Laibach - Drzava

[Longtermsolutionband]

ALL HAIL THE NSK

[TheSputan]

Laibach is not nazi, find it funny how people assume such though, NSK nation guidlines state anyone of any race or religion can be a member of NSK, which is laibacks movement lol

[honchophil]

Endut! Hoch hech!

[kojinmalia]

cunt in the garden

[Mrsvragica666]

Laibach refers to European autocratic and totalitarianistic regimes established in the past 100 years. Whoever wasn't borned and hadn't lived in one of them, is not capable of comprehending Laibach song thematics.

[dctim]

z0r.de sent me

[merzhin]

Art of Noise in Vril...

[TheRadicalOneNG]

Sounds like the final boss theme to Donkey Kong Country 2

[ancientears1]

@TheRadicalOneNG I just watched this video & got really confused so I wanted to see what you peopled had to say. That was the funniest thing i heard all month!

[boethiah12]

@Wkurwiar i understood what you meant. i might not have phrased what i meant well. what i meant is that i dont like or agree with the views of nazis but i think its cool that laibach doesn't care what their listeners views are.

[boethiah12]

@Wkurwiar by that i mean not caring about race or political views.

[boethiah12]

@Wkurwiar im not a fan of nazis or skin heads but i have to say, that outlook is pretty fuckin cool.

[BALKANCHERO]

Geez, what the hell is this and who listen to this? What a terrible music.

[seth3po]

@BALKANCHERO let me guess!? Rhiana is a better choice! this my friend is pure ART!!!!!

[BALKANCHERO]

@seth3po May I have some of that, whatever you're smoking?

[PinkEcho]

@BALKANCHERO This music was made by intellectuals and was made for people who can understand it...if you cant understand this, maybe your brains isn't powerful enough.

[BALKANCHERO]

@PinkEcho I understand the words, but music and those sounds are just not going into my ears and it gave headache. And, don't underestimate power of my brain as I did not estimate the power of bunch of lunatics here who listen to this crap!

[MrGerolf]

@BALKANCHERO If you don't like it, why are you commenting on the video?

[PinkEcho]

@BALKANCHERO trust me, you just don't get it and there is nothing bad about that. i don't understand many arts, but i don't say that they are crap. this music was created by very good and talented musicians and they really know what are they doing. and this video is not just about listening music. there are many things behind which you must understand i order to enjoy this piece of art. i enjoy it, and i know exactly why.

[mundanem]

und außerdem: Laibach ist KOLLEKTIV i.e. austauschbar

wie man in kommunistischer Erziehung gelernt hat:

JEDERMANN ist AUSTAUSCHBAR!!!

CARITOS

[mundanem]

Cari Amici, liebe FREUNDE!

FREUNDSCHAFT -

LAIBACH war/ist/bleibt >>> ROT BIS in den TOD!!!

---...---,,,

[mundanem]

Cari Amici, liebe FREUNDE!

FREUNDSCHAFT -

LAIBACH war/ist/bleibt >>> ROT BIS in den TOD!!!

[gerkov89]

sonido peculiar :)

[1TS3]

Yes. That's the joke.

[1TS3]

"We are fascists as much as Hitler was a painter"

:D

[4tehlulz9000]

@1TS3

he was actually a painter.

[MsSOADist]

@4tehlulz9000 i like to draw, and actualy not bad at it. but that doesnt make me a painter))

[RojoDiablo1]

@MsSOADist but hitler realy WAS a painter....

[lilithvf1998]

@RojoDiablo1 Yes, but a really bad painter.

[RojoDiablo1]

@lilithvf1998 he wasn't that bad...actualy he was quite good

[lilithvf1998]

@RojoDiablo1 ...Why do I have a feeling Laibach has a better sense of humor than you? *shakes her head*

[SuperiorANTIZOG]

@1TS3 -- Adolf Hitler was a painter ....

