Yes a Orthopaedic surgeon, but he now referred me to a foot specialist.
I know lots of people who have leg braces and live quite well, I believe I can too.
My insurance would cover the brace, but like anything no gurantee it will work. I must have really messed up my foor pretty bad is all I can say. I have 9 screws and a bar holding my bones together. X-rays show they are in place, it is my tendons that are messed up now. My achille tendon sadly cannot be fixed.
@aaasssfffdddiii Provide us with one study showing Canadians are dying waiting for care. Save your time, there aren't any. Canadians have NO wait times for urgent care. PERIOD. I know this, BECAUSE I LIVE HERE. We have all the same technology as the U.S. that EVERYONE can access, not just those with insurance or who can afford it.
How long do the millions of Americans with crappy coverage, no coverage and can't afford it wait?? Oh yes, FOREVER. Keep your shitty system!!!
Hi there! Hey listen, I went to my doctor today. Bad news. He wants me to have reconstructive surgery on my leg which will keep me in bed for 4 months.
I told him, sorry, can't do it. You see I get health insurance through work. Its only valid as long as I keep on working. So if I have to the surgery, I miss 4 months of work, no earnings, and if I don't earn I can't continue to pay my health premiums.
So I'm not having surgery because its not feasible.
WEll here's the deal. I'm happy I got into this job. Its more money than I ever got paid.
I had a pre-existing health condition, and could not buy health insurance on the private market. It had to be in a work based group plan where pre-existing conditions are not a problem.
I'm still on probation period until July which will be one year service. No short term disability. I get healthcare, vision, prescription drug plan, two weeks vacation, 6 incidental days, and 1 personal da
So I'm happy I finally got insurance through work, but its only valid as long as I work.
After two years of service, I will get short term disability, but not now.
I have basically three choices: 1) Have the surgery, and it is no gurantee it will work; 2) See another specialist to see about putting a brace on my bad left leg to correct it; or 3) Do nothing and just accept it.
At the moment I'm ok, but overtime my left leg will become more damaged.
@pluto4847 Geez, that's too bad. Its stories like yours that you will never hear about from Fox News. If I was in your position, I would do exactly the same thing. Have you broached the subject with your employer? Maybe they can be flexible?
Have I broached the subject with my employer? Of course. They knew from the beginning I had a bad leg, but they said I could work for them as long as my disability would not interfere with my duties. So I'm lucky they hired me.
You see my point is, yes its great having health insurance, but will it actually help you when you need it? I can see a doctor anytime, but in order to keep my benefits, I must keep my earnings up so they can be deducted to pay for the plan.
If I miss 4 mon ths, I lose my job and my benefits and by that time I could not afford the surgery anyway. So its like a catch 22.
In these hard economic times, jobs are hard to come by. And I would feel so out of place being out of work for 4 months. I need to earn a wage to continue paying my bills.
So right now I'm considering having a brace put on my damaged leg to correct it. It would not stop me from working, and I could accept that.
But having surgery which may not work is too much of a risk for me. About a year ago, I had a bad fall. The doctor messed me up and didn't do a good job.
I get so annoyed when doctors are so keen to do surgery. There are alternatives. I could even have custom made orthotic devices to help me become a more mobile in my left leg.
The doctor I had before really messed me up, and its harder than you think to file malpractice suit. It really is. This guy has too much of a backup, and has a 10 star rating. There is no way I could win.
So I know what I have to do. I won't get the surgery, I'll just get the brace attavched to my leg. The doctor would not tell me if it would be a permanent solution, but its my best bet now.
I won't die, but overtime I will become more disabled. I'm not worried at all. There are lots of alternatives. Braces, ortotic devices, and if it came between surgery or amputation--I would choose amputation and just get a new left foot.
All they can do to save my left foot is surgery which will fuse my foot permanetely in place, and that's no life. So maybe a few years from now I'll just get a new one.
I coun t my blessings I can walk again. I walk with a cane now--probably forever, but I keep thinking--I could be much worse. I can do all my duties with a cane, its not a problem and in fact I tend to do them better because I try harder to compensate for my disability.
@pluto4847 Again, that positive attitude will take you places. Have a couple of friends of mine that are Ortho's. A great Ortho means a lot. I know you can appreciate that. My colleague blew out her achillies last year. In bed for an entire month's straight, then crutches for sometime. Pretty much back to normal. She was lucky and unlucky. Great thing about our system, even if she lost her job (she didn't), she still would have been covered.
I hear you. Its always nerve racking to ask a physician how bad or how good something will be. I basically broke 70% of my foot bones and I snapped my distol fibula.
When I was recovering in bed, it was hell. I would never want to go through that again.
So today he said he'd like to do the surgery on me, but I opted for an alternative.
I can live like this. I am limited. I am slow. But I can still drive a car. My right foot is not effected at all.
