orly? I didn't know M3's ran 12's in the 1/4 mile stock.....Oh that's right, they don't. So, so sorry bro, it will not own a turbo tC. Probably one that has no intercooler, no management, no fuel upgrades, and running 6 or less psi, sure. But a turbo tC with a complete kit does not loose to a stock M3.
And? Like an M3 is the only car that can make some power. We have a tC in the crew with 555whp. Check out my latest video on my profile called Import Alliance 2008 if you want to see it.
A 10 sec car is a 10 sec car be it civic, tC, WRX, Supra, ect.. Don't be stupid, when it comes to modding cars it's the guy with the most time and money invested into his ride that wins. I'm sure a 400hp turbo charged bmw can fuck with a 700hp turbo tC. What a dumb comment bro.
You're obviusly the stupid one. Back in the day, it was V8s dominating the drag strip running 10s. Wasnt until the 90s ish that the small motor imports started to dip inot the single digits cause it takes so much more work. So STFU. This is why I dont bother responding to comments on here.
You man. Telling me that my comment about "look at it for what it is" is a dumb comment. Of course a v8 will be faster, its bigger. But when you look at it size wise, the V8s arent all that.
Where the fuck did I say that to you? I'm looking back through the comments, and I don't see anywhere I'm talking to you about your comment. I own a tC bro, you talking to the wrong dude.
"u can turbocharge any bmw not mversion and it will fuck with all the turbo tc or other 4cyl shit"
Hmmm...I'm not blind. And you want to see a 739whp tC, go over to Jotech's website. Also, weight becomes a factor when racing you know that right? 500whp in a Dodge Charger is not the same as 500whp in a Honda Civic hatch.
Supercharger added does not mean it's going to automatically win. And of course the RSX was turboed, but the M3 already comes with more power, so it wasn't UNfair.
yeah there is a video of a turbo rsx beating a stock M3 on youtube; true.
however there are a TON more videos of M3s, including the older e36 M3s, raping RSXs. its all relative; you can make a civic smoke a ferrari enzo with enough money but are you really gonna say a civic is faster than an enzo just because ONE civic is faster than ONE enzo? i hope not; and the same thing applies here
Dude, your an idiot. You say there is one video of an RSX beating an M3 but that doesnt mean shit when there are hundreds of videos of BMWs, not even BMW M series cars, beating RSXs. The M3 is a better car than the RSX, is all im saying
Your an idiot, cause all I'm saying is that when it comes to modifications done to cars, it don't matter where the car originally came from or how it was at the factory. The guy who wins is the guy with the biggest wallet to make the best mods to his car. I don't even like hondas bro, so don't think I'm some RSX fanboy. OF COURSE I would rather have an M3. And my previous reply was AGREEING with you dude. Yes, M3 is better than RSX.
im not an idiot, I was reading through your comments to other people and you seem to think its either easier to turbo a tc or you get more power out of a tc turbo than an M3 or whatever the hell else you were saying. stock for stock M3 will win turbo for turbo M3 will win s/c for s/c M3 will win
You are an idiot if you think every car is equal. tC has bigger turbo = faster than M3 with smaller turbo. M3 with bigger turbo = faster than tC with smaller turbo....get the point? You can't make a general comment like that. If that was true then you wouldn't see cars like oh say a twin turbo 350z loose to a turboed Civic or something like that.
tC would need a HELLA big turbo to beat an M3 even an M with a small turbo. Stock for stock M3 will win and lets say SAME BOOST PRESSURE, M3 will win.
Yet another post that makes no sense. First off SAME BOOST Pressure is the dumbest thing dude. 10 PSI say on a GT42r is not the same as 10 PSI on a GT28rs. So saying same boost pressure is pretty stupid. And what exactly is a HELLA BIG turbo? Cause I've beaten 400whp cars with my tC using a small 16G turbo.
A hella big turbo is exactly what it sounds, and 10psi coming out of any turbo is still 10psi; end of the story. Good job beating cars with your tc. Im proud, really.