[KonigDerLufte]

@SuperiorANTIZOG WOW you impressed me

[noiseklinik]

@1TS3 hitler tried to be a painter and failed :)

[feyko23]

@noiseklinik Do you know most of famous Disney characters drawn by Hitler ;) He was a good painter.

[noiseklinik]

@feyko23 sounds funny

[ShovelHorse]

@1TS3 Hitler was a good painter but he could not get a job because of Jews

[oknarbtal]

@ShovelHorse

Hitler was a mediocre painter and I'm sure he wasn't admitted to the Academy because he lacked skill. Although, those professors from the academy caused the war, unwillingly. lol

[purpleravenstar]

@oknarbtal I wonder what would the world look like if Hitler got in that school. He'd probably became another Bohemian painter :-)

[mfilip62]

@1TS3 He was a quite good painter actually! :-D

[lepape74374374374]

@1TS3

Hitler WAS a painter.

[Doomsday1995]

@lepape74374374374 But was it hitler's painting skills what made him famous and influential, or what he ended up to be?

[DrozdIV]

Hitler's paintings were either generic landscapes or poorly proportioned people.

[derBreunig]

@lepape74374374374 One could also say he tryed to be :) - this is interesting if you look at that great Laibach citation again :)

[Spreewaldtopf]

@1TS3

whoms answer whould be "yes", I suppose.

[Rayimix3000]

@1TS3 Hitler was a quite OK painter... just look at his watercolour paintings...

[Kimse84]

It is brilliant that they make people think so easily that they are Nazi's while in fact they tell these people that you do not even know your own ideology. Forget then!

[metramil]

los mas pillaos!

[metramil]

me encantan sus estetica!

[dudeup1]

this is like the father of techno

[artintelligence73]

I saw Laibach perform in Los Angeles. They were superb.

[gammarod]

What are the orchestral samples used?

[rpaxon]

@RubenvonZwack They were actively using 'fascist' imagery and theatrics as part of the entire point of the group (that is, as a criticism of oppressive states). So, it is sort of to the point that someone may look at this and think of Nazis or any other oppressive political machine. Also, being 'left-wing' isn't really at issue here... Stalinists were quite left wing and they fit the bill here as well as the Nazis and Stalinists do.

[1110111011101]

Lolirun.swf

[wonchop111]

@1110111011101 I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO CAME HERE AFTER SEEING THIS FLASH. God it took me months to finally find this song.

[7375U0]

most of Laibach's video clips are cheap or kitsch (omg the Final Contdown), but this one is awesome. Excellent aesthetic, directoring and atmosphere. Actoring is nice too.

and the music <3 !!

[SlugaBoziji]

@7375U0

I, personally, am very glad that you have got the chance to express your oppinion.

Cheers!

[elleonchino]

ef_loli_run

[Japert07]

Where I can download this version in mp3?

[7375U0]

@Japert07 google -> laibach torrent ;)

[supuhfly]

The concentration of that drummer is badass

[KingDracoon]

@supuhfly Totally man.

[DesertSun0]

I propose the "Rammstein-Laibach Law" Which states that any dark or heavy sounding group with a military aesthetic will always be assumed as Nazis or Neo-Nazis.

[sachsen100]

hvala!

[PierceMyTongue]

This is very very good.

Go Laibach!

[memoriesofhpl]

Not their best

[Japert07]

Če sem lahko prenesete to različico? Ker sem downloaded tisti, ki ni to ...

[destrvctio]

I like this socialist realism and the Nazikunst

[MrGerolf]

why is this one so different from the cd version? i like this version! but there is one i have that is best from there euro tour in the 80's

[sfeberle]

Low budget, well directed. Love it

[DarySLO]

very strange music, but I freakin like it!

[mortitia1986]

odličan bend... da bar mi iammo tako nešto.

pozz iz zagreba

[shantiphant]

its pure bauhaus

[supertara11]

PURE ART DADA in continuation

[SimplyHotter]

GENIOUS! Video is art. Music is pure ART. Always one of the best industrial bands....ever

[dionnizz]

a i jesu najbolje ove stare stvari od njih,koje ocrtaju sliku države koja je bila balans i guzila se između istoka i zapada i pokušvala izvuć najbolje od obe strane...al jebi ga ako bi ispa iz okvira zadrtog komunističkog stava i bija nešto drugčiji posta bi državni neprijatelj i udba bi te sjebala....

