Grind Time Presents: Thesaurus vs Illmaculate Part 1 of 3

[KushAndColdBeer]

its so funny in all these videos the hosts think they are so bad ass

[imissspongebob]

Thesaurus better at freestyle, immaculate better writer. IMO.

[ugotparred]

why isnt this the most viewed battle, pure legendary shit spitted by 2 legends

[johnykoop]

What happened to GT? seriously can someone who knows the truth tell me?

[lopezwest213]

Damn these niggas went at it,close rounds man,part 1 of 3 I give to Illmaculate,only because the way he put it all together at the end,won my vote !! Thesaurus is good too!!

[MrShaqzilla]

Who won

[LyricalStatus1]

DIZASTER VS DOMS

[101andwhat]

organik in the background. two legends and absolute beasts going head to head. BIIIIIIG event!

[keir193]

why they al riding illmacs dick.. thesauras was consistently better

[blaoDOTcom]

@keir193 even thesaurus admits he got bodied in 3 no need for an OT......cmon

[sirusful]

this was when GT was on top.. everything abt this event was to sick.. great battles... great venue.. great crowd (unlike those url crowds today)... and tbh, lush uno was the best host ever..

[EpicFail978]

I like Illmac, but I think The Saurus is much better

[syco2010]

illmac killed it like he did lastnight !

[blaoDOTcom]

YOUR A NERDY QUEER

[shozakathedevil]

fuckin legends right there

[FreakyBedro]

listen funny guy, it ain't double just because you rhyme outta breathe and sloppy ..

illmac is perfect on every aspect, nice flow, crazy lyrics, funny jokes, he brings personals, he shows respects... above all.. his MUSIC IS FUCKINNNNN AWESOME

I love pete but goddamn illmac brought his A game

[mkurylowski]

illmac is the best, period, he should be much more famous than he is

[lightnin7]

organic is there



[Tyrox1992]

noone rhymes the way illmac do

[DroppinKnowledge69]

ILLMACULATE

IRON SOLOMON

HOLLOW DA DON

EVERYONE ELSE....

[campKILLer]

@DroppinKnowledge69 the hell does that mean?

[dueceonepound]

Why doesn't this have a million views???

[SouIjaBoyxxx]

7:00

[Playboi535]

im sry but thesaurus won...especailly since illmac went hard about the johnny storm battle which thesaurus OBVIOUSLY Won.

[Doctorlg]

Grindtime = Corny and Wack

[IpManWingChun100]

@Doctorlg Lol you serious? Nobody fuckin' with Grindtime.

[Ai2K7]

@IpManWingChun100 kotd > grindtime nowadays

gt was the shit 2 years ago. its wack and slowed down right now. kotd/url are running shit atm

[Mixroulette]

@IpManWingChun100 Yeah, Grindtime can get corny, but no fuckin way is it wack.

[Doctorlg]

@IpManWingChun100 Yep

Grindtime is a Cornball outfit... Bunch of fucking square-ass weirdos trying to act cool. And I'm not even talking about the rappers...LOL

[codecrt321]

I clicked "Right Here" and paused the video...

[4v3r4gEJo3]

@codecrt321 ahahahaha i just did that...

[ilikeguitar925]

shit, i almost wish i hadn't heard of eyedea just so maybe some of these would impress me.

[DribblesIzm]

@ilikeguitar925 if you think eyedea is better at pre written battles than these two your a full blown aids carrier.

[ilikeguitar925]

@DribblesIzm Haha, I didn't say he was! Some of his freestyle battling is at the least on par with this though.

There's definitely some clever shit in this, but there's also some bits that are just embarrassing for being written.

[alvinder1]

Whats the name of the song that plays when Thesaurus is introduced?

[Strikeb4ck]

@alvinder1 im grindin (thesaurus, chase moore, okwerdz)

[rdrgdz4]

i clicked there and it just paused the video lol fail

[krayzie6locc6ni66a]

haha Drect must of payed them a good chunk of change 4 them to battle..haha he wanted sum information out of both of em

[pEr5on4LLy]

Illmaculate is a great performer. Battles and music. End of story.

[KM4Nx]

Uh Oh face jokes again lmao

[piffNkush456]

How this video doesn't have over a million views by now is crazy!