And yeah maybe a used turbo kit for a 350Z isnt 3k. Thats cause you arent mechanically able to piece together a turbo kit piece by piece, making it well under 3K. No shit... I never said turbo KITs i said turbo system.
LOL.....I think you need to learn a little more if you think 10 PSI out of a GT28rs is the same as 10 PSI out of a GT42r. Go to Garret's website and take a look at the size difference between the two. To me, a T70 on a Supra is a HELLA BIG turbo. But you won't find that on a tC. Didn't quite understand your last comment though about kit and turbo system. They are the same thing. The more and more I read your comments, the more I'm finding it hard to believe you dropped 20k on your motor
Ahem... 10psi is 10psi, is 19psi. The size of the turbo is irrelevant, if it is making 10psi its making 10psi end of story. tC cant have a big turbo, it will lag. Maybe you are saying a smaller turbo will spool up to 10psi faster, making it better. Which is true. But not what im saying, im saying 10psi is the same amount of pressure (10psi) coming out of any turbo.
And a turbo kit is a turbo system, all bunched together for an easy purchase. Compiling the p
And a turbo kit is a turbo system, all bunched together for an easy purchase. Compiling the parts yourself, the turbo, the intercooler, the piping, instead of in a kit (because it gets marked up to make money) would be under 3K. Putting it together yourself means its not a kit, its still a turbo system just you didnt make 1000 bucks markup to some company. The more I listen to you the more I... well quite frankly, laugh.
I dont have 20K in my motor, you caught me. Its actually 18K, i rounded
Putting it together mean Ebay crap. If you want to keep it at $3k that is. And you can't get away from markup. Buying goods period have markup on it. And I doubt you have 18k either.
Just because a car comes with X amount of power from the factory means it will beat the other car stock vs stock. But when you start adding mods to cars, it's the guy who has the biggest wallet that wins, or the guy that put together the best package. Mods for different cars, cost different amounts. $3k spent on a tC will get you boosted. $3k on my 350z and you will be lucky to get a decent I/H/E setup.
Yes true biggest wallet wins I never disagreed with that. But 3k could get you turbo on a Z too it just may not be the best kit or most power. 3k for freeing up the breathing and exhaust is ridiculous; and you could also EASILY spend 3k on a I/H/E setup for a tC as well. Its all relative.
BHAHAHA....not even a USED turbo kit for a 350z cost $3k. Secondly, do you know how a Twin Turbo kit on a Z is installed? The turbos sit under the motor. Which means the motor has to be pulled out in order to install the turbo kit. Pulling the motor (that's if you have some shop do it), is going to cost you a crap load to install on top of the price of the kit itself. I own a 350z as well, trust me, I've looked into it.
and NO you would not EASILY spend 3k on an I/H/E setup on a tC....bhahaha! Exhaust for my Z cost $1400. Full Exhaust for my tC cost $600. Z is 6 cly, so it has Headers and not a header like a 4cly. Intakes cost about the same. Man, you should like do research on cars if you want to talk about them. Your making way off statements.
TRD exhaust and intake alone are almost 2K, im sure you could find expensive headers for another thousand. Its all relative, you need to consider that. a 4cyl and 6cyl still both have headers because plural headers refers to the entire unit not neccesarily 2 of them.
Maybe you should do some research on cars? I know what im talking about, your the one saying 10psi will differ turbo to turbo. 10psi is a measurement. Thats like saying the number 1 is worth different values in different contexts
TRD exhaust + intake = $2k...who the hell told you that? I hope your friend with the tC didn't tell you that. Quick google search, TRD exhaust $400 brand new. Injen CAI = $250. 400+250=$650, Not $2k. And I didn't say 10 PSI was different from 10 PSI. You are not listening. 10 PSI on a GT28rs will be maybe 280-300whp for a tC. 10 PSI on a GT35R or bigger is going to be more like 350whp. That's what I'm talking about dude.
