One thing I thought - btw I noticed you were located in the Bahamas which kicks ass, as I'm up in Canada which doesn't kick as much butt as I'd like it to, sorry off topic, but then again we are just a couple of guys shooting the breeze - if perhaps - and I speak in hypothetical terms: maybe before GW fights a war on terror he should go fight in Vietnam, if only Cindy Sheehan had GH connections, maybe her son would be president... but of course 'if wishes were horses than beggars would ride'
Soooo, let me get this straight. A woman, a mother, whose son was killed in a war, a son who volunteered to serve in an army, spoke about the impact of her son's death, while serving in a volunteer army, and then other people, like Staceyann Chin and Marisa Tormei, "PERFORM" this speech for other people to watch and applaud? That's not about the death of a son. That's not about an injustice. That's not about George W. Bush. That's about grandstanding and selfishness. THAT'S messed up.
You need to have your head examined son or better yet find some one charitable to defecate in your head, a bit of brain matter will you see the light.
Wow, that's intelligent. Thanks for sharing your deepest thoughts. But, I guess that's to be expected for someone who supports this kind of self-centered, misguided crap.
Also this is not helpful, we need keenimedia around I think, he has not been out of line - and even though he needs no defense from I - I choose to make sure that whatever sides we think are forming in this youtube discussion remain vague and undefined.
whatever kind the individual in question feels led to, i suppose.
writing, organising, self-education, educating others, volunteering, engaging in politics...all helpful things. not everybody's good at all of them, but people tend to be good at something.
It's great to see another reading of this. I've only seen Marisa Tomei's (also good) performance before, but this one has different emphases and rhythms that express different feelings and make you wonder how different personalities would express the same thoughts. A great job.
god bless cindy sheehan... god bless howard zinn, who is behind this project... performance is a bit over the top in my opinion, but the message is dead on.
and Free Somalia, Palisien,Irak, Pakistian,Sudan, Negiera, S_africak, N_Africak, W_Aafrika, E_africak, Boblylon, My relegion.Dead 2 America and Juder go fron palsien
The most patriotic thing anyone can do is speak out for what they believe in. If we keep quiet than those who died defending our Constitution died in vain.
You make a lovely point, Cindy's son - serving in a volunteer army - paid a heavy price in an unjust war built upon lies and double talk. For the sake of the many I hope more people read and view this speech by the few and growing number who both internalize the feeling and externalize the pain. That price was his life, George W Bush never had to pay that price. His life is worthless as his presidential status is to the Republican party.
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So, you're saying that in order for George Bush to be worthy -- or any president, for that matter -- he would have to die...?
War is hell. War is horrible. War is never a good choice. But war is a reality in this world. And--despite the common foolish and ignorant thing that people often say--war is sometimes the only way to peace. Anyone that denies that lives in fantasy.
But, for now, I guess we can blame George Bush for all of the world's ills. I wonder who we'll blame when he's gone?
I could write a novel on all the 'other' people responsible but eventually I'd lose all desire to live. You see massive conspiratorial murmurings while they and those who speak them are dismissive categorically as 'lunacy' are a part of our society for a reason. They happen. For George W Bush to be worth... well he'd have to actually be intelligent enough to make rational decisions based on the evidence available. I don't pretend to be superman, but he does.
@Amanica In retrospect the invasion of Iraq, (which I was not 'for') caused several 'democratic revolutions in eastern europe, 'orange revolution, green revolution, rose revolution,' etc, as well as the current revolutions for democracy in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Bharain etc.etc which may very well open the channels for free speech in many of these countries. As for us, it was given in our constitution after a long bloody war for that right to be given.
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cindy sheehan did not raise her son. his father and stepmother did. she was not a real mother.
ArmenOfTheNorth 8 months ago
so. powerful. amazing delivery. thank you.
arkenssenn 1 year ago
Thank you for your sentiment-it was heartfelt. I sincerely hearken your offering of Cindy Sheehan's semantics.
MrBlubyrd 1 year ago
Thank you for your sentiment-it was heartfelt. I sincerely hearken your offering.
MrBlubyrd 1 year ago
Thank you for your sentiment-it was heartfelt I hearken your offering.
MrBlubyrd 1 year ago
Don't shoot the messenger, it's Cindy Shehans words...