[SGP3213]

Decided to rewatch this after seeing Dizaster vs DNA, and then I remembered why this was the best fuckin battle of all time in the first place. Still the best battle of all time IMO

[SomeWriterGuy]

I hate how Ars and Conceited has five times the views as this. This is the greatest battle I have ever witnessed. Although from what I'm hearing on twitter DNA vs. Dizaster was even better, and if so, Jeeeeesus Christ.

[REELHIPHOP420]

@SomeWriterGuy check it on KOTD good shit , worth watching

[Jq2smooove]

@SomeWriterGuy cuz conceited fuckin MURDERED illmaculate. ppl know illmaculate is ass. i watched this vid for thesarus like everybody else.

[SomeWriterGuy]

@Jq2smooove oh god i'm not gonna get started with someone like you.

[Jq2smooove]

@SomeWriterGuy i wouldn't expect u too, faggot.

[DiCi999]

@Jq2smooove Actually nobody gets started with you because your comments prove your retardation. Illmaculate is one of the best period. He battled Conceited and Hollow the same day, I haven't heard Conceited do that or even go off the top. You can reply calling me a faggot, doesn't matter, you only confirm your idiocy. It also proves you're adopted.

[Jq2smooove]

@DiCi999 i wasnt even talking to u faggot so stop dickriding. anyways illmaculate got destroyed by hollow too dumbass. it dont matter if u battle two niggas on the same day if u get destriyed by both. he a weak ass nerd rapper from the west that wont get no love past the west coast. how he get stomped out twice on the same day with the homefield advantage?? and bitch im adopted but ur the one that got time to be cyber thuggin on youtube on thanksgiving. bitch wheres yo family??

[TheRapResurrection]

@Jq2smooove Fuck you ignorant as piece of shit ! Illmaculate is a LEGEND in the battle scene, and he aint no nerd. No love past the west? BULLSHIT he gets respect worldwide PROOF he has a fanbase here in New Zealand. Hollow win Scribble jam ? NO. Hollow win WRC ? TWICE ?? NO. In conclusion, go fuck your mother ,

[Jq2smooove]

@TheRapResurrection lmao take his dick out yo mouth and come back to reality. he may have been good in the past but as of late he got destroyed by hollow and concieted. u may love him and want to suck his dick and suckle his balls but thats u. i think he sucks and at the end of the day thats my opinion and nothing u say is gonna change that. and in conclusion, get some counseling for your roid rage and lay off the crack then maybe your mom will love u, u fucking dork.

[TheRapResurrection]

@Jq2smooove Lol hollow and con are old as now dipshit, illmac just burnt bender in Canada. Shame your adopted :P Your parents didn't want you bahahaha no wonder you ignant piece of shite.

[Jq2smooove]

@TheRapResurrection lmao its a shame youre a homosexual who cant come out because your parents will love even less than they do now so to feed your gay impulses u have fantasies u were adopted by a gay couple who would celebrate your fagness and encourage u to find illmac and lick his asshole which is obviously what u crave seeing how u keep mentioning me being adopted. oh and illmac blows. end of story.

[TheRapResurrection]

@Jq2smooove Lol ok make whatever absurd assumptions you like. Fact, you are adopted. Shame on your life. Good day douchebag

[Jq2smooove]

@TheRapResurrection i love u too

[Jq2smooove]

@TheRapResurrection and FUCK New Zeland

[joseph10134]

he called me up after crying like i gave a fuck (i didnt) hahahahahahaha

[grapej00se]

What's with the fake ass wigger accent illWACKulate has? You're a fuckin 5'1 white dude from portland, probably the least gangster city in the US.

[TheBawssmajor]

@grapej00se he is half-black dude!

[MalikarVampire]

@grapej00se portland is bad you idiot

[clamantuanguyan]

i hate when lush says 'muh fuckas!' or any ebonic variation. it sounds so forced.

[emceefocus]

peter vs greg.... that sounds too weird

[61n9ner]

what song is the first one, presenting thesaurus

[61n9ner]

who organizes and finances these battles?