[skeltawar]

RUN LOLI RUN!

[010011000111010]

EPIC!

[sargathan]

A Master piece!!!!!!!!!!

[dionnizz]

koja močna stvar u ono doba...dobra,pravi art...jedan od najboljih ex yu bendova... u biti laibah je bend van konkurencije u ondašnjoj yugi

[SimonaKnavs]

@dionnizz

u biti laibach je intrigantan još uvjek, majku, 20 in preko godina, ali još uvjek ... nemam riječi

svaka vam čast momci, majku

[yaskobrcko]

LOVE THEM SINCE EARLY DAYS!

[mieszkomieszko]

be the machine

[haymosachs]

@3:36 - @3:39

[MCKRUSH]

Totally groovy track and video. Gotta love Ljubljana's finest.

[vonShpitzberg]

Trbovlje's finest!!!

[electronic4child]

how old is this song?

[lindemann]

1985

[Buhahahaha]

So is it Drzava, or Cari Amici ??

[gorrd17]

druga najbolja pjesma

the second best  song

[jovanferencic]

@gorrd17

A koja ti je prva:D???

[gorrd17]

Geburt Einer Nation

[daRIG1970]

why are the singing the lyrics to "cari amici" at the beginning?

[vova93]

3:47 Circle Pit

[eXecutivedirectress]

Ne mogu da prekinem da slusam... predobro.

[gamsd]

english translate: The State The state is taking care of the protection, cultivation and exploitation of the forests. The state is taking care of the physical education of the nation, especially of the youth, with the aim of improving the nation's health and national, working and defensive capability. Its treatment is becoming more and more indulgent, all freedom is tolerated. Our authority is that of the people.

[thosepeoples]

beautiful

[dramska4years]

Wow, that's something you don't see every day...

intense....but awesome!

[MessUrnebes]

3:00 gdje si tito da vidis sta se radi sada po onakvoj drzavi.. sramota sto dozvolismo da nas zavade.. kakva nacija, kultura, umjetnost, ideje i duh.. sramota sta napravismo

[88DamaskinoS88]

jebi se i ti i tito, uzivaj u umjetnosti...

[amir071]

Nismo mi, Srbi su..

[MessUrnebes]

ako nisi vidio moj komentar je u ime svih nas iz ex-yu.. onako u pozitivnom tonu bez ikakvog vida provokacije, bas naprotiv

kako ste samo bezobrazni, sta hoces ti uopste tim svojim hejterskim kometarima da postignes..?

i za tvoju informaciju ja sam srbin i ako ce te usreciti, mi smo najgori narod i najgora nacija na svijetu ovom, a sada razligu odavde..

za takve stvari kucaj video klipove tipa, "ratko mladic, alija izetbegovic, srebrenica, itd..." tamo ces 100% naci nekog za raspravu

[amir071]

Šta se pališ ko kutnjak, levatu jedan, i kako je to iznošenje jedne historijske činjenice - "mržnja"? Ja sam se samo ogradio od izjave "mi smo sjebali stvar" jer nismo ni mi Bosanci ni Hrvati ni Slovenci ni Šiptari ni Makedonci napadali, klali, palili itd. nego Srbi. Znam, istina boli, al to je vaš problem, pa smiri malo hormone...

[MessUrnebes]

evo smirio sam hormone!!  :-*

[tyresiasmaczek]

how can you ask if they're nazi?

thnks for upload this video!

[ZombieAPS]

No but they are acting as if they were to draw attention, at the time this was made, to the the government of Yugoslavia.

[qarusel]

Not quite. They are not acting as if they were nazis, but they are using it's model, with additions from elsewhere, to tell us that ANY political ideology is bad, they show us the order, pride and driving force of political idealism is appealing and as such an easy tool to manipulate masses.