How did I mess it up? It happened like this. One day it was a blizzard outside. I live on a hill. I slipped on some ice, slid all the way down my hill into a tree trunk and snap--my left foot turned backwards, and my bones were sticking right out. It was horrible.
LOL, before my injury I was a very athletic person. I didn't hardly have any health problems at all until I damaged my leg. It was the first time I was in the Emergen cy Room. I lost a lot of blood too.
@pluto4847 Well, we have to pay extra for Fox, which I don't do.
Harper is Ok, I voted for the Conservatives, which are just a little right of center. And your right, he would never cut our benefits. Nor would the individual provinces either.
Dion, however, is no longer the leader of the Liberal party after being beaten in the last national election.
Hey as an American allow me to apologise to the canadian people for the stupidity of Fox News pundits who put put down Canadian healthcare. I think its great what your country is doing.
We have universal healthcare in Massasschusetts and soon to be in Vermont. So we are getting there. Thank you Canada.
So you work in the phrma industry. Cool. I am currently on a prescription pill called Meloxicam. It helps with the swelling, and its excellent pain rellief.
How old are you? What do you do for a living? What part of Canada are you from? I've visited Canada, I enjoyed myself there. People were very down to earth and friendly.
I focus on what I can do, not what I can't. I can now move my foot up and down, but I can't move it left or right. It is permanetely fixed like that.
I have a special cane that helps ease the pain of walking. On my best days, I can sometimes walk with no cane, and on my worst days I rely on the cane.
My bones are now fused again so that's good news. My ligaments--not so good, but I can get around it.
Yes I did extensive physio. And many might say I hardly improved at all, but I think I did. They got me out of a wheel chair. THan I started using crutches. THan I started using just one crutch, and than I graduated with the cane.
Now because of the damage, the cane is as far as I went, but considering how bad I was--it is a major improvement. I can walk again and do things for myself.
Well I'm getting braces instead. That in theory should work. Some days I don't need the cane, but at times I need it just to get out of a chair. If I sit too long in one place I hasve to stand for awhile and just get feeling back in my leg again.
@aaasssfffdddiii For your doctor quote, David Gratzer said that. Who is so far in the pockets of the U.S. Insurance Industry that he can taste their balls. He is a LYING piece of shit that is FOR U.S. style health insurance coming into Canada. He is the most Biased person you could find and lies through his teeth to support HIS agenda. You want to see what technology we have, hop on a plane and I'll show you around our well equipped hospitals. You won't, as you don't want to see the TRUTH!
@MadHabber93 First, Gratzer was quoting another Doctor when he said that. Gratzer knows far more about Health Care than you do. And it is no coincidence that he is from Canada, just like Sally Pipes who also opposes Universal Health Care. They actaully have first hand experience with how bad Single Payer is.
Canada is well behind us in medical technology. Almost no medical innovations comes from Canada. And they have about 1/5 as many MRIs and CT Scans per capita as us...
@aaasssfffdddiii Saly Pipes is another one in the pockets of the Insurance industry. Her and Gratzer both provide misinformation, misleading information, anecdotal evidience (especially Pipes) and right out LIES. THey are both FULL OF SHIT.
Canada has about 1/3 the amount of MRI's, but are used on a 24/7 basis, unlike the States. Any urgent cases get MRI's right away, like my colleague did, our friends daughter did, etc. If you can't afford one in the States YOU DON'T GET and MRI at ALL!!
@MadHabber93 Is that why 57% of Canadian Doctors say that people have long waiting lines for Diagnostic tests, as compared to only 9% of Doctors in the states...
You may have to pay for MRIs in AMerica, but you don't have to wait six months... (enough time for many cancers to become incurable).
@aaasssfffdddiii We don't wait 6 months for MRI's. I waited 10 days for mine, and that was for a non-emergency. Current posted wait times for non-urgent MRI's in the city I live in, London, Ontairo is 39 days. And that's 90% receiving one in that time. The provincial wait time is just over 3 months. Again, that's 90% getting one. There are no wait times for urgent MRI's such as for cancer.
Plus, one good is a cancer diagnosis if you can't pay to have it treated??
@MadHabber93 First, Americans can afford to pay for it. If you can't, we have programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and SCHIP, so the poor and elderly still get Health Care.
Your one story doesnt change the fact that Canadians, on average, wait far longer for MRIs than Americans
@aaasssfffdddiii On average, for non-urgent conditions, vs. those with insurance yes. But you know that many just can't afford it. There are many that fall throught the cracks of medicare and medicaide, that aren't considered 'poor' or are not over 65.
