Future Shock (1972) 4/5

[plastack]

"the consequences of what we do today...determines what tomorrow will bring"

[BeakyRed]

9:40 oh, so THATS why technology is being suppressed, its to reduce future shock...

i thought it was just because corporations wanted money or some shit but i respect them now

[exeuroweenie]

I don't think technology's the threat.It's how people misuse it,as they inevitably do-from Hiroshima/Nagasaki on down to texting while driving.

[journeyquest1]

I hope there will be lots of young Elizabeth Taylor's to go around.

[kingalow1]

@8:45 explains our massive failure circa 2011

[cybersalad]

Despite all the doomsaying, this documentary was pretty optimistic about technology. Especially in the realms of AI and genetics--which we soon found were far more complicated puzzles to solve than we first thought.

[HalcyonicRepose]

Hmm, the technology could destroy us...

Read Disconnect by Devra Davis, maybe cellular technology isn't as safe as they say it is!

[james1200]

Wells can make anything sound ominous with that voice of his...

[MrJacMac1986]

@james1200 heard that he was going to do the voice of Darth Vader b4 James Earl Jones got it

[avelione]

From 1:50 I had the most amusing time watching this film.... :d LOL LOL LOL!

[jaytv777]

the fear of the future is apparently represented by the sound of the oboe...lets burn those wind instruments quick and save mankind

[avelione]

@jaytv777 I 100% agree !!!!

[PAM2167]

As Bart Simpson would say "Wow! Man"

[FuUberFu]

Orson Wells ate the future.

[wolfchimneyrock]

does this contradict or coincide with predictions in the film idiocracy?

[terramortim]

@wolfchimneyrock Nope. If you want the whole picture, Idiocracy is what we get, and Future Shock is what the ruling class get. Notice how in Idiocracy there were systems in place that even the President hadn't figured out? How did they get those machines that they used for their "ID Tattoos" etc?  ;)

Mike Judge is a genius.

[mccarrpo]

Future Shock or Shock from the Past?

[mccarrpo]

If I lived back in 1972, I would have been a cop. So I could beat the fuck out of communist hippie losers with a bat.

[james1200]

@mccarrpo If you lived in 1972, you'd be too busy trying to avoid the draft to beat anyone up, you fucking right-wing pussy!

[terramortim]

@james1200 Long ago, it would have been "right wing" to oppose the draft. . . that's when "right wing" was actually called liberal (maximum freedom, minimum government, human rights, the individual will), and "left wing" was some other thing called socialism (maximum government control, virtually no freedom, impossible to define "workers rights", eugenics, and even mass murder).

Today both wings are closer to the left wing of the time. Not much of the old "liberalism".

[james1200]

@terramortim You have no idea what you're talking about. Liberal in the 60's is Liberal now. You're thinking about the 18th century where what's now called Classic Liberalism is today's equal to Conservatism. Stop drinking the Glenn Beck kool-aid and read and learn for yourself.

[terramortim]

@james1200 I'm not a fan of Glen Beck. He cries too much, and rubs me the wrong way.

I am perfectly aware of what I was talking about. The modern liberal position isn't totally what the 1960s liberal position was, but I was talking about the 18th and 19th century versions of liberalism. WIth that said, the 1960s liberal position was far more libertarian and anti-statist than the current one is. I would put the modern liberal position closer to the 1930s collectivist models of Stalin or Hitler.

[cephal0p0d]

@terramortim

Of course you would. Because that's the narrative you're fed, and which you accept without question. 

[terramortim]

@james1200 For a perfect example, I'd like you to watch the entirety of Martin Luther King's "I have a dream speech". What is he talking about? He's talking about the constitution, natural rights, etc. . . Although I was mostly talking about 18th and 19th century liberalism (i.e. Classical liberalism), 1960s liberalism was not exactly the modern version either.

I've read enough history books to view Glen Beck as the character actor that he is, even if I agree with him every so often (rarely)

[terramortim]

@james1200 Regarding socialism, before it was called socialism, it had other names. It's not a new system, and Marx didn't come up with it. For example, the American colonies in the early 17th century were operated under a system virtually identical to communism. . . they just called it Feudalism. Same system, different name.

[shockadelicaustralia]

Too much change too soon can be detrimental.

Try getting that message through the arrogant skulls of 'progressives', Orson.

[j3wrnmiguitarist]

the floatings was sick! I loved it!!!!!! The world was destroyed yet by technology!!!

Technology will be humanities salvation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[666ouroboro]

This shit sucks to learn, because everybody else is just blissfully unaware...

Knowledge is a bitch.