HunterORL23 3 years ago 8
One thing I thought - btw I noticed you were located in the Bahamas which kicks ass, as I'm up in Canada which doesn't kick as much butt as I'd like it to, sorry off topic, but then again we are just a couple of guys shooting the breeze - if perhaps - and I speak in hypothetical terms: maybe before GW fights a war on terror he should go fight in Vietnam, if only Cindy Sheehan had GH connections, maybe her son would be president... but of course 'if wishes were horses than beggars would ride'
Msgrv32 3 years ago
Soooo, let me get this straight. A woman, a mother, whose son was killed in a war, a son who volunteered to serve in an army, spoke about the impact of her son's death, while serving in a volunteer army, and then other people, like Staceyann Chin and Marisa Tormei, "PERFORM" this speech for other people to watch and applaud? That's not about the death of a son. That's not about an injustice. That's not about George W. Bush. That's about grandstanding and selfishness. THAT'S messed up.
keenimedia 3 years ago
@keenimedia:
You need to have your head examined son or better yet find some one charitable to defecate in your head, a bit of brain matter will you see the light.
Aliof 3 years ago
Wow, that's intelligent. Thanks for sharing your deepest thoughts. But, I guess that's to be expected for someone who supports this kind of self-centered, misguided crap.
keenimedia 3 years ago
Also this is not helpful, we need keenimedia around I think, he has not been out of line - and even though he needs no defense from I - I choose to make sure that whatever sides we think are forming in this youtube discussion remain vague and undefined.
Msgrv32 3 years ago
actually, it's art, and it helps fuel the kind of action that people like cindy sheehan are calling for.
emmetgirl 3 years ago 6
What kind of action is that?
keenimedia 3 years ago
whatever kind the individual in question feels led to, i suppose.
writing, organising, self-education, educating others, volunteering, engaging in politics...all helpful things. not everybody's good at all of them, but people tend to be good at something.
emmetgirl 3 years ago 2
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fucking faggots. staceann must die.
Siduu101 3 years ago
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This is not appreciated. This is horrible.
Msgrv32 3 years ago
It's great to see another reading of this. I've only seen Marisa Tomei's (also good) performance before, but this one has different emphases and rhythms that express different feelings and make you wonder how different personalities would express the same thoughts. A great job.
colibri1 4 years ago
god bless cindy sheehan... god bless howard zinn, who is behind this project... performance is a bit over the top in my opinion, but the message is dead on.
mcslain 4 years ago
and Free Somalia, Palisien,Irak, Pakistian,Sudan, Negiera, S_africak, N_Africak, W_Aafrika, E_africak, Boblylon, My relegion.Dead 2 America and Juder go fron palsien
chillipapper 4 years ago
and Dead 2 juder
chillipapper 4 years ago
Our freedom of speech came from the Constitution
The most patriotic thing anyone can do is speak out for what they believe in. If we keep quiet than those who died defending our Constitution died in vain.
If we keep quiet "The stones will cry out."
Larryk12308 4 years ago 2
You make a lovely point, Cindy's son - serving in a volunteer army - paid a heavy price in an unjust war built upon lies and double talk. For the sake of the many I hope more people read and view this speech by the few and growing number who both internalize the feeling and externalize the pain. That price was his life, George W Bush never had to pay that price. His life is worthless as his presidential status is to the Republican party.
Msgrv32 3 years ago 4
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So, you're saying that in order for George Bush to be worthy -- or any president, for that matter -- he would have to die...?
War is hell. War is horrible. War is never a good choice. But war is a reality in this world. And--despite the common foolish and ignorant thing that people often say--war is sometimes the only way to peace. Anyone that denies that lives in fantasy.
But, for now, I guess we can blame George Bush for all of the world's ills. I wonder who we'll blame when he's gone?
keenimedia 3 years ago
I could write a novel on all the 'other' people responsible but eventually I'd lose all desire to live. You see massive conspiratorial murmurings while they and those who speak them are dismissive categorically as 'lunacy' are a part of our society for a reason. They happen. For George W Bush to be worth... well he'd have to actually be intelligent enough to make rational decisions based on the evidence available. I don't pretend to be superman, but he does.
War is hell, war is horrible- yup
Msgrv32 3 years ago
Dead 2 Amerika
chillipapper 4 years ago
"YOU TELL ME" where your right to free speech came from.
gerry301 4 years ago
@gerry301
Uhh ... from the war in Iraq?
Amanica 9 months ago
@Amanica In retrospect the invasion of Iraq, (which I was not 'for') caused several 'democratic revolutions in eastern europe, 'orange revolution, green revolution, rose revolution,' etc, as well as the current revolutions for democracy in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Bharain etc.etc which may very well open the channels for free speech in many of these countries. As for us, it was given in our constitution after a long bloody war for that right to be given.
gerry301 9 months ago