@MadHabber93 Not true, about a third of our uninsured could be in Medicaid or SCHIP. Another third, make well above the average income and simply choose not to buy insurance. So, yes, a small fraction of Americans can't afford Health Insurance, but it is only a very small amount (around 2%). But Hospitals in America in America are still required to treat anyone, regardless of ability to pay. A vast majority of Americans have better access to MRIs and other medical technology than Canadians...
@MadHabber93 Okay, the 2% was more of an estimate. I do know, however, that the 16% of Americans are without insurance figure is far too high. Once you factor in income and people who apply for public healht care programs, the actual figure is dramatically lower...
@aaasssfffdddiii My guess would be closer to 10%, but many are underinsured too. With high deductibles and premiums. We don't have those. Co-pays either.
@MadHabber93 There's nothing wrong with high deductible plans. In fact, i think we need to move more in that direction. The problem with our Health Care system is that so many are far removed from the actual Health Care Cost, which takes away their incentive to control costs...
10% seems way to high. A third of our uninsured already apply for a free public health program. Another third make over $75K a year. Another 20% or so are illegal immigrants. That leaves about 4 or 5%
@MadHabber93 The honest truth is that they were counted to make our system sound worse. The figure that states 46 Million are uninsured in America counts almost all of the 14 Million IIlegal Immigrants simply because it makes our system sound as if it were worse off than it actually is. You must realize that those large numbers were invented by people who want to get rid of private medicine in America...
I lived in England, and I'm an American. I got treated right away when I got food poisoned. No bills. No questions asked. Universal healthcare does work.
But to be honest with you, the English don't really like Americans. So now I am back in America, but I will move to New England to get better healthcasre.
Beat that you Rush Limbaugh burger eating wannabe. Ha1
@aaasssfffdddiii you wrote "And, you can ignore the fact that brits have to wait in absurd lines to get shitty ass health care... Ya, great system"
Actually they don't have to wait in long lines. That's a lie the right use to scare people. And even if they did that's better than waiting forever which is what we were doing here in America since most insurance companies will drop you once you get sick.
No wait a minute. I had a friend called Dave who developed terminal cancer. He was a brit.
Britain's healthcare system didn't put him on a waiting list, he was seen to right away.
So I suggest you get off your high horse before you make any pre-conceived judgements. You want me to be wrong because you can't step outside your own little world and experience it for yourself.
Hey, don't let me stop your opinions, but don't trample on mine. I choose to move to Vermont when they get single payer. So whilst you wish to ramble on and on about how bad social medicine is, its not your decision to make.
Its up to the State of Vermont. And I don't have any problems moving to that state and getting universal healthcare, while you get left with your greedy pro-health insurance lobbyists robbing you blind. Its your life dude.
you also won't mention that there are studies done that if the doctor has access to Mri's or CT's he's gonna order them.. -- wether or not the patient needs it --
This is GREAT, YAY for Vermont, I really hope it works and it shows these greedy ignorant republicans and tea-baggers that they are so WRONG!
I might even sell out and get out of this nightmare on state street Paul LePage-land.
The state of Maine is going back to the dark ages. Our once great compassionate state has become a state of ignorant tea-baggers, I'm sure if they had their way they would build gas chambers and crematories and march the elderly and disabled into them. Terrible people.
Great video... universal health care is so important, and once you get it, I agree, it will pay itself off. If people don't wait to see a doctor until they can't live without one, it's going to cost more.
As someone with a number of health aliments, and one of the people likely to be considered having "preexisting conditions" even though they are really medical conditions I was born with, we desperately need this in our country.
It amazes how so many people think they have a right to essentially force other people to bare the cost of their eating habits, smoking, drinking, ect.Pay for your own health care.You are not entitled to free health care.I'm not defending the status que and we hardly have a free market driven system, our health care system, for all it's faults, has produced the technological innovation that's makes modern medicine possible in those countries with socialized medicine.
First of all, health care is not a right.Other people should not be obligated to pay for your health care.Second, a single payer system is not the only other option and it's not the best, most cost effective system, and third...the media is filled with misinformation.For example, the reasons europians live longer than us is because of reasons that have nothing to do with health care.Americans are fat, more likely to die in car accidents, and get shot.
@homoguy563 So the people who get "free" healthcare, the care you decry, still decide to live healthier lives, drive less or more safe, and dont think guns are awesome stuff?
Cool, maybe when we get UHC we can also start living more like them.
You are right yet you are wrong. Healthcare might not be a right in your state, but it will be a right in Vermont.
So how about this, let healthcare be up to the States. If you are not from Vermont why let it effect you, but at the same time please let the State of Vermont and its people to do what they want.
I'm from Pennsylvania by the way, and you know what dude? I'm moving to Vermont where healthcare will be a right.
@pluto4847 You know what?I actually agree with you, provided it stays at the state level.If Vermont starts asking for federal subsidies to pay for it, it's only going to prove the point conservatives and libertarians are trying to make.
