(By the way, I was sure that in the comments section, I was gonna see "I was gonna walk with you, until I took an arrow to the knee." but I didn't find it...at least on this page.)
That ending really packs a punch! I swear my heart skipped a beat. Very effective use of image and sound (or lack thereof, actually) to strengthen the message.
I've always imagined Jesus as the one being carried. When times are good an imaginary friend is no burden at all. It's only when the hard times come and the endless devotion seems fruitless that the religious have to carry the weight of their fantasies. The footprints don't get any deeper, though...
Give WLC an STD like HIV and His ASS will Run to a PHD. Everyone's got an asshole,but when it becomes the dominant feature of your personality it's time to make some changes.Mr. Palmer,I hope your health is good.(I seen WLC in a comment and he just makes me go off-him sog and vfx).
How to shut WLC down,tell him you can't use the natural world(our home,the Universe) to prove the supernatural.
@genobahamut1337 Poems do not all rhyme. This is a very famous poem by an unknown author. It reads pretty much exactly as in this video, ending with the "I carried you." line.
@MrStillmans I see... Well, I know they don't all rhyme, but I'm confused about what makes this a poem. Could you inform me on what criteria it's meeting?
@genobahamut1337 In its written form, the sentences are broken into in shorter lines forming a column like appearance. Poems have a speaker and a listener. In this case, the speaker is the writer and the listener is God. It has some build up, metaphor use, and wit, which are striven for by poets. It doesn't take much to qualify as a poem, though. I just listed a few prominent things about this one that help it be as successful as it is.
If you were a god in a place of infinite bliss I don't think you'd have much of an obligation to help out anyone. If god exists I wouldn't doubt that he's the greatest hedonistic being imaginable.
This speaks to another great flaw in the mind of thse who believe in a "just" god: millions of indisputably innocent toddlers starve to death every year, usually after horrific suffering, while an omnipotent heavenly "father" stands by and does NOTHING even though it would be effortless for him to stop it. The lame excuse posed by apologists: because we need suffering in order to decide whether to serve god. Why can't god just appear and say "follow me" as the test?
I agree with the the video. Reality itself contradicts the whole Biblical concept that God will not allow us to experience more than we can bear. If it were true, the holocaust wouldn't have happened. We would never hear news stories of innocent girls being held in the basements of sick men and raped for years.
There is NO cap, no upper bounds, on the amount of evil that some invisible man allows to happen to us. Reality isn't based on warm fuzzy wishes, like those found in the original poem.
@Dikotomii Oddly enough, perhaps, that is my favorite book of the bible. I sometimes wonder if there isn't some more esoteric meaning to it, in some of the wording. Off the top of my head I cannot remember, but isn't that the same book that God brags about creating good AND evil?
"Why, when I needed you most, you have not been there for me?"
And the Lord replied, "Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone—...
That would be the book of Job, where Job cries out to God to explain the lowest points of suffering in his life. And God's response is to scream nonsense rabidly for three chapters.
Ah. Yes... That wonderfull book about how loving their god is and where he makes a bet with the devil, where the devil gets to torture the poor man for no reason but to quench gods first for recognition.
Still amazed how those idiots see that as a story about god's love.
I would just as soon have his footprints next to mine, instead of carrying me into a concentration camp. I used to say people where ignorant, now it is plain "STUPID"
To me...as soon as I looked into the sand and saw that there was only one set of foot prints...that would have been the moment that I realized that the whole time, I had an imaginary friend. And those foot prints where just mine...without him.
I sent a video-response about Craig's 'moral argument'. One of the comments there belongs here:
belfastfreethinker God commands Biblical genocide. His command makes it moral. Divine Command Theology should be renamed the Biblical Nuremberg Defence.
@GargamelGold I realize this wasn't directed at me, so I hope you'll forgive my butting in, but the original goes much the same way except no questioning of God's will after the " I carried you" bit.
ZJemptv has a variant that's pretty nice too, if you're interested :) .
