Guild Wars Elementalist Vermin Farming (Hard Mode)

[letsplaymarcosays]

Does this still work?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

@letsplaymarcosays No. Shadow Form has completely changed, so you'll get very quickly killed with this build now.

[letsplaymarcosays]

@SalamandraTheNinja Awww :[ is there a different way to kill these with ele???

[SalamandraTheNinja]

@letsplaymarcosays I'll try to figure something out.

[TimelessFate]

i dont understand them nerfing everything, its hard enough keeping players on a game that has a lvl cap of 20. no professions to make money, so obviously killing monsters is the goal, yet they nerf every decent way of doing it, its the reason i rarely play this game anymore(only reason is till do s b/c its free and still fun lol)

[FuriousCracKKer]

hey what is farming in not a noob but I want to know cuz I am goingto play dis game soon is it just killing monsters???

[SalamandraTheNinja]

@FuriousCracKKer It's killing monsters to get gold, exp, faction, specific items, etc. There're a lot of variations of it, a lot of monsters for general items/gold, individual monsters for greens, solo and groups.

[TheTookie88]

awesome im making an ele right now so far its only lvl 8 in factions and its fire

[18Coldheart]

shadowform got nerfed, your imune to spells but you get damage,reduced damage but still dmg

[karma2k10]

too bad SF has been nerfed

[amfahmage]

TOO BAD its been nerfed now

[rutgerm1993]

nice build

[kneph33]

Whenever I do this in HM the vermin kite. How do you keep them from kiting?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Combination of knockdowns and killing them really quickly. Glyph of Elemental Power is necessary for this reason.

[FrozenHonors]

Invinci-ele. LOL

[gaytrampboy]

Nice vids, how come u lost hp after u use some skills?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Because that's what Shadow Form does after it runs out.

[wilkoveer]

where is this:O

[iSullie]

"outside senji's"

its out in Xanquang Skyway. It's also a 2 year old video.

[RhoxWarMonk]

@kornrockervl: Mostly celestial weapons.

What is the song?

[kornrockervl]

what type of good drops can u get?

[heeeejdu]

can you send me build?

[ultimateownagex]

what's you attributes?

[icovercrazyness]

ahmm.. were is the boss? and the vermin and troll farm isnt that good nowdays.. farm vaettir, raptor or so insted ^_^

[Magha112]

HOLY COW U ROCK!

[gomilev]

is it a worth buy?

[ninjasofgriffindor]

drop rates are VERY low

[QshesshoumaruQ]

tomes in HM

[FINanimal]

cools skills! fire elementalist rules!

[ninjasofgriffindor]

why do people farm mountain trolls and vermin when there's no good drops and can't get a lot of money?

[aadiljohnson]

When i try this build how come i don't do as much damage as you and i have 16 fire magic?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Because the third skill on the bar is Glyph of Elemental Power, hence I actually have 18 fire magic when using the spells.

[aadiljohnson]

i meant that i originally have 16 fire magic then i cast that glyph so i have 18. But the prob is once the vermin have low health, they start to scatter. Then i die. Is there anything special u have that i dont? i have 16 fire magic(18 with glyph), 10 shadow arts and a staff that has 19% enchantment mod.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Nothing, then. As long as you use Glyph of Elemental Power, and then Meteor Shower, Bed of Coals, Lava Font and Phoenix they should always die. The Flame Djinn's Haste was never necessary.

Of course, something could have changed since I last played. I haven't played any Guild Wars in ages, and the hp of the Vermin or running mechanics could have been altered.

[QshesshoumaruQ]

NPC's now run when they're taking large amounts of AoE damage.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

They have for a long time. They've always ran when on low health while in melee range with at least 3 others on the target in hard mode. They've also always ran from prolonged pulsing aoe damage. The important thing is that due to knockbacks and extremely high spike damage, they die before they can run away.

[geeman1237]

what skill is the one second to last

[chickenpielollipop99]

pheonix

[Light4494]

I sometimes had problems with Vermin running away then I'm screwed but with the recent update to Shadow Form, this build is awesome, cuz now I have enough time to cast at least a second Phoenix to finish them off.

[thegodofthegods2]

i invented my own build as ele/war. by using it i farm al mobs through facitons and nightfal. including shiro

[sallaway9]

tis a ood build i found out this ages ago it takes long to farm em all tbh its not very fun but anyway...its also not that good cash 1 day i got 6 celestials and tbh it was just merch junk :/

[ZimZombi]

i do this farm alot ty salamandra i <3 u i got like 8 celestial stuff

[Glenn458]

can this also been done with a/e ? then i have 16 shadow arts en thus longer in shadow form

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Having a longer Shadow Form isn't really helpful, as the challenge is to kill them before they run away, not to survive until they're dead. You need power in the initial bomb, otherwise they all just run away and stare at you while your shadow form runs out.

[Glenn458]

but with the glyp i got 14 fire and i use item that my attributes are +1 so i got 15 and i see they are alrdy killed when u use phoenix and u also have flame dijun's haste to deal a lot of dmg

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Yeah, but I have to use that Glyph too, so you're comparing 14 fire damage with 18 fire damage. Also, the item thing cannot be relied upon.