Hey this is news to me as well. I believe one of the ways Vermont will pay for its healthcare is by a small payroll tax. I believe the estimate was 3% payroll tax on all employees in Vermont to pay for it, and a slightly higher sales tax on all goods.
That's virtually less than people would pay for private insurance.
I love that Progressive Old Dude Bernie Sanders. I wish that there were more progressives like him actually fighting for the their own causes, instead of caving constantly to republicans like Weak dems do.
How do you get Canadian style health care? Not that hard. It's basically just a Social Insurance program. While it's a great step in the right direction, as a Canadian I'd like newcomers to universal health care to model their new system after more even more successful systems. But I guess the logic in modeling health care after the countries whose system has the best ratings in all social indicators is completely unconvincing if it happens to be highly socialized...
Oh What will happen to all those poor private insurance CEOs who close down peoples health care when they get cancer? What about the summer home in Majorca and all those who depend on those CEOs...like the prestige gas sucking car pig market, the cocaine market, the $10,000 an hour call girl market, the private Lear Jet industry, and those poor Republican politicians who depend on all the campaign contributions? Oh we can't help out the average American...that would be socialism...oh no!
Yes a Orthopaedic surgeon, but he now referred me to a foot specialist.
I know lots of people who have leg braces and live quite well, I believe I can too.
My insurance would cover the brace, but like anything no gurantee it will work. I must have really messed up my foor pretty bad is all I can say. I have 9 screws and a bar holding my bones together. X-rays show they are in place, it is my tendons that are messed up now. My achille tendon sadly cannot be fixed.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
Ya, the Canadian System is great.... if you are willing to wait....
41% of Canadians wait 2 or more months to see a specialist...
Wow, what a great system
Canadians die waiting for care, they have almost no medical technology.
The technology they do have is outdated...
One Canadian Doctor was quoted as saying: "Canada has some of the best health care the 1970s can provide. But it's the turn of the millennium."
Ya, great model for America...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Provide us with one study showing Canadians are dying waiting for care. Save your time, there aren't any. Canadians have NO wait times for urgent care. PERIOD. I know this, BECAUSE I LIVE HERE. We have all the same technology as the U.S. that EVERYONE can access, not just those with insurance or who can afford it.
How long do the millions of Americans with crappy coverage, no coverage and can't afford it wait?? Oh yes, FOREVER. Keep your shitty system!!!
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93
Hey dude, I'm an American and I agree with you 100%. I used to work in England under a work visa and they had a great healthcare system.
But don't put all of us Americans in the same boat. I want Universal healthcare just like you have so I am making a decision to move to Vermont.
Peace.
pluto4847 1 month ago
@pluto4847 I hear ya. Been to Vermont. Great State! Good luck with the move. Cheers.
MadHabber93 1 month ago
@MadHabber93
Hi there! Hey listen, I went to my doctor today. Bad news. He wants me to have reconstructive surgery on my leg which will keep me in bed for 4 months.
I told him, sorry, can't do it. You see I get health insurance through work. Its only valid as long as I keep on working. So if I have to the surgery, I miss 4 months of work, no earnings, and if I don't earn I can't continue to pay my health premiums.
So I'm not having surgery because its not feasible.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Seriously?? That sucks man. Does your employer not allow short disability while still being able to keep your benefits?
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
WEll here's the deal. I'm happy I got into this job. Its more money than I ever got paid.
I had a pre-existing health condition, and could not buy health insurance on the private market. It had to be in a work based group plan where pre-existing conditions are not a problem.
I'm still on probation period until July which will be one year service. No short term disability. I get healthcare, vision, prescription drug plan, two weeks vacation, 6 incidental days, and 1 personal da
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
So I'm happy I finally got insurance through work, but its only valid as long as I work.
After two years of service, I will get short term disability, but not now.
I have basically three choices: 1) Have the surgery, and it is no gurantee it will work; 2) See another specialist to see about putting a brace on my bad left leg to correct it; or 3) Do nothing and just accept it.
At the moment I'm ok, but overtime my left leg will become more damaged.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Geez, that's too bad. Its stories like yours that you will never hear about from Fox News. If I was in your position, I would do exactly the same thing. Have you broached the subject with your employer? Maybe they can be flexible?
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Have I broached the subject with my employer? Of course. They knew from the beginning I had a bad leg, but they said I could work for them as long as my disability would not interfere with my duties. So I'm lucky they hired me.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 That's a big catch 22. I truly wish you the best. Our system is not perfect, but I would never give it up.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Can I get a second opinion in Canada?
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Yes, you could get a second opinion in Canada, but would need a referral to a specialist here. Your insurance wouldn't cover you though.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
You see my point is, yes its great having health insurance, but will it actually help you when you need it? I can see a doctor anytime, but in order to keep my benefits, I must keep my earnings up so they can be deducted to pay for the plan.