10psi coming out of a GT28rs, a GT35R, or a GT30, or any turbo, is STILL 10 POUNDS OF PRESSURE PER SQUARE INCH. If you ran 10psi boost through those turbos, your engine will STILL be getting 10psi. Therefore, one turbo at 10psi wont make more than another at 10psi.
It may spool up quicker but 10psi is 10psi for god sakes. Unless you are talking different efficencies which gets sort of mucked up as a bigger turbo has less backpressure but a smaller one has less heat soak. Still 10psi is 10psi..
Thanks. Thats exactlty what I said. Are you braindead? Or mentally retarded? Perhaps autistic? Or just an idiot, most likely, who doesnt read comments thoroughly and posts saying someone is dumb when in fact you arent saying anything different.
And as it ends up, the amount of efficent air flow is different from turbo to turbo so, I was wrong, and no, 10 psi is NOT always gonna be the same turbo from turbo. Look it up, asshat.
Lets see who else....Chris Rado, look up his name. Their World Racing time attack tC has put down 7xxwhp, my boy in our car club's tC put down 542whp, my tC is 300+whp (still stock motor for now). Umm...Horizon Motorsports 9sec tC makes 7xxwhp. And there are a crap load of 300-400whp tC's running around. We have 8 boosted tC's in my club, all accept one in the 300whp range.
Barely...LOL...dude the stock motor take upwards of 350-400whp. Barely is not even close. 300whp is common not rare. If it's anything less than that, then its 250whp. What is rare is a tC with less than 250whp if it's turboed that is.
M3 engine can make 400-450hp on stock block and stock componets running around 8psi.
TC engine is forged w/ forged internals though, and could probably get 350hp out of the stock block; but it is still a 4cyl and I think asking 400hp stock is asking too much
And damn yes 4psi isnt really that great depending on the engine; on a little 4 banger 4psi wont help you too much but shove that power through a V12 and we can talk
What engine is forged w/ forged internals? A tC engine is not. But it will get 400whp out of the stock block. However, I wouldn't go over 350whp before building it. So what if it's a 4cyl, that just means it can do the same job with less components.
4 PSI on a tC is about 200whp (depending on the turbo).
tC engine is forged with forged internals, look it up, they came stock that way so if scion wanted to create a STi/Evo competitor it would be achievable on the stock block. a 4cyl will need the same amount of componets to create power as an I6; and depending on the parts some V8s as well. just headers will be 6cyl not 4cyl etc
tC engine, as in Scion tC engine? BHAHAHAA! Dude, I own a tC. I have for the past 5 years, I think I know what the car has and doesn't have. And it DOSEN'T have forged internals. If you want I can take a pic of a broken tC rod that I have sitting in my trunk. As well as some shattered Piston if you really think it's forged. It's not forged dude. And I have no idea what your talking about on the last part of your post. You talking about N/A'ed or boosted?
And I could be wrong about the tC having forged internals, I have a friend with a tC who keeps telling me that shit. If you have a pic of a fucked up tC engine I actually would like to see it, to show him, cause I didnt think they were earlier. Thanks for correcting me on that one.
And yeah I was saying any longitudinal engine will need the same # of parts for the same setups; but if you are talking V engines, then you WILL need more parts to turbo it (2 headers opposed to1)
Could be? I assure you bro, it's not forged. Your friend don't know what he is talking about. Yeah I will do better than a pic, I will put it on video like all the rest I have in my gallery. The motor is mine. I have been planning on getting a spare/fresher motor for my new turbo kit I'm going to be running. So, I didn't mind popping the current one. I have the new motor sitting in the garage waiting to be dropped in. Will be working on it this week.