[phlashba]

Did Orson Welles just say "NEW-Clee-ur"?

[rrrjjjmmm100]

that blond chick at the end is technologically doable all night long!!!!

[MacoutesGabber]

This book and film are both idiotic. Technology is GOOD for mankind. Today, if I break my leg, I can just dial 911, and I'll get help. Back in the middle ages, I'd be screwed for life. Fuck that. Gimme that gold old "FUTURE SHOCK" anytime.

[pauswa1966]

HAHAHA, "NUCULAR". How retarded. Why do people say "nucular"? How moronic.

[pauswa1966]

The whole concept of cryogenics -- GROSS.

[pauswa1966]

The secret of life itself -- in the MATRIX. :) Hilarious film. Thanks for posting it.

The floating Orson Wells head was cool. Drop some acid and look at that groovy scene! Far out!

[00MORDRED]

2:08 energy drinks....fast food...pills...wow so many relative examples could be made...

[00MORDRED]

holy shit I'd like to wake my wife up like that!!!

BZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzTT­TTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SmegmoliO]

... tI MISS THE ROTARY PHONES...

[Composer1777]

LMFAO @ Gene Therapy being scary. I hate old ass shit,

[roskildahphreak]

The idea of nano-technology sure saved cryonics ass, man

[ybunnygurl]

the Synthesizer in this is awesome, so dated and modernistic!

[JoshSitar]

Oh my god. So it was Orson Welles, and NOT George W. Bush that started the whole "nucular" pronunciation of nuclear!!!

Listen carefully at 6:32 and at 6:37. He totally says "nucular".

[KunsanMom]

Technology is; and has always been the back door way that commen people can throw off the bonds of oppression. The totalitarian always wants to limit peoples access to and use of technology. They always attack and poullute knowledge. Learn, study, invent, communicate.

[Rhetorikol]

This portion is entirely hinted in the Matrix.

[Teflon65]

I just want a big fondue' party, in an environment full of robots, who happen to be in group marriages, and can validate my parking.

[QuantumProphet]

@Teflon65 Do you want the robots performing on each other? or you want the PG-13 version or Disney version?

[Teflon65]

@QuantumProphet As long as they validate my parking ticket, I guess it doesn't matter.

[marxotube]

Wasn't Toffler optimistic about the future? I thought he wrote that third wave post-industrialism would usher in a bright techno-utopia.

[QuantumProphet]

@marxotube he envisoned a brigh techo-utopia and all we got is Raeggeton LOL

[CTHULHUSURVIVOR]

Alvin Toffler was really good at informing those Asians that industrialism wasn't the way to go! HAH!

Can anyone even calculate the misuse of 'old'' firearm technology? How many dead because of the simple gun? Billions? Before that, Toledo steel blades? Before that, the sharpened stick or the well-aimed rock?

Predictions always fail. Sentimental memories are always wrong. Escape from change is a limiting of the self.

Control technology, the way Sony tried to stop VHS porn!

[dfirest1]

"The world powers would soon develop genetic engineering capable of increasing the output of geniuses."

You have my cell number, please call me when that happens.

[NotCrazyLikeU]

Damn, my battery pack died today....I am so bummed

[NotCrazyLikeU]

Love getting a lecture about family and permanency from an obese, alcoholic philanderer....you go, Orson!

[immortalPhoenix1986]

love the electroshock mood device haha

[meh97]

orson welles is in a film' talking about future shock to marriage' funny' considering he was married 3 times back in the good ol days of the 30's and 40's-50's and was also known as a poon hound who was a big fan of the one night stand' but his era was more simple and better...right

[dandelionpaws]

This documentary was made at the end of the last progressive period in American society. This whiplash could have been the catalyst for the great thirty years of darkness to follow. Look at what little has been accomplished beyond the predictions of this documentary! I guess "Future Shock" accomplished it's objective, "shut it down!"

[Dangoxs]

shut what down?

[themarkhopkinsshow]

The Concord came and went.we've created landfills far beyond their expectations. Had they only known bottled water bottles would fill landfills!

[themarkhopkinsshow]

I agree that the sound track is very groovy, and it does help give it a vintage feel. I find it very interesting that

Toffler was dead on accurate about the dangers of industrialization being placed on a pedestal, esp. since China and India have done just that. The 1970's pollution we the US created is being duplicated and exceeded by both China and India today. In some regards we haven't gotten as advanced as they predicted.

[themarkhopkinsshow]

That's hysterical, that they thought we'd be in a genetic race toward increased genius, when in fact our society is so dumbed down now, that Mike Judges "Idiocracy"

is well ahead of it's prediction.