[JusBlazeDR]

@61n9ner there is ceos of grind time, madd illz, lush one, drect, there is a lot of different sponsors, advertised in logos and promos before and after the battle

[DroppinKnowledge69]

i said it a long time ago and i stand by it:

4 legends of what we enjoy today:

illmaculate

thesaurus (stop being nerdy and understand he was the god before any of this happened)

iron solomon

thumbs up. or let me know who you got.

hollow da don

[RyanLkirk]

@DroppinKnowledge69 DUMBFOUNDEAD ALL DAY!

[DroppinKnowledge69]

@RyanLkirk i don't disagree. he'd def make my personal top 4 favorites but he doesn't have the battle rap credential like those guys

[Lead2YurHead]

@bigzooka420 No Sucka

[SomeWriterGuy]

@bigzooka420 no sucka the first track off the album

[AudibleRocks]

@bigzooka420,didn't know the title but that song was included in Illmaculate's "Police Brutality"

[gn0ez]

'you do what everyone else does and then try to act like you re-invented the wheel, Like I'll call madness fat, dumbfounded, I'll use race jokes on him...then someone mentions that thing above his neck and he's like oooh oooohooooh face jokes again!!"......fucking DEAD!!!

[gn0ez]

dumb ass who keeps saying "Time" pisses me off...

[babybeAsta877]

they aint got shit on Supa Hot Fire!!!!

[70877]

@babybeAsta877 lmao shit he would kill them off lol

[timeless90gmailcom]

sWiM TeAm and Thesuarus unstopable force for the West.. nuf said ya hurd :P

[InfluencedByMe]

"Look Pete, we met in 2005, 06 'n' 07? That was a mountain to climb; It's been 2 years since then, I put 3 projects out in that time - Do the Math bitch, it's 2009 and you still haven't bin on an album of mine!" lmfaoooooooo! WOOOO

[concealedkiller]

how could you battle your partner fucked up imo

[DroppinKnowledge69]

@concealedkiller this was for the movement. they were friends before, during, and after. people take this battle rap shit too serious. they were significantly the top 2 battle rappers at the time (along with iron killin it on the east) AND THEY DID IT FOR THE MOVEMENT. "in you opinion"? your opinion is uneducated.

[thabboy]

What happened to battling? These dudes really set the bar so high, New cats aint even fucking with them on performance or abilities.

[DocOcMusic]

whats up organik lol.

[Fuby803]

Thesaurus' first rounds are amazing every time. He comes packin heat with it every time. Big ups, one of my favorites.

[AudibleRocks]

"We met in 2005,06 and 07,that was a mountain to climb.

it's been 2 years since then,i put 3 projects out in that time.

do the math bitch it's 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine"

That punchline was SICK.

[unholyfarter]

@thepianoboy2011 no one is talking...their typing...retard.

[babybeAsta877]

TheSaurus reppin swim team????

[emceefocus]

@babybeAsta877 i don't think so. pretty sure he just yelled out a bunch of GTN crews lol

[MrRxBerg]

@MrUniversalJustice greg poe*

[TheOneAndOnlyMrElbo]

TENCHOO/LEGO VS ILLMAC/THESAURUUS

GET IT ON BITCHES FUK DIZASTER N OKWERDZ

[xilixnicexilix]

LOVED IT BOTH WAS FUNNY

[WhoThat808]

Illmac's best battle ever. Everyone knows Thesaurus is better. But mad props to Illmac for going hard when the chips were down.

[noahc2dope]

Honestly, I think Thesaurus won. Just myself.

[Outherefordapaper18]

Best grindtime battle

[mailkoff]

Im watching this again preparing for his Bender battle. Also can't wait for KOTD Grand Prix Finals.

[syped1]

illmac, a fuken monster nigga

[hckey234]

classic battle. if thesaurus had a few more punchlines it woulda easily been closer. Ilmaculate is last of a rare/dying breed: a well-rounded emcee with swagger that can freestyle, freestyle battle, AND make amazing music. He's also adaptable, being one of the best in the world at this modern written format of battling.

[MrsssChuck21]

how old is illmac now?

[hckey234]

@MrsssChuck21 Born on February 4, 1986

[MarkMarotta1992]

@MrsssChuck21 If I'm not mistaken, he was 17 in '04 when he won scribble, so that would make him ~24 now

[maurice2321]

Does anyone know Thesaurus's Song???

[BZero9404]

@maurice2321 I'm Grindin by Chase Moore, TheSaurus, and a couple others

[maurice2321]

Does anyone Thesaurus's Song??