If I miss 4 mon ths, I lose my job and my benefits and by that time I could not afford the surgery anyway. So its like a catch 22.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
In these hard economic times, jobs are hard to come by. And I would feel so out of place being out of work for 4 months. I need to earn a wage to continue paying my bills.
So right now I'm considering having a brace put on my damaged leg to correct it. It would not stop me from working, and I could accept that.
But having surgery which may not work is too much of a risk for me. About a year ago, I had a bad fall. The doctor messed me up and didn't do a good job.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
I get so annoyed when doctors are so keen to do surgery. There are alternatives. I could even have custom made orthotic devices to help me become a more mobile in my left leg.
The doctor I had before really messed me up, and its harder than you think to file malpractice suit. It really is. This guy has too much of a backup, and has a 10 star rating. There is no way I could win.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
So I know what I have to do. I won't get the surgery, I'll just get the brace attavched to my leg. The doctor would not tell me if it would be a permanent solution, but its my best bet now.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
I won't die, but overtime I will become more disabled. I'm not worried at all. There are lots of alternatives. Braces, ortotic devices, and if it came between surgery or amputation--I would choose amputation and just get a new left foot.
All they can do to save my left foot is surgery which will fuse my foot permanetely in place, and that's no life. So maybe a few years from now I'll just get a new one.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 You have a great attitude. No wonder they hired you!!
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Yeah no big deal. Hey I know it sounds drastic, but basically my left foot is screwed--literally. So I'll get a new one.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Orthopedic surgeon?
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
I coun t my blessings I can walk again. I walk with a cane now--probably forever, but I keep thinking--I could be much worse. I can do all my duties with a cane, its not a problem and in fact I tend to do them better because I try harder to compensate for my disability.
No more shooting hoops anymore, unfortunately.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Again, that positive attitude will take you places. Have a couple of friends of mine that are Ortho's. A great Ortho means a lot. I know you can appreciate that. My colleague blew out her achillies last year. In bed for an entire month's straight, then crutches for sometime. Pretty much back to normal. She was lucky and unlucky. Great thing about our system, even if she lost her job (she didn't), she still would have been covered.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
I hear you. Its always nerve racking to ask a physician how bad or how good something will be. I basically broke 70% of my foot bones and I snapped my distol fibula.
When I was recovering in bed, it was hell. I would never want to go through that again.
So today he said he'd like to do the surgery on me, but I opted for an alternative.
I can live like this. I am limited. I am slow. But I can still drive a car. My right foot is not effected at all.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 How the hell did you mess it up that bad?
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
How did I mess it up? It happened like this. One day it was a blizzard outside. I live on a hill. I slipped on some ice, slid all the way down my hill into a tree trunk and snap--my left foot turned backwards, and my bones were sticking right out. It was horrible.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Holy shit. I winced just from the description. And I thought breaking my finger was hurt.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
LOL, before my injury I was a very athletic person. I didn't hardly have any health problems at all until I damaged my leg. It was the first time I was in the Emergen cy Room. I lost a lot of blood too.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Ouch. It's probably your athletic background that helped you in your recovery.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
It was my will to recover. Sadly sometimes things can never be the same as they were, but I can walk again. I have a good paying job with benefits.
I'm not superman either, I just try to get by the bdest way I can. Yes I do get frustrated and very depressed at times.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 How old you are you? What is your new job? I see you have scientist down in your profile.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
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pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Very cool. My background is a degree in Biochem, but work in the pharma industry now.
I live in London, Ontario and 42 years old. Married with 2 kids. Crack me up everyday.
I visit the U.S. quite often. Always treated very well.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
So you get Fox News in Canada too? Wow.
You know Obama is doing his best to help the uninsured in this country, and REpublicans just put him down for it.
I know that Steven Harper is a Conservative, but you won't see him cutting your universal benefits.
But I like Staphone Dion. He seems to be better than Harper. I hope he will be Prime MInister.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Well, we have to pay extra for Fox, which I don't do.
Harper is Ok, I voted for the Conservatives, which are just a little right of center. And your right, he would never cut our benefits. Nor would the individual provinces either.
Dion, however, is no longer the leader of the Liberal party after being beaten in the last national election.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Hey as an American allow me to apologise to the canadian people for the stupidity of Fox News pundits who put put down Canadian healthcare. I think its great what your country is doing.
We have universal healthcare in Massasschusetts and soon to be in Vermont. So we are getting there. Thank you Canada.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
So you work in the phrma industry. Cool. I am currently on a prescription pill called Meloxicam. It helps with the swelling, and its excellent pain rellief.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Findng a good pain reliever is not easy. Glad it works well for you.