[psychicwhoosh]

In the 70s they had some odd notions about how to musically score things. I mean some of the music directly violates the tone of the documentary. It is kind of baffling as to what that was about. There must have been some prevalent aesthetic or school of thought that found the high school jazz band sound very appealing.

[selatik1]

lol

[tigerlilyxoxo]

@psychicwhoosh I believe they were probably all just stoned out of their minds, man.

[krazygrrrl]

Perhaps Mr. Wells was the greatest doomsayer of all time!!!

[selatik1]

and Wells was also the biggest sell-out of the 20th century....

[avelione]

@krazygrrrl Well, as who he used to be I'd rather see him lively and optimistic technology supporter not a fatter older man becoming pesimistic as he gets older :/

[terramortim]

@krazygrrrl Perhaps, unfortunately, he seems to have been right. We don't even realize it.

[RealDeepInSight]

sounds like transhumanism....

[davidgrahamscott]

I didn't like what that guy did to the rat at 1.18....not nice

[justme632]

electrical shock to get you going in the morning? Red Bull  takes care of that

[sapphirerose666]

Sounds like my dad complaining about the internet and why it's evil , lol

[aduecey]

To hold back innovation so that you may take your time to become comfortable with it seems silly to me. Hold on to that stance and see if you don't get passed by.

[WarriorOfModernDeath]

One of the most important things a man has, is a connection with nature, todays fast pace makes us, loose that connection. World needs fast, hard working labor force, not free spiritualy developed people. Technology and its products are here to pull us in its vicous circle. Ask yourself what is the amount of free will people poses today? Slaves shall serve. Serve or die.

[yaosio]

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

[WarriorOfModernDeath]

Yes my friend, it was that way since the dawn of mankind.

[BADAWYY]

Technology is good. Those who hate technology are stupid and that's it. Return to Bonanza and let us live with our fancy modern toasters and electric shocks, whatever. :)

[11Jamie11]

I see a parallel of sorts between your attitude and that of crusaders or other fanatics.  The point raised in this segment of the film is that we've essentially idolized science, and that science as an institution is now threatening our other institutions. IMO it's a valid point, not that it's inevitable that science will destroy other institutions, but that it's possible, and that we ought to be skeptical about the wisdom of letting that happen.

[BADAWYY]

I am a man that seeks imortality for me and for everybody. I had a terrible experience with a relative of mine and since then I simply hate that there isn't anything to do against old age and cancer. For this, I am a fanatic and shall forever be, of science at any cost. But I know that science is now used for encarcerating us. I'm sorry if I offended you , sincerely.

[11Jamie11]

No, you didn't at all. I'm only pointing out something I think is important to notice.

What price immortality? It is attractive per se, but could it cost us more than it would be worth? What if we became immortal but were no longer truly human?

I'm not trying to dissuade you, only to encourage you to proceed wisely.

[BADAWYY]

You know...maybe our human form has reached it's limit. I don't know. What would we lose ? What would we gain ? Perhaps the total transformation is inevitable. These are truly hard problems, but we must sacrifice I think for discovering it. I would try, maybe others would try and if anything goes wrong you could destroy us. I think at least a part of our race should try. For evolution...I don't know, we must escape this game of hasard that nature plays with us.

[BADAWYY]

Maybe the truth is a third unforseen solution. If I become a simple machine then what's the use ? :) No love, no hate, no higher feelings , but pure information.

[ottoskidoo]

Then you're just a computer. Not human.

[BADAWYY]

I get your point. However, since when being human became a privileged status ? Now I'm just a bit malitious. I sound like a tin robot from the 60's. By the way, I love old sci-fis. :)

[davidgrahamscott]

I love tin robots from the 60's

[BADAWYY]

I've watched the entire documentary with my brother. We've been hypnotized by the strange techno-vintage vision. :) We also watch Buck Rogers and and The outer Limits from the 60's. :))By the way, I subscribed to your channel.

[davidgrahamscott]

These old documentaries are great! Some of the info is highly speculative and entirely wrong but there's quite a bit that's turned out true as well. You should check out the mondo films from the 60's and 70's too but they can be a bit stomach churning.

[Tikkiroll]

Some of the info is highly speculative and entirely wrong????? My friend i think u dont understand nothing at all!!!!

[BADAWYY]

When you think that in the 70's THEY thought they have problems, it becomes hilarious. :)

[smallritual]

"is technology always desirable?" yes, if it's concorde!

[ilovemayo123]

keeping us scared... yep, not much has changed since '72.