Anywhoo please do post a vid of a destroyed tC engine. I dont have anything against tCs, they are nice cars with decent 4 bangers, and after doing research discovered they have forged connecting rods after '05 due to problems with them being too weak. That is all that is forged, but my friend doesnt understand that.
wow you beet a 180 whp bmw lol and from having a turboed car if your only running 4 lbs you have boost all the time dont say you made full boost and left him 4 psi on your motor is only like 40 whp or so. please dont act like your car is fast till you can run 11s or faster and if i remember the worlds fastest street scion runs like 14s or something slow like that!
heh, stock K20z3 SI (06-08) beats out the BMW 325, 328 and 330 pretty easily. BMW is heavy, The only thing BMW has over the SI is the AWD version of the cars.
heck yeah looks like he stoped or something. I kill tc with my 1986 volvo 740 turbo (modified 15 psi boost no interior straight pipe) and am only 16 man!
u just dont know m3, its not a stock ordinary car man, u should see it run on high speeds, and plus u just go on ebay, buy supercharger, install it, here u go supergharged m3 will own ANY TURBO TC
I don't know m3? Its not a stock ordinary car? If it's stock, it's stock. Yeah, its a better stock car than other stock cars. But I'm not stock. A stock M3 does not run 12's in the 1/4 mile. 1/4 mile is just that...a 1/4 mile. Supercharging it = NOT stock anymore. You said stock, don't try and change it now. And NO it won't own ANY TURBO tC. You should get out more. Look up Chris Rado on youtube and also google it. Time Attack tC with 600+whp and recently 700+whp.
put a turbo on the other car and then see who wins...I still rather be driving my E36. there is just something special with BMW, alot of heritage I guess...
4psi? weak!
Vaginiti5 3 years ago
i would still pick the e36 turbo it and still would have wasted less money than buyin a tc.
nyc35av 3 years ago
any tc is a chicks car. Buy a real car homos!
mexrambo 3 years ago
hmm idk bout that, but them bmw's is basicly for old farts that know nuthing about imports!!!
tonedog4000 3 years ago
I will smoke any tC you bring at me. E36 ///M3 BMW POWER
MacedonianHitman 3 years ago
What's done to your BMW?
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
a stock m3 will own turbo tc
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
orly? I didn't know M3's ran 12's in the 1/4 mile stock.....Oh that's right, they don't. So, so sorry bro, it will not own a turbo tC. Probably one that has no intercooler, no management, no fuel upgrades, and running 6 or less psi, sure. But a turbo tC with a complete kit does not loose to a stock M3.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
sorry bro any of yo tc will own m3 supercharged. sorry man my friends m3 supergarged runs vipers. kills them, and going to killl other ricer crap
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
And? Like an M3 is the only car that can make some power. We have a tC in the crew with 555whp. Check out my latest video on my profile called Import Alliance 2008 if you want to see it.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
u can turbocharge any bmw not mversion and it will fuck with all the turbo tc or other 4cyl shit
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
I agree. But you have to look at what it is. 4 cyl vs 6/8 cyl. Not bad for the size.
BlindDrifter 3 years ago
A 10 sec car is a 10 sec car be it civic, tC, WRX, Supra, ect.. Don't be stupid, when it comes to modding cars it's the guy with the most time and money invested into his ride that wins. I'm sure a 400hp turbo charged bmw can fuck with a 700hp turbo tC. What a dumb comment bro.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
You're obviusly the stupid one. Back in the day, it was V8s dominating the drag strip running 10s. Wasnt until the 90s ish that the small motor imports started to dip inot the single digits cause it takes so much more work. So STFU. This is why I dont bother responding to comments on here.
BlindDrifter 3 years ago
Who are you talking to?
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
You man. Telling me that my comment about "look at it for what it is" is a dumb comment. Of course a v8 will be faster, its bigger. But when you look at it size wise, the V8s arent all that.
BlindDrifter 3 years ago
Where the fuck did I say that to you? I'm looking back through the comments, and I don't see anywhere I'm talking to you about your comment. I own a tC bro, you talking to the wrong dude.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
I was talking to the guy who is retarded enough to think that a turbo BMW will take out ALLLLLLLLL turbo tC's. That would be
cherniybumer16 not you.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
i never said all turbo tc, but turbo m3 will fuck with ANY TC. find me a 700hp tc and ill get 500hp m3
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
Dude, read your own comment.