Well, gotta retire for the night. Wife calling. ; ) Good luck with your foot, no matter what you decide. Nice chattin.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
You know I could have died. Seriously.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 You definitely could have died, I believe it. Wasn't your time. Your will was too strong.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
How old are you? What do you do for a living? What part of Canada are you from? I've visited Canada, I enjoyed myself there. People were very down to earth and friendly.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Forrest Gump had to wear a leg brace so if he could do it, I can.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 Haha You got that right.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
I focus on what I can do, not what I can't. I can now move my foot up and down, but I can't move it left or right. It is permanetely fixed like that.
I have a special cane that helps ease the pain of walking. On my best days, I can sometimes walk with no cane, and on my worst days I rely on the cane.
My bones are now fused again so that's good news. My ligaments--not so good, but I can get around it.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 I'm assuming you've tried physio.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Yes I did extensive physio. And many might say I hardly improved at all, but I think I did. They got me out of a wheel chair. THan I started using crutches. THan I started using just one crutch, and than I graduated with the cane.
Now because of the damage, the cane is as far as I went, but considering how bad I was--it is a major improvement. I can walk again and do things for myself.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@pluto4847 I'd say that's a huge advancement. Based on what you've told me. I wouldn't do the surgery. Maybe you'll graduate from the cane as well.
MadHabber93 4 weeks ago
@MadHabber93
Well I'm getting braces instead. That in theory should work. Some days I don't need the cane, but at times I need it just to get out of a chair. If I sit too long in one place I hasve to stand for awhile and just get feeling back in my leg again.
pluto4847 4 weeks ago
@aaasssfffdddiii For your doctor quote, David Gratzer said that. Who is so far in the pockets of the U.S. Insurance Industry that he can taste their balls. He is a LYING piece of shit that is FOR U.S. style health insurance coming into Canada. He is the most Biased person you could find and lies through his teeth to support HIS agenda. You want to see what technology we have, hop on a plane and I'll show you around our well equipped hospitals. You won't, as you don't want to see the TRUTH!
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 First, Gratzer was quoting another Doctor when he said that. Gratzer knows far more about Health Care than you do. And it is no coincidence that he is from Canada, just like Sally Pipes who also opposes Universal Health Care. They actaully have first hand experience with how bad Single Payer is.
Canada is well behind us in medical technology. Almost no medical innovations comes from Canada. And they have about 1/5 as many MRIs and CT Scans per capita as us...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Saly Pipes is another one in the pockets of the Insurance industry. Her and Gratzer both provide misinformation, misleading information, anecdotal evidience (especially Pipes) and right out LIES. THey are both FULL OF SHIT.
Canada has about 1/3 the amount of MRI's, but are used on a 24/7 basis, unlike the States. Any urgent cases get MRI's right away, like my colleague did, our friends daughter did, etc. If you can't afford one in the States YOU DON'T GET and MRI at ALL!!
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 Is that why 57% of Canadian Doctors say that people have long waiting lines for Diagnostic tests, as compared to only 9% of Doctors in the states...
You may have to pay for MRIs in AMerica, but you don't have to wait six months... (enough time for many cancers to become incurable).
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii We don't wait 6 months for MRI's. I waited 10 days for mine, and that was for a non-emergency. Current posted wait times for non-urgent MRI's in the city I live in, London, Ontairo is 39 days. And that's 90% receiving one in that time. The provincial wait time is just over 3 months. Again, that's 90% getting one. There are no wait times for urgent MRI's such as for cancer.
Plus, one good is a cancer diagnosis if you can't pay to have it treated??
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 First, Americans can afford to pay for it. If you can't, we have programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and SCHIP, so the poor and elderly still get Health Care.
Your one story doesnt change the fact that Canadians, on average, wait far longer for MRIs than Americans
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii On average, for non-urgent conditions, vs. those with insurance yes. But you know that many just can't afford it. There are many that fall throught the cracks of medicare and medicaide, that aren't considered 'poor' or are not over 65.
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 Not true, about a third of our uninsured could be in Medicaid or SCHIP. Another third, make well above the average income and simply choose not to buy insurance. So, yes, a small fraction of Americans can't afford Health Insurance, but it is only a very small amount (around 2%). But Hospitals in America in America are still required to treat anyone, regardless of ability to pay. A vast majority of Americans have better access to MRIs and other medical technology than Canadians...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii SOrry, don't buy the 2%. Not from all the sources I've read.
Remember, ER's in the States are only required to treat to stabalization, not past that. Millions of Americans fall through the cracks.
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 Okay, the 2% was more of an estimate. I do know, however, that the 16% of Americans are without insurance figure is far too high. Once you factor in income and people who apply for public healht care programs, the actual figure is dramatically lower...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii My guess would be closer to 10%, but many are underinsured too. With high deductibles and premiums. We don't have those. Co-pays either.