[nutherefurlong]

This American Life had an interesting (and depressing) piece on the early cryonics movement :)

[buttdagger]

Prozac and Google. It's happen!

[GlobalFilmmaker]

Oh my gosh, eugenetics propoganda, the USA was doing that back in the 30's as was Hitler! Hahahaha electrical implants for personal shock treatment! And since when have Americans ever been free from the pharmaceutical drug pushers, just turn on a tv and see the ads for drugs just like the old snake oil salesmen! Future shock, spaceports and megacities, hmm terrible how the world of today has them, we're all so worse off, actually the city does look like Las Vegas or Los Angeles...

[kafkask]

eek... the 70s. What a horrible time to be alive.

[DJLorenzen]

Hahaha born 1985 :-)

[coldfustion]

1990 bitches! XD but i would've liked to see the poppin 80's :(

[003lusive]

orson wells goes to take a dump in the woods. i love that cigar

[JeffreyP506]

Orson Welles - fat man walking

[DJLorenzen]

4:07 cloning!? haha

[kpb96m]

1:15 Nice little example of unnecessary animal cruelty for the betterment of science. (Note the face of the rat as its little body tries to deal with the overwhelming wave of pain the good professor gives it for no apparent reason).

[nicogum]

I think that was an orgasm.

[kpb96m]

The advance of science is and aught to be unstoppable. Unless of course a Republican president is elected into power who bends to the religious right and hinders all advancement of science. (U.S)

[kpb96m]

0:50 I wrote a thesis on A. H. Nayfeh back when I was earning my masters. You can find his musings in the "RUSSIAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL CHEMISTRY". (Translated from Prikladnaya Mekhanika, Vol. 24) 1969.

Multiple computational aspects of the numerical implementation are discussed.

Some good examples of propagation of an incident plane wave over a circular-type shoal are presented (based on Born approximation)

[pinpalsburnsy]

Transparent Floating Orson heads + Synthesizer = Great Cinema

[utubeworms]

Actually, the problems we face today are going to look like absolute child's play when we are faced with the inevitable problem of over population. That's going to be truly depressing.

[ngfrost]

not necessarly, people dont wanna have kids theese days, the population will grow older , die and it qill stable out by 2020

[kcirtap01]

Realize that you might be talking about a small percentage of people that might not want to have kids based on a geographical location. I assume your in the US, but consider population shifts around the globe as well. (IE China with 1/3 of the worlds population.) Its hard to tell what will happen.

[ngfrost]

i live in canada; in china 1/3 of the population is female; most of the men are growing old and alone; they will die; im telling you it will even out

[crock703]

Don't count on it. That figure is also way off - a large percentage of women are undocumented. Plus, women will migrate from North Korea, Mongolia and Central Asia - b/c that's where the money/security is gathering in Asia.

Unmarried male populations don't sit and wither, they fight for resources. A lot of women are going to go into prostitution. The rest of the world should keep its fingers crossed that China doesn't invite a war w/ the West or India to diffuse its excess testosterone.

[trainluvr]

groovey music after 7:00. Alvin is right, Industrialism is not the only way. We've tasted the apple and now we're hooked. We sold this way of life to a world with exponential population growth. Now what? See the movie Koyannisqatsi and you may understand.

[lukensal]

Thanks for posting.  This is still relevant.

[nextren]

Two things are being conflated here: technological change, and social breakdown. Computers cause hippies, sexual perversion, and riots - that's the message. Your stress isn't caused by bad people screwing with the culture. It's caused by transistors. Don't like long-haired freaks, uneasy because of inflation? Solution: take a sledgehammer to your artificial heart or electric typewriter.

Pure tripe.

[AEigner]

neo-luddite thinking, using technology as a scapegoat. Good post!

[nextren]

2:15 - 2:23: Blow-up dolls for wives. We're doomed.

BEST PART OF MOVIE: 3:37 - 4:10.

[webdemarcio]

Maybe yes, SpikeWolfwood. Remember Chernobyl episode, 20 years back.

[SpikeWolfwood]

Say no to certain technologies? Morons. They were so overwhelmed by their fears of all the new things happening around them that they failed to realize that hindering technology is hindering knowledge. Just about all technology is a double edged sword in that almost every advancement made by mankind has both good and bad applications. Should we abandon everything that can potentially be used for evil even if it would mean wonderful benefits for society?

[lukensal]

Toffler doesn't advocate rejecting all technology. We need to be informed and active to reject technology that threatens our health, safety, and long-term survival.

[upcycle]

In his latest book "revolutionary wealth" he goes into more detail about the benefits of what he calls the "information age" or information economy. He also addresses the subject in that he wants people to be informed.