[Eponae]

Well put!

[mieszkomieszko]

You are to explicit = NO FUN AT ALL!

[RubenvonZwack]

The Black Cross is a symbol of Joseph Beuys and russian construcitivist artist Malevich. They were very left winged artists.

And the robot-like behavior of the musicians is inspired by Kraftwerk.

Its funny how people assume anything disturbing must be "Nazi".

[88DamaskinoS88]

totaly true i study art and i know

[DEADRUSH666]

I have sean nazi hail to laibach and think they are Nazi foolish ignorance tho how they won't listen to lyrics and just see images and for fact NSK guid lines say to be a member it does not matter of race lol Laibach is nowhere near nazi or support it this song is powerful tho and i do enjoy much

[pateris]

If they were nazis, would they have covered the Israel hymn ? Those guys comes from a country which lived under a totalitarist regime. Most of us never did. So, making hasty judgement is stupid, even if, like Front 242, they played on the ambiguity. I still like both bands and I'm no fascist limpd**k !

[DEADRUSH666]

you fool listen to me more close iv been saying they arent i said that nazi that judge them by look think they are and are fools for not looking into what laibach really is.

[amir071]

@pateris

"Totalitarist" regime?! What the fuck do you know?

[pateris]

Can you enlighten me then ? If I made a mistake, based on Western propaganda (Oops the West is GOOD. Only the BAD, BAD, BAD ones uses propaganda) I'm ready to admit it !

[cm2dude]

@RubenvonZwack Kraftwerk was assumed to be Fascist because of Die Mensch Maschine.

[dgillary]

@RubenvonZwack Haha their wearing Nazi uniforms!! . You have to go past the surface to figure out how people dressed like Nazis and playing bits from famous Nazi's speeches(I believe it was Himmler in this) are not Nazis. Oh those crazy Germans..... The average person is of course going to see this as some type of neo-nazism and rightfully so.

When confronted with such accusations, Laibach are quoted as responding, "We are fascists as much as Hitler was a painter".

[RubenvonZwack]

@dgillary yeah but "the average person" can always use some good blows to the head to make them think, don't you agree ;)

But maybe I am just too optimistic, assuming it is possible to make people think ;)

[dgillary]

@RubenvonZwack yeah but those people could probably make you look real stupid in alot of things. Modesty 101 learned the hard way, trust me. I do however agree that the average person needs a blow to the head.

[AlUzzah]

@dgillary

It's Tito speaking...

[MinisterKGB]

@dgillary Himmler was the true man behind hitler (of course im no nazi) But the hypnotism in his shows and the symbolism was truly amazing it's no wonder they could pull of the crazy shit they did

[dobrotnik]

@RubenvonZwack They were not left-winged! They commited themselves, that they are as much nazis, as Hitler was painter. Search for Adolf Hitler's pictures in internet and you will find out that Hitler was genious painter!

[Doomsday1995]

@dobrotnik But hitler never made it to the top by being a painter, i'd believe that's laibach's point

[nayden8]

@RubenvonZwack I tend to strongly disagree about the cross. This type of cross is the so called Bogomil or Cathar cross. This is the true original "Christian" cross before Constantinople and the Vatican censored and rewrote the whole Christian philosophy to their political liking - for that purpose they started the crusades and Inquisition - the first true genocide in Europe, thousands of times worse than the WWII and depicted on the pictures of Hyeronimus Bosch.

[RubenvonZwack]

@nayden8 What do you mean? I did a picture search and it doesn't seemto have the slightest resemblance to the pictures of a Bogomil or Cathar cross, and to no other early christian crosses either. Wasnt their original symbol a fish anyway? I'm not so sure about the rest of your arguments either.