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 There's nothing wrong with high deductible plans. In fact, i think we need to move more in that direction. The problem with our Health Care system is that so many are far removed from the actual Health Care Cost, which takes away their incentive to control costs...
10% seems way to high. A third of our uninsured already apply for a free public health program. Another third make over $75K a year. Another 20% or so are illegal immigrants. That leaves about 4 or 5%
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii I've asked this of other Americans, if they are illegal immigrants and therefore not in the system, how can they be counted?
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 The honest truth is that they were counted to make our system sound worse. The figure that states 46 Million are uninsured in America counts almost all of the 14 Million IIlegal Immigrants simply because it makes our system sound as if it were worse off than it actually is. You must realize that those large numbers were invented by people who want to get rid of private medicine in America...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii Again, how can you count somone who doesn't exist?
MadHabber93 8 months ago
@MadHabber93 I agree, I don't think they should be counted. However, the numbers are estimates...
aaasssfffdddiii 8 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii at half the cost. if canada increased its cost (or co-pays) by 20%. those lineups would disappear.
not to mention our conservative prime minister hiring more doctors and nurses from america to work in canada.
lloydmauler 5 months ago
@lloydmauler Ya, this was a useless comment. America uses cost to ration. Canada uses wait times to ration.
I don't see why one is better than the other...
aaasssfffdddiii 5 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
I lived in England, and I'm an American. I got treated right away when I got food poisoned. No bills. No questions asked. Universal healthcare does work.
But to be honest with you, the English don't really like Americans. So now I am back in America, but I will move to New England to get better healthcasre.
Beat that you Rush Limbaugh burger eating wannabe. Ha1
pluto4847 4 months ago
@pluto4847 Oh, so your experience means that it works for everyone?
I guess you don't understand statistics.
And, you can ignore the fact that brits have to wait in absurd lines to get shitty ass health care... Ya, great system
aaasssfffdddiii 4 months ago
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@aaasssfffdddiii you wrote "And, you can ignore the fact that brits have to wait in absurd lines to get shitty ass health care... Ya, great system"
Actually they don't have to wait in long lines. That's a lie the right use to scare people. And even if they did that's better than waiting forever which is what we were doing here in America since most insurance companies will drop you once you get sick.
luvitluvitbaby 3 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
No wait a minute. I had a friend called Dave who developed terminal cancer. He was a brit.
Britain's healthcare system didn't put him on a waiting list, he was seen to right away.
So I suggest you get off your high horse before you make any pre-conceived judgements. You want me to be wrong because you can't step outside your own little world and experience it for yourself.
pluto4847 1 month ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
I take it you have not traveled a lot in your time. Werll I have. I have worked and visited Englasnd, Scotland, France, Germany, and Holland.
Its easy for you to just discredit my experience on social medicine because you yourself have never attempted to put yourself in my shoes.
Isn't that always the case. Well, it doesn't matter what you think or believe of my experience because you obviously weren't there with me?
pluto4847 1 month ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
Hey, don't let me stop your opinions, but don't trample on mine. I choose to move to Vermont when they get single payer. So whilst you wish to ramble on and on about how bad social medicine is, its not your decision to make.
Its up to the State of Vermont. And I don't have any problems moving to that state and getting universal healthcare, while you get left with your greedy pro-health insurance lobbyists robbing you blind. Its your life dude.
pluto4847 1 month ago
@pluto4847 The fact of the matter is that central planning is an utter failure.
The market is much better at distributing goods than a central bureacracy.
aaasssfffdddiii 2 days ago
@aaasssfffdddiii
I hear what you are saying. I don't mind paying for healthcare, but if I am going to pay for it I want answers.
About a month ago I was scheduled to see an Orthopedic specialist. On the day of my appointment, the Orthopedist was not even there.
It was some intern doctor talking a lot of bullshit, and basically told me what I already knew.
My out of pocket costs were $255, and I'm no better off from seeing him than I was before.
I wasted my time.
pluto4847 1 day ago
@pluto4847 That sucks, lol.
aaasssfffdddiii 4 hours ago
@aaasssfffdddiii yeah .we're literally freezing cancer.. Good luck with your lies broski
lloydmauler 5 months ago
you also won't mention that there are studies done that if the doctor has access to Mri's or CT's he's gonna order them.. -- wether or not the patient needs it --
lloydmauler 5 months ago
America is late to the modern society party train.
Neosaigo 8 months ago
This is GREAT, YAY for Vermont, I really hope it works and it shows these greedy ignorant republicans and tea-baggers that they are so WRONG!
I might even sell out and get out of this nightmare on state street Paul LePage-land.
The state of Maine is going back to the dark ages. Our once great compassionate state has become a state of ignorant tea-baggers, I'm sure if they had their way they would build gas chambers and crematories and march the elderly and disabled into them. Terrible people.
dale3858 9 months ago
We need more doctors in the US whether we use a public or private system. i believe public is the way to go fyi.