"u can turbocharge any bmw not mversion and it will fuck with all the turbo tc or other 4cyl shit"
Hmmm...I'm not blind. And you want to see a 739whp tC, go over to Jotech's website. Also, weight becomes a factor when racing you know that right? 500whp in a Dodge Charger is not the same as 500whp in a Honda Civic hatch.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
i know but m3 is not too heavy. it a lil heavy but not too much
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
How heavy is it? Going to depend on the year obviously.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
it is about 3100 pound, somewhere aound that
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
It's about 2 to 300lbs heavier. Great car, but don't think that it's unbeatable. There is a vid of a turbo RSX beating an M3 somewhere on youtube.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
yeah but it waz a street race i seen it it waz blue rsx. plus it was turbo. and the m3 is stock. imagine if u supercharge that thing
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
Supercharger added does not mean it's going to automatically win. And of course the RSX was turboed, but the M3 already comes with more power, so it wasn't UNfair.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
M3s come with 240hp a s/c RSX will have more power, hands down
blackXSpr 3 years ago
yea theres on were i drive around our k24 turbo civic bearly beats that
LegalE30 3 years ago
bearily beats e46 m3? thats nice, is the m3 stock?
just asking
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
yeah there is a video of a turbo rsx beating a stock M3 on youtube; true.
however there are a TON more videos of M3s, including the older e36 M3s, raping RSXs. its all relative; you can make a civic smoke a ferrari enzo with enough money but are you really gonna say a civic is faster than an enzo just because ONE civic is faster than ONE enzo? i hope not; and the same thing applies here
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Well that's rather obvious.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
Dude, your an idiot. You say there is one video of an RSX beating an M3 but that doesnt mean shit when there are hundreds of videos of BMWs, not even BMW M series cars, beating RSXs. The M3 is a better car than the RSX, is all im saying
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Your an idiot, cause all I'm saying is that when it comes to modifications done to cars, it don't matter where the car originally came from or how it was at the factory. The guy who wins is the guy with the biggest wallet to make the best mods to his car. I don't even like hondas bro, so don't think I'm some RSX fanboy. OF COURSE I would rather have an M3. And my previous reply was AGREEING with you dude. Yes, M3 is better than RSX.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
im not an idiot, I was reading through your comments to other people and you seem to think its either easier to turbo a tc or you get more power out of a tc turbo than an M3 or whatever the hell else you were saying. stock for stock M3 will win turbo for turbo M3 will win s/c for s/c M3 will win
blackXSpr 3 years ago
You are an idiot if you think every car is equal. tC has bigger turbo = faster than M3 with smaller turbo. M3 with bigger turbo = faster than tC with smaller turbo....get the point? You can't make a general comment like that. If that was true then you wouldn't see cars like oh say a twin turbo 350z loose to a turboed Civic or something like that.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
tC would need a HELLA big turbo to beat an M3 even an M with a small turbo. Stock for stock M3 will win and lets say SAME BOOST PRESSURE, M3 will win.
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Yet another post that makes no sense. First off SAME BOOST Pressure is the dumbest thing dude. 10 PSI say on a GT42r is not the same as 10 PSI on a GT28rs. So saying same boost pressure is pretty stupid. And what exactly is a HELLA BIG turbo? Cause I've beaten 400whp cars with my tC using a small 16G turbo.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
A hella big turbo is exactly what it sounds, and 10psi coming out of any turbo is still 10psi; end of the story. Good job beating cars with your tc. Im proud, really.