[nayden8]

@RubenvonZwack Bogomilism/Catharism's center in Europe were the Balkans, later France. bogomilism/Catharsim is in fact early pure Christianity which developed in the similar way as Buddhism or real Islam (not the western-sponsored fanatics in certain countries).Bogomil symbolism is similar to Buddhist - balance and equality is the basis. The Bogomil/Cathar cross is with 4 equal sides because they believe in the balance of the Universe.

[nayden8]

@RubenvonZwack The most important points in the Bogomil/Cathar teachings which brought the Renaissance are the following:

1. State and religious institutions are evil forces (this song is called State)

2. People are born to be equal and free

3. Free education for everyone - the Bogomil/Cathar church is the first in Europe to start free schools & "hospitals" - > Constantinoples (Roman Empire) and Vatican copied this from them after killing them -> the Red Cross kept the original Bogomil symbol

[nayden8]

@RubenvonZwack You do not know much about this because Constantinople (Orthodox) and Vatican (Catholic) burned all Bogomil/Cathar churches, cities and villages throughout Europe during the Crusades and Inquisition. Only in the last century some hidden copies of the books were found throughout Europe. Original untouched copies are kept nowadays in Turkey (mostly in Turkish language) and on Malta. A lot of research is being done recently and you can find books on the Amazon.

[mieszkomieszko]

@RubenvonZwack This is very nazi-like.

[3myjeff]

@RubenvonZwack plus people dont even know that nazi fascism is extremely right wing so when u tell people they were leftist they dont understand that its the opposite of fascism...in theory. haha!

[thesupersapians]

nice stuff aye wot?

[TechnoEstate]

Kinda reminds me of Robot Carnival... ^^''

[xerfes]

Haha, i looked up Robot Carnival. Funny.

[ec101dm]

you're right... THIS is the band we love, not the joke they became during later years ! !

[JVladan]

I agree

[SlurpBrigade]

Yea

[gombie]

No U.

[Metox3]

DAS ist Laibach..nicht der POP scheiss ala WAT...

[BoyArgentina]

Genau! Heil Laibach, für immer!

[JohnnyVodkaKlt]

H A I L !

[pongracg]

tschechennazis????

bist du krank ??

[xxXDamnationXxx]

The video AND music are powerful to me :) Hail Laibach!

[duckdario]

good video

[MaestralHuseinObama]

the state

[sfeberle]

Low budget and done very well, directed very well.

[nkolosov]

4:24 great

[Lunch1c4]

deeejmo ljubljana!

[electrokinesis]

Makes me think of early Art of Noise, but WAY darker.

[mumkunsuzluk]

a civilian tragedy !

the explanation is the whip and you bleed

Triglav...

[basmek]

good1 ;)

[came2die]

Noro, ni kej druzga za rečt :)

[steelvonbismarck]

excelente video, industrial de la oldschool...

[steelvonbismarck]

excelente video, industrial de la oldschool...

[zablujnc]

kua ste zdej eno pulitično temo odprl...

muska j zakon, tu j važn

[jordinyc]

1:44 LOLIRUN aka 2256.swf (for those of you on /f/ looking for music sauce)

[Nekrophyll]

Hay Anon :D

[jordinyc]

I'm not anon, but I do deliver XP.

[FuzzyCan]

I had no idea that any of my fellow channers liked Laibach.

[TheChristianAtheist]

epic newfag lol

[FuzzyCan]

Yeah, I guess I am.

[jordinyc]

Hai anon! Truth is anon don't like Laibach as much as they like running lolitas.

I wonder if anyone ever found out the sauce behind ef_loli_run.swf or if it's just 100% original content

[jordinyc]

Well for what it's worth, I uploaded a copy of EF_LOLI_RUN to YouTube. Please check my profile/channel/whatever page to see it. I submitted it as a response to this video.

[user1ersesses]

Laibach are not nacist...their Work lends much deeper.They dont sing just for west EU, they sing to the WORLD.Their art give a lot of books about his MISION.

Look new video, Mama Leone!

[jum205]

Years are passing and this music remains more and more powerful!

[obyektiv81]

Glupost. jedan od njih je izvršio samoubistvo na početku njihove karijere...