Tony007corp 9 months ago
Great video... universal health care is so important, and once you get it, I agree, it will pay itself off. If people don't wait to see a doctor until they can't live without one, it's going to cost more.
As someone with a number of health aliments, and one of the people likely to be considered having "preexisting conditions" even though they are really medical conditions I was born with, we desperately need this in our country.
EngineeringIsMagic 9 months ago
Great information. I hope UHC comes to the USA>
msaprilbaby16 9 months ago
It amazes how so many people think they have a right to essentially force other people to bare the cost of their eating habits, smoking, drinking, ect.Pay for your own health care.You are not entitled to free health care.I'm not defending the status que and we hardly have a free market driven system, our health care system, for all it's faults, has produced the technological innovation that's makes modern medicine possible in those countries with socialized medicine.
homoguy563 9 months ago
First of all, health care is not a right.Other people should not be obligated to pay for your health care.Second, a single payer system is not the only other option and it's not the best, most cost effective system, and third...the media is filled with misinformation.For example, the reasons europians live longer than us is because of reasons that have nothing to do with health care.Americans are fat, more likely to die in car accidents, and get shot.
homoguy563 9 months ago
@homoguy563 So the people who get "free" healthcare, the care you decry, still decide to live healthier lives, drive less or more safe, and dont think guns are awesome stuff?
Cool, maybe when we get UHC we can also start living more like them.
waltermh111 9 months ago 2
@homoguy563
You are right yet you are wrong. Healthcare might not be a right in your state, but it will be a right in Vermont.
So how about this, let healthcare be up to the States. If you are not from Vermont why let it effect you, but at the same time please let the State of Vermont and its people to do what they want.
I'm from Pennsylvania by the way, and you know what dude? I'm moving to Vermont where healthcare will be a right.
pluto4847 1 month ago
@pluto4847 You know what?I actually agree with you, provided it stays at the state level.If Vermont starts asking for federal subsidies to pay for it, it's only going to prove the point conservatives and libertarians are trying to make.
homoguy563 1 month ago
@homoguy563
LOL, Federal subsidies. THat's a big joke. What good has the FEd ever been to the people? Not very much.
Most of the time, the States have been the true champions of the people. The Fed is just a fancy little pretense that really means nothing at all.
So yes, I'm glad you agree that Healthcare should be left to the States, and not the Fed. I can agree with that one.
pluto4847 1 month ago
@homoguy563
Hey this is news to me as well. I believe one of the ways Vermont will pay for its healthcare is by a small payroll tax. I believe the estimate was 3% payroll tax on all employees in Vermont to pay for it, and a slightly higher sales tax on all goods.
That's virtually less than people would pay for private insurance.
pluto4847 1 month ago
Respond to this video... Great news
4me2cclearly 9 months ago
@TheElMoIsEviL Interesting
TheDailyConversation 9 months ago
I love that Progressive Old Dude Bernie Sanders. I wish that there were more progressives like him actually fighting for the their own causes, instead of caving constantly to republicans like Weak dems do.
mrx0066600 9 months ago
Its about damn time this country moved into the modern age.
bamboo4tameshigiri 9 months ago 11
@bamboo4tameshigiri
Here here!
mrx0066600 9 months ago
How do you get Canadian style health care? Not that hard. It's basically just a Social Insurance program. While it's a great step in the right direction, as a Canadian I'd like newcomers to universal health care to model their new system after more even more successful systems. But I guess the logic in modeling health care after the countries whose system has the best ratings in all social indicators is completely unconvincing if it happens to be highly socialized...
dookiecheez 9 months ago
Thank goodness. I hope it catches on. No more $500 per month healthcare plans PLEASE lol
PeaceRocker01 9 months ago
maybe this will be the first domino in many towards universal healthcare
42Unknowns 9 months ago
Universal Health Care, Wow! That would be great.
OhioDemocrat 9 months ago
Oh What will happen to all those poor private insurance CEOs who close down peoples health care when they get cancer? What about the summer home in Majorca and all those who depend on those CEOs...like the prestige gas sucking car pig market, the cocaine market, the $10,000 an hour call girl market, the private Lear Jet industry, and those poor Republican politicians who depend on all the campaign contributions? Oh we can't help out the average American...that would be socialism...oh no!
seamoremonster 9 months ago
I'm not going to lie, it's nice to listen to TDC stroke my country for a while.
Make no mistake, Canadian healthcare isn't perfect; however seems to be much better than American, right on Vermont
carygoleman 9 months ago
We NEED single payer desperately.
videoguy604 9 months ago
It's really nice to see independant senators work so hard... I just hope some other states will vote for some to...
You guys are great btw =)
Prometheukles 9 months ago