
the name is Lento of Albinoni
genoa4ever 4 years ago
@blackenblades sarah brightman sing melodies from the clasical compousers and this is adagio by the italian composer tomaso albinoni!
luisbassooon 6 months ago