[Glenn458]

ok, i can still try it but what u see about they're running away is true i do lot's of places and i try still lot's of places do go with my nuker sin but more and more i use silver armour and aftershock, etc

ty for the help

[soccergod25]

It's sliver armor not silver armor ;P

[BiafraBeliever]

can someone post the template code?

[ctkiller123456]

hey what r the attribute points plzz reply!!!!

[SomeSayImFamous]

Wow this is amzing lol but whats a better hard mode soloing build i can't find one for my ele msg me if you all have any ideas.

[Light4494]

Did you hear? Shadow Form now lasts 60 seconds :D

[Light4494]

Lol BTW that was April fools :P I only wish it was real

[YobleylChris]

The new asuran skill mind bender is leet for this, makes meteor shower 2.5s cast time and move faster

[neb2k7]

hey m8 can u ping ur template code or send build on GW "scythe master neb"

[Light4494]

What's the Glyph? And is there a possible replacement to Flame Djinn's Haste to make a Prophecies/Factions only variant?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

It's Glyph of Elemental Power.

The damage from Flame Djinn's Haste isn't really needed, and the speed boost isn't needed for nearly as long as it lasts for, so you could probably just use Armor of Mist without even putting more than a few points in water.

[vengefulacolyte1]

what's the song name? it's really good.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Static-X - Control It

[ovanes11]

where do u get meteor shower? skill?

[Light4494]

Another few questions. Did you base this build off of the Mist Form Bomber? And what do Vermins tend to drop?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

*shrug* Based this off the Shadow Form bomber which is quite well known and widespread, and modified it for significantly more power in a small time, energy management and a running speed boost.

[h3t3]

The main reason for farming vermins and not anyting else is for Celestial Weapons. Although rare, this is probably the most convenient spot to farm for them in Hard Mode. =)

[Light4494]

Does this build cause any trouble with Shreader?

[this1neguy]

when I use it is does, because I don't have any Shadow Arts runes. Thus Shadow Form ends early and I get wasted. I think Salamandra has runes that extend it so Shreader isn't a problem.

Different question: Is there any particular bonus to doing this in HM? I get 1.5plat per run in NM...does it get much better?

[Light4494]

In Hard Mode, there is a chance of getting Tomes, which are useful for getting unlocked skills, and with the higher lvls of the monsters, better drops come down, and more money values. For Example: NM Hydras near Augury Rock in Tyria drop about 75-100g, in HM, they drop 125-150. Plus they tend to drop golds, purples, and blues more.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

You can't have Shadow Form runes when you're an E/A. Runes are exclusive to the primary profession. I do have a 20% enchantment mod, though.

In Hard Mode you get more gold, more golden weapon drops, and the weapons that do drop are of higher quality (Due to the lowish level of the regular Vermin, they often drop non-max golds... which isn't very good).

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Shreader's a problem regardless. He's simply got too much health, the fire bomb doesn't kill him, Shadow Form runs out and you die.

I avoid him and his group. It's easy enough to do.

[this1neguy]

12+ on fire and on Shadow Arts for this build?

Does the weapon and your armor matter, besides wanting superior runes and +1 FM weapon?

(I use Exuro's Will, do you know if that works for this?)

[SalamandraTheNinja]

All you need is a +20% enchantment mod.

[Aremine]

tomorrow ill try this on my own, but i didnt finish gw fac yet:/ so i cant do it in hm

[NKOITH]

When i try to do this, they scatter, whats the problem?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Make sure you're using Glyph of Elemental Power, not Glyph of Sacrifice or Lesser Energy. It is still possible for them to scatter, but they do it very infrequently.

[NoNamedGuyS]

could u also do echo mist form this?

[NKOITH]

yup

[garymofo2]

dam you killed like 6 vermins and all you got was 1 drop... FUCK LOOT SCALING!

[NittleGrasper13]

THX for build first drop = req 12 aureate dags 15^50 lol

[satisfactionalchik]

Thank you very much.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

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Use Superior Fire, obviously.

And you cast it in the order I show. Cast Fire Attunement and Flame Djinn's Haste. Then run around, aggro everyone you want and get them to the place to fight them. Cast Shadow Form and Glyph of Elemental Power, Meteor Shower, Bed of Coals, Lava Font, Phoenix, and Flame Djinn's Haste if you feel wasteful.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

Glyph of Elemental Power. It simply often doesn't work without the extra damage.

[SalamandraTheNinja]

First bomb: Group of vermin to the side and the ones patrolling near the stairs.

Second bomb: Two groups of vermin before the bridge on ramps.

Third bomb: Attempt to aggro two groups after the bridge patrolling round the middle. Avoid the boss group.

Fourth bomb: Another two. Avoid the boss again. After this, run past.

Fifth: First two groups after the second bridge.

Sixth: Last group.

[satisfactionalchik]

How many groups are there u have to kill?

[SalamandraTheNinja]

It's when you kill, usually a large number of, monsters for loot, experience, faction... in an efficient way.

[funker14]

could u please tell me what "farming" means? thank you :)

[TheFlyingChristian]

Awesome.

[Tiny164]

I tried that and I cant seem to find the build.