@Quintinohthree That's great to hear that you enjoyed Zinnia's version as well :) . I find Zinnia's way more uplifting than the original as it returns dignity to person(s) who suffered and made it through a crappy situation.
Brett's is cool too. The dreamer realizes that having a dream so much as a nightmare, but he escapes ( y'know, if I'm understanding him properly) :) .
Both are different expressions of the same overal view. The fact that they take on the original from completely different angles only shows how bad it is.
@GargamelGold The original is the same up until the dreamer asks about the boxcar, concentration camp, and gas chamber. It pretty much just ends there instead.
When god commands something, it's ok to do it, even if it's a sin without god's command. God commanded Abraham to kill Isaak, and it wouldn't have been murder for Abraham to kill Isaak because god commanded it." William Lane Craig
@brettppalmer Craig has theological weaponry to come out of that hole (what you say). - "God allows suffering to happen so that to bring people FREELY to choose god." Yes, you read it good, when people are in great suffering (concentration camp is an example), then they FREELY choose to believe in god!
@AntiCitizenX I haven't seen the response you're replying to, but I've still got a good idea of the apologist claim. There is nothing new under the sun. :)
@Dissapointment4 I am just quoting William Lane Craig. I just made a video about his 'moral argument' and I have sent it as a response video to this video.
@brettppalmer I suspect WLC isn't a moron. I propose a trilemma! He's either a liar, knowing full well that what he says is bullshit, a lunatic, incapable of understanding reality outside the confines of scripture, or Lucifer, actively seeking to do evil.
And he can't be a liar or a lunatic because... uh...
Was this before or after the ten commandments? I mean REALLY, how's a man to know it's bad to murder your own son unless you have the timeless and unparallelled ten commandments on which to base your life's whole moral code:)?
@dewinthemorning i dropped in the conversation just to note that william lane craig has the LAMEST arguments ever. the only way he gets away with it is because the majority of the audience is dumber than him and that his opponent in debates just hasn't got the time to go one by one all the fallacies he makes.I've seen a debate where he won it with extreme ease (in the minds of the audience) just by repeating again and again "YOU DIDNT GIVE ME EVIDENCE THAT ATHEISM IS TRUE"
@Samura1gamer Someday, I'd like to see someone agree to debate WLC and just refuse to play his game.
"My opening and closing argument is..." proceed to quote WLC defending genocidal attrocities as the fault of the victims, "I cede the rest of my time to my opponent, as I'm certain you don't need me to help you figure out the depravity of this man, and I have better things to do. Good evening to you all." And then walk out.
I'd pay to see that in gold, frankiscense, AND mhyrr.
As an atheist I have received that quaint story on all manner of items from bookmarks to those cheesy white plastic wall plaques sold in Christian stores. I wished I had had your interpretation to give the givers. Well done. Peace.
Absolutely brilliant.
Strictlypointless 4 weeks ago
and I noticed only one set of footprints. Huge ones.
Bigfoot prints in the sand.
unkledanbot 1 month ago in playlist More videos from brettppalmer
Brilliant
YahwehNoweh 1 month ago
Nice little video.
(By the way, I was sure that in the comments section, I was gonna see "I was gonna walk with you, until I took an arrow to the knee." but I didn't find it...at least on this page.)
Rationalific 1 month ago 2
@Rationalific I used to have two sets of footprints... but then I took an arrow to the knee. (Geddit? He's hopping? Skyrim? Arrows? Pain?)
paulalex19 1 month ago
@paulalex19 There ya go.
Rationalific 1 month ago
I like: "Why only one set of footprints during the hardest times of my life?"
God replied: "My child, it was then that your incessant whining got so bad that I had to take a trip down to the pub to escape it."
MrLowercaseA 1 month ago
Brilliant!
Lifeiscurious 1 month ago
"... only one set of footprints in the sand.
And I asked the Lord, why, when I needed you the most, you have not been there for me.