[theonenonlycloud]

Hella drama between these two lol

[ThePrinceOfLeon]

PH's face is priceless hah!

[thepianoboy2011]

peter vs greg

[genge2006]

Cant trust that ill-rat-culate ....he a backstabber!!!

[pogisicj]

every single grindtime president from each divison is there, pretty fckin raw.

[5L3R124]

will someone tell that dipshit in the green hat to take that fuckin grill out his face...

[lukeslonergan]

i cant take illmaculate serious he looks and sounds like a 12 year old lmao

[rikohp23]

illmaculate used to many nursery rhymes...the saurus>illmaculate

[austinkim120]

this battle had the best bars because theyre so close and know so much about each other.

[MrHunglow420]

thesaurus won it hands down but illmac said some crazy stuff

[Dam3LuC]

yeah i agree that there battle didnt live up 2 there hype and that they both could of went a lil harder then what they did but they didnt n hollow was more interested in the selling of his shirts but hes trynna make cake u gotta respect his hustle everybody using muzik 2 sell n put there product out there u kno if u was hollow u gunna make money it was jus part of his grind his hustle

[ThePresident45]

@fearFlashback

I have to disagree with you regarding Iron's performance against E Ness. I thought it was a great performance and i thought Iron won 3-0, bodybagging Ness. He spit some great shit. I agree with you that Illmaculate is one of the top battle MC's without a doubt. Werid that he and Iron never met up for a battle considering how long they have been elite in the battle world. I was looking forward to the Arsonal vs Illmac battle, to bad Grindtime could not get it done.

[pnbbautista]

illmac, thesaurus and dizaster are my favorite battle rappers

[ThePresident45]

@fearFlashback

I think Iron would take out Illmac if they battled. Would like to see a rematch between The Saurus vs Iron Solomon

[Digteren]

So rawr yet so tecnical f'ing love this battle... spect to both!

[VenomousX]

this battle was uploaded on October 21rst,2009...and it hasn't even hit 500K.... yet E-Ness Vs Iron Solomon was uploaded on September 19th,2010 and has already hit 1 million...that's crazy.

[reesnipee]

anybody know the name of illmac's intro song?

[hiphoponeworld]

Best battle ever right next to Hollohan vs Pat Stay imo

[JordanGordonNaish]

Best battle in the history of battle rap!

[TheYoungslate]

Doesn;t it piss you off that when you search "Thesaurus vs Illmaculate" You can find pt.2 and pt. 3. But pt1 isn't even one the first page.

[DJRoadkill18seven]

organik in tha back

[DJRoadkill18seven]

1:32 out of place fat camera bitch LOL

[psdddt]

EXPOS



[arayagerardo]

Thesaurus is the Cat in the hat of rap battles

[fbibreaker14]

what was thesaurus on about when he was talking about grizzle? was that illmacs battle against madness?

[farooqali1136]

@fbibreaker14 nah his battles against conceited and holow da don on the same day. where he lost against conceited and then his battle with hollow was promo but holow merked mac there

[fbibreaker14]

@farooqali1136 oh yeah fair enough. yeah hollow did merc him. i still reckon it would of been a different story if mac battled them on different days.

[ThePresident45]

@fbibreaker14

The Saurus was talking about Illmac's 2 losses at Grizzlemania 1 to Conceited and Hollow Da Dan. Conceited killed Illmac and then Hollow beat him rather easily.

[LimbWreck]

Illmac definitely won round 1.

[user2166]

lush one said these 2 made like 8 million dollars together

is this true or is he overexagerating?

[taipz]

@user2166 its true.

[209twitch]

@user2166 exaggerating lol...they made around $150,000 i think...thats a rough estimate though

[user2166]

@209twitch I thought so, someone replied and said that its true but to be honest i dont know, 8 million does sound like bullshit though, if it were true they'd be set!

[IntaFlex]

@209twitch Saurus said in his battle against DBD that he 'made a rack to lose to Illmac' and my understanding is a rack is a grand.

[Tyrox1992]

their will never be a better battle then this, EVER

[jonthedonable]

no disrespect to illmac but most of his shit is like someone talking rather than rapping, alot of his shit doesnt rhyme either! think he gets more credit than he deserves, i also think thesaurus was better here! at least he had a good flow and good lyrics and 90% rhymed opposed to 60% of illmacs ! thought that was the point in rapping? am i wrong?