And yeah maybe a used turbo kit for a 350Z isnt 3k. Thats cause you arent mechanically able to piece together a turbo kit piece by piece, making it well under 3K. No shit... I never said turbo KITs i said turbo system.
blackXSpr 3 years ago
LOL.....I think you need to learn a little more if you think 10 PSI out of a GT28rs is the same as 10 PSI out of a GT42r. Go to Garret's website and take a look at the size difference between the two. To me, a T70 on a Supra is a HELLA BIG turbo. But you won't find that on a tC. Didn't quite understand your last comment though about kit and turbo system. They are the same thing. The more and more I read your comments, the more I'm finding it hard to believe you dropped 20k on your motor
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
Ahem... 10psi is 10psi, is 19psi. The size of the turbo is irrelevant, if it is making 10psi its making 10psi end of story. tC cant have a big turbo, it will lag. Maybe you are saying a smaller turbo will spool up to 10psi faster, making it better. Which is true. But not what im saying, im saying 10psi is the same amount of pressure (10psi) coming out of any turbo.
And a turbo kit is a turbo system, all bunched together for an easy purchase. Compiling the p
blackXSpr 3 years ago
And a turbo kit is a turbo system, all bunched together for an easy purchase. Compiling the parts yourself, the turbo, the intercooler, the piping, instead of in a kit (because it gets marked up to make money) would be under 3K. Putting it together yourself means its not a kit, its still a turbo system just you didnt make 1000 bucks markup to some company. The more I listen to you the more I... well quite frankly, laugh.
I dont have 20K in my motor, you caught me. Its actually 18K, i rounded
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Putting it together mean Ebay crap. If you want to keep it at $3k that is. And you can't get away from markup. Buying goods period have markup on it. And I doubt you have 18k either.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
I'm not talking about the actual Pressure itself. I am talking about the amount of power it's going to make.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
Just because a car comes with X amount of power from the factory means it will beat the other car stock vs stock. But when you start adding mods to cars, it's the guy who has the biggest wallet that wins, or the guy that put together the best package. Mods for different cars, cost different amounts. $3k spent on a tC will get you boosted. $3k on my 350z and you will be lucky to get a decent I/H/E setup.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
Yes true biggest wallet wins I never disagreed with that. But 3k could get you turbo on a Z too it just may not be the best kit or most power. 3k for freeing up the breathing and exhaust is ridiculous; and you could also EASILY spend 3k on a I/H/E setup for a tC as well. Its all relative.
blackXSpr 3 years ago
BHAHAHA....not even a USED turbo kit for a 350z cost $3k. Secondly, do you know how a Twin Turbo kit on a Z is installed? The turbos sit under the motor. Which means the motor has to be pulled out in order to install the turbo kit. Pulling the motor (that's if you have some shop do it), is going to cost you a crap load to install on top of the price of the kit itself. I own a 350z as well, trust me, I've looked into it.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
and NO you would not EASILY spend 3k on an I/H/E setup on a tC....bhahaha! Exhaust for my Z cost $1400. Full Exhaust for my tC cost $600. Z is 6 cly, so it has Headers and not a header like a 4cly. Intakes cost about the same. Man, you should like do research on cars if you want to talk about them. Your making way off statements.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
TRD exhaust and intake alone are almost 2K, im sure you could find expensive headers for another thousand. Its all relative, you need to consider that. a 4cyl and 6cyl still both have headers because plural headers refers to the entire unit not neccesarily 2 of them.
Maybe you should do some research on cars? I know what im talking about, your the one saying 10psi will differ turbo to turbo. 10psi is a measurement. Thats like saying the number 1 is worth different values in different contexts
blackXSpr 3 years ago
TRD exhaust + intake = $2k...who the hell told you that? I hope your friend with the tC didn't tell you that. Quick google search, TRD exhaust $400 brand new. Injen CAI = $250. 400+250=$650, Not $2k. And I didn't say 10 PSI was different from 10 PSI. You are not listening. 10 PSI on a GT28rs will be maybe 280-300whp for a tC. 10 PSI on a GT35R or bigger is going to be more like 350whp. That's what I'm talking about dude.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
10psi coming out of a GT28rs, a GT35R, or a GT30, or any turbo, is STILL 10 POUNDS OF PRESSURE PER SQUARE INCH. If you ran 10psi boost through those turbos, your engine will STILL be getting 10psi. Therefore, one turbo at 10psi wont make more than another at 10psi.