The Lord replied, 'Omnipotent beings move in single file to hide their numbers...' "
TheHogTieChamp 1 month ago
That ending really packs a punch! I swear my heart skipped a beat. Very effective use of image and sound (or lack thereof, actually) to strengthen the message.
ObakeOnna 1 month ago
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God said because I said so. Question me ill send you to hell know why? Cause.... I'M GOD BITCH I DO WHAT I WANT.
MrBGeonzon 1 month ago
Waking up is good
Zentella6 1 month ago
Awsome take on this so popular poem. Positivated
Campineiroamericano 1 month ago
David Cross tell the FITS story with this ending...Then the lord said, Because I have 6 billion other people to look after ya selfish prick!
skeprod224 1 month ago
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123backinyerface 1 month ago
Brilliant!
DanielSchaffiro 1 month ago
beautiful :)
Lynchpinn101 1 month ago
Oh shi---!
DoctorMeh 1 month ago
A very nice piece of work.
calmreason 1 month ago
great just great, thanks again.
richardmoz 1 month ago
Very good video. I knew what was coming...sorta...and I was liking it before you got there.
NonProphetess 1 month ago
If the footprints go around in circles, then you're probably following yourself.
dingodavid 1 month ago
What ever happend to them Cavemen?
Mee551able 1 month ago
Because when you were feeling your worse I was sitting on your shoulders laughing.
Mglosk 1 month ago 4
I've always imagined Jesus as the one being carried. When times are good an imaginary friend is no burden at all. It's only when the hard times come and the endless devotion seems fruitless that the religious have to carry the weight of their fantasies. The footprints don't get any deeper, though...
DaithiDublin 1 month ago 5
Niiice!
rrward 1 month ago
That was truly brilliant.
MarkLucasTube 1 month ago
You can spend hours and hours tearing apart videos one after another, but this video says so much more in such a short two minutes. This was great.
Chickenviewer 1 month ago 2
absolutely brilliant
MacNutz2 1 month ago
Omg Godwins law in action lol. Still nice job :-)
FHomeBrew 1 month ago
Give WLC an STD like HIV and His ASS will Run to a PHD. Everyone's got an asshole,but when it becomes the dominant feature of your personality it's time to make some changes.Mr. Palmer,I hope your health is good.(I seen WLC in a comment and he just makes me go off-him sog and vfx).
How to shut WLC down,tell him you can't use the natural world(our home,the Universe) to prove the supernatural.
rickuj 1 month ago
Jesus love us, thats why he carries us to hell.
Greathiway 1 month ago 2
very good
mccabe1958 1 month ago
Wow! Now this is hard hitting!
juggaloryan3 1 month ago
God: [trollface] My will be done... [/trollface]
Now we know the face of God is that of a silly grinning lunatic.
bb1televator 1 month ago
Why was there only one set of footprints? and he replied "Sand people walk in single file to hide their numbers."
anubis2814 1 month ago 109
@anubis2814 Ha ha ha! I'm off to play SWTOR right now!
brettppalmer 1 month ago 20
@brettppalmer Thumbs up for the awesome video and SWTOR!
RealityFoundNet 1 month ago
@anubis2814
True. They're Sand People alright...
I can see the Banthas from here...
dingodavid 1 month ago
@anubis2814 You are funny. Nice one!
NonProphetess 1 month ago
OPEN YOUR EYES GOD ISNT REAL.
Mee551able 1 month ago
@Mee551able True, but the Invisible Pink Unicorn is! ALL HAIL HER INVISIBLE PINKNESS.
Killedkennyagain 1 month ago
Part of me wants to share this on Facebook, just a little worried about the responses it will get
Kamidake83 1 month ago 2
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@Kamidake83
"Part of me wants to share this on Facebook, just a little worried about the responses it will get"
-That's the point isn't it?
nolobede 1 month ago
@Kamidake83 I'll do it, if you do it.