[NBskate]

@jonthedonable yes you are

[jonthedonable]

@NBskate lol oooooooooooohhh! haha. i dont think i am! i do listen to what he says! im not saying he is bad, i just think alot of his punchlines dont rhyme! more so in other battles, he battled respek ba who is a scottish rapper and i seen him say shit that didnt make sense, but sounded cool! where as respek made sense and rhymed everytime! again illmac still won! dont think im putting down illmac, he is a legend in the scene! but i think i have a point

[JcLeopard]

@jonthedonable I don't think flow really plays a big part when your having a Battle with no Beat/Instrumental. If they want to judge it on flow to then they should go back to using Instrumentals like that back in the day when Juice was battling.

[jonthedonable]

@JcLeopard then it isnt really a "rap" battle then! rapping is all about rhyming! im not sure either, but i do believe it takes more talent to make everything you say rhyme as well as make sense. i cant diss illmac, hes awesome, but that is something i noticed about him in a few battles.

[kristiandelacruz27]

@jonthedonable you're kinda wrong, illmac has been known as one of the legends of rap battle because of his wordplay, lyrism and facts.. it's true that thesaurus is great at rhyming and illmac looks like he is just talking though, but he doesn't get that much more credit than he deserves as you think.

[jonthedonable]

@kristiandelacruz27 yeah i know about illmac and seen most battles he has ever done and i know how respected he is, but i think just sometimes he wins and he shouldnt, and i think he wins more because of his stature and fans, i dunno, hes awesome, i have got into his new album too, its pretty good man, i just feel that sometimes he says things that sound amazing and doesnt make sense or he will have alot of punchlines that dont rhyme which i think kinda defeats the purpose of a battle " rap"

[geno0621]

illmac is a fucking beast, damn, he needs to battle with solomon,

[R455K455]

ive watched this so much i can mouth the introduction talking about non perishables. lol.

[9000Luke]

this battle is the dopest

[Most1ntrigued]

illmacs last verse was insane!!!! i went into this rooting for thesaurus but i admit that illmac solidly took it

[greenilizer]

illmaculates first thing was kinda stupid

[MrUniversalJustice]

" If you watched Wrc enough?/ you'd see this sucker gettin saved!!/ spit's filler, WEAK as FUCK!!! Then Peter comes to rescue Craig!! " -classic barz

[BIuejay]

@MrUniversalJustice Greg. Not Craig.

[TVChoszpital]

@MrUniversalJustice It's actually Greg - that's the real name of Illmac ;]

[TVChoszpital]

The heaviest bars in this battle:

Saurus - You'll never beat me, I'm way too clever so instead of hating start writing me a "Thank you" letter, because I made you better

Illmac - It's 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine

[ModernizedPirate]

@MrUniversalJustice Greg*

[Jon3syX07]

@MrUniversalJustice wow..... its greg buddy

[L4BBY]

@MrUniversalJustice Greg* not Craig lol

[butteryassanthony]

@MrUniversalJustice Greg** haha Illmaculate's name is Greg not Craig

[VRQwerty]

@MrUniversalJustice it's Greg

[KaveMan410]

@MrUniversalJustice Greg!! Its Peter and Greg (Illmac and Thesaurus=Peter and Greg!)) DAMN!! where the fuck you get Craig from this aint friday lmao

[fbibreaker14]

@KaveMan410 I KNOW! SOME OTHER FAGGOT SAID CRAIG TOO! absolute fucking plebs. got no idea about the battle scene.

[mailkoff]

@KaveMan410

lol you aint got to lie craig, you aint got to lie

[JL3GEND2]

@MrUniversalJustice greg not craig

[fbibreaker14]

@MrUniversalJustice his name is greg not craig 

[adob0streak]

@MrUniversalJustice who the fuck is craig

[mynameispatrickkk]

ILL

[deansgnr]

i swear this is the last time i'll watch this.... 10th right now

[TheJayspid]

@deansgnr haah i said that to myself like 13 view ago :)

[Grizz517]

I think Illmac took both these rounds. The first just barely, but the second one he definitely got.

[Ch1ldsplay]

THE best battle!