It may spool up quicker but 10psi is 10psi for god sakes. Unless you are talking different efficencies which gets sort of mucked up as a bigger turbo has less backpressure but a smaller one has less heat soak. Still 10psi is 10psi..
blackXSpr 3 years ago
wow you are dumb 10 psi coming out of any turbo is the same. bigger turbos run more psi so they produce more power.
denny177 2 years ago
Thanks. Thats exactlty what I said. Are you braindead? Or mentally retarded? Perhaps autistic? Or just an idiot, most likely, who doesnt read comments thoroughly and posts saying someone is dumb when in fact you arent saying anything different.
And as it ends up, the amount of efficent air flow is different from turbo to turbo so, I was wrong, and no, 10 psi is NOT always gonna be the same turbo from turbo. Look it up, asshat.
blackXSpr 2 years ago
Its not even an M3 in this video, the title clearly says 325...
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Lets see who else....Chris Rado, look up his name. Their World Racing time attack tC has put down 7xxwhp, my boy in our car club's tC put down 542whp, my tC is 300+whp (still stock motor for now). Umm...Horizon Motorsports 9sec tC makes 7xxwhp. And there are a crap load of 300-400whp tC's running around. We have 8 boosted tC's in my club, all accept one in the 300whp range.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
but they barely running arounf with 300hp tc. rare.
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
Barely...LOL...dude the stock motor take upwards of 350-400whp. Barely is not even close. 300whp is common not rare. If it's anything less than that, then its 250whp. What is rare is a tC with less than 250whp if it's turboed that is.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
oooo 350 thats awesome...... o no wait i got my words confused...... i ment weak
widowedeight 3 years ago
More than enough to piss on your shit.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
M3 engine can make 400-450hp on stock block and stock componets running around 8psi.
TC engine is forged w/ forged internals though, and could probably get 350hp out of the stock block; but it is still a 4cyl and I think asking 400hp stock is asking too much
And damn yes 4psi isnt really that great depending on the engine; on a little 4 banger 4psi wont help you too much but shove that power through a V12 and we can talk
blackXSpr 3 years ago
What engine is forged w/ forged internals? A tC engine is not. But it will get 400whp out of the stock block. However, I wouldn't go over 350whp before building it. So what if it's a 4cyl, that just means it can do the same job with less components.
4 PSI on a tC is about 200whp (depending on the turbo).
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
tC engine is forged with forged internals, look it up, they came stock that way so if scion wanted to create a STi/Evo competitor it would be achievable on the stock block. a 4cyl will need the same amount of componets to create power as an I6; and depending on the parts some V8s as well. just headers will be 6cyl not 4cyl etc
blackXSpr 3 years ago
tC engine, as in Scion tC engine? BHAHAHAA! Dude, I own a tC. I have for the past 5 years, I think I know what the car has and doesn't have. And it DOSEN'T have forged internals. If you want I can take a pic of a broken tC rod that I have sitting in my trunk. As well as some shattered Piston if you really think it's forged. It's not forged dude. And I have no idea what your talking about on the last part of your post. You talking about N/A'ed or boosted?
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
And I could be wrong about the tC having forged internals, I have a friend with a tC who keeps telling me that shit. If you have a pic of a fucked up tC engine I actually would like to see it, to show him, cause I didnt think they were earlier. Thanks for correcting me on that one.
And yeah I was saying any longitudinal engine will need the same # of parts for the same setups; but if you are talking V engines, then you WILL need more parts to turbo it (2 headers opposed to1)
blackXSpr 3 years ago
Could be? I assure you bro, it's not forged. Your friend don't know what he is talking about. Yeah I will do better than a pic, I will put it on video like all the rest I have in my gallery. The motor is mine. I have been planning on getting a spare/fresher motor for my new turbo kit I'm going to be running. So, I didn't mind popping the current one. I have the new motor sitting in the garage waiting to be dropped in. Will be working on it this week.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
Anywhoo please do post a vid of a destroyed tC engine. I dont have anything against tCs, they are nice cars with decent 4 bangers, and after doing research discovered they have forged connecting rods after '05 due to problems with them being too weak. That is all that is forged, but my friend doesnt understand that.