Killedkennyagain 1 month ago
@Kamidake83 You will be attacked by christians. They are not a very forgiving group.
pchtermino1 1 month ago
This poem is so profound, on so many levels. I passed it by earlier and I am so glad I came back to it. May I feature it on my channel?
kelliko70 1 month ago
@kelliko70 This is a poem? I'm not really that good with poems, so I'm having trouble understanding how this is a poem.
genobahamut1337 1 month ago
@genobahamut1337 Poems do not all rhyme. This is a very famous poem by an unknown author. It reads pretty much exactly as in this video, ending with the "I carried you." line.
MrStillmans 1 month ago
@MrStillmans I see... Well, I know they don't all rhyme, but I'm confused about what makes this a poem. Could you inform me on what criteria it's meeting?
genobahamut1337 1 month ago
@genobahamut1337 In its written form, the sentences are broken into in shorter lines forming a column like appearance. Poems have a speaker and a listener. In this case, the speaker is the writer and the listener is God. It has some build up, metaphor use, and wit, which are striven for by poets. It doesn't take much to qualify as a poem, though. I just listed a few prominent things about this one that help it be as successful as it is.
MrStillmans 1 month ago
@MrStillmans Alright, thanks a bunch.
genobahamut1337 1 month ago
I was shocked at the end of the video, like wow! what a finish
CntrBrdr 1 month ago
Wow... Great and powerful spin on that poem. When you put it like that it really puts it in perspective.
HappyAtheist76 1 month ago
Superb
AuntieDiluvian 1 month ago
Short, but clear and powerful. :D
Eriance 1 month ago
If you were a god in a place of infinite bliss I don't think you'd have much of an obligation to help out anyone. If god exists I wouldn't doubt that he's the greatest hedonistic being imaginable.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 month ago
Devastating!
Puchicas9 1 month ago
When I looked down and saw only one set of footprints, it was then that I realised my new meds were finally working.
dingodavid 1 month ago 41
Way am I in pain.
God: Because I said so...
Gemeni3insane 1 month ago
Brett, fantastic!
jodo40 1 month ago
Genius! Fucking Genius! I was not expecting that! "Into the box car you go!"
Rushlimpballs 1 month ago 2
This speaks to another great flaw in the mind of thse who believe in a "just" god: millions of indisputably innocent toddlers starve to death every year, usually after horrific suffering, while an omnipotent heavenly "father" stands by and does NOTHING even though it would be effortless for him to stop it. The lame excuse posed by apologists: because we need suffering in order to decide whether to serve god. Why can't god just appear and say "follow me" as the test?
There is no sensible retort.
themsfightinwoids 1 month ago 3
Job's book is the default answer from the skyfairy lovers for evil and pain and suffering.
The skyfairy said to Job "What MotherF---r! You want some of this sh!!t? I will beat your stinkin' a-- for even asking me a question!
The End.
That explains why the skyfairy allows evil and suffering in the world.
I feel so warm and fuzzy knowing the answer now.
Dikotomii 1 month ago 2
I agree with the the video. Reality itself contradicts the whole Biblical concept that God will not allow us to experience more than we can bear. If it were true, the holocaust wouldn't have happened. We would never hear news stories of innocent girls being held in the basements of sick men and raped for years.
There is NO cap, no upper bounds, on the amount of evil that some invisible man allows to happen to us. Reality isn't based on warm fuzzy wishes, like those found in the original poem.
FactsBeforeFaith 1 month ago 4
Job's book
Dikotomii 1 month ago
@Dikotomii Oddly enough, perhaps, that is my favorite book of the bible. I sometimes wonder if there isn't some more esoteric meaning to it, in some of the wording. Off the top of my head I cannot remember, but isn't that the same book that God brags about creating good AND evil?
Jaybird196 1 month ago
"Why, when I needed you most, you have not been there for me?"
And the Lord replied, "Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone—...
rkyeun 1 month ago
@rkyeun Book of douschy god makes a bet right?
