@GodofReapers Actually Byzantine Catholics do not believe literally everything that Roman Catholics do. We might accept what the Roman's believe, but we have our own theology, and with that theology the Immaculate Conception does not make sense the way it is described in the west. So I'd say we believe everything the Orthodox believe, except that we are in communion with Rome...often what Rome believe we believe, but we describe it in different ways.
The Melkite patriarch, Maximos IV and his successor, Maximos V, were close to the Holy Fathers John XXIII and Paul IV.The patriachs and a few key Melkite bishops like Father Joseph Raya were working with Rome to allow more autonomy for the Melkites(especially in the U.S.A.) and to build a bridge to our Orthodox brothers. Patriarch Gregory still is working to bring the Orthodox churches back into communion with Rome while trying to protect the Melkite church in the Middle East.
@skyethur The Byzantine Catholics believe literally everything that Roman Catholics do; the only differences are those of emphasis and liturgy. Our Orthodox brothers, even, are not too far from the Faith; it is amazing the number of beliefs we hold in common. But all Eastern Catholics are completely in line with the Church of Rome in matters of the Faith.
@Skyethur Byzantine Catholics believe in the immaculate conception. They simply use a different liturgy, one that is similar to the Eastern Orthodox Church's liturgy.
Indeed the miter itself wasn't fully "liturgical" either of course... it's removed for most of the Mass while the Holy Father or the bishops wear the zuccheto for all parts except the consecration.
However, the Tiara (although it had theological significance representing Christ threefold mission of priest, prophet, and king) was never used in any procession or at any other time in a Latin Rite celebration. The Tiara is used here probably because the Greek bishops have Crown like miters.
This Liturgy took place in St Peter's in 1958. Then-Pope John XXIII consecrated a Melkite bishop. Note His Holiness was wearing a very interesting combination of vestments: the papal tiara and the papal fanion, a Byzantine saccos, with the pallium. In contrast, in 1996, Pope John Paul II concelebrated in a Ukrainian Liturgy in St. Peter's and he wore only Latin vestments.
@ninjaonline That's definitely a Greek chant and I would not be surprised if the monks of Exarchic Greek Abbey of St. Mary of Grottaferrata sang this. It certainly sounds like them.
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@GodofReapers Actually Byzantine Catholics do not believe literally everything that Roman Catholics do. We might accept what the Roman's believe, but we have our own theology, and with that theology the Immaculate Conception does not make sense the way it is described in the west. So I'd say we believe everything the Orthodox believe, except that we are in communion with Rome...often what Rome believe we believe, but we describe it in different ways.
xmensch0711 4 months ago
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xmensch0711 4 months ago
The Melkite patriarch, Maximos IV and his successor, Maximos V, were close to the Holy Fathers John XXIII and Paul IV.The patriachs and a few key Melkite bishops like Father Joseph Raya were working with Rome to allow more autonomy for the Melkites(especially in the U.S.A.) and to build a bridge to our Orthodox brothers. Patriarch Gregory still is working to bring the Orthodox churches back into communion with Rome while trying to protect the Melkite church in the Middle East.
vivi14816 7 months ago
@skyethur The Byzantine Catholics believe literally everything that Roman Catholics do; the only differences are those of emphasis and liturgy. Our Orthodox brothers, even, are not too far from the Faith; it is amazing the number of beliefs we hold in common. But all Eastern Catholics are completely in line with the Church of Rome in matters of the Faith.
GodofReapers 7 months ago
@GodofReapers that would be a violation, for example for the provisions given by the bishops in the Union of Brest.
95andropov 4 months ago
why does bezanine catholics do not believe in immaculate conception but yet still communion with vatican.?
Skyethur 9 months ago
@Skyethur Byzantine Catholics believe in the immaculate conception. They simply use a different liturgy, one that is similar to the Eastern Orthodox Church's liturgy.
JustJim70118 8 months ago 4
@JustJim70118 ah i see.. thanks..
Skyethur 8 months ago
Indeed the miter itself wasn't fully "liturgical" either of course... it's removed for most of the Mass while the Holy Father or the bishops wear the zuccheto for all parts except the consecration.
However, the Tiara (although it had theological significance representing Christ threefold mission of priest, prophet, and king) was never used in any procession or at any other time in a Latin Rite celebration. The Tiara is used here probably because the Greek bishops have Crown like miters.
BillyT92679 10 months ago
One of the very few (perhaps only?) times the Triregnum was used for actual liturgy. The Tiara was NOT a liturgical piece like the miter.
BillyT92679 10 months ago
This Liturgy took place in St Peter's in 1958. Then-Pope John XXIII consecrated a Melkite bishop. Note His Holiness was wearing a very interesting combination of vestments: the papal tiara and the papal fanion, a Byzantine saccos, with the pallium. In contrast, in 1996, Pope John Paul II concelebrated in a Ukrainian Liturgy in St. Peter's and he wore only Latin vestments.
Garbanzo884 1 year ago
what is that chant called!?!? I want to know it sounds very Deep! Please let me know.
ninjaonline 1 year ago
@ninjaonline That's definitely a Greek chant and I would not be surprised if the monks of Exarchic Greek Abbey of St. Mary of Grottaferrata sang this. It certainly sounds like them.
Garbanzo884 1 year ago