blackXSpr 3 years ago
My tC is a 2006. The rods are not forged.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
what year did they come with forged rods?
abeerbeer 2 years ago
None of them, because tC's do not come with forged rods.
rhythmnsmoke 2 years ago
no.... no it is not
widowedeight 3 years ago
boost is measured in psi for a reason. so that ppl like you dont get confused. turbo = turbo?? hmm...
viper2788 3 years ago
wow you beet a 180 whp bmw lol and from having a turboed car if your only running 4 lbs you have boost all the time dont say you made full boost and left him 4 psi on your motor is only like 40 whp or so. please dont act like your car is fast till you can run 11s or faster and if i remember the worlds fastest street scion runs like 14s or something slow like that!
DriftTuned 4 years ago
um actually some one is hitting 11s and drives it to work so think before you speak
fastbug2276 4 years ago
and thats why i said if i remember right dumb ass so think before you speak
DriftTuned 4 years ago
yeah, you definitely didn't remember right then....lol.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
if you notice people bmw has to race turbos cus standard cars are no competition..i reckon turbo the bmw INVINCIBLE
dave23486 4 years ago
heh, stock K20z3 SI (06-08) beats out the BMW 325, 328 and 330 pretty easily. BMW is heavy, The only thing BMW has over the SI is the AWD version of the cars.
icewildabeast 3 years ago
who cares race a real car like m3
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
heck yeah looks like he stoped or something. I kill tc with my 1986 volvo 740 turbo (modified 15 psi boost no interior straight pipe) and am only 16 man!
cherniybumer16 4 years ago
What do you run at the track? And are you talking about beating turbo tC's, or just a tC?
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
low 14's
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
You are going to have to do better than that if you want to beat a turbo tC.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
u just dont know m3, its not a stock ordinary car man, u should see it run on high speeds, and plus u just go on ebay, buy supercharger, install it, here u go supergharged m3 will own ANY TURBO TC
cherniybumer16 3 years ago
I don't know m3? Its not a stock ordinary car? If it's stock, it's stock. Yeah, its a better stock car than other stock cars. But I'm not stock. A stock M3 does not run 12's in the 1/4 mile. 1/4 mile is just that...a 1/4 mile. Supercharging it = NOT stock anymore. You said stock, don't try and change it now. And NO it won't own ANY TURBO tC. You should get out more. Look up Chris Rado on youtube and also google it. Time Attack tC with 600+whp and recently 700+whp.
rhythmnsmoke 3 years ago
put a turbo on the other car and then see who wins...I still rather be driving my E36. there is just something special with BMW, alot of heritage I guess...
bazinep 4 years ago
why dont you bring it to a dragstrip and see what it runs for times...and get some real competition not a 325 haha
tbsleeper 4 years ago
cause it was even worse. He doesnt know how to launch
BlindDrifter 4 years ago
Why not race him from a dig and post that shit up?
f3dy 4 years ago
check out my favorite videos theres one with a sti vs tc(me) vs stage 3 srt-4.
colocho19 4 years ago
smoked!!!
colocho19 4 years ago
Ya. I was in third the whole time. I didnt even shift.
BlindDrifter 4 years ago
why are you only runing 4PSI?
colocho19 4 years ago
Only have a 4 pound spring in the wastegate. Getting retuned in a couple weeks on 10.
BlindDrifter 4 years ago
nice make shure u get a boost control. and then next time gor for bigger bait like evos, srt, sti, mustangs ect...
colocho19 4 years ago
What turbo are you running again, I can't remember if you told me before. He lost bad, but it looked like he might have missed a gear or something.
rhythmnsmoke 4 years ago
He didnt miss. I was just in fool boost in 3rd gear and kept going. Im running a t3/t4 60 trim.
BlindDrifter 4 years ago