Jonstern1983 1 month ago
@Jonstern1983
You got it. :)
rkyeun 1 month ago
@rkyeun
Wtf are you talking about?
thedutchman01 1 month ago
@thedutchman01
That would be the book of Job, where Job cries out to God to explain the lowest points of suffering in his life. And God's response is to scream nonsense rabidly for three chapters.
rkyeun 1 month ago 3
@rkyeun
Ah. Yes... That wonderfull book about how loving their god is and where he makes a bet with the devil, where the devil gets to torture the poor man for no reason but to quench gods first for recognition.
Still amazed how those idiots see that as a story about god's love.
Thanks for the clarification though :)
thedutchman01 1 month ago 2
That was brilliant!
tacojohn9 1 month ago
I would just as soon have his footprints next to mine, instead of carrying me into a concentration camp. I used to say people where ignorant, now it is plain "STUPID"
Dwicker64 1 month ago
I like this conception of God. No sugar coated white man stuff. Demands a kind of Stoicism.
mistertakeda 1 month ago
And onto the slave ship.....
a300pilotster 1 month ago 16
@a300pilotster Oooo....that's another good angle!
brettppalmer 1 month ago 2
@brettppalmer And much more goodwin proof.
HealingBlight 1 month ago
@brettppalmer and into smallpox ridden blankets, The Trail of Tears
kelliko70 1 month ago
@kelliko70 I am referencing what Christians did to Native Americans when they got here.
kelliko70 1 month ago
added to my favorite list.
itsasin1969 1 month ago
To me...as soon as I looked into the sand and saw that there was only one set of foot prints...that would have been the moment that I realized that the whole time, I had an imaginary friend. And those foot prints where just mine...without him.
FishHeadSalad 1 month ago 6
Pure Guinness.
McPrfctday 1 month ago
Brett...perfect!...just perfect! Nothing like "god's plan"!
FishHeadSalad 1 month ago
I got a little choked up.
joestfrancois 1 month ago
Great video!!!! Thanks!!!
xXAnthony619Xx 1 month ago
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I sent a video-response about Craig's 'moral argument'. One of the comments there belongs here:
belfastfreethinker God commands Biblical genocide. His command makes it moral. Divine Command Theology should be renamed the Biblical Nuremberg Defence.
Heil Craig
dewinthemorning 1 month ago 2
DEEP.
Yahweigh 1 month ago
When I was a christian, the footprints in the sand thing was an encouragement. However, I didn't look at it from every angle.
connerjd 1 month ago
That was great! favourited :)
wounduppenguin 1 month ago
@brettppalmer I've never even heard any variant of this poem before. How does the original go?
GargamelGold 1 month ago
@GargamelGold I realize this wasn't directed at me, so I hope you'll forgive my butting in, but the original goes much the same way except no questioning of God's will after the " I carried you" bit.
ZJemptv has a variant that's pretty nice too, if you're interested :) .
Jaybird196 1 month ago
@Jaybird196
watch?v=3D4JQKVNWdo
Loved it as much as I expected.
Quintinohthree 1 month ago
@Quintinohthree That's great to hear that you enjoyed Zinnia's version as well :) . I find Zinnia's way more uplifting than the original as it returns dignity to person(s) who suffered and made it through a crappy situation.
Brett's is cool too. The dreamer realizes that having a dream so much as a nightmare, but he escapes ( y'know, if I'm understanding him properly) :) .
Jaybird196 1 month ago
@Jaybird196
Both are different expressions of the same overal view. The fact that they take on the original from completely different angles only shows how bad it is.
Quintinohthree 1 month ago
@Quintinohthree Ahh, thanks . Yes, I suppose it does seem to indicate that.
Jaybird196 1 month ago
@GargamelGold The original is the same up until the dreamer asks about the boxcar, concentration camp, and gas chamber. It pretty much just ends there instead.
Avicaris 1 month ago
@Avicaris That makes sense. I was just curious.
GargamelGold 1 month ago
This bothered me because I noticed one of the sets of footprints had webbed toes... ;)
Jaybird196 1 month ago 2
When god commands something, it's ok to do it, even if it's a sin without god's command. God commanded Abraham to kill Isaak, and it wouldn't have been murder for Abraham to kill Isaak because god commanded it." William Lane Craig
dewinthemorning 1 month ago 5
@dewinthemorning Yep...so there goes the idea that "good" is absolute. It's relative. It's whatever God decides it is.
brettppalmer 1 month ago 21
@brettppalmer Craig has theological weaponry to come out of that hole (what you say). - "God allows suffering to happen so that to bring people FREELY to choose god." Yes, you read it good, when people are in great suffering (concentration camp is an example), then they FREELY choose to believe in god!
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning
That still does not explain smallpox or cancer.
AntiCitizenX 1 month ago 10
@AntiCitizenX You are right. Read my reply to brettppalmer what Craig will answer to you as well. He is well-armed with theolothical weaponry...
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@AntiCitizenX Imagine little microbes walking along along the urinary tract with a little microbe Jesus, on their way to be prosperous and multiply,
HealingBlight 1 month ago
@HealingBlight I think Moses would be more apt. Jesus gathered others to him. More like a cancer infiltrating other cells. hehe sermon on the lump :D
ratholin 1 month ago
@AntiCitizenX I haven't seen the response you're replying to, but I've still got a good idea of the apologist claim. There is nothing new under the sun. :)
Maxdwolf 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning This is a joke right? The holocaust pretty much killed the practice of Judaism for about twenty years.
Dissapointment4 1 month ago
@Dissapointment4 I am just quoting William Lane Craig. I just made a video about his 'moral argument' and I have sent it as a response video to this video.
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning Tebow seems to be doing quite well and he freely chose God. Seems you don't need suffering to choose God. WLC is the ultimate moron.
brettppalmer 1 month ago 6
@brettppalmer "WLC is the ultimate moron." I concur.
dewinthemorning 1 month ago 2
@brettppalmer I suspect WLC isn't a moron. I propose a trilemma! He's either a liar, knowing full well that what he says is bullshit, a lunatic, incapable of understanding reality outside the confines of scripture, or Lucifer, actively seeking to do evil.
And he can't be a liar or a lunatic because... uh...
Therefore he must be Lucifer.
Sines314 1 month ago 2
@brettppalmer What? Not good enough for you? Picky, picky, picky! You'd probably complain if you were gassed with a new can of ZyklonB.
grant50 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning Jails and asylums are full of people who heard voices telling them to kill someone.
TheTomtuffy 1 month ago
Was this before or after the ten commandments? I mean REALLY, how's a man to know it's bad to murder your own son unless you have the timeless and unparallelled ten commandments on which to base your life's whole moral code:)?
GenericGenerator 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning i dropped in the conversation just to note that william lane craig has the LAMEST arguments ever. the only way he gets away with it is because the majority of the audience is dumber than him and that his opponent in debates just hasn't got the time to go one by one all the fallacies he makes.I've seen a debate where he won it with extreme ease (in the minds of the audience) just by repeating again and again "YOU DIDNT GIVE ME EVIDENCE THAT ATHEISM IS TRUE"
Samura1gamer 1 month ago
@Samura1gamer It's a non question. Do you believe a cow jumped over the moon. Probably not. Do you have evidence to support this?
pchtermino1 1 month ago
@Samura1gamer Someday, I'd like to see someone agree to debate WLC and just refuse to play his game.
"My opening and closing argument is..." proceed to quote WLC defending genocidal attrocities as the fault of the victims, "I cede the rest of my time to my opponent, as I'm certain you don't need me to help you figure out the depravity of this man, and I have better things to do. Good evening to you all." And then walk out.
I'd pay to see that in gold, frankiscense, AND mhyrr.
Sines314 1 month ago 2
@brettppalmer
As an atheist I have received that quaint story on all manner of items from bookmarks to those cheesy white plastic wall plaques sold in Christian stores. I wished I had had your interpretation to give the givers. Well done. Peace.
0gods 1 month ago
Wow, good shiznit
tostrong4you 1 month ago
I´ve thought similar thoughts when I heard that story.
kirafan68 1 month ago